2019 ZiPS Projections – Toronto Blue Jays
After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for more than half a decade. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the Toronto Blue Jays.
Batters
This is a bit awkward, as the most interesting Blue Jays batters essentially sit in the Bench and Prospects section. Probably the starkest difference between ZiPS and Steamer comes in the form of Lourdes Gurriel, Jr., who has such an unhappy projection from ZiPS that I went back and ran it a second time to make sure I hadn’t goofed anything. From his minor league hit data, ZiPS doesn’t think Gurriel will be able to maintain his minor-league BABIP. And the poor defensive projection isn’t just ZiPS overreacting to Gurriel’s fairly poor BIS and UZR defensive numbers; as rudimentary as even play-by-play minor league defensive measures are, Gurriel’s estimates come in below-average there as well.
The larger problem with the Blue Jay offense is that ZiPS essentially sees little upside remaining among the established players. Tulowitzki and Donaldson were both gone, and while they weren’t stars in 2018 by any stretch of the imagination (and Tulo didn’t even get in a game), they at least represented the possibility of star-level performance going into 2018. Smoak’s 2017 was probably his high-water mark and he’s now a designated hitter on the wrong side of 30, while Devon Travis is another year further away from when he looked like he could be a borderline star. Toronto was 10th in the AL in runs scored in 2018, but outside of the admittedly super-exciting addition of Vladimir Guerrero Jr., I just don’t see much of a hope for this unit doing much more than last year.
Pitchers
ZiPS isn’t completely down on Marcus Stroman and Aaron Sanchez, again seeing them as the most valuable pitchers on the staff, but you’d be a big dirty liar if you said you felt anywhere near as sunny about the pair as you did in any other preceding winter. Stroman’s command recovered somewhat after a miserable April and a six-week stint on the DL with shoulder fatigue, but his stuff looked as bland as boiled celery and the team shut him down after late-season blister issues. Given the trade rumors buzzing around Stroman, the right-hander may not even be in Toronto come April, and the possible in-house replacements are less than exciting. Sanchez and Stroman are also both groundballers on a team that doesn’t look to have particularly good infield defense.
The projected rotation just gets weaker from there. The Jays have been unable to effectively replace what Marco Estrada gave the team in 2015-2016 and now need to replace J.A. Happ’s performance as well. Realistically, Toronto needs to sign two mid-rotation starters in free agency to be in contention, something it doesn’t look like they’re planning to do. The original plan was for the team to contend while rebuilding, staying relevant until Vladito ‘n’ Friends made the majors, but this team looks more like the 2018 Orioles (coming into the season, that is) than it does even just a serious wild card contender.
To prove that I’m not being facetious, the little depth chart graphic for the O’s pitching going into 2018 gave Baltimore more projected pitching wins than ZiPS is giving the Blue Jays now.
Bench and Prospects
Now we get to the fun part! There was once an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation that took place on a planet of people who had been made impotent by some magic god-computer-robot that ran the planet. So to continue to develop their future prospects, they kidnapped the children from the Enterprise to replace themselves. The Jays farm system looks a lot like that, with the children of Vladimir Guerrero, Craig Biggio, Dante Bichette, Griffin Conine, and Dwight Smith all prospects. And of the real kind, not the Craig Griffey variety. And that’s just off the top of my head; perhaps I’m forgetting that Logan Warmoth is actually related to Mothra or something. I’m not sure which prospect is Wesley Crusher.
A lot of the farm system’s ranking is due to Guerrero, and while the Blue Jays will get some good players out of this group, I don’t think it’s deep enough to solve most of the team’s long-term roster issues, as in the case of the Padres or Braves, who have high-end prospects but also a quantity of other interesting minor leaguers who Toronto can’t match.
I don’t remember what happened in that episode of Star Trek. I’ll guess the people on the planet blew up their home because they were tired of Wesley. Toronto’s not that bad yet. But I think we’re a few months from the team dropping the pretense of contending-while-rebuilding, and even more aggressively shopping their veterans.
One pedantic note for 2019: for the WAR graphic, I’m using FanGraphs’ depth chart playing time, not the playing time ZiPS spits out, so there will be occasional differences in WAR totals.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site.
