Yankees Hope They Acquired “Road” Ichiro
The Yankees have acquired Ichiro Suzuki from the Mariners in exchange for pitching prospects D.J. Mitchell and Danny Farquhar. The Mariners are also paying approximately $4.5 million of the $6.7 million remaining on Ichiro’s contract, leaving the Yankees responsible for a fairly modest $2.25 million.
According to Mariners CEO Howard Lincoln, Ichiro had approached the club requesting a trade, reasoning that the Mariners are building for the future and it was best for the team if younger players were given more playing time.
Ichiro has also become a shell of his former self, posting a .289 wOBA last season and a .281 wOBA this year, both of which rank near the league’s bottom. Since the start of last season, only Cliff Pennington, Casey McGehee and Gordon Beckham have produced lower wOBAs. Trading him must have been very difficult, but it was much easier to justify, and downright responsible, from a production standpoint.
While Safeco Field clearly has a hand in his decline, he is simply nowhere near the same player fans are accustomed to seeing. He isn’t an everyday player anymore, but it would have been tough for the Mariners to play him sporadically given his importance to the team and the community. The Yankees don’t need him to be anything more than a part-time platoon player to make this deal work out, and for Ichiro, the realization that his days as a full-time starter are done is likely easier to stomach on a playoff contender.
While it’s somewhat shocking that the Mariners dealt their franchise player — especially since most signs pointed towards his retention next season — what he could potentially provide his new club is rather intriguing. In the appropriate role and under the right circumstances, he could really benefit the Yankees down the stretch.
Simply by not playing the majority of his games at Safeco Field, which has absolutely crushed BABIP and offense in general this season, Ichiro figures to improve his seasonal line. If his numbers at the plate with the Yankees resemble his current road numbers, and his terrific fielding persists, the Yankees won’t think twice about the money they’ll spend or the prospects they dealt. If they just acquired “Road” Ichiro, this is a darned good deal that bolsters depth in an important area.
Context is key in any analysis, and with Ichiro what’s important is how the Yankees will use him. If he splits time in a platoon — he has a .309 wOBA vs. righties compared to a .222 wOBA against lefties, he will provide more overall utility. If, on top of that, he produces close to his current road marks — a .311 road wOBA compared to a .243 home wOBA — the Yankees could end up with the version of Ichiro that hits close to the league average and fields very well. We obviously cannot take his road numbers and assume that he will match them now that he has left the unfriendly confines, but it’s more likely he produces near that level than it is that he completely falters.
But how Ichiro factors into the Yankees outfield is still a question mark. Curtis Granderson starts in center field. Nick Swisher mans right field. Raul Ibanez and Andruw Jones platoon in left field. Ichiro represents added depth given the injuries to Brett Gardner, but it’s unclear if he’s a better option than anyone, anywhere. Both Swisher and Jones sport .346 wOBAs, and Ibanez has an average-ish .318 wOBA.
The left field platoon of Jones and Ibanez has been productive to the tune of 2.1 WAR this season, and though Ichiro is a defensive upgrade over both, his role is likely limited to the third wheel of that platoon.
The Yankees could also use Ichiro in a catch-all outfield role, spelling any of their starters if injuries arise, or filling in when rest is required. That’s the key with a depth move like this — Ichiro isn’t counted on to be the tremendous hitter of yesteryear. The Yankees realistically don’t need him to do all that much, which means they are far more likely to use him in the proper roles. As a result, they stand to extract far more value out of him.
It feels very strange that Ichiro is no longer a member of the Seattle Mariners, but it’s ultimately for the best. The Mariners get to play younger players in a rebuilding phase while he gets to play in meaningful games without all the pressures of a fanbase on his shoulders. The Yankees part ways with two mediocre prospects and chump change to get a popular player who will get put in the perfect situation given his skill-set. The Yankees are betting on him producing closer to his more respectable road numbers from here on out. Given the cost of acquiring him, this was a bet well worth making.
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Obviously getting out of Safeco is good for Ichiro. The OPS split speaks for itself.
