2021 ZiPS Projections: Chicago White Sox
After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for nine years. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the Chicago White Sox.
Batters
The White Sox entered 2020 projected slightly behind the Indians and Twins, needing some breakouts to take the next step. And that’s largely what they did. A miserable stretch to end the season that likely cost him the AL Rookie of the Year award aside, Luis Robert met reasonable expectations with his bat and more than exceeded them defensively. B.J. Upton may not blow anyone away for his top comp, but the next one on the list is Bernie Williams, who didn’t divebomb in his late 20s. And while I’m still not wild about his desire to play the field, Eloy Jiménez hit like he needed to this season and he’s just a skosh of offense plus a change of position away from being star-level. He could very easily get there anyway; his 80th percentile projection is 3.8 WAR and a 151 OPS+.
Tim Anderson is a tricky player for a projection system to deal with. The fundamentals say that he should be one of the top BABIP hitters in baseball, but there’s a difference between that threshold and the .395 he put up across 2019 and ’20. That’s a real high-wire act and ZiPS isn’t ready to go 20 points further than Ty Cobb’s all-time mark, the best in baseball since 1901. (Amusingly, if you set the threshold since 1901 at just 1000 PA, Jorge Alfaro is the all-time leader.) Anderson has crept up to a .347 BABIP projection, but he’ll have to keep defying the baseball gods to push any further in ZiPS.
Now that the White Sox are a legitimate contender, the calculus for overpaying James McCann to be a backup-plus — thus pushing Yasmani Grandal to some DH at-bats to keep him fresh — changes significantly. For a team in the middle of a rebuild, it’s an awkward luxury, but the White Sox are now in a position where they ought to absorb less risk. Zack Collins — or some veteran stopgap — would be perfectly fine as a backup, but I think the White Sox ought to retain more depth here. Grandal not having as many innings behind the plate as the average 32-year-old catcher isn’t quite the same thing as having 22-year-old knees.
The Twins are far from a perfect team and the Indians no longer have Mike Clevinger (even though he’s injured, the performance is still gone) and seem nearly certain to trade Francisco Lindor this offseason, so the White Sox enter 2021 in a strong position. It’s time to make a real addition in right; the speculative “let’s see what happens by giving Nomar Mazara a change of uniform” idea seems a lot less fitting this time around. If I were the White Sox, I’d pursue one of Houston’s free agent outfielders — and I don’t mean Josh Reddick — with the same gusto with which ownership pursued a managerial hire that makes one wonder if it’s 1985.
Lastly, while this might be a disappointing projection for MVP José Abreu after having arguably the best season of his career nearly out of nowhere, but he’s still a 34-year-old first baseman who appeared in steep decline before the abbreviated 2020 campaign.
Pitchers
Lucas Giolito did it again! All the ZiPS aren’t in, but he’s almost certainly going to project as one of the top 10 pitchers in baseball and one of the leading early picks for the AL Cy Young award. ZiPS was already quite satisfied with his changes in 2019 and nothing he did in 2020 changed that outlook. The team’s getting close to the point where they really need to start talking about a long-term deal.
Dallas Keuchel ain’t keeping his crazy-low HR/9 of 2020, but ZiPS still thinks he’ll keep it low enough thanks to the system’s inclusion of Statcast data, which it has used for a few years. Keuchel was one of my favorite signings last offseason despite the warning signs present in his more traditional stats (declining velocity in the danger zone, moving to a homer-friendly park) and he remains so.
ZiPS is quite optimistic about Dylan Cease getting his strikeouts back. From his contact, velocity, and movement data, Cease had the second-largest difference in actual vs. expected strikeouts in baseball, striking out 14 fewer batters than ZiPS thought his pitching deserved, behind only Ryan Yarbrough.
The successful return of Dane Dunning and a (hopefully) similar experience for Michael Kopech makes the depth chart for the ZiPS rotation projection deeper than in recent years. The team’s no longer counting too much on Reynaldo López, who can likely return to being a serviceable innings-eater despite a miserable 2020. López is technically a non-tender candidate, but he shouldn’t be a huge cost in what is just his first year of arbitration. Less likely to return is Carlos Rodón.
Still, this general optimism shouldn’t keep the team from bringing in a veteran or two to fatten up the starting five.
