Yankees, Nationals Scouting Carlos Silva

Carlos Silva has drawn attention this spring for his dugout brawl with teammate Aramis Ramirez. According to Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago, he is gaining interest for what he does on the field as well. Levine names the Washington Nationals and the New York Yankees as teams who have scouted the Cubs’ right-hander this spring.

Both Washington and New York have questions at the back end of their rotations. The Nationals have durability concerns in John Lannan and Jordan Zimmerman while the Yankees are sorting through non-roster invitees like Bartolo Colon and Freddy Garcia. In either case, it’s hard to see Silva as much of an upgrade, especially considering he is on the books for nearly $12 million – although Seattle is picking up part of the tab.

In his first season for the Cubs, Silva posted above-average metrics across the board. His 4.22 ERA was decent and his fielding independent marks were even better (3.75 FIP/3.90 xFIP). The hefty right-hander has always been stingy with walks (1.73 career BB/9), but also failed to do much in the way of strikeouts (4.73 career K/9). Last season, he continued to limit the free passes with another sub-2.0 BB/9 while increasing his K/9 to a somewhat respectable 6.37.

Looking at luck factors like BABIP, HR/FB rate, and LOB%, Silva remained relatively neutral despite some fluctuation between home and road games. His marks in each category mentioned were slightly better than career averages, but nothing that would scream fluke. Perhaps the most interesting piece of batted ball data was his ability to keep a relatively normal 10.4% HR/FB rate (10.9% career) in Wrigley field after coming over from the pitcher-friendly Safeco Field.

Going back to his improved strikeout rate, Silva finally decided that throwing his below-average fastball three-quarters of the time might not be a good idea. He lowered his fastball usage to around 53% while increasing the frequency of his slider and change-up, especially the latter.

Silva has always thrown a changeup, but never quite like he did last season. In 2010, he threw the off-speed pitch 31% of the time. Historically, it has been a below-average offering for him; his changeup, however, rated among the better ones in the game last season, earning a wCH of 9.0 – 7th best among National Leaguers (min. 110 innings).

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Despite the nifty 3.75 FIP, Silva barely passed the 2 WAR threshold because of durability issues. He made just 21 starts for Chicago and averaged fewer than 5.5 innings per start. Once upon a time, Silva was rather durable –averaging 193 innings per year from 2004-2007, but since signing a four-year contract before the 2008 season, the Bolivar native has thrown just 296 innings over the past three seasons. Looking ahead, most projection systems have him tossing between 110-135 innings in 2011.

With over 1,200 innings of major league experience, potential suitors are not going to learn anything new about Silva based on 25-30 innings this spring. More likely, they are checking his mechanics and looking around for medical records than they are his stuff. That said, Silva has not been effective this spring which doesn’t help his value.

Looking at it from Cubs’ perspective, shedding Silva’s 2011 salary is probably more important than worrying about his replacement. Whether it be someone like Braden Looper or a younger arm like James Russell, the Cubs are not likely to lose much in terms of on-field talent if they can find a suitor for Silva.

For the teams scouting him, it would not make much sense for a team like the Nationals to add an oft-injured, league average starter to a team with 75-80 win talent and young arms with more upside. As far as the Yankees go, Silva is no better option than Bartolo Colon or Ivan Nova, especially when you consider similar injury concerns as Colon and the lower salaries of the current Yankees battling for a spot.





Tommy Rancel also writes for Bloomberg Sports and ESPNFlorida.com. Follow on twitter @TRancel

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odbsol
15 years ago

Opens a spot for Cashner hopefully. Was never a big fan but it will be interesting to see the effect if any that Larry Rothschild had on the pitching staff.

Jack Nugent
15 years ago
Reply to  odbsol

I was just gonna say– losing Silva wouldn’t necessarily mean Looper or God forbid James Russell getting a rotation spot. Hell, I’d rather see Casey Coleman get the spot before either of those two, even if he’d only be keeping the seat warm for Andrew Cashner, who would probably just get the job outright.

To me, the idea that Russell is even a halfway viable candidate to start is just a bad joke. I wish no one would even include his name in the discussion.

gnomez
15 years ago
Reply to  Jack Nugent

Todd Wellemeyer has his moments. For the 1/5 of the time when he’s pitching and pitching well, he’s pretty fun to watch. He was good in ’08 and great that year when LaRussa wasn’t pitching him on short rest or pitching him hurt.

CircleChange11
15 years ago

Makes me wonder how many other pitching coaches tried to get him to throw a change or similar pitch that could take hitters off of the fastball?

MikeS
15 years ago

He might be OK in the NL east but the AL east? That could get ugly.

Bobby A
15 years ago

Please, Hendry, trade him for anything or trade him for nothing. Just, please, trade him ASAP.

Jack Nugent
15 years ago
Reply to  Bobby A

I guess some salary relief would be nice, but the Cubs shouldn’t necessarily be desperate to find a taker for him. You could do far worse than guy like Silva for your #5 spot in the NL. Guy just doesn’t walk anyone, and if you can pull that trick, you can pitch in the NL.

Llewdor
15 years ago

When I hear about Carlos Silva, all I can think of are the stories of him at In-N-Out Burger at spring training when he was with the Mariners.

Eeaggh!

Jack Nugent
15 years ago

I don’t care how desperate the Yankees are, they can’t be giving Silva really serious consideration. He would get absolutely torched in the AL. The Nationals I can maybe see, but this wouldn’t solve anything for the Yankees.

mockcarr
15 years ago

Doesn’t make sense for the Nats either unless a Cub prospect is also involved and they’re really worried about someone like Detwiler’s options. Also, Lannan has pitched 182, 206 and 184 innings in the last three years, he’s plenty durable. Zimmermann will be limited after TJ surgery, but they plenty of arms in the depth chart with a chance of being better Silva this year, never mind in the future, and should be able to give someone worth looking at those innings in September if they have to shut him down. Unless Gorzelanny is awful it’ll be him as the fifth starter after Livo, Lannan, Marquis, and Zimmermann. Detwiler has looked really good and could push for a spot since he’s out of options, but Silva would be an awful return for him.

pmac
15 years ago
Reply to  mockcarr

according to Bill Ladson of MLB.com Detwiler has one option year remaining:

http://therocket.mlblogs.com/archives/2011/03/a_look_at_minor_league_options.html

mockcarrMember since 2016
15 years ago
Reply to  pmac

The Nats must have been able to cancel an option on Detwiler then, because 2010 would have been his fourth year.

david
15 years ago

carlos silva is both literally and figuratively the fat ugly girl at the party who makes her friends look better. then again, so are colon and garcia (aj burnett is starting to look pretty hot).

kick me in the GO NATS
15 years ago

I am a Nats fan and think JD Martin is better than Silva.

Rob
15 years ago

If either of these teams is seriously considering Carlos Silva, the Braves would offer them a heck of a deal on Kenshin Kawakami.

Yuvisay Gómez
15 years ago

Carlos muchísimos saludos , espero te recuerdes quien soy , yuvisay tu amiga de la infancia besos desde Alemania .. Saludos a Zulay