2022 ZiPS Projections: Cincinnati Reds
After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for a decade. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the Cincinnati Reds.
Batters
The offense’s resurgence from 13th in the National League in runs scored in 2020 to fourth in ’21 was one of the big reasons the Reds stubbornly hung on to the edge of the Wild Card race for most of the second half of the season. Jonathan India not only survived in the majors but thrived, winning the Rookie of the Year award with a borderline star season and providing the team a significant boost. Tyler Stephenson wasn’t too far from a Rookie of the Year vote of his own, at least on my ballot. Joey Votto pushed back Father Time yet again, at least for the one season, and Nick Castellanos hit like the Reds expected him to when they signed him. Kyle Farmer was hardly a great shortstop, but the position would have been an even worse problem if Cincy’s wild plan to make the former backup catcher their shortstop had not worked out acceptably.
ZiPS projects the offense to be above average in 2022 though not quite where it was this year. Castellanos is gone, which significantly downgrades one outfield spot unless the Reds make a signing when the offseason resumes. But given the team’s apparent determination to cut salary, I wouldn’t bank on it. Votto is one of the most thoughtful hitters in baseball, but he’ll also be 39, and time is the universe’s ultimate badass, while players approaching 40 are always betting against the house.
The various regressions are partially nullified by two things. First, India is barely projected to regress at all in 2022, with ZiPS not projecting any kind of Joe Charboneau sophomore slump for the reigning ROY (not that such an effect is a real thing, of course). The other is the computer projecting a better season for Eugenio Suárez. Now, ZiPS isn’t pegging him for a return to his prime, but it also doesn’t think that he’s going to continue aging like he pulled a Julian Glover and drank from the wrong holy grail, and the numbers below represent at least some recovery.
Jose Barrero looks much closer to the majors after a successful stint in the high minors, so the Reds do have some flexibility at short between him and Farmer that didn’t really exist last year. But depth remains a concern. The team does have a supply of spare, middling outfielders, but with India graduated, ZiPS doesn’t see much roster-relevant depth in the high minors once you get past Barrero.
Pitchers
Waiving Wade Miley immediately after he finished a three-win season just to try to avoid having to pay him the $1 million buyout triggered by not exercising a reasonable $10 million option ranks quite highly among cynical transactions. It rubs salt in the wound that one of the team’s likely competitors in the middle of the NL Central happily scooped him up for their rotation. Fans ought to be concerned about this behavior; the Reds have seemed determined to cut costs at the very time that they should be the most aggressive about spending. The contending years are supposed to carry the investment that justifies tight budgets in the down seasons.
But even if it makes us worry about the future of the Reds, this particular transaction may not have huge consequences. Sonny Gray, Luis Castillo, and Tyler Mahle still project as a very strong starting trio, and ZiPS gives optimistic projections to Reiver Sanmartin, Hunter Greene, and Nick Lodolo (Tejay Antone will miss 2022 with Tommy John surgery, so his real projection is 0-0, 0.00). Unfortunately, the Reds don’t seem to be quitting while they’re ahead, and Gray and Castillo have been the frequent subjects of trade rumors.
Another bit of good news is the bullpen. It was a decidedly below-average unit last season, but ZiPS thinks they largely have the right mix of pitchers on their roster. Lucas Sims and Art Warren are both projected to be in the upper tiers of relief excellence, with Amir Garrett, Luis Cessa, Jeff Hoffman, and others somewhere around average. ZiPS even likes Dauri Moreta, a mid-90s fastball-slider type with some good awareness of where the strike zone is located. Fans may think the bullpen is a problem — fans of most teams think their team’s bullpen is a problem — but I don’t think this is Cincinnati’s chief weakness. But acquiring a couple cheap veteran relievers is a lot less expensive than finding a Castellanos replacement, so it might be more tempting to ownership.