One pedantic note for 2021: For the WAR graphic, I’m using FanGraphs’ depth charts playing time, not the playing time ZiPS spits out, so there will be occasional differences in WAR totals.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here.
| Player | B | Age | PO | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yasmani Grandal | B | 32 | C | 522 | 437 | 62 | 99 | 19 | 1 | 23 | 74 | 78 | 142 | 2 | 1 |
| Luis Robert | R | 23 | CF | 580 | 535 | 79 | 141 | 24 | 6 | 27 | 89 | 32 | 167 | 24 | 8 |
| Yoan Moncada | B | 26 | 3B | 609 | 545 | 81 | 142 | 26 | 5 | 24 | 81 | 57 | 183 | 9 | 4 |
| Tim Anderson | R | 28 | SS | 604 | 577 | 91 | 168 | 31 | 3 | 23 | 69 | 20 | 137 | 18 | 5 |
| Eloy Jiménez | R | 24 | LF | 567 | 529 | 72 | 151 | 30 | 2 | 34 | 106 | 32 | 136 | 0 | 0 |
| José Abreu | R | 34 | 1B | 589 | 540 | 74 | 148 | 32 | 2 | 29 | 112 | 33 | 134 | 1 | 1 |
| Nick Madrigal | R | 24 | 2B | 500 | 462 | 49 | 134 | 20 | 2 | 4 | 37 | 24 | 26 | 17 | 10 |
| Danny Mendick | R | 27 | 2B | 532 | 469 | 60 | 111 | 19 | 2 | 13 | 51 | 54 | 115 | 12 | 7 |
| James McCann | R | 31 | C | 424 | 386 | 47 | 94 | 15 | 1 | 15 | 53 | 27 | 121 | 2 | 2 |
| Leury García | B | 30 | CF | 484 | 453 | 59 | 121 | 18 | 3 | 10 | 45 | 18 | 103 | 10 | 4 |
| Yermín Mercedes | R | 28 | C | 384 | 349 | 44 | 85 | 15 | 1 | 14 | 50 | 27 | 86 | 2 | 1 |
| Adam Engel | R | 29 | CF | 449 | 414 | 47 | 94 | 19 | 4 | 11 | 43 | 23 | 127 | 10 | 4 |
| Nomar Mazara | L | 26 | RF | 516 | 471 | 58 | 117 | 23 | 1 | 18 | 74 | 36 | 138 | 2 | 1 |
| Edwin Encarnación | R | 38 | DH | 429 | 377 | 56 | 77 | 13 | 0 | 25 | 71 | 41 | 116 | 0 | 0 |
| Zack Collins | L | 26 | C | 427 | 358 | 48 | 68 | 15 | 1 | 14 | 50 | 62 | 157 | 1 | 0 |
| Jarrod Dyson | L | 36 | CF | 310 | 277 | 42 | 60 | 6 | 2 | 4 | 22 | 27 | 56 | 24 | 3 |
| Tim Beckham | R | 31 | SS | 427 | 394 | 49 | 94 | 18 | 2 | 17 | 60 | 28 | 125 | 3 | 4 |
| Xavier Fernández | R | 25 | C | 335 | 312 | 36 | 74 | 14 | 0 | 10 | 36 | 18 | 61 | 2 | 2 |
| Andrew Vaughn | R | 23 | 1B | 540 | 481 | 60 | 113 | 28 | 0 | 13 | 54 | 41 | 114 | 0 | 3 |
| Jake Burger | R | 25 | 3B | 525 | 469 | 61 | 106 | 16 | 1 | 14 | 58 | 39 | 101 | 2 | 2 |
| Jaycob Brugman | L | 29 | RF | 372 | 340 | 40 | 78 | 14 | 2 | 14 | 47 | 29 | 108 | 2 | 1 |
| Luis González | L | 25 | CF | 485 | 441 | 50 | 96 | 18 | 3 | 10 | 45 | 34 | 123 | 8 | 6 |
| Seby Zavala | R | 27 | C | 405 | 373 | 43 | 75 | 14 | 0 | 15 | 50 | 25 | 159 | 1 | 1 |
| Nicky Delmonico | L | 28 | LF | 288 | 257 | 28 | 57 | 11 | 2 | 8 | 35 | 27 | 70 | 2 | 1 |
| Laz Rivera | R | 26 | SS | 497 | 462 | 46 | 104 | 19 | 1 | 6 | 37 | 14 | 110 | 9 | 9 |
| Gavin Sheets | L | 25 | 1B | 535 | 484 | 56 | 109 | 17 | 1 | 12 | 61 | 43 | 125 | 2 | 1 |
| Blake Rutherford | L | 24 | RF | 518 | 484 | 50 | 110 | 19 | 5 | 9 | 49 | 30 | 146 | 8 | 5 |
