2015 ZiPS Projections – Seattle Mariners

After having typically appeared in the very hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have been released at FanGraphs the past couple years. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the Seattle Mariners. Szymborski can be found at ESPN and on Twitter at @DSzymborski.

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Batters
In the first year of his 10-year and $240 million contract with the M’s, Robinson Cano served as a one-man illustration of park effects, recording almost precisely the same batting-average and on-base figures as the previous season with the Yankees, but producing only half the home runs. (We’ll ignore for the moment that he actually hit more homers at Safeco than on the road, as that would disturb the narrative.) The result was a park-adjusted offensive line roughly approximating 2013’s. ZiPS calls for another five-win season in 2015 despite a home-run total somewhere below 20.

On the topic of park effects, offseason acquisition Nelson Cruz moves from a home field that inflates right-handed homers by roughly 8% to one that suppresses them by about 6%. That move plus age plus mere regression conspire to produce a forecast of 29 home runs for Cruz in 2015 after last season’s total of 40.

Pitchers
Seattle’s prospect triumvirate of Danny Hultzen, James Paxton, and Taijuan Walker have had some difficulty in all graduating to the majors together. Not entirely surprising, that, given the relative fragility of pitchers. The latter two of them, however, appear prepared to join Seattle’s opening-day rotation this year. Of some note, perhaps, is what might appear to be a conservative projection (113.0 IP, 1.2 WAR) for Paxton — especially in light of how he produced roughly the same WAR figure last year in 40 fewer innings. ZiPS considers not only that 2014 season, however, but also those 2012 and -13 ones in which he was barely recording 2:1 strikeout-to-walk ratios against Triple-A competition.

Within the bullpen, it appears as though Fernando Rodney will once again handle closer duties. According to ZiPS, however, the most effective reliever on a per-inning basis is likely to be Danny Farquhar. His projected 77 ERA- — that is, park- and league-adjusted ERA relative to league average — is the second-best figure on the club after Felix Hernandez’s 70 ERA- mark.

Bench/Prospects
While Brad Miller (555 PA, 2.3 WAR) appears likely to begin the season as the club’s starting shortstop, Chris Taylor (501 PA, 2.3 WAR) is almost a carbon copy in terms of win-production according to ZiPS. Recently signed career minor-leaguer Shawn O’Malley (421 PA, 0.9 WAR) apparently also has some value at short, should the previous two lose time to injury or ineffectiveness. Among pitchers, there’s less depth, with Roenis Elias (139.2 IP, 0.6 WAR) serving as the most immediate insurance for the rotation.

Depth Chart
Below is a rough depth chart for the present incarnation of the Mariners, with rounded projected WAR totals for each player. For caveats regarding WAR values see disclaimer at bottom of post. Click to embiggen image.

Mariners Depth

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site and author’s own haphazard reasoning.