| Player | B | Age | PO | G | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | R | 20 | 3B | 114 | 441 | 67 | 127 | 25 | 2 | 19 | 70 | 42 | 68 | 4 | 3 |
| Randal Grichuk | R | 27 | RF | 141 | 476 | 70 | 116 | 31 | 3 | 29 | 78 | 33 | 157 | 4 | 2 |
| Kevin Pillar | R | 30 | CF | 145 | 539 | 66 | 140 | 35 | 2 | 13 | 54 | 23 | 96 | 14 | 4 |
| Justin Smoak | B | 32 | 1B | 147 | 451 | 60 | 105 | 24 | 1 | 24 | 71 | 64 | 140 | 0 | 1 |
| Danny Jansen | R | 24 | C | 111 | 382 | 51 | 93 | 22 | 1 | 10 | 47 | 40 | 75 | 4 | 1 |
| Bo Bichette | R | 21 | SS | 131 | 549 | 70 | 138 | 35 | 5 | 14 | 66 | 38 | 131 | 20 | 9 |
| Russell Martin | R | 36 | C | 94 | 312 | 44 | 66 | 12 | 0 | 12 | 38 | 49 | 95 | 1 | 3 |
| Yangervis Solarte | B | 31 | 3B | 122 | 452 | 51 | 115 | 25 | 1 | 15 | 64 | 31 | 67 | 1 | 2 |
| Kevin Smith | R | 22 | SS | 121 | 509 | 59 | 115 | 26 | 2 | 17 | 62 | 27 | 157 | 16 | 5 |
| Cavan Biggio | L | 24 | 2B | 123 | 457 | 58 | 91 | 17 | 3 | 15 | 55 | 62 | 179 | 11 | 7 |
| Santiago Espinal | R | 24 | SS | 125 | 490 | 53 | 120 | 19 | 3 | 7 | 39 | 30 | 89 | 9 | 5 |
| Jonathan Davis | R | 27 | CF | 132 | 484 | 58 | 104 | 22 | 4 | 10 | 45 | 40 | 139 | 18 | 6 |
| Kendrys Morales | B | 36 | DH | 125 | 434 | 50 | 108 | 19 | 0 | 20 | 68 | 41 | 103 | 1 | 1 |
| Teoscar Hernandez | R | 26 | LF | 135 | 498 | 70 | 117 | 27 | 4 | 22 | 65 | 42 | 165 | 11 | 7 |
| Billy McKinney | L | 24 | RF | 126 | 450 | 54 | 103 | 23 | 6 | 15 | 51 | 40 | 132 | 2 | 2 |
| Rowdy Tellez | L | 24 | 1B | 137 | 483 | 60 | 120 | 28 | 0 | 19 | 66 | 39 | 117 | 5 | 3 |
| Reese McGuire | L | 24 | C | 102 | 344 | 38 | 78 | 16 | 2 | 8 | 36 | 29 | 87 | 3 | 3 |
| Devon Travis | R | 28 | 2B | 109 | 405 | 50 | 105 | 24 | 2 | 11 | 50 | 20 | 77 | 4 | 2 |
| Dwight Smith Jr. | L | 26 | LF | 120 | 427 | 50 | 102 | 24 | 2 | 10 | 45 | 39 | 95 | 8 | 4 |
| Brandon Drury | R | 26 | 3B | 118 | 414 | 43 | 99 | 25 | 1 | 10 | 44 | 33 | 111 | 2 | 2 |
| Lourdes Gurriel | R | 25 | SS | 121 | 464 | 54 | 115 | 22 | 1 | 14 | 58 | 23 | 101 | 6 | 5 |
| Eric Sogard | L | 33 | 2B | 95 | 261 | 29 | 59 | 12 | 1 | 2 | 18 | 28 | 51 | 5 | 2 |
| Luke Maile | R | 28 | C | 78 | 239 | 24 | 48 | 12 | 1 | 4 | 24 | 20 | 69 | 1 | 0 |
| Anthony Alford | R | 24 | CF | 112 | 394 | 44 | 80 | 17 | 1 | 7 | 33 | 33 | 143 | 14 | 7 |
| Dalton Pompey | B | 26 | RF | 81 | 294 | 36 | 64 | 12 | 1 | 7 | 25 | 27 | 91 | 13 | 3 |
| Jason Leblebijian | R | 28 | 3B | 103 | 378 | 42 | 77 | 14 | 2 | 12 | 41 | 29 | 150 | 5 | 4 |
| Gift Ngoepe | B | 29 | SS | 85 | 259 | 27 | 43 | 11 | 2 | 6 | 23 | 27 | 124 | 2 | 3 |
| Darnell Sweeney | B | 28 | 2B | 108 | 382 | 44 | 81 | 17 | 3 | 11 | 42 | 34 | 143 | 9 | 8 |
| Joshua Palacios | L | 23 | CF | 121 | 505 | 52 | 114 | 21 | 4 | 7 | 46 | 35 | 151 | 10 | 9 |
| Richard Urena | L | 23 | SS | 134 | 483 | 44 | 108 | 24 | 3 | 7 | 44 | 23 | 122 | 4 | 4 |
| Connor Panas | L | 26 | RF | 106 | 380 | 40 | 75 | 13 | 2 | 12 | 39 | 25 | 129 | 3 | 3 |
| Forrest Wall | L | 23 | CF | 124 | 500 | 59 | 114 | 19 | 5 | 10 | 46 | 41 | 150 | 25 | 13 |
| Roemon Fields | L | 28 | CF | 111 | 407 | 39 | 87 | 10 | 3 | 2 | 24 | 26 | 110 | 25 | 12 |
| Max Pentecost | R | 26 | C | 82 | 328 | 32 | 69 | 12 | 1 | 9 | 35 | 13 | 105 | 1 | 1 |
