2019 ZiPS Projections – Chicago White Sox
After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for more than half a decade. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the Chicago White Sox.
Batters
If only an outfielder was available in the free agent market, one who could bring a significant boost to a contending team!
Shoot, I’m self-plagiarizing. Let me try again.
If only an outfielder was available in the free agent market, one who could bring nearly as much of a boost to a rebuilding team as Bryce Harper could!
The White Sox have all but held a press conference to proclaim that they’re out on Harper and it’s a shame, really. While I like Manny Machado slightly better on a pure value basis (the loss of whom not doubt still stings on the south side), Harper’s upside is probably less “known” than Machado’s, so he would be an interesting play for a rebuilding team. The White Sox have been unable to develop their own Bryce Harper, because, well, it’s really hard to develop Bryce Harpers. Harper would not have gotten this team to the playoffs in 2019 without some very unexpected things happening, but you can say much the same about Machado. Plus, the White Sox have exactly one interesting outfielder on the roster at the moment, whereas Yoan Moncada, Yolmer Sanchez, and Tim Anderson could all conceivably contribute to a postseason contender.
Don’t be alarmed by the “1.9” next to Jimenez’ name on the depth chart. The reason that number is so low is that ZiPS has questions about Jimenez’s outfield defense, and the depth chart is only projecting Jimenez for 455 plate appearances. More boxes to check and all that! ZiPS has no questions about Jimenez’s ability to rake, however. A .289/.338/.525 projected line with a 133 OPS+ and 28 home runs would get Eloy Rookie of the Year votes even if he played defense like Todd Hundley in an Ambien daze.
The projected upside for Moncada goes a bit lower every year, with the computer as frustrated with his inconsistent attempts at improving his plate discipline as the White Sox likely are. Just as disappointing, Moncada was a roughly league-average player in 2018, but it took a .344 BABIP for him to maintain a mere .235 BA. If he can’t bring that number up, he needs 10-15 home runs or a shockingly good glove at third to move him out of the “frustratingly average” category. Average players have value, but the White Sox were hoping for more.
I’m avoiding talking about the rest of the outfield because, well, you can guess why.
Pitchers
It’s hard to overestimate the hit the White Sox took from the loss of Michael Kopech, both in terms of the injury itself and the lost development time for a pitcher who still needs some refinement. I briefly considered excluding the Kopech projection out of mercy, but I didn’t want to overturn the precedent I’ve set of showing projections for pitchers missing the season due to injury. Kopech has the most bifurcated ZiPS projections I can remember; instead of some variant of a pretty little curve over some projected midpoint, it was bimodal.
In layman’s terms, ZiPS thought there was a better chance that Kopech would be a star or a scrub than simply a league-average pitcher. In the last year, ZiPS has been leaning more to the good side than the bad. Kopech had progressed to the point where, in terms of his rest-of-career value, ZiPS saw him as the No. 14 pitcher in the majors. The only other rookie-eligible pitcher in the top 50 is Mike Soroka.
As usual, ZiPS is high on Carlos Rodon and probably won’t be dissuaded until he has a whole healthy season and struggles. ZiPS is much less confident when it comes to Reynaldo Lopez, with the system not seeing enough historical evidence, nor anything specific to Lopez, to convince it that him exceeding his FIP by three-quarters of a run is his natural level of ability. That’s not to say that the White Sox should give up on him — you should give pitchers like this every chance to prove the numbers wrong — but it is a reason to mute the excitement a bit.
Bench and Prospects
I’ve already talked a lot about Jimenez and Kopech, given how significant Jimenez will be to the 2019 team and Kopech would have been prior to his injury. While the center field and left field projections are almost shockingly bleak, ZiPS does think that Luis Alexander Basabe is the best option in center in the system right now. ZiPS projects Nick Madrigal as a high-floor second baseman, and through all the injuries, still sees Luis Robert peaking with an OPS+ around 100. Both Dane Dunning and Dylan Cease have passed the 90 ERA+ mark in the projections; ZiPS thinks the former is the second-best pitcher in the rotation right now.
I talked about it in Chicago’s Elegy, but 2018 was a season that would try any team’s patience. With so many injuries and setbacks, the White Sox aren’t that much closer to knowing what their future core will look like than they were a year ago. It’s easy to feel very down on the team right now, given the projections and the news that neither Harper or Machado will be paid a guaranteed rate by the Sox over the next decade. But there remains a lot of talent in the system that could turn the team around very quickly. It’s just not likely to be in 2019.
One pedantic note for 2019: for the WAR graphic, I’m using FanGraphs’ Depth Charts playing time, not the playing time ZiPS spits out, so there will be occasional differences in WAR totals.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site.