Batters, Counting Stats

Player B Age PO PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS
Robinson Cano L 32 2B 663 80 178 37 2 17 85 7 2
Kyle Seager L 27 3B 658 79 155 31 3 21 88 9 5
Nelson Cruz R 34 RF 612 68 139 27 1 29 83 6 4
Brad Miller L 25 SS 555 72 125 21 5 12 55 8 4
Chris Taylor R 24 SS 501 61 116 21 4 3 38 18 6
Austin Jackson R 28 CF 659 78 145 27 7 9 45 14 6
Mike Zunino R 24 C 491 62 97 19 2 17 58 1 2
Dustin Ackley L 27 LF 598 79 135 27 4 12 62 7 3
Seth Smith L 32 LF 458 54 99 24 2 11 45 2 1
Shawn O’Malley B 27 SS 421 44 84 11 5 3 27 14 4
Tyler Marlette R 22 C 377 41 82 16 1 5 35 7 4
D.J. Peterson R 23 3B 463 56 101 18 0 14 52 4 1
Justin Ruggiano R 33 RF 359 40 77 15 1 11 40 8 5
Logan Morrison L 27 1B 432 49 94 19 2 13 50 3 1
Jesus Sucre R 27 C 252 22 56 8 1 1 18 1 1
John Hicks R 25 C 369 40 74 13 2 4 32 8 4
Jack Marder R 25 2B 304 34 63 10 2 4 25 5 3
Jabari Blash R 25 RF 442 52 86 15 2 13 44 8 6
Ketel Marte B 21 SS 575 61 134 22 4 3 42 19 10
Mike Dowd R 25 C 269 25 56 7 1 2 19 1 1
Patrick Kivlehan R 25 3B 529 57 113 19 3 9 50 8 3
Willie Bloomquist R 37 SS 149 16 39 5 1 1 14 0 1
Jack Reinheimer R 22 SS 512 54 112 15 2 2 34 21 11
Carlos Rivero R 27 3B 484 44 104 19 1 7 39 2 3
Austin Wilson R 23 RF 318 36 66 13 1 8 34 2 3
Nate Tenbrink L 28 3B 253 30 47 9 1 5 22 4 2
Ji-Man Choi L 24 1B 389 46 81 14 2 8 36 1 3
Steven Baron R 24 C 296 24 55 11 1 1 20 5 2
Stefen Romero R 26 RF 458 54 104 19 3 12 51 5 6
James Jones L 26 CF 502 61 110 16 7 4 33 23 7
Jesus Montero R 25 1B 441 45 100 18 1 12 50 0 1
Endy Chavez L 37 RF 335 30 79 12 1 2 23 3 5
Julio Morban L 23 RF 338 35 71 13 3 4 29 3 1
Xavier Nady R 36 LF 259 24 52 9 0 5 22 1 0
Gabriel Guerrero R 21 RF 581 60 131 19 2 10 48 12 6
Leury Bonilla R 30 3B 300 27 58 9 1 1 19 4 5
Jordy Lara R 24 1B 493 51 104 20 2 9 47 2 2
Burt Reynolds R 26 1B 377 34 59 12 2 7 31 9 7

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Batters, Rates and Averages

Player PA BB% K% ISO BABIP AVG OBP SLG wOBA
Robinson Cano 663 8.4% 12.7% .154 .323 .299 .363 .453 .346
Kyle Seager 658 8.1% 17.6% .169 .291 .261 .327 .430 .333
Nelson Cruz 612 7.4% 23.4% .208 .282 .250 .309 .458 .332
Brad Miller 555 7.7% 21.3% .133 .300 .249 .308 .382 .304
Chris Taylor 501 8.0% 23.0% .084 .336 .258 .323 .342 .300
Austin Jackson 659 8.3% 25.0% .115 .321 .245 .309 .360 .299
Mike Zunino 491 5.7% 29.3% .166 .276 .217 .279 .383 .290
Dustin Ackley 598 8.0% 17.9% .130 .289 .249 .311 .379 .305
Seth Smith 458 10.3% 22.1% .151 .298 .245 .328 .396 .317
Shawn O’Malley 421 6.7% 20.4% .079 .278 .223 .283 .302 .263
Tyler Marlette 377 5.0% 24.4% .093 .297 .231 .273 .324 .267
D.J. Peterson 463 5.4% 27.0% .138 .293 .233 .276 .371 .289
Justin Ruggiano 359 7.8% 28.7% .154 .310 .237 .302 .391 .307
Logan Morrison 432 8.6% 17.8% .159 .269 .242 .313 .401 .314
Jesus Sucre 252 2.8% 16.3% .055 .276 .233 .257 .288 .240
John Hicks 369 4.3% 23.3% .084 .270 .213 .253 .297 .246
Jack Marder 304 4.9% 21.4% .095 .285 .230 .290 .325 .274
Jabari Blash 442 8.6% 36.0% .147 .326 .219 .299 .366 .296
Ketel Marte 575 3.3% 17.2% .071 .292 .246 .270 .317 .257
Mike Dowd 269 3.0% 19.3% .060 .267 .220 .254 .280 .236
Patrick Kivlehan 529 5.3% 28.7% .106 .311 .230 .278 .336 .275
Willie Bloomquist 149 4.0% 16.1% .071 .328 .279 .311 .350 .285
Jack Reinheimer 512 5.3% 19.1% .053 .293 .236 .283 .289 .258
Carlos Rivero 484 5.2% 25.8% .093 .301 .231 .275 .324 .267
Austin Wilson 318 5.7% 25.5% .134 .286 .227 .287 .361 .285
Nate Tenbrink 253 8.3% 34.8% .115 .311 .208 .282 .323 .273
Ji-Man Choi 389 9.0% 19.8% .123 .280 .235 .315 .358 .298
Steven Baron 296 4.1% 28.7% .058 .274 .196 .230 .254 .218
Stefen Romero 458 3.7% 21.4% .143 .285 .242 .280 .385 .289
James Jones 502 5.6% 25.1% .089 .314 .236 .281 .325 .272
Jesus Montero 441 6.1% 21.3% .137 .288 .246 .293 .383 .294
Endy Chavez 335 5.1% 11.9% .066 .288 .258 .297 .324 .265
Julio Morban 338 5.3% 34.9% .099 .344 .225 .270 .324 .263
Xavier Nady 259 5.4% 23.9% .100 .269 .217 .266 .317 .260
Gabriel Guerrero 581 3.8% 31.2% .096 .331 .237 .266 .333 .264
Leury Bonilla 300 5.0% 24.7% .051 .284 .211 .253 .262 .224
Jordy Lara 493 4.9% 24.3% .111 .284 .226 .268 .337 .268
Burt Reynolds 377 4.5% 44.0% .105 .292 .169 .223 .274 .223