| Juan Kelly | L | 24 | 1B | 115 | 422 | 46 | 86 | 20 | 2 | 12 | 46 | 38 | 150 | 3 | 3 |
| Ian Parmley | L | 29 | RF | 69 | 217 | 19 | 43 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 13 | 11 | 69 | 4 | 2 |
| Andrew Guillotte | R | 26 | LF | 113 | 398 | 41 | 80 | 16 | 1 | 4 | 27 | 31 | 107 | 10 | 7 |
| Player | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS+ | ISO | BABIP | RC/27 | Def | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | .288 | .352 | .483 | 123 | .195 | .305 | 6.4 | -4 | 2.7 | Bobby Doerr |
| Randal Grichuk | .244 | .300 | .504 | 112 | .261 | .300 | 5.4 | 5 | 2.4 | Keith Williams |
| Kevin Pillar | .260 | .295 | .404 | 87 | .145 | .295 | 4.5 | 9 | 2.1 | Garry Maddox |
| Justin Smoak | .233 | .329 | .450 | 109 | .217 | .282 | 5.2 | 2 | 1.8 | Roy Smalley |
| Danny Jansen | .243 | .332 | .385 | 94 | .141 | .279 | 4.6 | -2 | 1.6 | Gregg Zaun |
| Bo Bichette | .251 | .302 | .410 | 90 | .158 | .307 | 4.5 | -3 | 1.5 | Robin Yount |
| Russell Martin | .212 | .330 | .365 | 89 | .154 | .263 | 4.0 | 1 | 1.4 | Rick Dempsey |
| Yangervis Solarte | .254 | .306 | .414 | 93 | .159 | .270 | 4.5 | -2 | 1.0 | David Bell |
| Kevin Smith | .226 | .270 | .385 | 75 | .159 | .293 | 3.8 | 4 | 1.0 | Tommy Whiteman |
| Cavan Biggio | .199 | .297 | .348 | 74 | .149 | .289 | 3.4 | 7 | 1.0 | Dan Cholowsky |
| Santiago Espinal | .245 | .292 | .339 | 71 | .094 | .287 | 3.5 | 6 | 0.9 | Ramon Martinez |
| Jonathan Davis | .215 | .288 | .339 | 69 | .124 | .281 | 3.5 | 8 | 0.9 | Matt Rundels |
| Kendrys Morales | .249 | .317 | .431 | 100 | .182 | .283 | 4.9 | 0 | 0.9 | Not That Frank Thomas |
| Teoscar Hernandez | .235 | .298 | .438 | 96 | .203 | .305 | 4.5 | 0 | 0.9 | Scott Lydy |
| Billy McKinney | .229 | .295 | .407 | 88 | .178 | .290 | 4.2 | 5 | 0.8 | Matt Bowser |
| Rowdy Tellez | .248 | .306 | .424 | 95 | .176 | .291 | 4.6 | 2 | 0.8 | Daryle Ward |
| Reese McGuire | .227 | .292 | .355 | 74 | .128 | .281 | 3.5 | 2 | 0.7 | Gregg Zaun |
| Devon Travis | .259 | .298 | .410 | 89 | .151 | .297 | 4.4 | -3 | 0.7 | Jerry Adair |
| Dwight Smith Jr. | .239 | .304 | .375 | 83 | .136 | .286 | 4.0 | 4 | 0.5 | Ryan McGuire |
| Brandon Drury | .239 | .301 | .377 | 82 | .138 | .304 | 4.0 | -2 | 0.4 | Jamie D’Antona |
| Lourdes Gurriel | .248 | .288 | .390 | 81 | .142 | .289 | 3.9 | -6 | 0.2 | Rey Quinones |
| Eric Sogard | .226 | .304 | .303 | 66 | .077 | .274 | 3.2 | 3 | 0.2 | Dan Rohn |
| Luke Maile | .201 | .267 | .310 | 56 | .109 | .265 | 2.8 | 3 | 0.1 | Bill Dobrolsky |
| Anthony Alford | .203 | .275 | .305 | 57 | .102 | .299 | 2.8 | 7 | 0.0 | Julian Martinez |
| Dalton Pompey | .218 | .288 | .337 | 69 | .119 | .291 | 3.6 | 3 | 0.0 | Rashad Eldridge |
| Jason Leblebijian | .204 | .266 | .347 | 64 | .143 | .301 | 3.0 | 2 | -0.2 | Seth Bynum |
| Gift Ngoepe | .166 | .249 | .293 | 47 | .127 | .287 | 2.2 | 4 | -0.3 | Paul Hoover |
| Darnell Sweeney | .212 | .278 | .359 | 71 | .147 | .307 | 3.2 | -4 | -0.5 | Dan DeMent |
| Joshua Palacios | .226 | .280 | .325 | 64 | .099 | .308 | 3.0 | 1 | -0.6 | Rod Myers |
| Richard Urena | .224 | .257 | .329 | 57 | .106 | .285 | 2.9 | 1 | -0.6 | Gary Miller-Jones |
| Connor Panas | .197 | .260 | .337 | 60 | .139 | .264 | 2.9 | 5 | -0.7 | Garrick Haltiwanger |