I always thought Ichiro would end his career with the M’s. Sad to see him go.
I suppose it’s possible he still could end his career in a Mariner uniform.
I think when all is said and done and Ichiro is ready to finally hang it up, he signs a one day deal and “officially” retires as a Mariner.
He is going to look strange in a Yankee inform.
Beauty is only uniform deep.
He is going to look strange in a Yankee uniform.
Uniform is only beauty deep.
I assume Ichiro will platoon with Jones in LF and Ibanez will go back to primarily DH’ing. Ibanez’s role was lefty DH/5th OF coming into the season not a platoon LF.
It’s not a question of Ichiro vs Ibanez but Ichiro vs Wise or Chavez (who would play 3rd/ARod DH/Ibanez LF))
Wise was designated for assignment
To me, the “Road Mariners” are perhaps the most interesting player evaluation challenge of the last five years, because the whole team is sporting such a huge split in offensive production at home vs. on the road–and so are their opponents. The question is: who are the real Mariners? The ones who’ve scored more runs than any other team in baseball on the road, or the ones who have scored less runs than any other team in baseball at home? It’s not like many of them have any sort of offensive history in the major leagues, and those who do have been very bad in the past (Olivo, Ryan) or are declining (Figgins, Ichiro).
What’s FanGraphs’ take? Should Jack Z stick with the current crop of young hitters, or dump ’em and try again?
Maybe change the field dimensions. I don’t think that having an overly extreme field is ever a big advantage for a team. In my opinion, you want a park just barely unique enough to extract some added value out of a certain type of player (e.g. RF for the Yankees, the Wall in Boston, etc).
You don’t want something that distorts play so much that you can’t even project how a guy will play in your home park. It might hurt the pitchers a little, but it beats spending a ton of money on guys like Sexson and Beltre, only to see their skillsets damped by Safeco.
it’s like the bizarro rockies
Is Ichiro going to wear #51 or has that been retired (officially or unofficially) in honor of Bernie?
Unofficially retired for now. Like Paulie’s was/is.
He’s wearing 31.
Business sense, good for Ichiro, yadda yadda. This one hurts.
#31 sounds good. Area 51 will be remembered in RF of Safeco… where it belongs.
A look at wRC+ home/ road splits for Ichiro is interesting:
2012
home – 51
away – 98
2011
home – 83
away – 81
2010
home – 107
away – 118
2009
home – 139
away – 114
Are the Yanks still holding out for “Road” Ichiro? Maybe something else is at play here.
The “something else” is they found out Gardner’s gone for the year, and don’t want to see Banez flailing around in left any more. He’ll hit eighth, and take AB’s from Dwayne Wise and Eric Chavez.
That’s basically it. They loss defense and speed with Gardner, which Ichiro replaces. They can push Ibanez back to a no-glove status so he just DH’s against righty pitchers. He’s seeing too much time in the field and more ABs vs. lefties. Jones can then go back to being the 4th OFer. It’s potential addition by the collective sum of how the parts will now be used.
I suspect Ichiro will play more than most people think here.
Farewell Ichiro!
Awww, no he wont be the only player in the sport with an ego so large that he has his first name on his jersey.
Yankees should make an exception and let Ichiro be the only player with his name on his jersey.
Also, he might look sexy in pinstripes. Thin players wear them well.
His original team in Japan made him do that because Suzuki is a very common name. I even think that Ichiro wasn’t too comfortable with that at the beginning.
And with the Yankees he won’t be wearing either name on his back.
It would have happened here in the U.S. as well until Ichiro decided at the last minute he wouldn’t sign with Seattle if they required him to change his name to Mariners Suzuki.
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Just want to see Ichiro in the playoffs. Hope he rakes.
The logic is sound, plus I’m glad Ichiro has a shot at a WS ring. But if I have to see Carlos Peguero playing right field for the next two months… I’m probably going to throw up.
Is that you, Jay?
“.311 road wOBA compared to a .243 home wOBA”
He put up a .282 wOBA on the road last night. Makes sense when you think about it.