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Batters, Assorted Other

Player PA RC/27 OPS+ Def zWAR No.1 Comp
Robinson Cano 663 6.4 134 2 5.3 Charlie Gehringer
Kyle Seager 658 5.1 117 2 4.3 Todd Zeile
Nelson Cruz 612 5.1 118 -1 2.3 Jermaine Dye
Brad Miller 555 4.2 98 -2 2.3 Dick McAuliffe
Chris Taylor 501 4.2 92 2 2.3 Frankie Gustine
Austin Jackson 659 4.0 93 0 2.1 Dan Gladden
Mike Zunino 491 3.6 89 -2 1.8 John Buck
Dustin Ackley 598 4.3 98 5 1.8 Terrence Long
Seth Smith 458 4.6 108 -2 1.1 Bruce Campbell
Shawn O’Malley 421 3.1 69 2 0.9 Zach Sorensen
Tyler Marlette 377 3.1 72 -1 0.7 Tom Pagnozzi
D.J. Peterson 463 3.7 85 -3 0.7 Ty Wigginton
Justin Ruggiano 359 4.1 98 0 0.6 Preston Wilson
Logan Morrison 432 4.5 104 -2 0.5 J.T. Snow
Jesus Sucre 252 2.6 57 5 0.5 Moses Zucker
John Hicks 369 2.6 58 3 0.5 Jose Lobaton
Jack Marder 304 3.3 77 1 0.5 Pat Osborn
Jabari Blash 442 3.7 91 -2 0.2 Denny Gonzalez
Ketel Marte 575 3.1 69 -2 0.2 Alfredo Griffin
Mike Dowd 269 2.4 54 2 0.1 Jose Hernandez
Patrick Kivlehan 529 3.3 76 -4 0.1 Tony Perezchica
Willie Bloomquist 149 3.9 91 -4 0.1 Jose Vizcaino
Jack Reinheimer 512 2.9 66 -3 0.1 Omar Infante
Carlos Rivero 484 3.0 73 -1 0.0 John Hotchkiss
Austin Wilson 318 3.5 86 -1 0.0 Marcus Thames
Nate Tenbrink 253 3.1 74 -2 0.0 Jim Chamblee
Ji-Man Choi 389 3.8 94 -2 -0.1 Mark Sweeney
Steven Baron 296 2.0 40 4 -0.1 Jose Lobaton
Stefen Romero 458 3.7 90 -3 -0.1 Alex Ramirez
James Jones 502 3.4 75 -8 -0.2 Nathan Haynes
Jesus Montero 441 4.0 93 -3 -0.4 Reggie Montgomery
Endy Chavez 335 3.2 79 -2 -0.6 Jim Eisenreich
Julio Morban 338 3.1 71 -1 -0.6 Shawn Jeter
Xavier Nady 259 3.0 68 -1 -0.6 Brian Jordan
Gabriel Guerrero 581 3.1 72 3 -0.6 Mark Smith
Leury Bonilla 300 2.1 49 0 -0.9 Johnnie LeMaster
Jordy Lara 493 3.1 74 -2 -1.3 Julio Zuleta
Burt Reynolds 377 1.9 43 0 -2.3 Tom Skerritt

