2019 ZiPS Projections – Los Angeles Dodgers

After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for more than half a decade. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Batters

Overall, the Dodgers still project as being among the best teams in baseball, but something feels curiously unsatisfying about the team’s offseason. The team appears to be shuffling the outfield again, but is the Cody Bellinger/A.J. Pollock/Guy in CF While A.J. Pollock is Injured/Maybe Alex Verdugo configuration really any better than the Bellinger/Joc Pederson/Yasiel Puig option — while still having Alex Wood and Kyle Farmer but not the Reds prospects — would have been? Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t. Pollock is a better player than Pederson, but riskier given his health history, and ZiPS has always been slightly underwhelmed by Verdugo. Given the team’s positional flexibility and their theoretical pocketbook, this depth chart could still change considerably over the next month; despite the tea leaves suggesting they’re out on Bryce Harper, I remain less than 100% convinced.

One wonders how much of Los Angeles’ apparent lack of interest in a big name isn’t a matter of feeling miserly, but is simply a reflection of the state of the NL West, which looks a lot less dangerous for the reigning champs than last year. Barring big changes, Arizona’s in a mostly-rebuilding phase, the Giants probably saw their last real opportunity to compete with their current core end last summer, and only part of San Diego’s prospect crop will be reaped this year, though a move for Manny Machado or J.T. Realmuto could accelerate the Padres’ timeline. That just leaves the Rockies, who while improved with Daniel Murphy at first, are unlikely to get quite as much awesomeness from their best players as they received in 2018. Colorado’s the biggest threat to the Dodgers in the division, but they’re also a passive team apparently content with their holes.

ZiPS is sold on Max Muncy, in large part due to his velocity data, the magnitude of his 2018 breakout, and the fact that his translated 2017 performance of .264/.351/.420 was more-than-adequate. That’s enough to effectively counteract his disappointing prior major league performance and meh-minus minor league translations of .218/.317/.346 and .219/.282/.359. In the end, ZiPS sees a lot more downside risk in Muncy’s batting average than his power, power being a difficult trick to fake.

Pitchers
Clayton Kershaw’s projection has to be the best OMG THAT’S HORRIBLE projection that ZiPS has ever spat out. The fact is, he’s missed time due to injury in four of the last five seasons and while no individual injury has been of the severe variety — the sort where ligaments are replaced or shoulders reconstructed — there’s evidence that he’s just not at the same level as he was from 2013-2016. ZiPS is still projecting him to be a star, but you can’t ignore his continued velocity decline and the loss of 20% of his strikeouts. That was enough to drop his yearly top comp from Sandy Koufax to “only” Tom Glavine. A brief aside: Kershaw was actually slightly easier to make contact against in 2018 than the average pitcher, which is really weird.

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The bottom-line WAR projections aren’t generally in the stratosphere for the Dodgers, but that’s in large part due to the fact that the pitching staff has a checkered health record and ZiPS is only projecting Kershaw to qualify for the rate stat leaderboard. What the Dodgers don’t have in health they’ve been forced to make up for in depth, and of the pitchers on the 40-man roster, ZiPS projects a shocking 15 to have a league-average ERA or better (when adjusting for park, of course). Just on the major league roster, ZiPS sees both Caleb Ferguson and Ross Stripling as perfectly adequate fallback options if (when?) the rotation starts making DL trips.

I believe that Kenley Jansen is the first player to get a top comp of a prime Mariano Rivera (a few have gotten him as a minor-league starter). Seems kinda poetic given Jansen’s cutter, which ZiPS doesn’t actually know about, though he’s unlikely to retire as the best reliever in major league history. From a comp standpoint, a team shouldn’t be able to complain too much when a quarter of their pitching staff has Hall of Famers — easy ones rather than guys that just happened to be Frankie Frisch’s teammates — as their top comparisons.

Bench and Prospects

ZiPS doesn’t see the Dodger farm system as being as strong as it did in the last few years, but there’s still a lot of future major league value here. ZiPS isn’t on the Alex Verdugo star bandwagon, but at least sees him as an above-average starter in his prime, and the projections for Keibert Ruiz are of a similar level of quality. ZiPS thinks that both Dustin May and Dennis Santana wouldn’t embarrass themselves if dragooned into duty on the major league roster, and even Yadier Alvarez, a pitching prospect who a set of algorithms ought to have issues properly appreciating, gets a projection in the same zip code as league-average. ZiPS thinks that both Will Smith and Gavin Lux will be league-average regulars, but sees a significant quality dropoff after that pair. That’s not including Jeter Downs, who will get a projection for ZiPS Top 100 list, but I avoid giving official seasonal projections for players who’ve only played in the Midwest League outside of rookie ball unless I’m forced to by circumstance.

One pedantic note for 2019: for the WAR graphic, I’m using FanGraphs’ depth chart playing time, not the playing time ZiPS spits out, so there will be occasional differences in WAR totals.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site.