| Johan Cruz | R | 25 | SS | 336 | 312 | 28 | 58 | 10 | 1 | 5 | 26 | 18 | 108 | 3 | 2 |
| Zach Remillard | R | 27 | SS | 485 | 451 | 43 | 87 | 14 | 1 | 9 | 38 | 25 | 168 | 4 | 4 |
| Micker Adolfo | R | 24 | RF | 376 | 333 | 38 | 60 | 15 | 1 | 10 | 37 | 33 | 160 | 1 | 7 |
| Tyler Frost | L | 25 | RF | 462 | 424 | 44 | 76 | 14 | 3 | 13 | 44 | 27 | 185 | 5 | 5 |
| Player | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS+ | ISO | BABIP | RC/27 | Def | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yasmani Grandal | .227 | .345 | .432 | 111 | .206 | .279 | 5.2 | 7 | 3.6 | Mickey Tettleton |
| Luis Robert | .264 | .312 | .482 | 113 | .219 | .334 | 5.7 | 5 | 3.3 | B.J. Upton |
| Yoan Moncada | .261 | .333 | .459 | 114 | .198 | .349 | 5.6 | 2 | 3.1 | Kevin Seitzer |
| Tim Anderson | .291 | .318 | .475 | 113 | .184 | .348 | 5.9 | -7 | 2.6 | Lou Boudreau |
| Eloy Jiménez | .285 | .328 | .543 | 132 | .257 | .326 | 6.7 | -7 | 2.5 | Sixto Lezcano |
| José Abreu | .274 | .324 | .502 | 121 | .228 | .316 | 6.0 | -2 | 2.0 | Bob Watson |
| Nick Madrigal | .290 | .335 | .368 | 93 | .078 | .301 | 4.6 | 6 | 1.7 | Cass Michaels |
| Danny Mendick | .237 | .318 | .369 | 88 | .132 | .287 | 4.1 | 6 | 1.6 | Callix Crabbe |
| James McCann | .244 | .304 | .404 | 92 | .161 | .316 | 4.3 | 1 | 1.3 | Ellie Rodriguez |
| Leury García | .267 | .301 | .386 | 86 | .119 | .326 | 4.3 | 1 | 0.9 | Jerry Mumphrey |
| Yermín Mercedes | .244 | .299 | .413 | 92 | .169 | .285 | 4.4 | -6 | 0.6 | Erik Pappas |
| Adam Engel | .227 | .283 | .372 | 77 | .145 | .301 | 3.7 | 3 | 0.5 | James Mouton |
| Nomar Mazara | .248 | .308 | .416 | 96 | .168 | .314 | 4.6 | -1 | 0.5 | Jeremy Giambi |
| Edwin Encarnación | .204 | .294 | .438 | 96 | .233 | .220 | 4.4 | 0 | 0.4 | Don Baylor |
| Zack Collins | .190 | .310 | .355 | 82 | .165 | .289 | 3.7 | -5 | 0.4 | Doug Newstrom |
| Jarrod Dyson | .217 | .292 | .296 | 62 | .079 | .258 | 3.7 | 4 | 0.4 | Mike Kingery |
| Tim Beckham | .239 | .293 | .424 | 93 | .185 | .306 | 4.3 | -8 | 0.3 | Jeff Blauser |
| Xavier Fernández | .237 | .281 | .378 | 78 | .141 | .266 | 3.7 | -2 | 0.2 | Orlando Mercado |
| Andrew Vaughn | .235 | .311 | .374 | 87 | .139 | .282 | 4.0 | 1 | 0.0 | Mike Carp |
| Jake Burger | .226 | .301 | .354 | 79 | .128 | .260 | 3.7 | -3 | 0.0 | Rich Paz |
| Jaycob Brugman | .229 | .293 | .406 | 88 | .176 | .294 | 4.2 | -3 | -0.2 | Warren Newson |
| Luis González | .218 | .277 | .340 | 68 | .122 | .279 | 3.2 | 3 | -0.2 | Jim Gosger |
| Seby Zavala | .201 | .257 | .359 | 66 | .158 | .302 | 3.1 | -2 | -0.3 | John Gibbons |
| Nicky Delmonico | .222 | .302 | .374 | 84 | .152 | .274 | 3.9 | -4 | -0.4 | Michael Tullier |
| Laz Rivera | .225 | .266 | .310 | 57 | .084 | .283 | 2.7 | 3 | -0.7 | Brian Grebeck |
