ZiPS Time Warp: Johan Santana

When people get excited about the Rule 5 draft at the Winter Meetings, Johan Santana is one of the biggest reasons why. Roberto Clemente is almost certainly the best player ever taken in this event, but Santana leads a healthy spoonful of All-Stars who found new teams when their old ones couldn’t find the roster spot (this list also includes names such as Bobby Bonilla, George Bell, Josh Hamilton, and Shane Victorino). It took another trade to get Santana to the club for which he’d achieve his greatest exploits, the Minnesota Twins. After receiving Cy Young votes in six consecutive seasons and winning two trophies, injuries quickly ended Santana’s career before he reached his mid-30s.

The Twins weren’t even the team that launched Santana to stardom, though they certainly received a benefit from the Rule 5 draft. Knowing the Marlins wanted Jared Camp, the Twins took him in the 1999 Rule 5, only to instantly trade him to the Marlins for Santana and $500,000. Santana certainly wasn’t a finished product at this point and struggled in a mop-up role for Minnesota in his rookie season. His 2002 campaign didn’t go much better, as he was raw and didn’t have a true out pitch to punch out batters, and he missed significant time due to an elbow injury.

Santana was never a star on the radar gun, and at this point, a less determined team may have simply been happy to move on with the half a million bucks they pocketed. But the Twins persisted, and while converting Santana to a starting pitching role in the minors in 2002, former Ranger reliever Bobby Cuellar worked with Santana on refining his changeup and making it the centerpiece of his repertoire.

Santana fiddled with a changeup before 2002, but that was when the pitch blossomed. After Minnesota sent Santana to Class AAA Edmonton to convert him from a reliever to a starter, Bobby Cuellar, the pitching coach there, preached about the significance of trusting his changeup in any situation.

During bullpen sessions, Cuellar would tell Santana to imagine the count was 2-0 or 3-0 and would instruct him to throw a changeup. During games, Cuellar sometimes had Santana toss seven straight changeups. Although Santana said it took months to be that bold, Cuellar said he saw “a little glow in Johan’s eye” as the pitch developed. By July 2003, Santana was in the Twins’ rotation. By 2004, he was a 20-game winner.

Santana’s control was yet to reach the levels it would during his prime, but his change quickly became a weapon. From an overall run value standpoint, his changeup ranked 14th in baseball in 2002 and 17th in 2003. Coincidentally, his first Cy Young vote came in 2003.

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Santana started the 2004 season in the rotation and won the American League Cy Young award in convincing fashion, going 20-6 with a 2.61 ERA, a 2.92 FIP, and a sterling 6.8 WAR. And then he went ahead and did it again for the next half-decade. The last year of his Cy Young vote streak came with the Mets after the rebuilding Twins traded him for Carlos Gómez, Deolis Guerra, Kevin Mulvey, and Phil Humber.

During this six-year run, Santana’s change was the most valuable in baseball. And according to our pitch value data, it wasn’t even particularly close. No other pitch in baseball came within 20 runs, and it nearly doubled the value of the next best changeup, that of Jamie Moyer.

Most Valuable Pitches in Baseball, 2003-08
Name Pitch Value
Johan Santana Changeup 118.0
Carlos Zambrano Fastball 97.2
Randy Johnson Slider 92.8
Roy Oswalt Fastball 90.8
Jake Peavy Fastball 85.8
Johan Santana Fastball 83.5
Roger Clemens Fastball 83.2
Roy Halladay Curve 81.2
Jeremy Bonderman Slider 80.7
CC Sabathia Slider 80.1
Billy Wagner Fastball 78.4
Brad Lidge Slider 75.0
John Smoltz Slider 74.9
Chris Young Fastball 73.3
B.J. Ryan Fastball 72.9
Mariano Rivera Cutter 70.6
Brandon Webb Fastball 70.3
Joe Nathan Fastball 70.2
Jonathan Papelbon Fastball 70.1
Scot Shields Fastball 69.1
Brett Myers Curve 68.2
A.J. Burnett Curve 66.6
Josh Beckett Fastball 65.3
Roger Clemens Splitter 65.3
Rafael Betancourt Fastball 65.2
Ben Sheets Fastball 60.8
Jamie Moyer Changeup 60.5
Jason Schmidt Fastball 59.8
Chien-Ming Wang Fastball 56.7
Cole Hamels Changeup 55.2

Like the best changeups, Santana’s made his fastball into a dominating pitch as well, despite a peak average of only 93 mph. The pitch had so many different looks that he never had a pressing need to develop a breaking pitch into a key weapon. His slider was a perfectly adequate pitch, but it was more or less the The Godfather Part III of his arsenal’s trilogy. With his changeup being of the circle-change variety, nastily dipping away from right-handed batters, one could say that it already filled the role!