Batters – Counting Stats
Player B Age PO G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS
Manny Machado R 26 SS 156 618 88 174 36 2 34 112 60 110 11 3
Cody Bellinger L 23 1B 156 545 92 147 29 6 34 101 73 149 14 2
Corey Seager L 25 SS 129 499 72 140 32 3 17 77 47 111 4 1
Justin Turner R 34 3B 118 409 60 119 27 1 15 63 46 64 4 1
A.J. Pollock R 31 CF 114 425 65 112 24 4 16 57 32 90 16 4
Chris Taylor R 28 SS 148 523 76 130 30 7 15 63 50 154 13 7
Joc Pederson R 27 CF 136 386 62 92 24 2 22 62 56 108 3 5
Max Muncy L 28 1B 131 385 63 94 18 2 23 66 64 124 3 1
Keibert Ruiz B 20 C 107 407 47 107 19 1 10 45 22 57 0 1
Alex Verdugo L 23 CF 138 474 59 130 25 2 11 50 40 67 8 3
Kiké Hernandez R 27 CF 145 361 55 89 19 2 16 48 44 87 3 0
Russell Martin R 36 C 94 314 44 67 11 0 12 40 48 92 1 3
Austin Barnes R 29 C 102 262 38 63 13 1 5 30 37 65 7 2
Will D. Smith R 24 C 88 327 39 64 14 1 12 39 31 122 4 1
David Freese R 36 3B 111 335 39 82 14 1 10 50 31 97 0 0
Gavin Lux L 21 SS 120 493 61 117 20 7 13 53 44 125 11 10
DJ Peters R 23 CF 133 517 65 103 21 4 23 66 40 235 1 3
Matt Beaty L 26 1B 101 388 45 101 21 1 7 44 25 68 2 2
Chase Utley L 40 2B 94 203 24 46 12 2 3 20 19 41 4 1
Andrew Toles R 27 LF 95 327 40 82 18 2 7 39 15 76 7 5
Jake Peter L 26 2B 117 426 46 96 16 2 8 41 30 126 6 4
Rob Segedin R 30 1B 85 282 37 68 13 2 9 41 21 69 1 1
Rocky Gale R 31 C 98 324 29 72 13 2 3 29 15 65 1 1
Angelo Mora B 26 2B 105 370 36 87 16 4 6 40 20 94 4 3
Edwin Rios L 25 3B 109 406 47 95 22 1 13 54 22 144 1 2
Travis Taijeron R 30 RF 116 397 50 84 21 2 16 55 41 165 1 2
Connor Wong R 23 C 100 383 46 80 15 1 15 46 27 158 5 3
Paulo Orlando R 33 RF 106 369 39 87 17 2 7 36 13 86 4 1
Josh Thole L 32 C 34 98 8 19 3 0 1 6 9 23 1 0
Shane Peterson L 31 LF 120 390 42 91 21 3 9 49 23 114 3 0
Zach McKinstry L 24 2B 94 325 35 67 12 3 4 27 32 103 3 3
Jeren Kendall L 23 CF 110 438 42 84 13 5 10 36 35 181 22 17
Cameron Perkins R 28 1B 108 389 44 93 23 2 9 48 21 77 6 3
Tyler Goeddel R 26 LF 99 322 35 70 11 3 5 30 27 89 7 3
Cristian Santana R 22 3B 128 536 56 123 19 1 18 68 15 163 1 2
Zach Reks L 25 LF 84 297 31 69 10 2 4 24 24 99 5 4
Errol Robinson R 24 SS 107 417 44 91 15 2 7 36 29 127 14 6
Kyle Garlick R 27 RF 110 407 47 85 20 2 17 54 21 160 2 0
Omar Estevez R 21 SS 133 538 57 111 26 2 11 53 33 171 2 2
Michael Ahmed R 27 3B 86 298 32 57 10 2 7 27 28 122 4 4
Logan Landon R 26 LF 108 381 41 80 15 1 10 38 25 131 14 4