| Forrest Wall | .228 | .292 | .346 | 72 | .118 | .306 | 3.5 | -9 | -0.7 | Ethan Faggett |
| Roemon Fields | .214 | .265 | .268 | 46 | .054 | .288 | 2.5 | 6 | -0.7 | Chad Durham |
| Max Pentecost | .210 | .243 | .335 | 55 | .125 | .280 | 2.8 | -4 | -0.9 | Johnny Cuevas |
| Juan Kelly | .204 | .272 | .346 | 66 | .142 | .285 | 3.1 | 1 | -1.0 | Kevin Burns |
| Ian Parmley | .198 | .239 | .253 | 34 | .055 | .286 | 2.0 | 4 | -1.0 | Jay Sitzman |
| Andrew Guillotte | .201 | .265 | .276 | 48 | .075 | .265 | 2.4 | 7 | -1.3 | Doug Livingston |
| Player | T | Age | W | L | ERA | G | GS | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Marcus Stroman | R | 28 | 9 | 7 | 4.08 | 24 | 24 | 139.0 | 144 | 63 | 13 | 43 | 104 |
| Aaron Sanchez | R | 26 | 6 | 6 | 4.17 | 24 | 24 | 127.3 | 124 | 59 | 11 | 60 | 98 |
| Ryan Borucki | L | 25 | 9 | 10 | 4.81 | 28 | 28 | 151.7 | 166 | 81 | 21 | 53 | 108 |
| Matt Shoemaker | R | 32 | 6 | 6 | 4.48 | 17 | 17 | 90.3 | 94 | 45 | 14 | 26 | 82 |
| Trent Thornton | R | 25 | 8 | 9 | 4.80 | 25 | 22 | 123.7 | 139 | 66 | 21 | 28 | 96 |
| Mike Hauschild | R | 29 | 7 | 8 | 4.73 | 22 | 21 | 110.3 | 120 | 58 | 13 | 47 | 84 |
| Ken Giles | R | 28 | 2 | 2 | 3.49 | 63 | 0 | 59.3 | 55 | 23 | 6 | 16 | 70 |
| Sean Reid-Foley | R | 23 | 10 | 12 | 4.92 | 29 | 29 | 142.7 | 144 | 78 | 22 | 67 | 137 |
| Jacob Waguespack | R | 25 | 6 | 6 | 4.48 | 31 | 16 | 96.3 | 102 | 48 | 9 | 48 | 72 |
| Ryan Tepera | R | 31 | 5 | 4 | 3.92 | 63 | 0 | 62.0 | 56 | 27 | 7 | 24 | 62 |
| Marco Estrada | R | 35 | 8 | 10 | 4.99 | 26 | 26 | 140.7 | 146 | 78 | 23 | 49 | 107 |
| David Paulino | R | 25 | 2 | 2 | 4.27 | 16 | 10 | 52.7 | 53 | 25 | 8 | 15 | 50 |
| Tyler Clippard | R | 34 | 4 | 3 | 4.05 | 66 | 0 | 60.0 | 52 | 27 | 9 | 24 | 69 |
| Clayton Richard | L | 35 | 7 | 8 | 4.89 | 25 | 22 | 130.7 | 152 | 71 | 18 | 42 | 86 |
| T.J. Zeuch | R | 23 | 8 | 10 | 5.13 | 25 | 25 | 133.3 | 153 | 76 | 19 | 43 | 73 |
| Tim Mayza | L | 27 | 4 | 4 | 4.21 | 54 | 0 | 62.0 | 58 | 29 | 7 | 31 | 65 |
| Jake Petricka | R | 31 | 2 | 2 | 4.22 | 52 | 0 | 59.7 | 65 | 28 | 6 | 19 | 43 |
| Patrick Murphy | R | 24 | 6 | 8 | 5.18 | 26 | 25 | 128.7 | 138 | 74 | 16 | 62 | 86 |
| Sam Gaviglio | R | 29 | 6 | 8 | 5.26 | 28 | 26 | 137.0 | 155 | 80 | 26 | 36 | 101 |
| Joe Biagini | R | 29 | 7 | 8 | 4.85 | 51 | 13 | 105.7 | 116 | 57 | 14 | 36 | 75 |
| Danny Barnes | R | 29 | 4 | 4 | 4.42 | 55 | 0 | 57.0 | 56 | 28 | 8 | 20 | 55 |
| Justin Shafer | R | 26 | 5 | 5 | 4.50 | 53 | 0 | 62.0 | 62 | 31 | 5 | 32 | 45 |
| Sam Moll | L | 27 | 2 | 2 | 4.24 | 40 | 0 | 46.7 | 50 | 22 | 5 | 17 | 36 |
| Zach Stewart | R | 32 | 4 | 5 | 5.23 | 19 | 14 | 82.7 | 96 | 48 | 13 | 30 | 51 |
| Travis Bergen | L | 25 | 3 | 3 | 4.41 | 33 | 0 | 32.7 | 32 | 16 | 4 | 14 | 30 |
| Elvis Luciano | R | 19 | 3 | 4 | 5.12 | 11 | 10 | 45.7 | 51 | 26 | 5 | 24 | 24 |
| Conor Fisk | R | 27 | 3 | 4 | 4.61 | 47 | 1 | 70.3 | 75 | 36 | 9 | 25 | 49 |
| Murphy Smith | R | 31 | 3 | 4 | 5.18 | 30 | 7 | 66.0 | 76 | 38 | 9 | 27 | 40 |
| Rhiner Cruz | R | 32 | 2 | 2 | 4.78 | 29 | 0 | 32.0 | 30 | 17 | 3 | 22 | 33 |
| Mark Leiter | R | 28 | 2 | 3 | 4.83 | 47 | 0 | 59.7 | 62 | 32 | 10 | 23 | 55 |