I think he’s going to play five days a week… it isn’t like Girardi is the type of guy that has shown he looks at the peripheral stats. He’ll look and see he has a future HOF player.
This is nothing but gut feeling, but I could see him having a little bounce-back to his form of a few years ago for the stretch run. I can’t imagine how hard it is to get up for every single game for a team you know is going to lose and be out of it by June. He might just have another few hundred good PA left in the tank.
When I first heard of the deal, I gotta admit that I wasn’t real thrilled with the idea of acquiring Ichiro. I’m actually quite content with the Jones/Ibanez platoon in left. As the article spells out, he would be quite useful as a bench/depth guy, but I don’t know if Ichiro is going to accept being a bench guy. Sure, he will be playing for a contender, but when you’ve always been “the guy” on a team, it’s got to be difficult to go to the 10th or 11th guy on a team. I hope it works out for both Ichiro and the Yankees, but this screams potential problems to me. If anything does go wrong from a team chemistry standpoint, the NY media are going to have a field day and it’ll be one of those things that just never goes away, like the Posada hitting 9th thing.
If anything goes wrong from a “chemistry” standpoint, you release him.
Ichiro’s new role was clearly communicated to him prior to the trade. He waived his NTC with full knowledge of the situation.
He’s not going to be a problem at all. Dude just wants to win.
Ichiro asked for the trade and had to waive his NTC. You’d have to think he knew what he was getting into when he did that.
If he accepts a bench/platoon role, this day makes plenty of sense, especially given the cheapness of it. I’m on board with it fully in that case.
I just think there’s a potential for a crash and burn situation. Maybe he thinks he can play well enough that he won’t have to accept a bench role. You have to assume he’s still confident in his abilities. I just have a hard time believing a guy can go from being the best offensive player on a team and a guy who has major influence on the front office to a bench player overnight. I think most people’s ego would get in the way of such a stark transition.
Pinstripe Wizard,
I believe you are just projecting your own egotistical self on Ichiro.
bop,
I believe you are just projecting that Ichiro is a person completely devoid of ego. Let’s say a standard person has had a successful career in some non-sports related field. They have been the top dog at their company for some time now, but they realize that their company is going under. They decide it’s the best move for them to go to a different company, but they have to come in as the 10th or 11th guy in the organization hierarchy. Would you likewise assume that this worker would be completely content with his situation? Probably not.
wouldn’t calling up fukudome served a better purpose?? yes, no, thoughts??
Think it depends which Ichiro you get. If he’s rejuvinated a little, takes to the friendly RF dimensions, etc., there is some pretty good upside here. If you get the same guy we’ve seen in Seattle the last few years, then yeah, you could have just kept Wise.
It’s a modest gamble, because the price was low, but one with some decent upside.
it wouldve served a worse purpose. fukudome isnt as good.
Which is miy point… he be a lefty platoon LF
What is often overlooked is the many players have very different “home” and “road” profiles, meaning that a change of park is good for them.
Ichiro may not be a rah-rah guy, but he’s never been a clubhouse problem at all. I doubt he’ll start now at age 38.
Ichiro may not be a rah-rah guy, but he’s never been a clubhouse problem at all. I doubt he’ll start now at age 38. (Dude’s no Griffey)
Why, WHY?!
Why couldn’t the Yankees trade for Michael Young instead??!?! NOOOOOO!!!!!!
i cant wait for Chase Headley to be traded…
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Ichiro’s career numbers:
Home
.320/.366/.417
Road
.324/.366/.419
Can I go to the Yankees too?
Anyone remember when one of the Fangraphs writers wrote an article (I think it was Carson Cistulli) about how well Ichiro was going to do this season? http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/ichiro-suzuki-will-rebound-a-final-postulation/
Carson Cistulli: Ichiro will regress towards his career means! BABIP lol!
Fangraphs community: 38 year old will not regress toward career means.
Looks like Carson lost that round. Now all we need is another Fangraphs writer to write a trade deadline post saying “Chone Figgins could be a valuable piece for a team! He is going to start playing towards his career means any minute now!”