Yoenis Cespedes and the Cuban Tradition
I don’t mean to #humblebrag, but I was there in person for Yoenis Cespedes’s first home run in a major league uniform. It was just the luck of circumstance: I was there with a lot of my Fangraphs colleagues for spring training, and the first spring training game of my life just happened to feature the moment where Jeff Francis tried to sneak an 82-mile an hour fastball past Cuba’s best outfielder. Mike Newman was there as well, and he captured the moment. But now that Yoenis has homered in his second continent and third major land mass, I thought I’d take a look at the recent history of Cuba’s best players to come to America, to whose number Cespedes now belongs.
Cespedes isn’t the best Cuban slugger, of course: that’d probably be Jose Abreu, whom Fangraphs alum Jonah Keri called “a hitter so big, so powerful, he just might be better than anyone else on Earth.” Last year in Cuba, Cespedes hit 33 homers in 354 at-bats; Abreu hit 33 homers in 212 at-bats, which is Bonds-in-’04 type of crazy. But he’s a hitter first and foremost; he plays first base and reportedly not well. Cespedes, according to his promotional video, has “explosive ability” and “core power.”
Part of the appeal of Cespedes, beyond that amazing video, is that Cuban baseball is still hard to translate to the United States. As Bradley Woodrum noted two months ago, Cuba’s professional league might be somewhere around the level of High-A ball, and it’s hard to make apples-to-apples comparisons because elite American players generally don’t play A-ball in their mid-20s. So Cespedes could be anything. He could be amazing. Two days into his major league career, we still don’t know.
That said, there have been a lot of Cuban-born players in the major leagues: counting Cespedes, to date, there have been 72 Cuban-born pitchers and 98 Cuban-born position players in the majors.One Cuban in the majors has been elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame, Tony Perez. Martin Dihigo, Cristobal Torriente, and Jose Mendez, who played in the Negro Leagues, were all inducted much later.* But still, even though we don’t have the best notion of how to translate Cuban stats to the majors, we know what the best of Cuba looks like. If Cespedes is the best Cuban player, then we can compare him to others who were the best in their own eras.
* At least six of the position players also moonlighted on the mound: Julio Becquer, Bert Campaneris, Jose Canseco, Marty Martinez, Cookie Rojas, and Gil Torres. At the spring training game where Cespedes hit his blast, Campaneris was outside signing autographs for A’s fans, next to George Foster, who was signing for Reds fans. Also, as I wrote last year, Tony Perez is one of only seven major leaguers born outside the United States and Puerto Rico to make the Hall of Fame.
The top two Cuban-born sluggers in major league history will likely never make the Hall. Nonetheless, Jose Canseco and Rafael Palmeiro were wonderful hitters for a very long time. They are the only two Cuban-born players ever to hit 400 homers. Tony Perez, at 379, is in third place; Tony Oliva is in fourth place with 220 and Minnie Minoso is in fifth place with 186. In other words, even though the 26-year old Cespedes is unlikely to pass Palmeiro or Canseco, if he averages 23 homers a year over the next decade, then he could be the fourth-leading home run hitter in Cuban history.
Many of the most prominent recent Cuban defectors have been pitchers, such as the brothers Orlando and Livan Hernandez, and Jose Contreras, the pitcher who was so highly valued that, when the New York Yankees outbid the Boston Red Sox for his services, Red Sox president Larry Lucchino famously referred to the Yankees as the “Evil Empire.” One of the three Cuban Hall of Famers who played in the Negro Leagues was pitcher Jose Mendez, and another was Martin “El Maestro” Dihigo, a pitcher and hitter whom Buck Leonard called “the best player of all time, black or white.”
While no Cuban-born pitcher in the major leagues has yet made the Hall, Luis Tiant is often mentioned as one of the best pitchers not in the Hall of Fame. Still, while Cespedes may be a five-tool player, he probably isn’t a six-tool player like Dihigo. If Yoenis ever pitches, his mound results are likely to bear a closer resemblance to those of Canseco than Dihigo, Tiant or Mendez. So the A’s had probably better just keep him in the field.
That’s something of a shame, considering that only one Cuban has ever won the Cy Young, Mike Cuellar in 1969. Cespedes has a slightly better chance of breaking the dry spell for other hardware. Only two Cubans have ever won the MVP, Zoilo Versalles in 1965 and Canseco in 1988 (the year he had the first 40-40 campaign in baseball history).
However, he could easily be the first Cuban All-Star in several years. There are 23 All-Stars in Cuban history, 11 pitchers and 12 hitters. But none recently. The last Cuban-born All-Star was actually Jose Contreras, back in 2006; believe it or not, the last Cuban-born position player to make the All-Star team was Jose Canseco back in 1999. On his present talent-starved team, Cespedes has a good chance of breaking that dry spell.