| Player | B | Age | PO | G | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Eloy Jimenez | R | 22 | LF | 130 | 505 | 67 | 146 | 27 | 4 | 28 | 71 | 36 | 111 | 0 | 2 |
| Yoan Moncada | B | 24 | 2B | 145 | 561 | 76 | 131 | 24 | 5 | 21 | 61 | 70 | 208 | 19 | 8 |
| Jose Abreu | R | 32 | 1B | 140 | 555 | 70 | 152 | 33 | 2 | 23 | 87 | 36 | 119 | 2 | 0 |
| Yolmer Sanchez | B | 27 | 3B | 154 | 557 | 63 | 136 | 28 | 7 | 11 | 58 | 39 | 133 | 11 | 6 |
| Tim Anderson | R | 26 | SS | 154 | 611 | 78 | 154 | 27 | 5 | 18 | 63 | 24 | 167 | 25 | 6 |
| Yonder Alonso | L | 32 | 1B | 134 | 444 | 61 | 109 | 18 | 0 | 23 | 66 | 57 | 122 | 1 | 0 |
| Danny Mendick | R | 25 | SS | 128 | 454 | 52 | 100 | 20 | 1 | 11 | 44 | 40 | 114 | 13 | 7 |
| Jose Rondon | R | 25 | SS | 117 | 434 | 49 | 102 | 19 | 3 | 13 | 49 | 23 | 119 | 8 | 6 |
| Luis Alexander Basabe | B | 22 | CF | 122 | 456 | 52 | 99 | 15 | 5 | 14 | 44 | 46 | 170 | 12 | 12 |
| Welington Castillo | R | 32 | C | 88 | 305 | 31 | 72 | 12 | 0 | 12 | 38 | 20 | 93 | 1 | 0 |
| Leury Garcia | B | 28 | LF | 94 | 316 | 35 | 82 | 12 | 3 | 6 | 35 | 14 | 83 | 13 | 4 |
| James McCann | R | 29 | C | 114 | 394 | 34 | 91 | 14 | 1 | 10 | 44 | 26 | 115 | 0 | 2 |
| Brandon Guyer | R | 33 | RF | 100 | 240 | 31 | 54 | 12 | 1 | 7 | 26 | 18 | 59 | 2 | 1 |
| Nick Madrigal | R | 22 | 2B | 99 | 364 | 40 | 93 | 16 | 2 | 3 | 23 | 17 | 38 | 12 | 16 |
| Luis Robert | R | 21 | CF | 75 | 267 | 27 | 63 | 11 | 1 | 5 | 18 | 22 | 100 | 17 | 8 |
| Zack Collins | L | 24 | C | 112 | 398 | 52 | 70 | 15 | 1 | 14 | 45 | 74 | 191 | 2 | 1 |
| Laz Rivera | R | 24 | SS | 117 | 472 | 52 | 110 | 20 | 2 | 7 | 40 | 13 | 111 | 11 | 8 |
| Johnny Giavotella | R | 31 | 2B | 88 | 314 | 36 | 80 | 16 | 2 | 4 | 28 | 23 | 49 | 3 | 2 |
| Nick Delmonico | L | 26 | LF | 94 | 323 | 41 | 73 | 17 | 2 | 12 | 38 | 33 | 99 | 2 | 1 |
| Jon Jay | L | 34 | RF | 131 | 433 | 58 | 108 | 16 | 3 | 3 | 28 | 29 | 91 | 3 | 2 |
| Matt Skole | L | 29 | 1B | 118 | 420 | 52 | 88 | 19 | 1 | 16 | 48 | 51 | 145 | 2 | 1 |
| Patrick Leonard | R | 26 | 3B | 123 | 455 | 49 | 97 | 23 | 1 | 10 | 44 | 35 | 168 | 5 | 2 |
| D.J. Peterson | R | 27 | 3B | 118 | 449 | 49 | 100 | 20 | 1 | 17 | 52 | 26 | 143 | 2 | 1 |
| Seby Zavala | R | 25 | C | 101 | 382 | 42 | 81 | 17 | 1 | 12 | 43 | 27 | 139 | 1 | 2 |
| Daniel Palka | L | 27 | LF | 126 | 469 | 62 | 104 | 17 | 2 | 27 | 69 | 38 | 180 | 5 | 4 |
| Luis Gonzalez | L | 23 | CF | 113 | 469 | 52 | 102 | 23 | 4 | 10 | 45 | 38 | 131 | 6 | 7 |
| Jake Elmore | R | 32 | 2B | 106 | 324 | 34 | 75 | 9 | 1 | 1 | 21 | 40 | 65 | 8 | 5 |
| Alex Presley | L | 33 | LF | 83 | 298 | 30 | 68 | 9 | 2 | 4 | 22 | 20 | 73 | 3 | 3 |
| Ryan Brett | R | 27 | CF | 71 | 266 | 27 | 58 | 11 | 1 | 5 | 23 | 9 | 78 | 6 | 2 |
| Alfredo Gonzalez | R | 26 | C | 72 | 243 | 23 | 48 | 6 | 0 | 3 | 16 | 20 | 79 | 2 | 1 |
| Adam Engel | R | 27 | CF | 135 | 466 | 52 | 94 | 18 | 4 | 9 | 36 | 30 | 159 | 20 | 8 |
| Ryan Cordell | R | 27 | CF | 84 | 320 | 34 | 64 | 11 | 3 | 9 | 32 | 19 | 110 | 8 | 3 |
| Gerson Montilla | R | 29 | 3B | 89 | 330 | 34 | 72 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 34 | 20 | 85 | 3 | 3 |
| Chris Johnson | R | 34 | 3B | 70 | 203 | 18 | 45 | 8 | 0 | 5 | 20 | 10 | 77 | 1 | 0 |
| Charlie Tilson | L | 26 | CF | 103 | 385 | 37 | 90 | 11 | 4 | 2 | 28 | 25 | 81 | 13 | 6 |
| Jacob May | B | 27 | CF | 97 | 372 | 34 | 83 | 13 | 2 | 2 | 24 | 20 | 107 | 17 | 10 |
| Ryan Goins | L | 31 | 2B | 107 | 309 | 30 | 66 | 13 | 1 | 5 | 29 | 23 | 85 | 3 | 2 |
| Casey Gillaspie | B | 26 | 1B | 105 | 386 | 44 | 80 | 17 | 1 | 12 | 40 | 38 | 133 | 1 | 1 |