Batters – Rate Stats
Player BA OBP SLG OPS+ ISO BABIP RC/27 Def WAR No. 1 Comp
Manny Machado .282 .344 .511 128 .230 .295 6.7 -4 5.3 Adrian Beltre
Cody Bellinger .270 .357 .532 137 .262 .312 7.2 4 4.8 Johnny Callison
Corey Seager .281 .346 .459 116 .178 .332 6.0 3 4.0 Troy Tulowitzki
Justin Turner .291 .376 .472 128 .181 .315 6.8 3 4.0 George Kell
A.J. Pollock .264 .320 .452 106 .188 .301 5.5 3 2.7 Jackie Brandt
Chris Taylor .249 .320 .419 98 .170 .325 4.8 -2 2.4 Robby Thompson
Joc Pederson .238 .342 .482 120 .244 .273 5.7 -5 2.3 Jon Nunnally
Max Muncy .244 .355 .481 124 .236 .298 6.1 -3 2.1 Johnny Briggs
Keibert Ruiz .263 .308 .388 88 .125 .285 4.3 3 1.8 Mike Lieberthal
Alex Verdugo .274 .332 .405 99 .131 .301 5.1 -4 1.7 Nick Markakis
Kiké Hernandez .247 .328 .443 107 .197 .283 5.3 -3 1.7 Scott Hairston
Russell Martin .213 .329 .363 88 .150 .262 3.9 1 1.5 Rick Dempsey
Austin Barnes .240 .344 .355 91 .115 .302 4.5 1 1.4 Al Lopez
Will D. Smith .196 .277 .355 70 .159 .269 3.4 7 1.3 Rick Wilkins
David Freese .245 .324 .382 91 .137 .316 4.4 1 1.2 Tony Graffanino
Gavin Lux .237 .301 .385 85 .148 .293 3.9 -3 1.1 D’Angelo Jimenez
DJ Peters .199 .272 .389 77 .190 .309 3.5 -2 0.4 Brent Clevlen
Matt Beaty .260 .310 .374 84 .113 .300 4.2 3 0.3 Tommy Gregg
Chase Utley .227 .310 .350 79 .123 .270 3.9 -1 0.3 Craig Counsell
Andrew Toles .251 .288 .382 80 .131 .307 3.9 4 0.3 Rod Allen
Jake Peter .225 .281 .329 65 .103 .301 3.2 5 0.3 Mendy Lopez
Rob Segedin .241 .298 .397 86 .156 .289 4.2 1 0.2 Marlin McPhail
Rocky Gale .222 .261 .302 52 .080 .270 2.7 6 0.1 Izzy Molina
Angelo Mora .235 .275 .349 68 .114 .300 3.3 1 0.0 Juan Melo
Edwin Rios .234 .278 .389 78 .155 .329 3.7 -4 -0.1 Roy Howell
Travis Taijeron .212 .295 .395 85 .184 .315 3.9 -5 -0.2 Dustan Mohr
Connor Wong .209 .271 .371 72 .162 .310 3.4 -9 -0.3 Bob Geren
Paulo Orlando .236 .268 .350 66 .114 .290 3.4 4 -0.3 Dave Augustine
Josh Thole .194 .266 .255 43 .061 .243 2.4 -2 -0.4 Charlie Greene
Shane Peterson .233 .280 .372 75 .138 .307 3.7 -2 -0.4 Jalal Leach
Zach McKinstry .206 .288 .298 60 .092 .289 2.8 -1 -0.4 Abel Nieves
Jeren Kendall .192 .253 .313 52 .121 .300 2.4 8 -0.4 Jimmy White
Cameron Perkins .239 .285 .378 78 .139 .277 3.8 -2 -0.5 Virgil Chevalier
Tyler Goeddel .217 .287 .317 64 .099 .285 3.2 0 -0.6 Casey Craig
Cristian Santana .229 .252 .369 66 .140 .296 3.2 -3 -0.7 Matthew Moses
Zach Reks .232 .291 .320 66 .088 .335 3.2 -1 -0.7 Angelo Cuevas
Errol Robinson .218 .271 .314 58 .096 .297 3.0 -5 -0.7 Brian Bixler
Kyle Garlick .209 .253 .393 72 .184 .296 3.5 -3 -0.8 Brian McFall
Omar Estevez .206 .255 .323 56 .117 .281 2.8 -2 -0.9 Ricky Magdaleno
Michael Ahmed .191 .266 .309 55 .117 .296 2.6 -3 -1.0 Frank Kremblas
Logan Landon .210 .261 .333 60 .123 .292 3.1 -3 -1.2 Juan Piniella

Pitchers – Counting Stats
Player T Age W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO
Clayton Kershaw L 31 11 6 2.91 26 26 164.0 138 53 18 27 170
Walker Buehler R 24 9 6 3.31 28 27 141.3 118 52 16 46 163
Kenta Maeda R 31 12 8 3.63 36 24 143.7 131 58 17 43 149
Rich Hill L 39 9 7 3.81 22 22 115.7 98 49 17 40 128
Caleb Ferguson L 22 8 6 3.53 39 9 109.7 99 43 10 48 115
Ross Stripling R 29 7 6 3.92 32 17 105.7 105 46 16 25 103
Kenley Jansen R 31 3 2 2.95 64 0 64.0 50 21 9 15 81
Hyun-jin Ryu L 32 6 5 3.89 17 17 88.0 89 38 14 21 82
Dustin May R 21 7 7 4.45 24 24 131.3 142 65 19 35 96
Scott Alexander L 29 3 2 3.61 67 0 67.3 63 27 5 26 57
Ryan Madson R 38 4 3 3.28 52 0 49.3 44 18 5 13 50
Joe Kelly R 31 3 2 3.56 65 0 60.7 51 24 4 29 64
Dennis Santana R 23 5 5 4.24 18 16 87.0 83 41 11 35 87
Yadier Alvarez R 23 3 3 4.43 21 14 67.0 62 33 6 45 65
Daniel Corcino R 28 4 4 4.55 29 16 95.0 94 48 13 43 87
Pedro Baez R 31 4 3 3.72 59 0 58.0 51 24 7 22 62
Josh Sborz R 25 4 3 3.72 55 0 58.0 51 24 5 27 61
Joe Broussard R 28 5 4 3.84 53 0 65.7 63 28 8 22 63
Zach McAllister R 31 3 2 3.79 49 0 54.7 53 23 7 16 54
Josh Fields R 33 2 2 3.75 53 0 48.0 45 20 6 14 47
Mitchell White R 24 6 6 4.68 22 22 98.0 102 51 13 43 78
Brock Stewart R 27 4 4 4.70 26 20 103.3 108 54 17 35 87
Tony Cingrani L 29 2 1 3.66 45 0 39.3 32 16 5 17 50
JT Chargois R 28 3 3 3.97 50 0 45.3 41 20 4 24 45
Tony Gonsolin R 25 6 6 4.87 26 26 118.3 123 64 20 53 103
John Axford R 36 3 2 3.94 46 0 48.0 44 21 4 23 47
Dylan Floro R 28 4 4 4.28 52 0 67.3 72 32 9 18 48
Julio Urias L 22 1 1 4.25 12 9 36.0 33 17 5 16 38
Shea Spitzbarth R 24 4 4 4.24 43 0 68.0 63 32 10 31 74
Kevin Quackenbush R 30 3 3 4.18 55 0 56.0 54 26 8 20 53
Daniel Hudson R 32 3 3 4.18 53 0 51.7 48 24 6 24 52
Logan Bawcom R 30 6 7 5.08 25 14 85.0 91 48 13 38 62
Logan Salow L 24 4 4 4.32 39 0 50.0 48 24 6 26 49
Nolan Long R 25 4 4 4.41 46 0 63.3 58 31 8 39 69
C.C. Lee R 32 2 2 4.31 27 0 31.3 29 15 5 12 34
Adam McCreery L 26 3 3 4.58 41 0 55.0 48 28 4 45 59
Logan Ondrusek R 34 2 2 4.42 38 0 38.7 38 19 6 15 36
Yimi Garcia R 28 2 2 4.43 42 0 40.7 43 20 8 7 37
Adam Liberatore L 32 3 3 4.54 38 0 33.7 33 17 5 14 30
Zach Neal R 30 5 6 5.28 29 15 105.7 123 62 21 16 56
Erik Goeddel R 30 2 2 4.69 46 0 48.0 45 25 8 23 52
Marshall Kasowski R 24 2 2 4.71 42 0 49.7 37 26 5 50 72
Ben Holmes L 27 3 4 5.22 25 10 70.7 76 41 11 35 54
Jaime Schultz R 28 4 5 5.36 41 11 80.7 74 48 16 53 97
Tyler Pill R 29 5 7 5.36 22 17 99.0 114 59 18 32 61
Parker Curry R 25 6 8 5.26 38 10 87.3 95 51 16 40 75
Andre Scrubb R 24 4 5 5.05 38 0 57.0 55 32 6 46 52
Dylan Baker R 27 3 5 5.67 30 1 33.3 38 21 6 17 20
Justin de Fratus R 31 5 8 5.70 24 18 109.0 131 69 23 30 63