In fairness, Yoenis Cespedes has hit all of two homers since signing a $36 million contract with the Athletics, and one came on an 82-mile an hour fastball in an exhibition game; the other came on a hanging slider from Shawn Kelley, a 27-year old pitcher who has now given up 15 homers in 84 career innings. So Cespedes has a long way to go. There have been a lot of Cuban players in the majors but only a few historic greats, and the next couple of years will show us what Cespedes can be: an all-time great or just a good player, the next Tony Perez or the next Sandy Amoros. It’ll be fun to watch.
Alex is a writer for The Hardball Times.
I was interested for the first four paragraphs; when you said you’d compare him to the other cubans who “were best in their own era” i was hoping see what his cuban league stats looked like compared with others who shifted to the majors.
This has nothing to do with this post but Morales, Trumbo and Conger just went back to back to back for about 1100 ft of home Runs. Trumbo Hit one right center off the scoreboard, but Morales absolutely crushed one over the picnic area in left-center onto the road. This team has gotta give Abreu his release if they cannot trade him.
As a feverish Angel fan, thank you and let me tie it back to Cuba: Morales played for Industriales, I caught one of their games in Havana (awesome, everyone should go), and can provide this scouting report: most of the guys on Industriales are better than 2012 Vernon Wells and Juan Uribe, the guys on non-Industriales teams are better than me.
lol 1100 feet is a bomb and two wall scrapers.
Yes, that wasn’t well thought out.
Kendrys Morales will break the dry spell before Cespedes.
The only thing I would predict Morales to break is a bone.
It seems you haven’t been watching him then.
what dry spell are u guys talking about. morales is in trouble
Hmm, a Cuban who has a ton of power but has trouble with the curve ball and was signed by a team with a low payroll, low attendance, and few expectations for success this season. Oh, and ownership badly wants to leave town.
Can we start calling him Pedro Cerrano?
This comparison is ridiculous. Cespedes is a five-tool center fielder, while Serrano never once put up a positive UZR in right field.
*Cerrano
You certainly have to discount Cuban ball, but A ball, that’s a little much. I’d venture an opinion it’s more AA+.
Certainly possible. Ultimately, it’s really hard for us to know for sure, in large part because (unlike with Japan), there are no players who have made the leap from MLB to Cuba.
But that’s not necessary, Alex. How many players have jumped from A+ ball to MLB? I can’t think of the last one. Plenty of veteran Cuban players in their mid-20’s have transitioned directly to MLB quite well.
However, the point I think is missing from a lot of the comparisons is that the leagues and teams in Cuba are very different in talent level. And sometimes top players are dropped down to the lower rungs because they are deemed a threat to defect. As one might expect, assignments are not based primarily on merit, so the evaluations have to be quite a bit harder relative to competition.
Albert Pujols and Rafael Furcal both jumped from A-ball to the majors. So did Rick Porcello.
The point is, it’s very hard to consider an equivalency translator from the Cuban League to MLB (like Clay Davenport’s) as totally reliable because we don’t have a good counterfactual.
The picture Steve Balboni painted above, where he hinted that there’s some good talent over there but maybe not a whole lot of depth, seems to be the best guess. Special talent is in Cuba, just not a lot of it. It’s really hard to make a direct comparison of that to any specific level of minor league play here.
either way, not AAA or major leagues
The name is mispelled, no? Y-o-e-n-i-s.
Right you are. Thanks, fixed.
How about Alexei Ramirez? Seems like he would be a good comp. Cespedes looks like he would hit for more power but a lower average than Alexei.
Bradley Woodrum made the Ramirez comparison a couple of months ago, in the article I linked above: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/yoenis-cespedes-and-the-success-of-cuban-players/
The only thing is that we don’t know what the ultimate arc of Ramirez’s career will be. So I wanted to look at a few players whose full careers (or nearly full, in the case of Livan) we already know about.
Why is his name misspelled throughout the whole article, but yet linked to the correct player page?
NVM. Now fixed.
If Phil Rizzuto is in the hall based on his cultural impact, longevity, and charisma, there’s no reason El Tiante should be ignored.
Along these lines, there were some writings that came out around when the last Veterans Committee stuff was going down that convinced me Minoso should be getting more consideration for the Hall.
Is the island of Japan the third major land mass? If considered as part of the Asian continent, would that make it the third continent in which Yoenis homered, assuming North and South Amerigo? If he never homered in South America, where is the second land mass he has homered? I was thrown off course by this lede, lo siento!