| Gavin Sheets | .225 | .292 | .339 | 72 | .114 | .280 | 3.4 | 2 | -0.8 | Brett Roneberg |
| Blake Rutherford | .227 | .272 | .343 | 67 | .116 | .307 | 3.2 | 3 | -1.1 | Andy Tomberlin |
| Johan Cruz | .186 | .231 | .272 | 37 | .087 | .266 | 2.1 | 2 | -1.2 | Lauro Felix |
| Zach Remillard | .193 | .241 | .288 | 44 | .095 | .285 | 2.2 | 3 | -1.4 | Darrin Duffy |
| Micker Adolfo | .180 | .266 | .321 | 60 | .141 | .307 | 2.4 | -5 | -1.8 | Scott Morgan |
| Tyler Frost | .179 | .237 | .318 | 50 | .139 | .279 | 2.4 | -3 | -2.4 | Andy Abad |
| Player | T | Age | W | L | ERA | G | GS | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO | FIP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lucas Giolito | R | 26 | 16 | 7 | 3.00 | 30 | 30 | 180.0 | 129 | 60 | 21 | 56 | 248 | 2.94 |
| Dallas Keuchel | L | 33 | 12 | 8 | 3.99 | 26 | 26 | 153.3 | 146 | 68 | 20 | 47 | 126 | 4.23 |
| Dylan Cease | R | 25 | 10 | 9 | 4.48 | 31 | 30 | 144.7 | 137 | 72 | 20 | 72 | 146 | 4.60 |
| Gio González | L | 35 | 8 | 6 | 4.35 | 26 | 22 | 132.3 | 123 | 64 | 19 | 61 | 127 | 4.58 |
| Bernardo Flores Jr. | L | 25 | 9 | 8 | 4.60 | 26 | 26 | 146.7 | 164 | 75 | 21 | 37 | 92 | 4.71 |
| Reynaldo López | R | 27 | 10 | 9 | 4.68 | 28 | 28 | 148.0 | 145 | 77 | 24 | 57 | 132 | 4.80 |
| Dane Dunning | R | 26 | 4 | 4 | 4.64 | 18 | 18 | 87.3 | 86 | 45 | 13 | 36 | 75 | 4.81 |
| Carlos Rodón | L | 28 | 5 | 4 | 4.68 | 16 | 14 | 73.0 | 71 | 38 | 12 | 34 | 75 | 4.78 |
| Aaron Bummer | L | 27 | 1 | 1 | 3.50 | 58 | 0 | 61.7 | 53 | 24 | 5 | 26 | 60 | 3.70 |
| Alex Colomé | R | 32 | 5 | 3 | 3.65 | 60 | 0 | 56.7 | 50 | 23 | 6 | 20 | 52 | 3.89 |
| Tanner Banks | L | 29 | 7 | 7 | 5.04 | 25 | 20 | 114.3 | 130 | 64 | 18 | 33 | 70 | 5.05 |
| Lincoln Henzman | R | 25 | 7 | 7 | 5.07 | 27 | 25 | 119.0 | 142 | 67 | 18 | 31 | 58 | 5.10 |
| Evan Marshall | R | 31 | 4 | 3 | 3.58 | 52 | 0 | 50.3 | 47 | 20 | 5 | 18 | 47 | 3.74 |
| Michael Kopech | R | 25 | 5 | 4 | 4.86 | 15 | 15 | 74.0 | 72 | 40 | 10 | 42 | 69 | 4.98 |
| Codi Heuer | R | 24 | 6 | 4 | 4.01 | 52 | 0 | 67.3 | 65 | 30 | 8 | 22 | 59 | 4.09 |
| Jace Fry | L | 27 | 3 | 2 | 3.97 | 62 | 0 | 56.7 | 45 | 25 | 5 | 35 | 71 | 3.78 |
| Tyler Johnson | R | 25 | 3 | 2 | 4.18 | 48 | 0 | 60.3 | 57 | 28 | 9 | 25 | 62 | 4.51 |
| Jimmy Lambert | R | 26 | 5 | 5 | 5.16 | 15 | 14 | 75.0 | 78 | 43 | 13 | 33 | 65 | 5.18 |
| Garrett Crochet | R | 22 | 2 | 1 | 3.86 | 35 | 0 | 35.0 | 32 | 15 | 4 | 11 | 34 | 3.92 |
| Steve Cishek | R | 35 | 3 | 2 | 4.18 | 59 | 0 | 51.7 | 44 | 24 | 7 | 25 | 54 | 4.65 |
| Jimmy Cordero | R | 29 | 4 | 3 | 4.31 | 60 | 0 | 64.7 | 62 | 31 | 6 | 35 | 56 | 4.51 |
| Jacob Lindgren | L | 28 | 2 | 1 | 3.80 | 16 | 1 | 21.3 | 20 | 9 | 2 | 9 | 18 | 4.12 |
| Vince Arobio | R | 26 | 6 | 5 | 4.53 | 38 | 1 | 59.7 | 56 | 30 | 8 | 30 | 61 | 4.54 |