Pitchers – Rate Stats
Player TBF K/9 BB/9 HR/9 BABIP ERA+ ERA- FIP WAR No. 1 Comp
Clayton Kershaw 648 9.33 1.48 0.99 .278 139 72 3.03 4.1 Tom Glavine
Walker Buehler 586 10.38 2.93 1.02 .288 122 82 3.44 2.9 John Smoltz
Kenta Maeda 601 9.33 2.69 1.06 .295 115 87 3.64 2.8 Mark Gubicza
Rich Hill 486 9.96 3.11 1.32 .276 109 92 4.09 2.0 Al Leiter
Caleb Ferguson 475 9.44 3.94 0.82 .301 114 88 3.72 1.8 Terry Forster
Ross Stripling 442 8.77 2.13 1.36 .301 103 97 3.94 1.4 Gil Heredia
Kenley Jansen 255 11.39 2.11 1.27 .277 137 73 3.24 1.4 Mariano Rivera
Hyun-jin Ryu 370 8.39 2.15 1.43 .299 104 96 4.14 1.2 Zane Smith
Dustin May 569 6.58 2.40 1.30 .299 91 110 4.55 1.1 Rick Wise
Scott Alexander 288 7.62 3.48 0.67 .293 115 87 3.67 1.0 Harry Perkowski
Ryan Madson 205 9.12 2.37 0.91 .291 127 79 3.41 0.9 Todd Jones
Joe Kelly 261 9.49 4.30 0.59 .292 117 86 3.48 0.9 Jim Hughes
Dennis Santana 378 9.00 3.62 1.14 .300 95 105 4.17 0.9 Denny Bautista
Yadier Alvarez 307 8.73 6.04 0.81 .299 94 106 4.57 0.6 J.R. Richard
Daniel Corcino 420 8.24 4.07 1.23 .298 89 113 4.61 0.6 Johnny Klippstein
Pedro Baez 244 9.62 3.41 1.09 .289 108 92 3.77 0.6 Mike DeJean
Josh Sborz 251 9.47 4.19 0.78 .297 108 92 3.72 0.6 Clay Bryant
Joe Broussard 280 8.63 3.02 1.10 .299 105 95 3.96 0.6 Joe Grahe
Zach McAllister 231 8.89 2.63 1.15 .303 110 91 3.83 0.6 Danny Patterson
Josh Fields 201 8.81 2.63 1.13 .293 111 90 3.75 0.5 Terry Leach
Mitchell White 437 7.16 3.95 1.19 .299 86 116 4.75 0.5 Ed Wojna
Brock Stewart 450 7.58 3.05 1.48 .297 86 117 4.77 0.5 Mickey Callaway
Tony Cingrani 167 11.44 3.89 1.14 .290 110 91 3.71 0.4 Yorkis Perez
JT Chargois 201 8.93 4.76 0.79 .296 105 95 4.10 0.4 George Smith
Tony Gonsolin 529 7.83 4.03 1.52 .298 83 121 5.13 0.4 Tom Griffin
John Axford 210 8.81 4.31 0.75 .299 102 98 3.84 0.4 Turk Lown
Dylan Floro 289 6.42 2.41 1.20 .297 97 103 4.35 0.4 Tom Morgan
Julio Urias 156 9.50 4.00 1.25 .292 95 105 4.26 0.3 Trevor Wilson
Shea Spitzbarth 298 9.79 4.10 1.32 .296 95 105 4.43 0.3 Anthony Chavez
Kevin Quackenbush 239 8.52 3.21 1.29 .293 97 104 4.24 0.3 Jose Silva
Daniel Hudson 226 9.06 4.18 1.05 .298 96 104 4.21 0.3 Marc Wilkins
Logan Bawcom 381 6.56 4.02 1.38 .295 82 122 5.16 0.2 Blue Moon Odom
Logan Salow 224 8.82 4.68 1.08 .300 93 107 4.49 0.2 Mike Murphy
Nolan Long 287 9.81 5.54 1.14 .299 92 109 4.65 0.1 Anthony Chavez
C.C. Lee 135 9.77 3.45 1.44 .293 94 107 4.39 0.1 Jason Childers
Adam McCreery 257 9.65 7.36 0.65 .301 91 110 4.57 0.1 Clay Bryant
Logan Ondrusek 167 8.38 3.49 1.40 .294 91 110 4.55 0.1 Ricky Barlow
Yimi Garcia 171 8.19 1.55 1.77 .299 91 110 4.55 0.1 Jeff Tam
Adam Liberatore 148 8.02 3.74 1.34 .289 89 113 4.72 0.0 Mike Venafro
Zach Neal 452 4.77 1.36 1.79 .288 79 127 5.27 0.0 Tim McClaskey
Erik Goeddel 211 9.75 4.31 1.50 .294 86 116 4.71 0.0 Mike Cook
Marshall Kasowski 236 13.05 9.06 0.91 .302 86 117 4.76 -0.1 Rafael Pimentel
Ben Holmes 322 6.88 4.46 1.40 .298 77 129 5.30 -0.1 Wade Blasingame
Jaime Schultz 369 10.82 5.91 1.79 .293 78 129 5.48 -0.2 Leslie Brea
Tyler Pill 441 5.55 2.91 1.64 .296 75 133 5.43 -0.3 Don August
Parker Curry 396 7.73 4.12 1.65 .304 77 130 5.36 -0.3 David Potts
Andre Scrubb 271 8.21 7.26 0.95 .299 80 125 5.27 -0.3 Lloyd Allen
Dylan Baker 154 5.40 4.59 1.62 .294 73 136 6.00 -0.3 Tom Dukes
Justin de Fratus 486 5.20 2.48 1.90 .298 71 141 5.76 -0.7 Allen Davis

Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2019. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.

Players are listed with their most recent teams, unless I have made a mistake. This is very possible, as a lot of minor-league signings go generally unreported in the offseason.

ZiPS’ projections are based on the American League having a 4.29 ERA and the National League having a 4.15 ERA.

Players who are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information, and a computer isn’t the tool that should project the injury status of, for example, a pitcher who has had Tommy John surgery.

Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by me, Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in full release of ZiPS. Finally, I will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on a depth chart to produce projected team WAR.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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TulkasMember since 2020
7 years ago

You’ve got Manny Machado listed in the tables below the graphic

BenZobrist4MVP
7 years ago
Reply to  Tulkas

Players are always included with the last team they played for.

dl80Member since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  BenZobrist4MVP

But then shouldn’t Puig be here? What if Dan had already done the Reds projection when the trade happened? Would Puig go here?

neuroccountantMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  dl80

Players that are not signed to another team are listed with the last team for which they played. Zach McAllister was included here as a mistake.

Wonderful Terrific Monds
7 years ago
Reply to  Tulkas

Yes, by design.

stever20Member since 2017
7 years ago

Seager will be really interesting to see how he comes back after out for last 5 months last year.

CamdenWarehouseMember since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  stever20

Hopefully ZiPS isn’t also projecting Tulo’s injury woes for Seager

stever20Member since 2017
7 years ago

LOL, very well played!

Ecofolux
7 years ago
Reply to  stever20

I’m pumped for Seager’s return: .310/.380/.500 28 100 certainly looks like old school Tulo to me

johansantana17Member since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  Ecofolux

And Seager plays in a much more pitcher-friendly home park, so his wRC+ would be higher than Tulo’s.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
7 years ago

So a playoff rotation of Glavine, Smoltz, and Leiter. With a bullpen backstopped by Mariano Rivera and set up by Todd Jones.

Yes please.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

The comps are always fun. Where in the world do they come up with the 1950’s Cincinnati staff of Harry Perkowski and Johnny Klippstein.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

This situation kind of has a Cleveland-esque feel to it. No big competitors for the division, so they just skate on by and hope luck shines favorably on them. Their biggest disadvantage, relative to Cleveland, is that the Rockies pushed the Dodgers to the limit last year (really!) and both teams are mostly returning intact–if anything, the Rockies are a little better with Murphy and the Dodgers are a little worse without Grandal. Their biggest advantage is that they don’t have to fight the Astros, Red Sox, or Yankees in the playoffs.

Overall, this team is falling shy of the superteam status they looked like they had last offseason, with some questions in the bullpen, exactly where everyone is going to play, and exactly how the rotation shakes out with the admirable depth but also all the injury questions (take a look at their Top 6 on FG’s Depth Charts; it’ll raise your blood pressure). I wouldn’t be surprised if this team tries to add a pitcher at the deadline that will compensate for the inevitable attrition in the rotation, and allow them to deploy some of their excellent starters in relief roles in the postseason. Honestly, it’s the kind of team that would make a lot of sense for Dallas Keuchel, but I don’t think the team is willing to make that kind of commitment until it becomes clear they need it.

mikejuntMember
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The rockies added Murphy but lost LeMahieu, who while an average bat was part of a superlative infield defense.

I dont think the Rockies are a better team than they were in 2018. Its a wash at best and given Murphy’s risk of injury, probably a downgrade.

Also, a team with 15 (!!) pitchers expected to be league average or better doesnt really have pitching depth issues.