Yeah, apologies for the awkward construction. He has now homered in Cuba, Arizona, and Japan. Cuba isn’t South America — it is probably considered to be North America — but it’s a really really big island, so I figured that it counted as a “land mass.” Add that to the continental United States and Japan, and that’s three big ol’ land masses.
He also hit in the Dominican Winter League.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_xDVWfTkuc
That would make it the fourth land mass.
Just wanted to throw in Yunel Escobar’s name to this discussion. Poor guy.
As a Braves fan, I have a lot of complicated emotions about Yunel. We don’t know the arc of his career. He may have All-Star seasons ahead of him — he probably deserved to be an All-Star in 2009 — but now that he’s 29, it remains to be seen whether the best of his career is already behind him or whether he has one crazy consolidation season left in him.
Most Jays fans are happy with the Escobar acquisition. Yes, he sometimes has mental lapses, but overall he’s been a solid offensive and defensive SS – a difficult commodity to find in baseball- and has not exhibited any major character issues. He seemed pretty comfortable in 2011. I’m hoping that having Omar Visquel on the bench this year will help keep him playing at a high level. In any case, it remains to be seen whether Adeiny Hechavarria is the heir apparent at short (he’s ML-ready now defensively, but his bat probably needs at least another season in the minors).
Since when is Japan a continent or a large land mass?
It’s three times larger than Cuba, so I think you’re starting off with the wrong complaint.
I’ll be the nitpicky douche… your first line is in no way a humblebrag. 🙂 I don’t know how that phrase morphed from what it actually means to people using it for straight brags. A humblebrag would be like “uhh, I’m stuck in this air conditioned press box watching Yoenis Cespedes’s debut and he hit a foul ball in here just before going yard.”
I’m just busting chops. More to actual point… the piece was good!
Well, the first line wasn’t a humblebrag, but it could have been: “I’d never seen a spring training game before, so I went with about 20 people from Fangraphs and saw the best Cuban baseball player hit his first homer in America. No big deal, I got lucky, I guess.”
My favorite Cuban player has always been Adolfo Dominguez De Guzman Luque. Had one of the greatest pitching seasons of all time in 1923 — 10.1 bWAR.
Yoenis HR’d in Mexico in ’09, so mainland North America was checked off long before FanGraphs showed up to watch. #humblebubbleburst
He also homered in Japan in 2010. But he wasn’t in a major league uniform for either.
he’s not the best cuban player
That was not a fastball. That was a cement mixer slider. You’re better than that. I throw harder than 82.
You certainly didn’t in that game.
1. The HR was off Kelly.
2. That’s the type of pitch YC (and every other decent MLB hitter) will crush, a cockshot spinning slider that he can muscle out swinging with straight arms (i.e, swinging a club).
I have no idea why pitchers aren’t busting him inside. Knock his fingernails off. Of course I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that Kelly wasn’t trying to throw a rusty nail.
Note: Before the straight arms things takes on a life of its own … he actually has decent mechanics.
You can see in the clip that he’s using pelvic tilt and a bent back arm.
He’s a club swinger, but not so much in this HR.
Cespedes is worth .3 WAR after 2 games. That is a real nice start!
The A’s are like my cigar smoking: we both have a Cuban once every 20 or so years.
late 60’s: Campaneris
late 80’s: Canseco
early 10’s: Cespedes
Pattern:
Cam – Can – Ces
Seems they missed signing a Castro somewhere along the line.
First thing first. Rafael Palmeiro should statistically speaking go into the Hall of Fame. Sure he likely may not, but that has nothing to do with his production, but your phrasing makes it seem like he was not good enough to do so.
Secondly, I think that we need to remove players like Palmeiro, Mike Lowell, Jose Canseco, and Tino Martinez out of the equation. These guys are Cuban Americans (Cuban-Rican in Mike Lowell’s case). Yes the other three were born in Cuba, but they all moved as small children and are not products of Cuban baseball.
If we are looking for comps lets try to keep it to guys who had a lengthy track record in Cuba but also came to MLB while in or before their prime. Therefore eliminating the old guys like Rolando Arrojo, El Duque, Contreas and also not counting the young players who were / will be greatly molded by their time in milb (Iglesias, Alonso, Grandal, Vicieno, and Fernandez). This leaves us with a pretty small sample, but one that may prove more useful.
Tino was born in Tampa, and Lowell was born in Puerto Rico to a Cuban parent. But otherwise I agree with the spirit of this, and this is actually the exact parsing that I did in my last column, about Japanese pitchers, in which I removed from the sample all pitchers who hadn’t grown up in Japan or pitched in NPB before MLB.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/torii-hunter-all-japanese-pitchers-have-same-style/
I didn’t go through quite as carefully here, but I certainly could have.