| Todd Cunningham | B | 30 | RF | 93 | 301 | 37 | 69 | 13 | 2 | 3 | 24 | 29 | 60 | 9 | 5 |
| Gavin Sheets | L | 23 | 1B | 124 | 480 | 55 | 111 | 19 | 1 | 7 | 49 | 43 | 109 | 1 | 0 |
| Micker Adolfo | R | 22 | RF | 102 | 391 | 46 | 81 | 17 | 2 | 13 | 46 | 28 | 161 | 2 | 1 |
| Bryant Flete | B | 26 | 2B | 104 | 358 | 36 | 72 | 12 | 2 | 5 | 25 | 29 | 114 | 4 | 5 |
| Blake Rutherford | L | 22 | RF | 118 | 471 | 48 | 106 | 20 | 5 | 6 | 44 | 29 | 119 | 10 | 8 |
| Joel Booker | R | 25 | LF | 114 | 455 | 47 | 95 | 15 | 1 | 5 | 30 | 28 | 149 | 17 | 11 |
| Mitch Roman | R | 24 | 2B | 118 | 437 | 39 | 86 | 11 | 2 | 3 | 27 | 26 | 147 | 12 | 5 |
| Keon Barnum | L | 26 | 1B | 97 | 352 | 34 | 63 | 10 | 1 | 14 | 40 | 21 | 170 | 0 | 0 |
| Trey Michalczewski | B | 24 | 2B | 128 | 468 | 44 | 90 | 18 | 4 | 9 | 44 | 31 | 184 | 4 | 2 |
| Mason Robbins | L | 26 | RF | 107 | 417 | 36 | 96 | 12 | 3 | 4 | 30 | 11 | 93 | 3 | 2 |
| Player | PA | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS+ | ISO | BABIP | RC/27 | Def | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Eloy Jimenez | 547 | .289 | .338 | .525 | 133 | .236 | .322 | 6.7 | -7 | 2.3 | Greg Luzinski |
| Yoan Moncada | 639 | .234 | .320 | .406 | 99 | .173 | .331 | 4.6 | -2 | 2.0 | Rickie Weeks |
| Jose Abreu | 609 | .274 | .330 | .465 | 116 | .191 | .312 | 5.7 | -3 | 1.7 | Juan Gonzalez |
| Yolmer Sanchez | 609 | .244 | .299 | .379 | 86 | .135 | .303 | 4.0 | 6 | 1.4 | Robb Quinlan |
| Tim Anderson | 644 | .252 | .284 | .401 | 86 | .149 | .319 | 4.3 | -1 | 1.4 | Shawon Dunston |
| Yonder Alonso | 505 | .245 | .333 | .441 | 111 | .196 | .288 | 5.3 | -3 | 1.2 | Paul Sorrento |
| Danny Mendick | 506 | .220 | .292 | .341 | 74 | .121 | .271 | 3.4 | 5 | 0.9 | Angel Gonzalez |
| Jose Rondon | 465 | .235 | .275 | .382 | 79 | .147 | .295 | 3.6 | 4 | 0.9 | Jose Castro |
| Luis Alexander Basabe | 513 | .217 | .293 | .364 | 80 | .147 | .313 | 3.4 | 4 | 0.7 | Brad Snyder |
| Welington Castillo | 330 | .236 | .288 | .393 | 86 | .157 | .300 | 4.0 | -2 | 0.6 | Terry Kennedy |
| Leury Garcia | 340 | .259 | .298 | .373 | 84 | .114 | .335 | 4.2 | 5 | 0.6 | Mariano Duncan |
| James McCann | 427 | .231 | .284 | .348 | 73 | .117 | .301 | 3.4 | 1 | 0.4 | Mike DiFelice |
| Brandon Guyer | 277 | .225 | .322 | .371 | 91 | .146 | .270 | 4.2 | 0 | 0.4 | Mike Devereaux |
| Nick Madrigal | 399 | .255 | .303 | .335 | 76 | .080 | .279 | 3.1 | 6 | 0.3 | Alberto Callaspo |
| Luis Robert | 299 | .236 | .312 | .341 | 81 | .105 | .358 | 3.8 | -1 | 0.3 | Jimmy Wynn |
| Zack Collins | 478 | .176 | .305 | .324 | 74 | .148 | .290 | 3.2 | -5 | 0.2 | Brian Deak |
| Laz Rivera | 512 | .233 | .277 | .328 | 66 | .095 | .291 | 3.1 | 4 | 0.1 | Diory Hernandez |
| Johnny Giavotella | 344 | .255 | .304 | .357 | 82 | .102 | .291 | 3.9 | -2 | 0.1 | Dave Berg |
| Nick Delmonico | 363 | .226 | .304 | .402 | 93 | .176 | .288 | 4.3 | -3 | 0.0 | Danny Putnam |
| Jon Jay | 482 | .249 | .316 | .321 | 77 | .072 | .310 | 3.6 | 4 | 0.0 | Dick Porter |
| Matt Skole | 476 | .210 | .298 | .374 | 84 | .164 | .278 | 3.8 | 1 | 0.0 | Steve Neal |
| Patrick Leonard | 498 | .213 | .275 | .334 | 67 | .121 | .314 | 3.2 | 3 | -0.1 | Sean Mcnally |
| D.J. Peterson | 480 | .223 | .269 | .385 | 78 | .163 | .287 | 3.6 | -2 | -0.1 | Josh Klimek |
| Seby Zavala | 417 | .212 | .269 | .356 | 71 | .144 | .299 | 3.2 | -4 | -0.2 | Bill Hayes |
| Daniel Palka | 512 | .222 | .281 | .439 | 94 | .217 | .294 | 4.2 | -6 | -0.2 | Doug DeVore |
| Luis Gonzalez | 515 | .217 | .277 | .348 | 71 | .130 | .280 | 3.1 | 1 | -0.3 | Eric Verbryke |