The biggest weakness on the team as constructed is outfield depth in the event that an injury pulls both Hernandez and Taylor to the infield or Muncy disappoints.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Well, the biggest issue for the Rockies is obviously that they outperformed their BaseRuns by six wins. I’m not convinced position player depth for LAD is that much of a problem, given Pederson and Toles in addition to Hernandez (it’ll get slammed against left-handed pitching, but that’s another story), as well as the ridiculous number of players who look to be available for super-cheap deals (Adam Jones and Josh Harrison among them). And if Muncy disappoints, they have Rios and Freese.

stever20Member since 2017
7 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

1 injury to Buehler and their rotation gets very thin very quickly. Rich Hill is going to get hurt at some point, that’s a given. Kershaw if you’re lucky gives you 25 starts. Stripling definitely is a wild card. Can Ryu stay healthy?

The rotation is no where near as deep as you think.

Also, the 15 pitchers might not matter as much if the DL rules get changed back to 15 days(and 15 day required stay if optioned to the farm).

mikejuntMember
7 years ago
Reply to  stever20

I guess that’s why they have Ferguson, Santana, etc also projected to be league average

Those guys all start, fyi

stever20Member since 2017
7 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Buehler though is way over league average. Even looking- that’s going from John Smoltz to Terry Forster or Denny Bautista. That’s a huge drop off. That depth is going to be needed for sure with guys like Hill, Kershaw, Ryu, and Stripling.

Not even mentioning that if Ferguson starts, he is gone from the bullpen where he was a pretty decent piece last year.

mikejuntMember
7 years ago
Reply to  stever20

Team that loses all-star caliber pitcher to injury will be worse while he’s out, News at 11.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Santana also has injury concerns! It’s an incredibly deep group, but they’re going to need it. Out of the ten starters listed on the Depth Charts, only Stripling and Ferguson are free of major injury concerns. Even Brock Stewart was on the 60-day DL.

Dodgerfan711
7 years ago
Reply to  stever20

Every year we hear about how their rotation will fall apart and it doesn’t happen. Guess people still want to sing that tune

stever20Member since 2017
7 years ago
Reply to  Dodgerfan711

I guess part of it is that the injuries that do come always have come in the first half- 2/3 of the season. It would be interesting to see if those same injuries happened in August/September. Even Kershaw the one year was out in July and August- but was back come September 1.

oozyalbies1
7 years ago
Reply to  stever20

I think that’s also, at least partially, by design. Has any team been accused of manipulating the 10-day DL more than the Dodgers?

Also, don’t forget that they can always fall back on actually keeping Maeda in the rotation, as long as they don’t mind paying him those incentive bonuses!

stever20Member since 2017
7 years ago
Reply to  oozyalbies1

Of course, that 10 day DL may very possibly be a thing of the past as soon as this season. And even more importantly, the fact that someone optioned to the minors might have to be there for 15 days.

mikejuntMember
7 years ago
Reply to  stever20

The options thing doesnt actually matter that much because there’s already an exception that allows you to recall a player early if another player goes on the DL

stever20Member since 2017
7 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

right. But the 15 day DL would make it much tougher for the shuffling that the Dodgers did. Especially with the starters.

tung_twista
7 years ago
Reply to  stever20

Kershaw has failed to start 26+ games just once in the last 10 years.
Why do you need to be lucky to get 25 starts from him?

stever20Member since 2017
7 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

and in the last 5 years he’s made 27/33/21/27/26 starts- with some in essence rehab starts in there. Kershaw is going to miss some time almost guaranteed.

mikejuntMember
7 years ago
Reply to  stever20

“you will be lucky to get a performance worse than anything hes ever done” is a stupid statement, FYI

stever20Member since 2017
7 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

last year he had 26 starts, but 3 of them were in essence rehab starts at the MLB level- 5 innings or fewer. So only 23 regular starts

He’s also a year older. Last 3 years he’s averaged 24.67 starts. To act like there’s no concern with Kershaw is foolish. He’s more likely to start fewer than 25 games than he is to start over 30 games.

majnun
7 years ago
Reply to  stever20

so is every pitcher in baseball

stever20Member since 2017
7 years ago
Reply to  majnun

To act like Kershaw isn’t much more injury prone now than your typical pitcher is comical. He’s missed just in the last 3 years about 20-22 starts. 56 guys in MLB have started more than he has in that time.

To put him in context, he’s started exactly 2 more games right now last 3 years than Madbum. And exactly the same number as Stephen Strasburg.

FrodoBeck
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

If I’m the Dodgers I’m not too worried about the Rockies. The Dodgers went 92-71, but a pythagorean win-loss of 102-61, while the Rockies went 91-72 with a pythag of 85-78.

A ridiculous number of things went wrong for the Dodgers in 2018, and a decent number of things went right for the Rockies. It just doesn’t seem feasible that the race is anywhere near as close as it was last year.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  FrodoBeck

So I’m on board with it being unlikely the Rockies are going to get that many breaks again. I suppose it’s possible that guys like Iannetta and Desmond pick up the pace, but that’s more likely to compensate for the breaks they got last year than any sort of actual improvement.

On the other hand, with the creakiness of that rotation, there are a lot of scenarios where things can go wrong for the Dodgers. Really, really wrong.

drew_willyMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

*A lot* of scenarios where things can go *really* wrong?

Sure, but more so than for the Rockies, any other division opponent, or any other MLB team generally? I can’t see why we should think so.