It would be misleading to call 2009 or 2010 poor seasons given that Santana combined for 7.2 WAR and a 3.05 ERA, but there were clear signs that he was coming down from his peak. The changeup wasn’t as effective as in past seasons and his contact numbers crept up, first to a career-high 78.4% in 2009, and then another high at 81.5% in 2010. Generally healthy since his days as a reliever, Santana required surgeries that ended both seasons, first to remove bone chips in his elbow and then, far more seriously, to repair a torn anterior capsule in his shoulder. This injury also cost him his 2011 season.

The old stuff did not return in his 2012 comeback. His fastball’s velocity dropped down to 88 mph, and with his change no longer anywhere near as potent as in the past, Santana relied on the slider more. It wasn’t enough to get him back to the glory days, and ankle and back problems short-circuited his return. He never pitched in the majors again. A repeat of the torn capsule caused a missed 2013 season and a torn Achilles deep-sixed the attempted 2014 comeback with the Orioles. Santana signed with the Jays for 2015, but again wasn’t healthy enough to ever get into a minor league game, his season ending when he was derailed by a toe infection.

For years, Santana held out hopes that he could make a final comeback bid, but he finally announced his retirement during his induction to the Twins Hall of Fame, almost six years after his last game.

To my loud social media contempt at times, Santana received little consideration on his Hall of Fame ballot debut, receiving only 10 votes (2.4%) and being quietly eliminated on the first ballot. I don’t yet have a vote, but if I did, I would have voted for him based on his peak. As lefties with short careers and overwhelming dominance at their best go, it’s hard to not compare Santana to Sandy Koufax.

Koufax vs. Santana Peaks
Pitcher Years W L IP K ERA ERA+ FIP WAR
Sandy Koufax 1962-1966 111 34 1377 1444 1.95 167 2.00 40.0
Johan Santana 2003-08 98 42 1305 1358 2.85 156 3.21 33.5

Koufax’s peak comes out ahead, for sure, but in comparison, Santana pulls off an amazing feat: he doesn’t look ridiculous next to Koufax. Is the difference between Sandy Koufax and a poor man’s Sandy Koufax really enough to turn one from a pitcher believed to be an inner-circle Hall of Famer to being one-and-outed on the Hall ballot? For me, the answer is a vigorous no. It didn’t shock me that he fell off the ballot, but I was quite surprised that there was barely any discussion of Santana in sportswriter circles at the time.

Would a more typical decline phase for a star pitcher have gotten Santana into Cooperstown? Let’s fire up the old ZiPS time machine after the 2008 season. Instead of tearing his shoulder, let’s Santana just continued to tear the hearts out of even the most gimlet-eyed slugger.