| Jake Elmore | 372 | .231 | .322 | .275 | 68 | .043 | .287 | 3.0 | -2 | -0.3 | Jose Flores |
| Alex Presley | 323 | .228 | .280 | .312 | 64 | .084 | .290 | 3.0 | 5 | -0.4 | Armando Rios |
| Ryan Brett | 281 | .218 | .250 | .323 | 57 | .105 | .290 | 2.9 | 2 | -0.4 | Kyle Todd |
| Alfredo Gonzalez | 270 | .198 | .265 | .259 | 46 | .062 | .280 | 2.3 | 2 | -0.4 | Brad Erdman |
| Adam Engel | 512 | .202 | .261 | .315 | 58 | .114 | .285 | 2.9 | 3 | -0.5 | Fletcher Bates |
| Ryan Cordell | 345 | .200 | .246 | .338 | 59 | .138 | .274 | 2.9 | 1 | -0.5 | Michael Mooney |
| Gerson Montilla | 357 | .218 | .264 | .339 | 65 | .121 | .264 | 3.0 | 0 | -0.6 | Carlo Colombino |
| Chris Johnson | 215 | .222 | .260 | .335 | 63 | .113 | .331 | 3.1 | -3 | -0.6 | Wes Helms |
| Charlie Tilson | 418 | .234 | .283 | .299 | 61 | .065 | .291 | 3.0 | 0 | -0.6 | Clay Timpner |
| Jacob May | 403 | .223 | .268 | .285 | 53 | .062 | .308 | 2.6 | 4 | -0.7 | Tony Triplett |
| Ryan Goins | 339 | .214 | .266 | .311 | 59 | .097 | .279 | 2.8 | -1 | -0.8 | Kevin Baez |
| Casey Gillaspie | 428 | .207 | .278 | .350 | 72 | .142 | .282 | 3.3 | 0 | -0.8 | Steve Carver |
| Todd Cunningham | 347 | .229 | .313 | .316 | 75 | .086 | .277 | 3.4 | -5 | -0.8 | Doug Dascenzo |
| Gavin Sheets | 533 | .231 | .297 | .319 | 70 | .088 | .286 | 3.3 | 1 | -0.9 | Bryan Hansen |
| Micker Adolfo | 429 | .207 | .273 | .361 | 73 | .153 | .313 | 3.3 | -5 | -1.1 | Edgardo Baez |
| Bryant Flete | 396 | .201 | .272 | .288 | 55 | .087 | .280 | 2.5 | -2 | -1.2 | Jason Camilli |
| Blake Rutherford | 504 | .225 | .272 | .327 | 64 | .102 | .289 | 3.0 | 1 | -1.4 | Derrick May |
| Joel Booker | 501 | .209 | .270 | .279 | 52 | .070 | .299 | 2.5 | 3 | -1.8 | Juan Piniella |
| Mitch Roman | 475 | .197 | .246 | .252 | 38 | .055 | .289 | 2.1 | 2 | -1.8 | Gilberto Mejia |
| Keon Barnum | 378 | .179 | .228 | .332 | 52 | .153 | .292 | 2.5 | -2 | -1.9 | Bryon Gainey |
| Trey Michalczewski | 512 | .192 | .249 | .306 | 52 | .113 | .295 | 2.5 | -6 | -2.0 | Chris Shaddy |
| Mason Robbins | 432 | .230 | .248 | .302 | 51 | .072 | .288 | 2.6 | -3 | -2.3 | Manny Jimenez |
| Player | T | Age | W | L | ERA | G | GS | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Michael Kopech | R | 23 | 9 | 8 | 3.93 | 28 | 28 | 139.7 | 123 | 61 | 14 | 73 | 157 |
| Carlos Rodon | L | 26 | 8 | 7 | 4.15 | 23 | 23 | 130.0 | 126 | 60 | 16 | 56 | 114 |
| Dane Dunning | R | 24 | 6 | 6 | 4.35 | 19 | 19 | 101.3 | 102 | 49 | 13 | 39 | 85 |
| Ivan Nova | R | 32 | 8 | 9 | 4.63 | 24 | 24 | 136.0 | 150 | 70 | 24 | 30 | 100 |
| Reynaldo Lopez | R | 25 | 8 | 9 | 4.65 | 31 | 30 | 170.3 | 172 | 88 | 26 | 69 | 140 |
| Dylan Cease | R | 23 | 7 | 8 | 4.50 | 22 | 22 | 112.0 | 106 | 56 | 14 | 61 | 112 |
| Alex Colome | R | 30 | 6 | 4 | 3.46 | 67 | 0 | 65.0 | 60 | 25 | 6 | 21 | 63 |
| Jordan Guerrero | L | 25 | 8 | 10 | 4.92 | 25 | 25 | 126.3 | 140 | 69 | 17 | 54 | 93 |
| Jace Fry | L | 25 | 3 | 2 | 3.42 | 59 | 0 | 55.3 | 45 | 21 | 3 | 28 | 65 |
| Tanner Banks | L | 27 | 8 | 10 | 4.95 | 23 | 23 | 127.3 | 149 | 70 | 18 | 37 | 70 |
| Miguel Gonzalez | R | 35 | 6 | 8 | 4.91 | 21 | 21 | 113.7 | 126 | 62 | 17 | 37 | 73 |
| Bernardo Flores | L | 23 | 7 | 9 | 4.84 | 25 | 25 | 135.7 | 156 | 73 | 19 | 40 | 78 |
| Manny Banuelos | L | 28 | 6 | 7 | 4.66 | 29 | 16 | 94.7 | 93 | 49 | 13 | 51 | 92 |
| Lucas Giolito | R | 24 | 9 | 12 | 5.03 | 30 | 30 | 159.3 | 161 | 89 | 22 | 77 | 119 |
| Kodi Medeiros | L | 23 | 6 | 8 | 4.94 | 26 | 21 | 124.0 | 128 | 68 | 15 | 73 | 105 |