| Clayton Richard | L | 37 | 6 | 7 | 5.51 | 18 | 17 | 99.7 | 111 | 61 | 18 | 38 | 66 | 5.50 |
| John Parke | L | 26 | 6 | 7 | 5.56 | 24 | 24 | 121.3 | 146 | 75 | 20 | 44 | 61 | 5.60 |
| Bennett Sousa | L | 26 | 5 | 5 | 4.75 | 48 | 0 | 66.3 | 74 | 35 | 10 | 19 | 41 | 4.90 |
| Ryan Burr | R | 27 | 3 | 3 | 4.80 | 37 | 0 | 45.0 | 41 | 24 | 6 | 31 | 47 | 5.02 |
| Ross Detwiler | L | 35 | 3 | 4 | 5.60 | 23 | 11 | 70.7 | 80 | 44 | 14 | 27 | 49 | 5.68 |
| Matt Foster | R | 26 | 5 | 5 | 4.91 | 52 | 1 | 62.3 | 65 | 34 | 10 | 28 | 45 | 5.31 |
| Jose Ruiz | R | 26 | 2 | 2 | 4.87 | 45 | 0 | 48.0 | 47 | 26 | 7 | 28 | 47 | 5.06 |
| Zack Burdi | R | 26 | 2 | 3 | 5.33 | 23 | 0 | 25.3 | 24 | 15 | 5 | 16 | 29 | 5.47 |
| Felix Paulino | R | 26 | 4 | 5 | 5.78 | 22 | 10 | 71.7 | 81 | 46 | 13 | 37 | 51 | 5.87 |
| Hunter Schryver | L | 26 | 3 | 3 | 5.16 | 41 | 0 | 59.3 | 62 | 34 | 11 | 28 | 53 | 5.42 |
| Alec Hansen | R | 26 | 3 | 3 | 5.27 | 47 | 0 | 54.7 | 47 | 32 | 7 | 52 | 63 | 5.56 |
| Blake Battenfield | R | 26 | 5 | 7 | 5.97 | 25 | 21 | 107.0 | 128 | 71 | 25 | 40 | 75 | 6.13 |
| Jonathan Stiever | R | 24 | 6 | 8 | 6.03 | 20 | 20 | 97.0 | 108 | 65 | 26 | 24 | 84 | 5.86 |
| Spencer Adams | R | 25 | 5 | 8 | 6.47 | 22 | 21 | 105.7 | 131 | 76 | 24 | 48 | 57 | 6.59 |
| Player | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | BB% | K% | BABIP | ERA+ | ERA- | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lucas Giolito | 12.4 | 2.8 | 1.1 | 7.8% | 34.5% | .277 | 149 | 67 | 5.1 | Jose Rijo |
| Dallas Keuchel | 7.4 | 2.8 | 1.2 | 7.3% | 19.5% | .281 | 112 | 89 | 2.7 | Tommy John |
| Dylan Cease | 9.1 | 4.5 | 1.2 | 11.3% | 22.8% | .296 | 100 | 100 | 1.8 | Steve Arlin |
| Gio González | 8.6 | 4.1 | 1.3 | 10.6% | 22.1% | .285 | 103 | 98 | 1.8 | Bob Veale |
| Bernardo Flores Jr. | 5.6 | 2.3 | 1.3 | 5.8% | 14.4% | .299 | 97 | 103 | 1.7 | Jack Russell |
| Reynaldo López | 8.0 | 3.5 | 1.5 | 8.9% | 20.6% | .287 | 95 | 105 | 1.6 | Steve Hargan |
| Dane Dunning | 7.7 | 3.7 | 1.3 | 9.4% | 19.6% | .287 | 96 | 104 | 1.0 | John Denny |
| Carlos Rodón | 9.2 | 4.2 | 1.5 | 10.6% | 23.3% | .298 | 95 | 105 | 0.9 | Bill Wight |
| Aaron Bummer | 8.8 | 3.8 | 0.7 | 9.9% | 22.8% | .284 | 127 | 78 | 0.9 | Darold Knowles |
| Alex Colomé | 8.3 | 3.2 | 1.0 | 8.4% | 21.8% | .278 | 122 | 82 | 0.8 | Greg Minton |
| Tanner Banks | 5.5 | 2.6 | 1.4 | 6.5% | 13.9% | .298 | 89 | 113 | 0.8 | Wade Blasingame |
| Lincoln Henzman | 4.4 | 2.3 | 1.4 | 5.9% | 11.0% | .300 | 88 | 114 | 0.8 | Rick Wise |
| Evan Marshall | 8.4 | 3.2 | 0.9 | 8.5% | 22.1% | .296 | 125 | 80 | 0.8 | Jay Ritchie |
| Michael Kopech | 8.4 | 5.1 | 1.2 | 12.5% | 20.5% | .295 | 92 | 109 | 0.7 | Blue Moon Odom |
| Codi Heuer | 7.9 | 2.9 | 1.1 | 7.7% | 20.6% | .292 | 111 | 90 | 0.6 | Donnie Moore |