| Hector Perez | R | 23 | 4 | 5 | 5.40 | 27 | 18 | 100.0 | 98 | 60 | 12 | 84 | 96 |
| Thomas Pannone | L | 25 | 4 | 6 | 5.47 | 22 | 18 | 98.7 | 110 | 60 | 20 | 36 | 79 |
| Danny Young | L | 25 | 1 | 2 | 4.79 | 42 | 0 | 56.3 | 60 | 30 | 6 | 26 | 37 |
| Julian Merryweather | R | 27 | 5 | 7 | 5.50 | 18 | 16 | 86.7 | 103 | 53 | 16 | 27 | 62 |
| Zach G. Jackson | R | 24 | 2 | 3 | 4.97 | 45 | 0 | 54.3 | 46 | 30 | 4 | 55 | 60 |
| Corey Copping | R | 25 | 3 | 3 | 4.83 | 47 | 0 | 63.3 | 61 | 34 | 7 | 42 | 62 |
| Shawn Morimando | L | 26 | 6 | 9 | 5.58 | 22 | 21 | 109.7 | 130 | 68 | 18 | 47 | 73 |
| Matt Tracy | L | 30 | 3 | 4 | 5.62 | 18 | 12 | 64.0 | 75 | 40 | 11 | 28 | 42 |
| Taylor Guerrieri | R | 26 | 3 | 4 | 5.56 | 28 | 12 | 79.3 | 92 | 49 | 14 | 31 | 51 |
| Jake Fishman | L | 24 | 2 | 3 | 5.02 | 43 | 0 | 52.0 | 56 | 29 | 9 | 12 | 40 |
| Craig Breslow | L | 38 | 1 | 2 | 5.49 | 39 | 0 | 41.0 | 45 | 25 | 6 | 22 | 31 |
| Brandon Cumpton | R | 30 | 3 | 4 | 5.72 | 14 | 8 | 50.3 | 61 | 32 | 8 | 20 | 29 |
| Yennsy Diaz | R | 22 | 6 | 8 | 5.70 | 25 | 24 | 118.3 | 130 | 75 | 18 | 67 | 85 |
| Jon Harris | R | 25 | 7 | 11 | 5.74 | 26 | 26 | 131.7 | 158 | 84 | 25 | 43 | 80 |
| David Garner | R | 26 | 2 | 3 | 6.19 | 29 | 0 | 36.3 | 40 | 25 | 7 | 25 | 33 |
| Justin Dillon | R | 25 | 4 | 7 | 6.04 | 23 | 13 | 82.0 | 98 | 55 | 16 | 35 | 45 |
| Luis Santos | R | 28 | 4 | 7 | 6.10 | 32 | 12 | 87.0 | 100 | 59 | 20 | 35 | 74 |
| Player | TBF | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | BABIP | ERA+ | ERA- | FIP | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Marcus Stroman | 596 | 6.73 | 2.78 | 0.84 | .303 | 105 | 95 | 3.86 | 2.1 | Willard Nixon |
| Aaron Sanchez | 560 | 6.93 | 4.24 | 0.78 | .292 | 103 | 97 | 4.24 | 1.8 | Blue Moon Odom |
| Ryan Borucki | 670 | 6.41 | 3.15 | 1.25 | .302 | 89 | 112 | 4.73 | 1.1 | Thomas Biko |
| Matt Shoemaker | 389 | 8.17 | 2.59 | 1.39 | .304 | 96 | 105 | 4.35 | 1.0 | Brian Lawrence |
| Trent Thornton | 536 | 6.99 | 2.04 | 1.53 | .307 | 89 | 112 | 4.65 | 0.9 | Tim Kester |
| Mike Hauschild | 497 | 6.85 | 3.83 | 1.06 | .309 | 91 | 110 | 4.63 | 0.9 | Don Schwall |
| Ken Giles | 246 | 10.62 | 2.43 | 0.91 | .320 | 119 | 84 | 2.96 | 0.9 | Darren Holmes |
| Sean Reid-Foley | 636 | 8.64 | 4.23 | 1.39 | .303 | 87 | 115 | 4.79 | 0.9 | Darin Blood |
| Jacob Waguespack | 438 | 6.73 | 4.48 | 0.84 | .307 | 93 | 108 | 4.55 | 0.8 | Don Stanhouse |
| Ryan Tepera | 267 | 9.00 | 3.48 | 1.02 | .290 | 109 | 91 | 4.02 | 0.7 | Tom Hume |
| Marco Estrada | 608 | 6.85 | 3.14 | 1.47 | .288 | 86 | 116 | 4.84 | 0.7 | Mike Moore |
| David Paulino | 225 | 8.54 | 2.56 | 1.37 | .302 | 100 | 100 | 4.25 | 0.7 | Hector Fajardo |
| Tyler Clippard | 254 | 10.35 | 3.60 | 1.35 | .287 | 106 | 95 | 4.10 | 0.6 | Steve Bedrosian |
| Clayton Richard | 582 | 5.92 | 2.89 | 1.24 | .312 | 85 | 118 | 4.73 | 0.6 | Mark Redman |
| T.J. Zeuch | 592 | 4.93 | 2.90 | 1.28 | .298 | 84 | 120 | 5.03 | 0.5 | Jason Karnuth |
| Tim Mayza | 274 | 9.44 | 4.50 | 1.02 | .304 | 102 | 98 | 4.17 | 0.5 | Brian Snyder |
| Jake Petricka | 261 | 6.49 | 2.87 | 0.91 | .311 | 101 | 99 | 4.12 | 0.4 | Frank Linzy |
| Patrick Murphy | 584 | 6.02 | 4.34 | 1.12 | .296 | 83 | 121 | 5.06 | 0.4 | Scott Holman |