| Donn Roach | R | 29 | 6 | 8 | 4.92 | 21 | 19 | 113.3 | 130 | 62 | 15 | 36 | 60 |
| Juan Minaya | R | 28 | 4 | 4 | 4.02 | 63 | 0 | 65.0 | 59 | 29 | 6 | 33 | 67 |
| Kelvin Herrera | R | 29 | 3 | 3 | 3.93 | 55 | 0 | 50.3 | 49 | 22 | 7 | 15 | 49 |
| Jimmy Lambert | R | 24 | 7 | 9 | 4.98 | 20 | 20 | 103.0 | 112 | 57 | 16 | 39 | 77 |
| Chris Volstad | R | 32 | 5 | 7 | 4.84 | 28 | 14 | 100.3 | 116 | 54 | 13 | 27 | 53 |
| Aaron Bummer | L | 25 | 4 | 3 | 4.08 | 67 | 0 | 64.0 | 62 | 29 | 6 | 29 | 57 |
| Evan Marshall | R | 29 | 1 | 1 | 4.10 | 34 | 1 | 37.3 | 40 | 17 | 4 | 13 | 29 |
| Ian Hamilton | R | 24 | 5 | 4 | 4.18 | 53 | 0 | 60.3 | 58 | 28 | 8 | 21 | 55 |
| Dylan Covey | R | 27 | 8 | 11 | 5.26 | 30 | 25 | 133.3 | 146 | 78 | 19 | 61 | 91 |
| Nate Jones | R | 33 | 2 | 2 | 3.93 | 37 | 0 | 34.3 | 31 | 15 | 5 | 13 | 37 |
| Matt Tomshaw | L | 30 | 7 | 10 | 5.18 | 25 | 24 | 132.0 | 159 | 76 | 22 | 34 | 79 |
| Randall Delgado | R | 29 | 3 | 3 | 4.30 | 43 | 1 | 52.3 | 52 | 25 | 7 | 22 | 45 |
| Matt Foster | R | 24 | 3 | 4 | 4.37 | 46 | 0 | 55.7 | 55 | 27 | 7 | 26 | 52 |
| Jordan Stephens | R | 26 | 7 | 9 | 5.40 | 25 | 25 | 125.0 | 136 | 75 | 22 | 55 | 100 |
| Colton Turner | L | 28 | 4 | 5 | 4.63 | 37 | 2 | 56.3 | 57 | 29 | 7 | 27 | 47 |
| Zack Burdi | R | 24 | 2 | 2 | 4.38 | 22 | 0 | 24.7 | 21 | 12 | 3 | 16 | 28 |
| T.J. House | L | 29 | 5 | 7 | 5.45 | 19 | 15 | 77.7 | 87 | 47 | 9 | 45 | 50 |
| James Shields | R | 37 | 7 | 11 | 5.31 | 27 | 27 | 154.3 | 164 | 91 | 30 | 64 | 117 |
| Bruce Rondon | R | 28 | 3 | 3 | 4.60 | 47 | 0 | 43.0 | 38 | 22 | 4 | 31 | 51 |
| Robbie Ross Jr. | L | 30 | 1 | 1 | 4.66 | 35 | 0 | 36.7 | 35 | 19 | 3 | 24 | 34 |
| Jacob Lindgren | L | 26 | 0 | 1 | 4.97 | 11 | 0 | 12.7 | 11 | 7 | 2 | 11 | 15 |
| Alec Hansen | R | 24 | 5 | 7 | 5.40 | 19 | 19 | 93.3 | 93 | 56 | 14 | 67 | 87 |
| Caleb Frare | L | 25 | 3 | 4 | 4.79 | 50 | 0 | 56.3 | 49 | 30 | 7 | 42 | 65 |
| Tyler B. Johnson | R | 23 | 4 | 5 | 4.85 | 43 | 0 | 52.0 | 46 | 28 | 8 | 32 | 62 |
| Jose Ruiz | R | 24 | 2 | 2 | 4.82 | 50 | 0 | 56.0 | 55 | 30 | 7 | 35 | 56 |
| Thyago Vieira | R | 25 | 2 | 2 | 5.16 | 39 | 0 | 45.3 | 44 | 26 | 6 | 27 | 41 |
| Zach Thompson | R | 25 | 3 | 4 | 5.12 | 49 | 0 | 65.0 | 67 | 37 | 8 | 40 | 52 |
| Ryan Burr | R | 25 | 3 | 4 | 5.20 | 45 | 0 | 55.3 | 54 | 32 | 7 | 40 | 50 |
| Carson Fulmer | R | 25 | 7 | 11 | 5.68 | 31 | 21 | 107.7 | 116 | 68 | 17 | 69 | 85 |
| Asher Wojciechowski | R | 30 | 5 | 8 | 6.01 | 25 | 17 | 103.3 | 117 | 69 | 26 | 39 | 93 |
| Spencer Adams | R | 23 | 7 | 12 | 6.01 | 27 | 27 | 139.3 | 171 | 93 | 28 | 57 | 76 |
| Player | TBF | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | BABIP | ERA+ | ERA- | FIP | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Michael Kopech | 616 | 10.12 | 4.70 | 0.90 | .301 | 109 | 92 | 3.99 | 2.4 | J.R. Richard |
| Carlos Rodon | 571 | 7.89 | 3.88 | 1.11 | .292 | 103 | 97 | 4.47 | 1.9 | Mickey McDermott |
| Dane Dunning | 444 | 7.55 | 3.46 | 1.15 | .296 | 98 | 102 | 4.47 | 1.3 | Kevin Brown |
| Ivan Nova | 584 | 6.62 | 1.99 | 1.59 | .297 | 92 | 108 | 4.77 | 1.2 | Mickey Weston |
| Reynaldo Lopez | 747 | 7.40 | 3.65 | 1.37 | .290 | 89 | 112 | 4.85 | 1.2 | Aaron Thompson |
| Dylan Cease | 501 | 9.00 | 4.90 | 1.13 | .299 | 92 | 109 | 4.57 | 1.0 | Dick Ruthven |
| Alex Colome | 275 | 8.72 | 2.91 | 0.83 | .297 | 124 | 81 | 3.52 | 1.0 | Jeff Tam |
| Jordan Guerrero | 570 | 6.63 | 3.85 | 1.21 | .308 | 87 | 115 | 4.88 | 0.8 | Jake Chapman |
| Jace Fry | 238 | 10.57 | 4.55 | 0.49 | .300 | 125 | 80 | 3.13 | 0.8 | Brian Snyder |
| Tanner Banks | 565 | 4.95 | 2.62 | 1.27 | .303 | 87 | 116 | 4.95 | 0.7 | Bill Latham |