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Pitchers, Counting Stats

Player T Age G GS IP K BB HR H R ER
Felix Hernandez R 29 32 32 217.3 224 46 15 180 68 64
Hisashi Iwakuma R 34 27 27 170.0 143 29 19 154 67 63
James Paxton L 26 23 22 113.0 91 41 10 107 51 48
Taijuan Walker R 22 24 22 128.7 111 47 14 121 62 58
Danny Farquhar R 28 59 0 70.3 81 25 5 58 25 23
J.A. Happ L 32 25 23 130.3 111 49 16 128 66 62
Roenis Elias L 26 25 25 139.7 114 57 16 137 72 67
Charlie Furbush L 29 65 0 51.7 61 17 5 42 19 18
Fernando Rodney R 38 60 0 58.0 65 27 4 49 22 21
Carson Smith R 25 51 0 56.3 52 21 4 50 22 21
Tom Wilhelmsen R 31 61 0 70.3 67 33 6 58 29 27
Mike Kickham L 26 29 25 140.7 117 64 14 141 74 69
Danny Hultzen L 25 13 13 62.0 53 36 5 58 31 29
Tyler Olson L 25 23 20 110.3 73 33 12 116 58 54
Dominic Leone R 23 56 0 66.0 63 25 6 59 28 26
Chris Young R 36 23 22 122.7 81 45 17 123 65 61
Sam Gaviglio R 25 20 19 107.0 77 39 12 113 57 53
Yoervis Medina R 26 69 0 65.3 67 33 5 56 28 26
Erasmo Ramirez R 25 28 24 140.3 99 44 18 147 76 71
Mayckol Guaipe R 24 42 0 57.3 48 11 7 56 26 24
Todd Coffey R 34 30 0 29.3 23 12 3 29 14 13
Jordan Pries R 25 22 21 115.7 76 42 14 122 65 61
David Rollins L 25 26 17 94.0 72 42 12 97 54 50
Joe Beimel L 38 40 0 34.0 22 14 4 35 18 17
Mike MacDougal R 38 19 0 22.0 17 14 2 22 13 12
Mark Lowe R 32 42 0 45.0 40 21 6 44 24 22
Lucas Luetge L 28 57 0 62.7 54 30 7 60 33 31
Anthony Fernandez L 25 16 16 84.3 51 37 12 94 55 51
Zach Miner R 33 27 5 57.0 30 29 8 65 37 35
Stephen Landazuri R 23 22 22 105.0 77 43 18 112 66 62
Forrest Snow R 26 29 11 82.3 60 43 12 88 52 49
Edgar Olmos L 25 48 0 64.0 45 36 8 67 39 36
Victor Sanchez R 20 22 22 117.0 71 32 20 132 75 70
Justin Germano R 32 24 22 137.3 75 32 24 162 89 83
Andrew Carraway R 28 26 23 121.7 62 45 18 141 80 75
Chance Ruffin R 26 34 9 80.0 49 36 13 91 56 52
Tyler Pike L 21 25 25 99.3 67 80 15 107 74 69

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Pitchers, Rates and Averages