| Jace Fry | 11.3 | 5.6 | 0.8 | 14.1% | 28.5% | .294 | 112 | 89 | 0.4 | Marcelino Lopez |
| Tyler Johnson | 9.2 | 3.7 | 1.3 | 9.5% | 23.6% | .294 | 107 | 94 | 0.4 | Steve Gomez |
| Jimmy Lambert | 7.8 | 4.0 | 1.6 | 9.9% | 19.4% | .295 | 86 | 116 | 0.4 | Jake Joseph |
| Garrett Crochet | 8.7 | 2.8 | 1.0 | 7.4% | 22.8% | .289 | 116 | 86 | 0.3 | Cla Meredith |
| Steve Cishek | 9.4 | 4.4 | 1.2 | 11.0% | 23.8% | .274 | 107 | 94 | 0.3 | Ted Abernathy |
| Jimmy Cordero | 7.8 | 4.9 | 0.8 | 12.0% | 19.2% | .296 | 103 | 97 | 0.3 | Hal Reniff |
| Jacob Lindgren | 7.6 | 3.8 | 0.8 | 9.8% | 19.6% | .290 | 118 | 85 | 0.3 | Hank Aguirre |
| Vince Arobio | 9.2 | 4.5 | 1.2 | 11.4% | 23.1% | .296 | 99 | 101 | 0.2 | Mike Gardner |
| Clayton Richard | 6.0 | 3.4 | 1.6 | 8.5% | 14.8% | .292 | 81 | 123 | 0.2 | Mel Harder |
| John Parke | 4.5 | 3.3 | 1.5 | 8.0% | 11.1% | .301 | 80 | 125 | 0.2 | Jeff Johnson |
| Bennett Sousa | 5.6 | 2.6 | 1.4 | 6.6% | 14.1% | .295 | 94 | 106 | 0.0 | Will McEnaney |
| Ryan Burr | 9.4 | 6.2 | 1.2 | 15.0% | 22.8% | .292 | 93 | 108 | 0.0 | Newt Kimball |
| Ross Detwiler | 6.2 | 3.4 | 1.8 | 8.5% | 15.5% | .296 | 80 | 126 | 0.0 | Brian Moehler |
| Matt Foster | 6.5 | 4.0 | 1.4 | 10.1% | 16.2% | .286 | 91 | 110 | 0.0 | Horacio Pina |
| Jose Ruiz | 8.8 | 5.3 | 1.3 | 12.8% | 21.5% | .299 | 92 | 109 | -0.1 | Casey Daigle |
| Zack Burdi | 10.3 | 5.7 | 1.8 | 13.9% | 25.2% | .297 | 84 | 119 | -0.2 | Rick Greene |
| Felix Paulino | 6.4 | 4.6 | 1.6 | 11.1% | 15.4% | .301 | 77 | 129 | -0.2 | Ricky Steik |
| Hunter Schryver | 8.0 | 4.2 | 1.7 | 10.4% | 19.8% | .297 | 87 | 116 | -0.3 | Danny Zell |
| Alec Hansen | 10.4 | 8.6 | 1.2 | 19.8% | 24.0% | .290 | 85 | 118 | -0.3 | Sam Nahem |
| Blake Battenfield | 6.3 | 3.4 | 2.1 | 8.2% | 15.4% | .302 | 75 | 134 | -0.3 | Nate Cornejo |
| Jonathan Stiever | 7.8 | 2.2 | 2.4 | 5.7% | 19.9% | .291 | 74 | 135 | -0.3 | Ryan Cox |
| Spencer Adams | 4.9 | 4.1 | 2.0 | 9.7% | 11.6% | .299 | 69 | 145 | -0.9 | Rick Sutcliffe |
Players are listed with their most recent teams wherever possible. This includes players who are unsigned, players who will miss 2021 due to injury, and players who were released in 2020. So yes, if you see Joe Schmoe, who quit baseball back in August to form a Finnish industrial death metal fourth-wave ska J-pop band, he’s still listed here intentionally.
Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR, which is to say, WAR values as calculated by me, Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in the full release of ZiPS. Finally, I will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on a depth chart to produce projected team WAR. ZiPS is assuming that the designated hitter will continue in force in 2021; if it does not, there will be widespread minor adjustments across the board come April.