| Sam Gaviglio | 597 | 6.64 | 2.36 | 1.71 | .301 | 82 | 123 | 5.06 | 0.3 | Clay Condrey |
| Joe Biagini | 465 | 6.39 | 3.07 | 1.19 | .304 | 86 | 117 | 4.59 | 0.3 | Tommie Sisk |
| Danny Barnes | 245 | 8.68 | 3.16 | 1.26 | .300 | 97 | 103 | 4.20 | 0.3 | Guillermo Mota |
| Justin Shafer | 279 | 6.53 | 4.65 | 0.73 | .295 | 95 | 105 | 4.49 | 0.3 | Hal Reniff |
| Sam Moll | 205 | 6.94 | 3.28 | 0.96 | .310 | 98 | 102 | 4.22 | 0.3 | Jim Crawford |
| Zach Stewart | 372 | 5.55 | 3.27 | 1.42 | .304 | 82 | 122 | 5.23 | 0.2 | Dick Fowler |
| Travis Bergen | 144 | 8.27 | 3.86 | 1.10 | .298 | 97 | 103 | 4.37 | 0.2 | Chris Marchok |
| Elvis Luciano | 213 | 4.73 | 4.73 | 0.99 | .297 | 84 | 119 | 5.43 | 0.2 | Chris Zachary |
| Conor Fisk | 309 | 6.27 | 3.20 | 1.15 | .297 | 90 | 111 | 4.66 | 0.2 | Mike Proly |
| Murphy Smith | 300 | 5.45 | 3.68 | 1.23 | .305 | 83 | 121 | 5.12 | 0.1 | Karl Drews |
| Rhiner Cruz | 148 | 9.28 | 6.19 | 0.84 | .307 | 90 | 112 | 4.56 | 0.0 | Moe Burtschy |
| Mark Leiter | 264 | 8.30 | 3.47 | 1.51 | .302 | 89 | 113 | 4.84 | 0.0 | Kirk Bullinger |
| Hector Perez | 481 | 8.64 | 7.56 | 1.08 | .304 | 79 | 126 | 5.49 | 0.0 | John D’Acquisto |
| Thomas Pannone | 441 | 7.21 | 3.28 | 1.82 | .300 | 78 | 128 | 5.46 | 0.0 | Dale Polley |
| Danny Young | 254 | 5.91 | 4.15 | 0.96 | .297 | 87 | 115 | 4.77 | 0.0 | Mike Cosgrove |
| Julian Merryweather | 388 | 6.44 | 2.80 | 1.66 | .313 | 78 | 128 | 5.23 | 0.0 | Mark Johnson |
| Zach G. Jackson | 263 | 9.94 | 9.11 | 0.66 | .298 | 86 | 116 | 5.10 | -0.1 | Joe Hudson |
| Corey Copping | 293 | 8.81 | 5.97 | 0.99 | .303 | 86 | 116 | 4.81 | -0.1 | Marc Pisciotta |
| Shawn Morimando | 503 | 5.99 | 3.86 | 1.48 | .312 | 77 | 130 | 5.40 | -0.1 | Rich Rundles |
| Matt Tracy | 293 | 5.91 | 3.94 | 1.55 | .306 | 76 | 131 | 5.53 | -0.1 | Roger Deago |
| Taylor Guerrieri | 360 | 5.79 | 3.52 | 1.59 | .301 | 77 | 130 | 5.52 | -0.2 | Eric Stone |
| Jake Fishman | 223 | 6.92 | 2.08 | 1.56 | .296 | 83 | 121 | 4.73 | -0.2 | Roberto Rivera |
| Craig Breslow | 189 | 6.80 | 4.83 | 1.32 | .305 | 78 | 128 | 5.30 | -0.3 | Dave Giusti |
| Brandon Cumpton | 231 | 5.19 | 3.58 | 1.43 | .310 | 73 | 138 | 5.43 | -0.3 | Bennie Daniels |
| Yennsy Diaz | 551 | 6.46 | 5.10 | 1.37 | .300 | 75 | 133 | 5.59 | -0.3 | Brett Laxton |
| Jon Harris | 593 | 5.47 | 2.94 | 1.71 | .304 | 75 | 134 | 5.57 | -0.4 | Jon Asahina |
| David Garner | 174 | 8.17 | 6.19 | 1.73 | .311 | 67 | 149 | 6.15 | -0.6 | Rick Greene |
| Justin Dillon | 377 | 4.94 | 3.84 | 1.76 | .297 | 71 | 141 | 6.05 | -0.6 | Julien Tucker |
| Luis Santos | 394 | 7.66 | 3.62 | 2.07 | .307 | 70 | 142 | 5.78 | -0.7 | Wes Wilkerson |
Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2019. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.
Players are listed with their most recent teams, unless I have made a mistake. This is very possible, as a lot of minor-league signings go generally unreported in the offseason.
ZiPS’ projections are based on the American League having a 4.29 ERA and the National League having a 4.15 ERA.
Players who are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information, and a computer isn’t the tool that should project the injury status of, for example, a pitcher who has had Tommy John surgery.
Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by me, Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in full release of ZiPS. Finally, I will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on a depth chart to produce projected team WAR.
Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
Why are all the Jays catchers of the future compared to Gregg Zaun 🙁 ?
Two different Gregg Zaun comps? Oh dear.
Definitely taking the over on Vlad Jr.’s projection
Yes, but what you fail to consider is that, in 2019, it is good to be bad. Go Jays!
Kendrys Morales comp: Not That Frank Thomas. Checks out
In regards to Gurriel, I wonder if the 2017 minor league performance (coming off a calendar year off from competitive baseball) is causing a bit of noise in the projection.
Steamer and ZiPS are far apart on Gurriel. Steamer sees 50 XBH and .266/.301/.428 en route to 2.1 WAR.
Yep. A stark contrast. I’m not sure the weighting of prior minor league performance, and what kind of influence ’17 has on each respective projection system, but I imagine its a contributing factor to the difference.
The guy I think the systems are underweighting is Drury, who’s been around a while but is only entering his age 26 season. His 2018 was very weird, in between migraines and a previously undiagnosed broken hand on his way to Toronto (ironic, in that the Yankees appeared to be caught off guard by his migraine issues, and Toronto was caught off guard by the hand). There’s clearly some future injury risk here, but at the same time, Drury returned to rake in AAA where he languished behind Andujar and Torreys for much of the year, and his previous baseline was 1000 PA at about .325 OBP/.455 SLG. But because his MLB sample was so bad in very limited time last year, both ZiPS and Steamer have downgraded his baseline to a very low .600s player, which isn’t a good MLB player if he can’t play short, or can’t provide above average D at 2B or 3B. The risk here to me is that the migraines are ongoing and he can’t regain vision at the plate. If a long offseason has helped him address the issue, I’m very comfortably over on the projected batting line. I think he’s a 1.5 WAR player with the talent for a 3 win season among his upcoming age 26-28 years.
I think the optimism around Drury is mostly that “smart front offices keep trading for him; they know what they are doing; therefore, he must have untapped upside.” I don’t know where this is coming from. I liked the deal for the Yankees because he could approximate a starter at either 2B or 3B for really cheap, but he doesn’t have a track record of power, low levels of strikeouts, getting on base, defense, or baserunning, nor is he thought of as “toolsy.” And he makes no sense for the Blue Jays, where he is definitely not the future, and who have a bunch of interesting players at 2B and 3B who are likely ready at some point in 2019. The best case scenario for the Blue Jays is that they play him, he starts out hot, and they trade him for something useful mid-season before he reverts back to being a guy who approximates a starter at 2B or 3B.
wOBA vs. xwOBA 2016-2018
Year/wOBA/xwOBA
2016/.335/.314
2017/.325/.317
2018/.237/.313
Steamer projects .244/.307/.390 – .697 OPS, .303 wOBA & 90 wRC+
ZIPS projects .239/.301/.377- .678 OPS & 82 OPS+
Thats not a very big difference actually.
I’m very much on team-why-are-the-Blue-Jays-trying-to-win-now-train, but it’s pretty obvious that this team is going to be a whole heck of a lot better in 2020 than in 2019. 2020 is the year that Vlad Jr and Bichette (and Biggio) will be around for the whole year. Between that and hopefully something from Alford and Jansen, they have a real shot to have a good position player core at that point.
The problem is that the pitching is nowhere near as deep and at the lower levels. Reid-Foley is probably ready now, and Zeuch will probably be ready for a full year in 2020, but Pearson has pitched less than 2 innings above A-short, and Hector Perez has reliever written all over him. And since they’re pitchers, most of them are going to fail/destroy their arms anyway.
It’s hard to escape the conclusion that they really missed the boat by waiting on trading Donaldson, by swapping Happ for low-end MLB talent, not trading Pillar and Smoak (it may not be too late for them on this one), by getting back Giles as the major return for Osuna (of course, that may be literally the only deal they had! but it still doesn’t make a lot of sense that they held him that long). This is a team that should be selling as much as they can–Pillar and Grichuk and Smoak sooner rather than later, and Stroman/Sanchez/Drury/Giles/Martin if they ever rebuild any value. The team should belong to guys like Tellez, McKinney, Alford, and Hernandez, because they need to see if they’re any good. And frankly, I’m not sure that the Pillar/Grichuk/Smoak types that much better than them, anyway.
That pitching staff is pretty abysmal. You can maybe squint and see a couple guys overachieve these projections (Stroman to me is one) but man. Not great
I agree that it is abysmal.
That being said, Borucki is projected for 1.1WAR after generating 1.7 in a half a season last year so you don’t need to squint that hard. Any of the young guys has a chance to break out, their projections are all pretty dire so the bar is not high. I’m sure with the blister contagion we should see several of the young guys get a shot and one will end up sticking because of stronger than projected performance.
i like borucki a lot personally, but this projection didnt help my enthusiasm
His comp is a guy that peaked in AA ball in the early 80’s. Are we using single A MLE’s from the early 80’s?
Both Zips and Steamer have his HR/9 rate inflated dramatically when compared to his historical performance. 1.29 and 1.25, respectively for a guy who produced a 0.65 HR/9 in 97 MLB innings in 2018, and did not allow over 0.70 in any of his full stops in the minors. A career 0.58 HR/9 FWIW. I’ll take the over for his WAR projection.