| Miguel Gonzalez | 500 | 5.78 | 2.93 | 1.35 | .296 | 87 | 115 | 4.92 | 0.7 | Pat Ahearne |
| Bernardo Flores | 600 | 5.17 | 2.65 | 1.26 | .301 | 86 | 117 | 4.88 | 0.7 | Jeff Mutis |
| Manny Banuelos | 426 | 8.75 | 4.85 | 1.24 | .302 | 89 | 112 | 4.77 | 0.6 | Eddie Oropesa |
| Lucas Giolito | 716 | 6.72 | 4.35 | 1.24 | .286 | 82 | 121 | 5.13 | 0.5 | Scott Holman |
| Kodi Medeiros | 571 | 7.62 | 5.30 | 1.09 | .305 | 84 | 119 | 4.96 | 0.5 | Ken Chase |
| Donn Roach | 502 | 4.76 | 2.86 | 1.19 | .299 | 84 | 119 | 4.92 | 0.4 | Don Nottebart |
| Juan Minaya | 287 | 9.28 | 4.57 | 0.83 | .299 | 107 | 94 | 4.00 | 0.4 | Ruddy Lugo |
| Kelvin Herrera | 214 | 8.76 | 2.68 | 1.25 | .298 | 109 | 92 | 4.02 | 0.4 | Antonio Alfonseca |
| Jimmy Lambert | 458 | 6.73 | 3.41 | 1.40 | .300 | 83 | 120 | 4.98 | 0.4 | Jake Joseph |
| Chris Volstad | 441 | 4.75 | 2.42 | 1.17 | .300 | 86 | 117 | 4.73 | 0.4 | Steve Sundra |
| Aaron Bummer | 281 | 8.02 | 4.08 | 0.84 | .301 | 105 | 95 | 4.09 | 0.3 | Pete Cappadona |
| Evan Marshall | 164 | 6.99 | 3.13 | 0.96 | .310 | 101 | 99 | 4.19 | 0.3 | Steve Comer |
| Ian Hamilton | 259 | 8.20 | 3.13 | 1.19 | .291 | 102 | 98 | 4.24 | 0.3 | Chad Bradford |
| Dylan Covey | 601 | 6.14 | 4.12 | 1.28 | .299 | 81 | 123 | 5.12 | 0.3 | Tim Byron |
| Nate Jones | 147 | 9.70 | 3.41 | 1.31 | .289 | 109 | 92 | 4.20 | 0.2 | Matt Karchner |
| Matt Tomshaw | 586 | 5.39 | 2.32 | 1.50 | .309 | 80 | 125 | 5.07 | 0.2 | Mark Hendrickson |
| Randall Delgado | 228 | 7.74 | 3.78 | 1.20 | .294 | 96 | 104 | 4.49 | 0.1 | Ed Farmer |
| Matt Foster | 247 | 8.41 | 4.20 | 1.13 | .302 | 98 | 102 | 4.48 | 0.1 | Rich DeLosSantos |
| Jordan Stephens | 564 | 7.20 | 3.96 | 1.58 | .300 | 79 | 126 | 5.33 | 0.1 | Mike Mills |
| Colton Turner | 252 | 7.51 | 4.31 | 1.12 | .298 | 92 | 108 | 4.69 | 0.1 | Chris Cumberland |
| Zack Burdi | 110 | 10.22 | 5.84 | 1.09 | .290 | 95 | 106 | 4.53 | 0.0 | Brad Voyles |
| T.J. House | 364 | 5.79 | 5.21 | 1.04 | .306 | 79 | 127 | 5.30 | 0.0 | Roger Deago |
| James Shields | 686 | 6.82 | 3.73 | 1.75 | .286 | 78 | 128 | 5.54 | 0.0 | Steve Trachsel |
| Bruce Rondon | 197 | 10.67 | 6.49 | 0.84 | .312 | 93 | 108 | 4.29 | 0.0 | Mike MacDougal |
| Robbie Ross Jr. | 171 | 8.35 | 5.89 | 0.74 | .305 | 92 | 109 | 4.73 | 0.0 | Jim Brewer |
| Jacob Lindgren | 59 | 10.66 | 7.82 | 1.42 | .290 | 86 | 116 | 5.44 | -0.1 | Mark Acre |
| Alec Hansen | 438 | 8.39 | 6.46 | 1.35 | .298 | 77 | 130 | 5.55 | -0.1 | Rick Berg |
| Caleb Frare | 260 | 10.38 | 6.71 | 1.12 | .296 | 89 | 112 | 4.91 | -0.2 | Scott Wiggins |
| Tyler B. Johnson | 235 | 10.73 | 5.54 | 1.38 | .295 | 88 | 113 | 4.84 | -0.2 | Brad Voyles |
| Jose Ruiz | 257 | 9.00 | 5.63 | 1.13 | .308 | 86 | 116 | 4.81 | -0.3 | Marc Pisciotta |
| Thyago Vieira | 207 | 8.14 | 5.36 | 1.19 | .292 | 83 | 121 | 5.05 | -0.3 | Ken Wright |
| Zach Thompson | 301 | 7.20 | 5.54 | 1.11 | .299 | 84 | 120 | 5.18 | -0.4 | Lloyd Allen |
| Ryan Burr | 259 | 8.13 | 6.51 | 1.14 | .296 | 80 | 126 | 5.32 | -0.5 | Darin Moore |
| Carson Fulmer | 508 | 7.11 | 5.77 | 1.42 | .301 | 73 | 137 | 5.77 | -0.5 | Charlie Zink |
| Asher Wojciechowski | 465 | 8.10 | 3.40 | 2.26 | .302 | 71 | 140 | 5.93 | -0.7 | Nerio Rodriguez |
| Spencer Adams | 642 | 4.91 | 3.68 | 1.81 | .302 | 71 | 140 | 6.07 | -0.8 | Luis Mendoza |
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Players are listed with their most recent teams, unless I have made a mistake. This is very possible, as a lot of minor-league signings go generally unreported in the offseason.