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I’d like to see a Zips time warp on Jose Rijo.
38 career war by age 30.
Is my math right that he debuted at 19?
That is correct. Age 30 season was shortened but accrued 1.5 WAR in 69 innings. The prior 4 years his WAR was 6.1, 5.1, 7.1, 4.1.
Age 30 is shortened, he’s out of the league for 5 years, then comes back with 2 years largely as a RP.
If he says healthy those 5.5 years, he has a shot at 50 career WAR. Maybe even 60.
Yes. Steinbrenner wanted to have his own young stud to compete with Dwight Gooden on the crosstown Mets..so, Rijo got the call even though he was a far from ready.
Oh, the good old 1980’s Bronx Zoo!
I’ll take the over an about all of those position player WAR projections.
Also, Zips loves Bernardo Flores.
Some of those guys have short histories and are difficult to project – like Robert, Vaughn, and Madrigal and even some of the other guys since the season was so short. Last year that problem was even bigger since it included only one good year from Moncada and Giolito, a small sample for Jimenez, and the aforementioned BABIP issues for both Moncada and Anderson, so the projections were even more volatile.
But the nature of this type of analysis is that some of them will overperform and some will underperform (due to injury, aging, luck, or just being bad) and over a large enough sample size it all even outs in the end.
I hadn’t thought of Brantley, but he would be a really good fit for this team if you can put Jimenez in RF. I guess DH is always an option but Andrew Vaughn will be ready soon and only one of him and Abreu can play 1B.
Prior to thinking about Brantley, I was thinking Joc Pederson makes the most sense. The team doesn’t really need anyone else who can hit lefties, but Joc Pederson mashes right handed batting. He can’t play every day but he’d be far better in a platoon role than Mazara, who is essentially Scott Schebler.
Joc Pederson and Adam Engel would make an excellent platoon.
Why not Springer (especially if you want a plus defender to make up for others)?
If you’re willing to outbid the Mets and a couple other teams for Springer then yes, I think that’s the better play. He’s obviously a better player than either one of them because he’s an above-average hitter against both lefties and righties. Much better against lefties than righties, but he’s also a really good hitter, period.
If what you really want is to hit right-handed pitchers better–the team is awesome against left-handed pitching but only average against right-handed pitching–then you can fix that for cheaper. Brantley is average against lefties and Joc is incredibly bad against lefties, but they both hit righties exceptionally well. Historically, they’ve done much better against righties than Springer.