ZiPS Time Warp: Johan Santana, 2008
Year W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA+ WAR
2000 2 3 6.49 30 5 86.0 102 62 11 54 64 80 0.0
2001 1 0 4.74 15 4 43.7 50 23 6 16 28 96 0.0
2002 8 6 2.99 27 14 108.3 84 36 7 49 137 150 3.4
2003 12 3 3.07 45 18 158.3 127 54 17 47 169 148 3.7
2004 20 6 2.61 34 34 228.0 156 66 24 54 265 182 6.8
2005 16 7 2.87 33 33 231.7 180 74 22 45 238 155 7.1
2006 19 6 2.77 34 34 233.7 186 72 24 47 245 162 6.7
2007 15 13 3.33 33 33 219.0 183 81 33 52 235 129 4.0
2008 16 7 2.53 34 34 234.3 206 66 23 63 206 166 5.2
2009 15 9 3.06 31 31 188.3 170 64 19 43 212 134 4.7
2010 14 8 2.95 28 28 176.7 156 58 13 42 195 133 4.5
2011 14 8 2.78 28 28 174.7 150 54 13 37 201 133 4.4
2012 13 7 2.85 26 26 161.0 139 51 15 33 195 133 4.1
2013 12 7 2.75 24 24 150.7 129 46 13 31 183 129 3.7
2014 11 6 2.71 23 23 139.7 123 42 12 29 170 127 3.3
2015 10 6 2.95 21 21 128.0 116 42 13 27 159 129 2.9
2016 9 6 3.58 19 19 115.7 105 46 15 29 134 112 2.4
2017 8 5 3.69 17 17 102.3 94 42 14 28 127 113 2.0
2018 7 5 3.43 15 15 89.3 83 34 12 23 114 109 1.6
2019 5 4 4.09 13 13 77.0 75 35 15 20 103 99 1.2
2020 4 4 4.18 11 11 64.7 65 30 12 18 81 97 0.8
Year W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA+ WAR
ZiPS RoC 122 74 3.12 255 256 1568.0 1405 544 166 360 1874 124 35.6
Actual 30 27 3.49 75 75 482.7 452 187 53 140 401 113 8.7
Year W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA+ WAR
ZiPS Career 231 125 3.12 540 465 3111.0 2679 1078 333 787 3461 138 72.5
Actual 139 78 3.20 360 284 2025.7 1726 721 220 567 1988 136 45.6

I think the projected 231 wins, when considered with the dizzying heights Santana achieved at his best, would have been enough to get him into Cooperstown. I went through and did award projections for 2009-14 and ZiPS estimated, going into each of these theoretical years, that he would have snagged another 1.4 Cy Young awards and nearly 2.5 Cy Young “shares,” giving him a little more hardware to go with the career numbers. Also helpful is that the decline in league offense for most of the 2010s, coupled with the increased strikeout rates — established pitchers had their strikeout rates go up, so the effect wasn’t just caused by new pitchers — would have helped mask Santana’s decline.

One thing to remember is that these projections aren’t assuming that Santana has perfect health, simply typical health. If he had been able to remain a workhorse, the ceiling on those win totals could have put him at least near the 300-win mark. As it is, ZiPS is projecting 231 victories despite never giving him a 50/50 shot of qualifying for the ERA title in any given season after 2011.

One of Santana’s regrets that he’s talked about on multiple occasions is how disappointed he was that he wasn’t able to end his baseball career on his own terms. I like to think that in some universe out there, there’s a Johan Santana capping off his career and giving thoughts to his Cooperstown speech.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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Fredchuckdave
5 years ago

Santana probably still has a shot at the Veteran’s committee eventually, considering he’s way better than Harold Baines.

MikeSMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Fredchuckdave

Harold Baines was my favorite player for a few years in the 1980’s so believe me when I say that we CAN NOT let “he’s better than Harold Baines” become the standard for the Hall of Fame.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

It’s karma, because Baines should be in based on the “he’s better than Kirby Puckett” argument 😉

RonnieDobbs
5 years ago

No DH should be in the HOF IMO. I wouldn’t feel sorry for them if they were not in the HOF. They already get a gift of a career.

HM70Member since 2020
5 years ago

I think the main knock against Santana is similar to the main knock against a guy like Scott Rolen and one that Walker faced finally getting inducted in 2020. Santana could not shake the narrative of being injured and became a poster child of the “what could have been” aspect of history. Walker had enough bulk (and so far, so has Rolen) to stick around but pitchers have also faced a much steeper uphill climb in the past 30 or so years for the Hall of Fame. After Fergie Jenkins in 1991, it took until 2011 for another pitcher without 300 wins to get inducted in Blyleven. Thankfully, more voters are coming off those milestone peaks that few pitchers are going to be able to attain in this current era (Pedro, Doc, Moose) so I’d be interested to see how Santana would fare on the 2021 ballot.