ZiPS’ projections are based on the American League having a 4.29 ERA and the National League having a 4.15 ERA.
Players who are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information, and a computer isn’t the tool that should project the injury status of, for example, a pitcher who has had Tommy John surgery.
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Well, they did say that someday Yoan Moncada would be the best player on the team.
They weren’t wrong.
There is a moral in this story: No matter how loud your tools are, never slap an FV70 (or an FV65, and probably not even an FV60) on a guy whose scouting report reads “limited bat control” and “needs to overhaul his swing.” Everyone always thinks they’re getting Bryce Harper, but instead they’re getting Bo Jackson if they’re very, very lucky, and it’s more likely you wind up with Drew Stubbs.
I really believe that Moncada’s problem is not his swing, but his approach. He’s WAY too passive at the plate. He almost set the single-season strikeout record while having one of the lowest chase rates in the majors, which is preposterous. And he shattered the record for strikeouts looking in a season (85).
LOL: “Neither Harper or Machado will be paid a guaranteed rate by the Sox over the next decade.”
Tim Anderson was asked about Machado signing with the Padres, and he said something along the lines of “thank god we can stop talking about this”, but he also said “looks like Machado is going to miss out.” Doing the Padres and White Sox back-to-back really hammer this home, though: The rebuild in San Diego has gone far better than in Chicago. They potentially have some very good pitching (Kopech, Dunning, Cease) and one guy who is going to mash (Eloy, position TBD) and if you combine that with Rodon/Lopez it looks like you have the makings of a rotation, but without a lot of hitting to complement Eloy unless Madrigal steps up.
From this perspective, it sort of makes sense to go for Harper, but at those prices I don’t think he’s worth it. If they could have gotten Machado for the deal that he got from SD, that would have been a very good addition, but at this point they’re probably better off waiting and trying to get guys like Ozuna or Bogaerts.
They would certainly rather be where the Padres are, and I’m not going to mention one certain trade yet again.
Injuries really slowed things down last year. Robert, Kopech, and Burger were all being counted on and lost development time. Burdi too. Even Madrigal was probably still recovering from a wrist injury and Adolfo’s injury makes you question his future even though he hit well.
So the time table is probably set back a year since last year was lost, but all is not completely bleak. Kopech should be able to come back strong, Dunning and Cease are still looking promising, and if Rodon can stay healthy and sticks around then you’ve got yourself a starting staff that can be pretty good. If (big if) all that works out than anything you get out of Lopez and Giolito is gravy. If Basabe can continue to improve then an OF of Robert, Basabe, and Jimenez might actually be good. Anderson still looks at least OK and if Moncada can turn some of those 85 (!) caught lookings into balls in play then he has room for improvement as well. So while I’d rather have Kopech all year and have Moncada have a K rate under 30%, it’s not quite time to give up on them yet.
I live in Encinitas, 25 miles north of Petco, up the coast. Huge baseball fan from n.y.c Been here almost 40 years.
If I had Harper alone, I could sell him on the Padres. $300 million and living here ? Are you kidding me. Ever spent some time in America’s favorite city ?
Plus, with their minor league system, and the young stud pitchers coming up, plus Strahm has a good chance to breakout, Tatis, Machado, Mejia, Renfroe, Myers, Hosmer….and Yates is shutdown. Harper lives in Las Vegas. How perfect a fit San Diego would be. He could hang with the ballplayers who live here year round. Philly not San Diego. Petco would be sold out every night with Manny and Harper. We were getting 27,000 a night last year. I’m guessing, with our Latin community, we’ll draw 35,000 a night just with Machado.
Bring Bryce here , and you can package about 3 outfielders and a catcher for an experienced #2 starter.
Ozuna, Bogaerts….they’re leaving, why ?
The Tim Anderson/Shawon Dunston comp is perfect.
Except Tim Anderson has already had 2 2WAR seasons and dunston didnt have a single one in his career…..
Holy heck, 133 wRC+ for Eloy is 10 points higher than Vladito!
I’d assume that’s pretty much just because he’s over two years older.
its actually OPS+, but still
This is painful to read, and I don’t mean because of poor writing.
I can’t disagree. I do think a number of Sox players have high ceilings but of course most players do not reach their true ceiling. They also have some rather low floors. I hope the young players can stay healthy and at least have a chance to develop. And they should sign Harper.
that eloy comp is amazing.
Luis Robert seems interesting. A Jimmy Wynn comp sounds better than a 100 OPS+ peak.
Unfortunately, the other hundreds of members in the cohort were generally not as good as the Toy Cannon!
Ha! Which Kevin Brown is that in the Dane Dunning comp? Makes a big difference.
Assuming it’s the “right” Kevin Brown, his own age 24 season was his first full time in the majors. 191 innings of solidly above average ball to the tune of 3.1 WAR. If the ChiSox get that out of Dunning this year I hope they would be ecstatic.
ZIPS doesn’t buy Giolito’s 2nd half improvements last year? A 6.14 first half fip to a 4.70 second half is pretty notable (albeit still quite bad). His k/bb improved substantially, too. If they had an OF that could catch, and an IF that could field, I’d think he might be a sneaky sleeper to be…league average at least maybe? This is much lower praise than I originally planned it to be.