Jeff Conine is the son, Griffin Conine is the father.
Gregg Zaun the holy spirit?
Robin Yount as a top comp for Bo Bichette? That’s pretty encouraging! Too bad Bichette can’t grow a bad-ass moustache yet.
As a Jays fan….
YUCKKKKKK I’ma sleep for 2 seasons
I wouldn’t sleep through 2020…frankly, from June 2019 onward it will be, at the very least, entertaining.
I’m kinda disappointed Guerriero’s comp is “only” Bobby Doerr instead of Honus Wagner or somebody.
Why not Babe Ruth? We must have AAA data on him?
Dick Allen? Miguel Cabrera? Harmon Killebrew? Frank Robinson? Let’s not get carried away with the idea that Vlad Jr’s gonna play shortstop… 🙂
I understand these projections are intended to provide some guidance for what to expect in the coming season, but it is important to take them with a huge grain of salt. Not only are there likely more changes to come before the season starts for many teams but there is also no way to be certain of what players will do. Baseball proves this every season.
At the beginning of last season everyone was saying over and over the Jays were a team with no power, even Blue Jays broadcasters and others that cover Toronto sports. Then the Jays finished third in the AL in HRs (fifth in MLB) and fourth in the AL in ISO (again fifth in MLB). All without a healthy Donaldson or Tulo in the lineup.
The Jays were a top ten team in MLB by wRC+ in the second half, when they were playing most of the guys they will use this coming season. This is before the introduction of Vlad Jr. While there are questions about the starting pitching those are mainly about health, which applies to pretty much every team if you were paying attention last season.
There’s a pretty good chance what people think they are seeing from the roster now is not what will actually transpire on the field. The team has a variety of new coaches, an infusion of young talent that is developing and some proven contributors to build around. Shame they couldn’t convince Happ to return but it isn’t the end of the world.
The biggest area of improvement to look for from the Jays this season will be defense; as Dan rightly notes in his comments above it was a huge problem last season. The good news is that is an area the Jays can turn around quickly, and if they do it will have a huge beneficial impact on their pitching.
Hernandez has apparently been working on his defense during the offseason and we’ll see if Gurriel was impacted by adjusting to playing so many games on turf for the first time. Pillar and Grichuk are fine in the outfield, Jansen will be a solid catcher. Smoak is a better defensive 1B than he is given credit for and the Jays will find a solid 2B from Travis/Drury. Vlad Jr is expected to be ok at third, we’ll see if that’s true but his bat is easily valuable enough to deal with some bumps. Shame they couldn’t keep Diaz but Thornton gives them another option in a key area of need.
It is clearly a brutal division again this season but I’ll take the over on the Jays, Dan. They should be able to handle the weaker matchups in the Central and West and might hold their own against the East better than people expect. It will be hard to do worse than they did against the big three divisional opponents last season. Not missing their three best pitchers for half of the season and improved defense will help close the gap.
A’s look to take a step back as do the Mariners, even the Indians are selling. The Angels haven’t impressed so far and the Twins look middle of the road again. As it stands at this moment – more changes are coming – the key opponent for the Jays in the second wild card is the Rays. They have to improve their game against that team and new coaching/improved defense will be the key. Meanwhile the Rays will have the same hurdle as the Jays in their divisional opponents.
Will be fun to watch, especially once Vlad joins the lineup.
I quite enjoyed this post, even though I find it very difficult to believe the Blue Jays will be anything other than dire this season. It’s nice to have some reasonably articulated reasons for optimism, even if I don’t share the positive outlook.
Look at it this way, the Jays had pretty much everything you can imagine stacked against them last season – three of the toughest teams in baseball in their division, two of their best starters are injured and not in prime shape even when they pitched, their one consistent starter got traded away, their stud closer was unexpectedly suspended for almost the whole first half and later traded, the all star third baseman never got healthy and they ended up trading a bunch of other valuable contributors and basically played a roster of mostly rookies in the second half with a merry-go-round of rotating players in the infield. No shocker their defense suffered, and on top of that teams like the As and Mariners pop up as surprise contenders.
Even with all of that crap happening in one season the Jays still finished with 73 wins. They probably won’t see the same level of turnover and inconsistent lineups this season, those rookies gained some valuable experience and they add a very significant bat to the lineup early in the season. I’d argue the rebuild happened last year and this season we start to see the benefits. Might not work out to a playoff spot, particularly if key starters like Stroman and Sanchez don’t bounce back, but otherwise I suspect they are better than people are giving them credit for. Which is fine, that’s what makes baseball fun to watch.
I’m all in on Danny Jansen, that projection looks really light overall. I’m more of a Ted Simmons comp for him batting wise. I don’t think defensively he holds a candle to Ted but still…it’s better than Greg Zaun. Tellez is interesting from a fantasy area only, I know that BB/K rate in 100 or so ABs looks bad but it was much different in AAA.
Not much pitching though on this team, but I suppose you never know!
FWIW, Steamer projects him for about 2 wins next year in about 350 PAs. Logically, that’s probably pretty optimistic, but still closer to what he’ll do than Greg Zaun. He’s likely a catcher who is an above-average hitter for the league and an average defender at his position. And he doesn’t have to be too much better than the steamer projection this year to be an all-star.