RonnieDobbs
5 years ago
Reply to  HM70

Rolen was never even in the discussion for best player in baseball which is am important difference. The same is true of Walker. Santana was among the best SP in baseball for several years. Johan seems like he had a real ability to limit hits and WAR and other metrics flat-out penalize him for one of his best skills. Unfortunately some players have skills that machines don’t value correctly. In his own time he should have won three consecutive Cy Youngs, but moderns metrics don’t really value how good he was. There is also the reality that he was competing against folks on PEDs, which just hurts his numbers relative to the rest of the league. Notice that his predicted ERA is always higher than his actual ERA. Make no mistake, moderns voters are not more informed – they just use WAR and other counting stat derivatives. As our metrics arbitrarily change players like Walker become more valued, but there are also guys that get lost in the shuffle. IMO we should only judge people based on what they did during their career. Guys should not become better after they retire. That happens as we arbitrarily adjust our ideas of value. Johan was one of the greats when he pitched.

tomerafan
5 years ago

Loved Santana and he belongs in the Hall of Peak alongside Tim Lincecum and Dwight Gooden… guys that I hope the game never forgets, but that aren’t at that true Hall of Fame level. In particular, Santana’s 2006 season is one of the most underrated pitching seasons in the last 50 years and has been sadly overlooked.

Thank you for not perpetuating the myth that the Mets “ruined” Santana by leaving him in to complete his 2012 no-hitter, the first in team history. It gets mentioned all the time in retrospectives on his career and simply isn’t true. He was running on fumes by that point; his early season stats looked good but it felt like he was dancing on a fine line where the league was bound to catch up to him as the stuff was gone. Either way, he entered June 2012 with a 2.75 ERA and left the month with a nearly-identical 2.76 six starts later…then the bottom fell out in July. Reports that tossing 130 pitches in the no-hitter “finished” him seem greatly exaggerated.

dl80Member since 2026
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

He got crushed in the next two games, though.

But the ankle injury covering first base may also have had something to do with it. I think, given Santana’s competitiveness and the stage of his career, it was the right thing to leave him in. He was already declining, so it’s not as if we lost a bunch of peak Johan years, even IF the no-hitter contributed (which it may not have).

Imagine if Santana were pulled in the 8th, the Mets lost the no-hitter, and he still had the torn shoulder.

RonnieDobbs
5 years ago
Reply to  dl80

It was absolutely the right decision. He was already a shell of himself and he had little left and he got to end on a high note. Very few pitchers ever come back from a shoulder. The list is short and I assume that the injuries are relatively minor when they do. The shoulder is a complex joint and I imagine that there are many shoulder injuries that are impossible to come back from – I suspect he had one of those.

Jimbob SweatypantsMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

I’ve heard of the “Hall of Very Good” but not the “Hall of Peak”. I like it.

RonnieDobbs
5 years ago

Same here. Sustained peak is supposed to be the most valid criteria, no? It is hard to separate from the Hall of Fluke, which also exists.

RonnieDobbs
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

Neither of those players had three great consecutive seasons and Santana did. That is a real separator for me. Arbitrary? Yeah, I guess but that really does separate out the Lincys from the Johans. Johan led the league in everything that matters the most for three consecutive years. He didn’t have some weird little peak. Johan had 5 top 5 Cy Young vote seasons. Tim had 2. Dwight had 4 – I think the fact that they were spread over such a long period is a knock. Johan either pitched 200 IP and was a top 5 Cy Young vote getter or didn’t pitch 200 IP. To be fair, I think they are all HOF pitchers but Johan has a much better case than those two. I have this crazy idea that the most dominant players of all time should be celebrated. IMO the only exception is a player that only has a really short peak. Honestly I might exclude Tiny Tim on that basis but I also think consecutive Cys are an instant induction. I am sure this is frowned on here, but go check out baseball-reference where the awards and league leaders get some recognition. Fangraphs is the worst place to appreciate history and recognize historic context.

I think you will be happy to know that I gained additional appreciation for Doc Gooden based on this comment. I though he was more of a flash in the pan than he was. IMO it is posts like your that can help people to gain greater appreciation for things that they otherwise would have missed.

tung_twista
5 years ago

The frustrating thing about Santana’s candidacy is ’05 Cy Young voting.
Santana: 16W 7L 33GS 231.2IP ERA 2.87 FIP 2.80 fwar 7.1 bwar 7.2
Colon: 21W 8L 33GS 222.2IP ERA 3.48 FIP 3.75 fwar 4.1 bwar 4.0
Let people vote now and it would probably be unanimous and a 3-peat Cy Young winner would not have been one-and-done.

PhilMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

On the plus side, that Cy Young award gives a boost to Bartolo’s HoF case…

Cave Dameron
5 years ago
Reply to  Phil

I don’t see how that’ a plus.

soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Cave Dameron

Oh, c’mon. Everything about Bartolo is “plus”.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

Yeah, Santana got totally screwed on that one, just because of a 5 win deficit.

Actually, an interesting article for Fangraphs would be a devil’s advocate article arguing that this was chosen correctly. I would love to hear a competent defense of Colon’s winning this award, mostly because I can’t think of what it would be.

RonnieDobbs
5 years ago

Voters do not like awarding MVPs back-to-back in any sport. I imagine that is the complete explanation. FanGraphs is in no way qualified to tackle that discussion as far as I am concerned. Pick a bunch of arbitrary stats based on bad data and connect some dots and a flimsy narrative – pass!

Handsome Wes
5 years ago

So this is what would have happened if Mike Baxter dropped that catch

Justin KaiserMember since 2020
5 years ago

The epitome of an ace. The numbers back it up, but even as he faltered with the Mets the days he pitched were just different. It truly breaks my heart how it ended so soon for him.

hopbittersMember since 2020
5 years ago

I was in a fantasy league back in ’02 (well, probably one of several) and was looking for a cheap boost to my pitcher stats. I don’t remember all the details, but I do remember searching on K/9 and K/BB and seeing this Santana kid pop up at the top of the list, so I picked him up and he did pretty all right by me over the next few years.

pedeysRSox
5 years ago

It would be awesome if you did one for Javier Vazquez after 2011 to look at what might have happened.

Samuel E. GiddinsMember since 2020
5 years ago

Being projected to start 256 of his remaining 255 games pitched would indeed have been pretty special to see!

Sonny LMember since 2017
5 years ago

The Johan of the mind certainly could have started both games of a double header once in 10 years.

Sleepy
5 years ago

MOST VALUABLE PITCHES IN BASEBALL, 2003-08

Roger Clemens has two pitches in the Top 25. 2003-07 were Roger Clemens’ age-40-thru-44 seasons. Roger Clemens didn’t pitch in 2008. Holy hell.

RonnieDobbs
5 years ago
Reply to  Sleepy

Those PED fueled stats cheapen Johan’s stats. That entire era devalues what Johan did.

MikeSMember since 2020
5 years ago

Two memories as a White Sox fan:

He worked fast, too. I attended a game in 2006 when it was Santana/Buehrle. Got up for beers and missed the top AND bottom of the fourth inning.

Ozzie Guillen always liked to stack the lineup against him with righties, since he was a left handed ace. That just played right into his changeup. For his career, righties had a .276 wOBA against him and lefties were .295.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago

Agreed – I am a Twins fan, and while I don’t believe Santana is by any means a slam dunk hall of famer, it’s egregious to have him fall off the ballot so quickly. His career simply ended with such a thud, and he played for teams with so few (read: zero) playoff exploits, that I think people didn’t take seriously that this guy was on the short list of best pitchers in the game for a six year period.

On a personal preference side, his changeup was one of the most fun single pitches I can think of. He wouldn’t just strike guys out, he would make it look embarrassing. There aren’t many pitchers who had one pitch that was just so visually fun to watch people flail at. Maybe Zito’s curveball, Wakefield’s, knuckleball….The only current single-pitch comp I can think of right now is maybe Hader or Aroldis.

RonnieDobbs
5 years ago

Johan Santana is an easy Hall of Famer. He has an excellent argument as the best pitcher in baseball three times. He really should have won three consecutive Cy Youngs. Everyone with multiple Cy Youngs should be in the HOF. Few pitchers have ever had the dominant peak that Johan had, but unfortunately voters worship counting stats and metrics built on countng stats. His no-hitter that he threw after battling back is a testament to his incredible pitchability. If there were a player type that would have pitched forever it is Johan Sanatna – a lefty with good command whose best pitch is a change. The way that he attempted comeback after comeback speaks to his work ethic and determination. Johan Santana is one of the best SP to ever play the game. Only a computer or someone who just wasn’t paying attention could miss his greatness.