Moncada played 149 games at 2B and none at 3B last year. Sanchez played 141 games at 3B and nine at 2B. So why are they switched on the WAR graphic?
Because they’re switched in Spring Training.
Because they still hope Moncada is a full time player, they know that Sanchez really probably is best as a utility IF, and Nick Madrigal can’t play third base.
Yolmer will get 550 a.b.’s.
Moncada will play 3d and Yolmer 2nd to start the season. Good for fantasy for both.
This rebuild has gone bust. Jimenez should be fun tho. Then traded soon after probly. Jerry Reinsdorf and Kenny Williams what a disaster.
idk if it’s fair to call it a bust, they still have a lot of interesting kids, injuries just essentially wasted a year. Manny picked right – Padres are closer now. But we’ll see what happens here.
You’ve got to be questioning this plan, if there is one, at this point. Six TOTAL position players projected above 1 WAR is just seriously bad, especially since one hasn’t debuted yet. Project them hitting on all their prospects (because that happens), and they’re 10+ wins out of a playoff spot. I do not understand signing up for 1000+ PA of that outfield, again. This is a good example of a team stuck in a perpetual rebuild that has hurt the lower tier FA market. I’m not saying you don’t want to give non-premium prospects a second and third chance at surprising and establishing as regulars, but you’re not necessarily gaining anything by not challenging their grip on an everyday starter’s share of playing time.
All the White Sox are really accomplishing is weakening the MLB product as a whole by injecting a whole bunch of not-especially-interesting games into every other team’s schedule. That sucks, because there is clearly opportunity in the division they play in, right now.
Yeah we’ll see. If Reinsdorf didn’t luck into Jordan and that 2005 fluke starting rotation the appalling track record of mismanagement would be more exposed.
Have to scoff at how sycophants like Hawk Harrelson and Steve Stone kept hyping this rebuild.
Just Homers. They Love their team. I’m certain that they’re not blind.
I’m of the mind that the White Sox got some questionable players during their rebuild, but many of the deals didn’t look that bad at the time. Nobody was giving the White Sox a better deal than Kopech and Moncada, even with Moncada’s huge question marks. Nobody was giving the White Sox a better deal than Giolito/Lopez/Dunning for Eaton. And they hit the ball out of the park with the Quintana deal.
Where they’ve really gone wrong is with their amateur acquisition. What we’re seeing now is years of not having their draft picks and international signings pan out. You would hope that has changed, but even recently Robert had some pretty big question marks, and there are now even questions about Madrigal (who looked very safe). I don’t think the White Sox screwed the rebuild up, but they also definitely seem to have some problems with the scouting/development side that need to get fixed.
The outfield says it all to me. I’m amazed this team feels they gain anything by essentially writing off another 1200-1500 PA to Delmonico, Engel and Palka.
Chisenhall? Dietrich? Shoot, getting some future value for paying down a contract like Bruce or Puig? Low cost low-medium upside trade targets, like Duvall and Schebler a few years back were for the Reds, or like Jordan Luplow was for CLE this winter? Marwin Gonzalez (they could really use a starting infielder fallback as it is)? Add one of the Rays 14 second basemen and convert them? Add from the lower end of the Padres 9 outfielders, like Jankowski? Were they in on a fairly cheap Pham at all last summer? Hell, even a low cost 1yr veteran like Markakis or Adam Jones, with an eye towards getting a teenager for one in August?
Like, seriously, deal with this depth chart at some point. I don’t understand why this is so difficult, but then again, I don’t understand why the Giants have made a habit of this kind of outfield for the past several years either.
This team will be in more or less the same position next offseason.
They’ve certainly had position player acquisition/development issues for a long time, and prior to this rebuild, Tim Anderson’s really the only recent success story. Pitchers, not so much; otherwise they wouldn’t have had Sale and Quintana to deal away.
The issue with the most of the current crop of position player prospects is that they can’t stay healthy. Robert & Adolfo are tantalizingly talented but can’t stay on the field, Basabe already broke his hamate in live BP the other day, their 2017 1st-rounder Burger busted his Achilles not once but twice last year, and Madrigal showing little power in his first taste of pro ball is impossible to distinguish from his broken wrist earlier in the year. Some of that might be issues with their training, but some of this stuff is just outright awful luck.
Two players that stood out to me. ZIPS projects Jose Abreu to perform significantly worse across the board than just about every other projections system. Depth Charts has win at 2.4 WAR whereas ZIPS has him at 1.7.
ZIPS is very high on Kopech, as am I, projecting him to be the 14th best pitcher in all of baseball; however, Kiley and Eric project his ceiling to be a #3 starter. I personally think his ceiling is that of an ace.
They answered that a little in the chat. They only consider there to be about 6 or 8 “aces” in all of baseball at any time so #14 pitcher in all of baseball makes him a #2 by that definition. I think in the chat they called his ceiling “#2/3” which would fit with that, although they did say #3 on the top 100 list write up.
Keep in mind there’s also a gigantic difference between a projection (ZIPs projecting him as 14th best pitcher in baseball) and a player’s ceiling. Saying he has the ceiling of a #3 is laughable at best – even based on their description of a #1.
Agreed. If the projections peg him as the 14th best pitcher in baseball, I would have to imagine that fits their definition of a #2. That’s the expected outcome. If that’s true, I don’t see how you can possibly say he doesn’t have a ceiling of a #1.
Chris Volstad… now that’s a name I haven’t heard for a long, long time.
My uncle told me he might be dead.
I’d put Harper in the very small group of players who weren’t really *developed* by a team much if any but were merely *drafted*. He was in the majors after only about 500 total minor league PA’s and was immediately a 4+ fWAR player in 2012.
Still true that it’s very difficult to *draft* a Bryce Harper since the number of those players is well below an average of one per year.