So I guess it depends what your goal is. I guess I just don’t see them especially motivated to outbid other teams.
Brantley is a pretty bad defender as well, though.
I’ve seen Jimenez play a lot of LF. I don’t see any reason why I need to see him play RF. I suppose his arm isn’t really he problem and whichever corner he plays, half of it will be covered by Robert, but the only glove I want to see him wearing is a batting glove. Seriously, when he is in the field, my first thought is “don’t injure yourself or anybody else out there.” He’s pretty clearly the DH of the future, which I thought was a lot closer until Abreu did what he did last year.
Love the New York White Sox. Wild that MLB gave the Big Apple three teams though!
I guess they will go after Brantley. They need a LHB. If he signs elsewhere, I could see the WSox signing Eddie Rosario. He will probably be released by the Twins to make way for Kirilloff and save some money. That would leave money to help pay for a SP.
I get that Fangraphs needs the cash, but these ads are getting ridiculous. I’ve seen up to seven ads on the page at the same time.
I’m thankful everyday for my add free membership, and thanks Dan for cranking on the ZIPS!
Then pay for membership.
I’m a member and I still get an insane amount of ads and that notice at the top to sign in when I’m already signed in.
I’m curious, how is the order of relievers in the list determined? It doesn’t look like it is ordered by WAR, or by ERA+, FIP, innings pitched, etc….so how IS it ordered!?!
BTW I just picked up Joe Schmoe’s latest CD, and man does it rock!
I love that their closer’s last name is Bummer. I’m a Tigers fan, so I keep hoping he runs into a bad streak of allowing walk off hits, so we can all go “Well that’s a Bummer” & know exactly what it means.
I think the best comp for Robert, overall, is Mike Cameron. I don’t know if that’s his 25th, 50th, or 75th percentile, but everything is similar.
Great speed and power, great defense, lots of strikeouts leading to mediocre averages.
I agree that he is probably the most reasonable comp, although he’s not there quite yet. Cameron had pretty good OBPs, which was partly a reflection of the era with fewer K’s but not entirely. (Cameron’s defense was also spectacular, way ahead of where Robert is now, although I suspect that Robert will get there). But the general profile is similar; elite defense, some power but otherwise not that remarkable at the plate, good baserunning.
The other way that I think he’s not a good comparison is that I think Robert’s profile–which involves hitting the ball comically hard but striking out a lot–means he’s going to have more variance year to year than a guy like Cameron. In a 5 year period, Cameron put up 5 wins in four of those years. Robert, because it looks like a lot of his power is going to come on doubles, is probably going to be more volatile than that, with some years where he is a 7-win destroyer and others where he’s more like a 2-win guy, a kind of Curtis Granderson type of variance.
I do think Mike Cameron is a good comp and agree that Roberts will be a bit more volatile. I do think his power may be being a bit undersold here though. Mike Cameron was a 25 HR hitter where I think you’ll see Roberts settle in as a 30-35 HR hitter. I see his K rate hovering in the 25-28% range with a little more experience which is a bit higher than Cameron’s but not that much.
I’ve seen a lot of Brantley/Pederson speculation in regard to Chw RF. Brantley cannot play RF and I’m bearish on Pederson due to his newfound susceptibility to RHP changeups. It might make sense to trade for Kole Calhoun instead. AZ is trying to cut payroll and Calhoun is LH and can play adequate RF defense . I’m not saying I’m in love with it, just prefer Calhoun to Joc Pede and can’t see Chw outbidding the big guns for Springer.
I also agree with Dan that their focus on the position side should be resigning McCann or a competent backup to allow Grandal to DH & work in at 1b
Not being a CWS fan, I’ve obviously missed some things: what’s the story on Rodón?
“he’s still a 34-year-old first baseman who appeared in steep decline before the abbreviated 2020 campaign.” Looking just at his raw stats, you would think that. But if you look at his Barrel %, Exit Velocity, xSLG, and xwOBA from 2018-19, he did not show that decline. So, an agining, 1B will have some regression. Also he just had his best season, so there will be regression. But I do not think he will fall off a cliff. https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/jose-abreu-547989?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb
Just looking at the similar players mix tells me this will be a good team.