Should a couple starters suffer injuries, they’ll be depending on guys like Stripling, Urías, Ferguson, and/or Santana to make starts. That’d be a 2018 all-star caliber guy, a 2016 postseason- worthy starter, and two guys who’d be fifth starter types on most teams. That doesn’t sound too bad for replacing 80% of your rotation.

On the position player side, maybe Verdugo doesn’t work out – good thing they have 3 or 4 OF’ers who have put up all-star numbers in recent years. Maybe Muncy turns back into a pumpkin – the 2017 ROY who is good for 20+ bombs, great defense, and plenty of steals will have to do. If either Turner or Seager get hurt, they’ll swap in one of the two slightly above league average super utility types they’ve got. If Russell Martin retires in July, I guess they’ll just have to call up their top 5 catching prospect to take over. If something else also happens, it is fortunate they still have one or two extra outfielders and a few decent prospects available to trade (and the TV revenue to finance eating bad contracts).

With all the major league depth and farm and commercial resources, I would think the 2018 Dodgers have one of the highest floors a team could have. The number of above replacement, and even league average, guys they have in the organization is astounding. They’re not chock full of stars, but they are full of guys who aren’t bad. I have to suspect if we looked at median 2019 projected player WAR per team, the Dodgers’ would be near the top.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  drew_willy

No, it’s mostly just the pitching. The position player depth is enormous; there’s almost nothing that can go too wrong there. I don’t buy that the team is done adding depth to the position player set, and even if they don’t, they’ve got a ton of players already who can start. They certainly could upgrade the outfield if they wanted to try to cement superteam status, but it’s not a major concern.

There are two issues with the pitching, one of which is obviously more serious than the others.

The more serious one is that the whole starting rotation is a massive injury risk. Their top 6 starters are all enormous injury risks, as are Santana and Stewart. A scenario where they lose 2 or 3 of Kershaw/Buehler/Hill/Ryu/Maeda for the season is not that farfetched. A scenario where they are running out a rotation of Urias, Stripling, Santana, Stewart, and Ferguson for a period of time isn’t likely, but it isn’t particularly farfetched either. That’s not even taking into account the true disaster scenarios, where every starter gets injured, which would be virtually impossible for most non-Mets teams but is actually not zero here.

The reason why there are so many scenarios where this can go wrong is because it’s not like there is one or two players with an injury risk here; it’s the whole rotation. Hill is a 39 year old, so there’s obvious risk there, plus he’s guaranteed to miss time because of blister problems or management issues. Kershaw has a history of back problems, and you can easily imagine scenarios where he pitches close to 200 innings or he can’t pitch at all. Buehler is a young guy who throws really hard, didn’t have his innings managed last year, and has TJ in his recent memory. Maeda’s medicals are infamously scary, Ryu’s had all kinds of injury problems, Urias is coming back from shoulder reconstruction, Santana has had rotator cuff problems, and Stewart was on the 60 day DL last year. The number of combinations where things can go wrong on the roster is about the same as any other team; it’s just that for the Dodgers, they’re concentrated heavily in the rotation.

The other, less serious issue is the bullpen. The reason why it’s less serious is because it’s just a general issue of volatility, with some upside and downside. Kelly and Jansen could be incredible, or they could be ordinary relievers. Baez has ranged from good to barely replacement level the last few years, Floro and Alexander could be good or replacement level, etc. I don’t think this is something to be too worried about, but the scenario where you get Joe Kelly and Kenley Jansen becoming unhittable in innings 8-9 wouldn’t surprise anyone, nor would it be surprising if Jansen struggles again this year and Kelly can’t find the strike zone.

BobbyJohn69
7 years ago

“Colorado’s the biggest threat to the Dodgers in the division, but they’re also a passive team apparently content with their holes.”

This makes me so angry.

Kevbot034
7 years ago
Reply to  BobbyJohn69

They are the best fit for Bryce Harper, I fully believe. But they are so distant, not even rumors are connecting them lol

Not saying he’d wanna sign there or anything anyway. Just from their holes + his skillset = a really great fit.

PhilMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  Kevbot034

But they already have Desmond and Murphy to play 1st base!

oozyalbies1
7 years ago
Reply to  Kevbot034

We’ve all been pining for them to finally let Dahl and Tapia play regularly. Now that Parra is gone and not clogging up the works, we finally have what we’ve been asking for.

oozyalbies1
7 years ago
Reply to  BobbyJohn69

I honestly don’t understand this quote from the article.

I know that things have been skewing more and more toward LOLrockies territory on this site, but where exactly are the holes? I had always viewed the indignation as being borne out of their stubbornness toward playing high-priced veterans and unwillingness to give their young players a chance to play regularly.

On the infield, they are near the top of the sport at 3B and SS. While the defense may take a hit with LeMahieu leaving, they still have Hampson, McMahon, Murphy and Desmond (if he’s not in the OF), to play on the right side. They also have Brendan Rodgers who should be near ready, even if he has lost some of his prospect shine.

In the outfield, you’ve got Blackmon and Dahl who should both be at least above average regulars, with potential to be significantly more than that. The opening is finally there for them to give Raimel Tapia meaningful burn. And they still have the aforementioned Desmond who you can plug in a corner They need at least one depth piece (perhaps a defensive-focused option for CF), but they can make this unit, which is reasonably four deep at the major league level, work.

The rotation obviously performed fantastically last year, even with their (arguably) most-talented pitcher, Jon Gray, severely under-performing. Again, they perhaps could use more depth, but who couldn’t? I didn’t expect a major splash here either.