Player IP TBF K% BB% BABIP ERA FIP ERA- FIP-
Felix Hernandez 217.3 878 25.5% 5.2% .281 2.65 2.70 70 71
Hisashi Iwakuma 170.0 693 20.6% 4.2% .270 3.34 3.43 88 90
James Paxton 113.0 487 18.7% 8.4% .285 3.82 3.87 100 102
Taijuan Walker 128.7 554 20.0% 8.5% .285 4.06 4.09 107 107
Danny Farquhar 70.3 294 27.6% 8.5% .295 2.94 2.89 77 76
J.A. Happ 130.3 568 19.5% 8.6% .287 4.28 4.23 112 111
Roenis Elias 139.7 613 18.6% 9.3% .290 4.32 4.40 113 115
Charlie Furbush 51.7 214 28.5% 7.9% .289 3.14 3.11 82 82
Fernando Rodney 58.0 250 26.0% 10.8% .296 3.26 3.17 86 83
Carson Smith 56.3 240 21.7% 8.8% .288 3.36 3.47 88 91
Tom Wilhelmsen 70.3 302 22.2% 10.9% .268 3.45 3.65 91 96
Mike Kickham 140.7 627 18.7% 10.2% .299 4.41 4.29 116 112
Danny Hultzen 62.0 280 18.9% 12.9% .291 4.21 4.44 110 116
Tyler Olson 110.3 480 15.2% 6.9% .292 4.40 4.32 115 113
Dominic Leone 66.0 282 22.3% 8.9% .286 3.55 3.62 93 95
Chris Young 122.7 536 15.1% 8.4% .272 4.48 4.75 118 125
Sam Gaviglio 107.0 473 16.3% 8.2% .298 4.46 4.42 117 116
Yoervis Medina 65.3 285 23.5% 11.6% .292 3.58 3.62 94 95
Erasmo Ramirez 140.3 612 16.2% 7.2% .291 4.55 4.51 119 118
Mayckol Guaipe 57.3 239 20.1% 4.6% .288 3.77 3.81 99 100
Todd Coffey 29.3 129 17.8% 9.3% .292 3.99 4.26 105 112
Jordan Pries 115.7 511 14.9% 8.2% .289 4.75 4.67 125 122
David Rollins 94.0 421 17.1% 10.0% .293 4.79 4.79 126 126
Joe Beimel 34.0 151 14.6% 9.3% .282 4.50 4.46 118 117
Mike MacDougal 22.0 102 16.7% 13.7% .299 4.91 4.85 129 127
Mark Lowe 45.0 200 20.0% 10.5% .288 4.40 4.39 115 115
Lucas Luetge 62.7 278 19.4% 10.8% .288 4.45 4.33 117 114
Anthony Fernandez 84.3 384 13.3% 9.6% .294 5.44 5.30 143 139
Zach Miner 57.0 265 11.3% 10.9% .294 5.53 5.62 145 147
Stephen Landazuri 105.0 470 16.4% 9.1% .288 5.31 5.33 139 140
Forrest Snow 82.3 378 15.9% 11.4% .295 5.36 5.32 141 139
Edgar Olmos 64.0 295 15.3% 12.2% .292 5.06 5.21 133 137
Victor Sanchez 117.0 515 13.8% 6.2% .291 5.38 5.17 141 136
Justin Germano 137.3 606 12.4% 5.3% .296 5.44 5.22 143 137
Andrew Carraway 121.7 551 11.3% 8.2% .293 5.55 5.35 146 140
Chance Ruffin 80.0 367 13.4% 9.8% .297 5.85 5.63 153 148
Tyler Pike 99.3 485 13.8% 16.5% .291 6.25 6.41 164 168