And the industry has all mocked the considerable investment they made in their bullpen last year. I don’t think it’s unreasonable that they haven’t gone back to the well there, either. This might be the one area where they should have made at least some investment, but their sunk costs prevented them from doing so, which is on them.

Otherwise, where’s the hole? Catcher? Join the club.

johansantana17Member since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  oozyalbies1

Their offense is terrible and the bullpen is bad.

mikejuntMember
7 years ago
Reply to  oozyalbies1

The Rockies have trotted out replacement level players at 3 of the 4 corner positions (LF RF 1B) for multiple seasons.

A team that has made the postseason twice has gone through those seasons with the rotting corpses of Carlos Gonzalez, Gerrardo Parra, Mark Reynolds and Ian Desmond playing the most offensively demanding positions on the team.

The Rockies have done what they did because they got legit star-level performance from Nolan Arenado + another dude (Blackmon once, Story once) while filling 4/8 of their position player spots with dudes who both make a lot of money and are very, very bad.

Rockies Team Aggregate WAR by position, 2017+2018:

C 28
1B 30
2b 28
SS 14
3B 4
RF 26
CF 10
LF 29

I think the only way you can describe a playoff team getting literally worst-in-baseball quality output from 4/8 lineup positions for 2 seasons, then doing absolutely nothing about it, while still theoretically trying to compete, is ‘puzzling’.

How are the Rockies 28th in 2b production when LeMahieu has been worth 4 wins over that span in 1200 PA, you ask? Because the various utility dudes the Rockies have employed over that span are qualifiers at 2b, and have somehow been so awful they are worth -2 wins in 250 aggregate PA.

This is a team that has employed literally 4 major league average or better position players over the last two years, and a bunch of dudes who don’t deserve to play for the Orioles.

Over the last 2 seasons, Rockies 1b have been less valuable than Orioles 1b with Chris freaking Davis (-2.2 wins over 2 seasons). LF is also 1 win underwater. In fact, the aggregate value of Rockies 1b+2b+lf+rf+c is -negative war over the last 2 years-.

oozyalbies1
7 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

I understand the 2017-2018 performance, but I think you’re missing my overall point, which is that we perhaps should expect addition by subtraction.

Carlos Gonzalez is gone. So is Gerardo Parra. Mark Reynolds was actually pretty productive when in Colorado, and while he’s technically back now, he’s on a minor league deal and is likely their 3-4 option at 1B.

There is now regular playing time available for Dahl, Tapia and at least one of Hampson or McMahon. Desmond isn’t going anywhere with his contract, but given his right-handedness, perhaps he slips into the short-side of a platoon between 1B and RF. We can dream!

It’s not like the holes are expected to be filled by Pat Valaika and Mike Tauchman. They have former (and current) legitimate prospects who are (hopefully) finally going to get their shot.

As I see it, they’re no more of a fit for Bryce Harper than the Dodgers are, and we’ve otherwise previously chastised them for plugging “holes” with veteran stopgaps (see: 2018 Carlos Gonzalez). Perhaps Brantley or Pollock would have been a fit, at the expense of Tapia, and I can get behind that point of view. But I’m also not giving up on Tapia who still has only ~250 PAs in the MLB.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think that they’ll be world-beaters, and they should only compete with the Dodgers in earnest. I just don’t see glaring holes. Sure, they could use a bit more depth, but that’s true of all teams.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  oozyalbies1

So the Rockies have spent a lot of time developing their own internal version of WAR. This doesn’t set them apart from other teams by itself, but my sense is that they don’t share the general opinion on the home park effects, which is why they didn’t see many holes. After the last two seasons, I am starting to think they might be correct, and that last season’s run differential is their true talent.

The biggest problem the team has had is that it hasn’t spent money wisely. The extension for Blackmon was paying the free agent rate for an extension; the deal for Desmond was obviously a disaster at the time and turned out that way. The deals for the relievers all seem to have backfired. The team’s player development team seems pretty good, but they’ve made a lot of mistakes. If they’re strapped for cash now, it’s their own fault.

baltic wolfMember since 2016
7 years ago

I like the comp between Bellinger and Callison. I’m curious how Zips makes adjustments for different eras. Callison was a couple of years before my time (I’m 62) but he was one of my Dad’s favorite players.

pedeysRSox
7 years ago

C.C. Lee pitches in the CPBL now.

HandsomeBoyModel
7 years ago

The Dodgers will win the NL West and the playoffs are a crapshoot.

The Dodgers have beaten Bryce Harper in the playoffs and have been beaten by Steve Pearce and lost a game where the difference was a Brandon Woodruff homerun.

Kevbot034
7 years ago

Justin Turner is really a full win greater than Corey Seager? That’s interesting. Maybe I need to do some more looking into Turner.

oozyalbies1
7 years ago
Reply to  Kevbot034

That was the one that jumped out to me, too.

mikejuntMember
7 years ago
Reply to  Kevbot034

ZIPS is projecting Turner to be Turner but has discounted Seager a bit here due to the missed season and his performance in late 2017/early 2018 when injured but before the surgery. Seager’s career line is more like 290/360/500, zips has him at 290/345/450. In the first 4 months of 2017, Seager’s plate discipline had actually taken a step forward and he was walking over 10% of the time, and up to a .300/400/500 line.

Jetsy Extrano
7 years ago

J. R. Richard comp is pretty good if that’s with no blood clot.

Llewdor
7 years ago

I just noticed this, but why is WAR listed as a rate stat? WAR isn’t a rate.