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Pitchers, Assorted Other

Player IP K/9 BB/9 HR/9 ERA+ zWAR No. 1 Comp
Felix Hernandez 217.3 9.28 1.91 0.62 137 5.6 Mike Mussina
Hisashi Iwakuma 170.0 7.57 1.54 1.01 109 2.8 Scott Sanderson
James Paxton 113.0 7.25 3.27 0.80 95 1.2 Brandon Claussen
Taijuan Walker 128.7 7.76 3.29 0.98 89 0.9 Freddy Garcia
Danny Farquhar 70.3 10.37 3.20 0.64 123 0.8 Bobby Castillo
J.A. Happ 130.3 7.67 3.38 1.11 85 0.6 Bob McClure
Roenis Elias 139.7 7.34 3.67 1.03 84 0.6 Ed Vosberg
Charlie Furbush 51.7 10.62 2.96 0.87 115 0.5 George Sherrill
Fernando Rodney 58.0 10.09 4.19 0.62 111 0.4 Rudy Seanez
Carson Smith 56.3 8.31 3.36 0.64 108 0.4 Wayne Nix
Tom Wilhelmsen 70.3 8.58 4.22 0.77 105 0.4 Marc Wilkins
Mike Kickham 140.7 7.48 4.09 0.90 82 0.3 Lance Caraccioli
Danny Hultzen 62.0 7.69 5.23 0.73 86 0.3 Matt Miller
Tyler Olson 110.3 5.96 2.69 0.98 82 0.3 Hilly Hathaway
Dominic Leone 66.0 8.59 3.41 0.82 102 0.3 Josh Kinney
Chris Young 122.7 5.94 3.30 1.25 81 0.2 Steve Trachsel
Sam Gaviglio 107.0 6.48 3.28 1.01 81 0.2 Brian Allard
Yoervis Medina 65.3 9.23 4.55 0.69 101 0.2 Mark Acre
Erasmo Ramirez 140.3 6.35 2.82 1.15 79 0.1 David Pauley
Mayckol Guaipe 57.3 7.54 1.73 1.10 96 0.1 Dan Giese
Todd Coffey 29.3 7.06 3.69 0.92 91 -0.1 Milo Candini
Jordan Pries 115.7 5.91 3.27 1.09 76 -0.2 Zach McClellan
David Rollins 94.0 6.89 4.02 1.15 76 -0.3 Mike Matthews
Joe Beimel 34.0 5.82 3.71 1.06 80 -0.3 Boom-Boom Beck
Mike MacDougal 22.0 6.95 5.73 0.82 74 -0.3 Pete Appleton
Mark Lowe 45.0 8.00 4.20 1.20 82 -0.3 Jason Bullard
Lucas Luetge 62.7 7.75 4.31 1.00 81 -0.5 Carl Schutz
Anthony Fernandez 84.3 5.44 3.95 1.28 66 -0.9 Tommy Phelps
Zach Miner 57.0 4.74 4.58 1.26 65 -0.9 Mike Sullivan
Stephen Landazuri 105.0 6.60 3.69 1.54 68 -0.9 Steve Rogers
Forrest Snow 82.3 6.56 4.70 1.31 68 -1.0 Paul Morse
Edgar Olmos 64.0 6.33 5.06 1.13 71 -1.0 Jason Hill
Victor Sanchez 117.0 5.46 2.46 1.54 67 -1.2 Robert Averette
Justin Germano 137.3 4.92 2.10 1.57 67 -1.5 Dave Johnson
Andrew Carraway 121.7 4.59 3.33 1.33 65 -1.5 Kip Bouknight
Chance Ruffin 80.0 5.51 4.05 1.46 62 -1.5 Kevin Vent
Tyler Pike 99.3 6.07 7.25 1.36 58 -2.1 Sebern Wright

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Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2014. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.

Players are listed with their most recent teams unless Dan has made a mistake. This is very possible as a lot of minor-league signings are generally unreported in the offseason.

ZiPS is projecting based on the AL having a 3.93 ERA and the NL having a 3.75 ERA.

Players that are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information and a computer isn’t what should be projecting the injury status of, for example, a pitcher with Tommy John surgery.

Regarding ERA+ vs. ERA- (and FIP+ vs. FIP-) and the differences therein: as Patriot notes here, they are not simply mirror images of each other. Writes Patriot: “ERA+ does not tell you that a pitcher’s ERA was X% less or more than the league’s ERA. It tells you that the league’s ERA was X% less or more than the pitcher’s ERA.”

Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in full release of ZiPS. Finally, Szymborski will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on depth chart to produce projected team WAR.





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Shane Tourtellotte
9 years ago

(looks at bottom of batter comps)

(blinks)

Tell me that was a joke. I’m not going crazy, right? Right?

Los
9 years ago

He does look a lot like Burt. I love these random jokes in the ZiPS projections.