I’d put the Reds at around .500, maybe a game or two ahead of the break-even point. I’m just not sure that will be the projection in three months.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here.
| Player | B | Age | PO | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jonathan India | R | 25 | 2B | 634 | 534 | 99 | 140 | 34 | 2 | 21 | 73 | 72 | 144 | 12 | 3 |
| Jesse Winker | L | 28 | LF | 461 | 399 | 66 | 115 | 25 | 1 | 20 | 64 | 54 | 78 | 1 | 1 |
| Nick Castellanos | R | 30 | RF | 603 | 551 | 92 | 158 | 39 | 2 | 31 | 96 | 40 | 128 | 3 | 2 |
| Eugenio Suárez | R | 30 | 3B | 578 | 504 | 72 | 119 | 21 | 1 | 34 | 99 | 61 | 166 | 1 | 1 |
| Tyler Stephenson | R | 25 | C | 421 | 368 | 55 | 98 | 20 | 0 | 10 | 45 | 42 | 85 | 0 | 0 |
| Joey Votto | L | 38 | 1B | 487 | 416 | 61 | 104 | 21 | 1 | 24 | 75 | 65 | 114 | 1 | 0 |
| Jose Barrero | R | 24 | SS | 460 | 413 | 57 | 103 | 21 | 2 | 13 | 57 | 30 | 114 | 13 | 3 |
| Tyler Naquin | L | 31 | CF | 410 | 377 | 46 | 99 | 22 | 2 | 14 | 58 | 26 | 95 | 4 | 3 |
| Kyle Farmer | R | 31 | SS | 469 | 430 | 48 | 110 | 21 | 2 | 12 | 52 | 21 | 90 | 3 | 2 |
| Alejo Lopez | B | 26 | 2B | 478 | 434 | 61 | 119 | 19 | 1 | 5 | 36 | 33 | 63 | 6 | 4 |
| Lorenzo Cedrola | R | 24 | CF | 490 | 458 | 63 | 129 | 15 | 5 | 9 | 44 | 16 | 62 | 10 | 7 |
| Mike Moustakas | L | 33 | 3B | 415 | 372 | 46 | 92 | 22 | 1 | 18 | 62 | 35 | 79 | 2 | 0 |
| Max Schrock | L | 27 | 2B | 314 | 289 | 37 | 75 | 14 | 2 | 8 | 31 | 21 | 57 | 3 | 1 |
| TJ Friedl | L | 26 | CF | 455 | 400 | 51 | 99 | 15 | 4 | 11 | 37 | 39 | 82 | 12 | 5 |
| Aristides Aquino | R | 28 | LF | 401 | 356 | 51 | 80 | 14 | 1 | 23 | 67 | 38 | 126 | 6 | 2 |
| Delino DeShields | R | 29 | LF | 443 | 382 | 48 | 91 | 17 | 3 | 7 | 31 | 51 | 104 | 21 | 4 |
| Nick Senzel | R | 27 | CF | 324 | 294 | 42 | 75 | 16 | 3 | 8 | 31 | 26 | 67 | 8 | 6 |
| Francisco Urbaez | R | 24 | 2B | 423 | 389 | 57 | 105 | 20 | 1 | 5 | 30 | 29 | 66 | 2 | 1 |
| Logan Morrison | L | 34 | 1B | 210 | 189 | 28 | 47 | 11 | 0 | 10 | 30 | 17 | 42 | 0 | 0 |
| Shogo Akiyama | L | 34 | CF | 483 | 439 | 52 | 114 | 20 | 3 | 9 | 42 | 37 | 87 | 6 | 7 |
| Aramis Garcia | R | 29 | C | 320 | 294 | 36 | 66 | 13 | 1 | 12 | 38 | 18 | 98 | 0 | 1 |
| Drew Mount | L | 26 | RF | 273 | 256 | 26 | 62 | 9 | 2 | 10 | 30 | 13 | 78 | 5 | 4 |
| Ivan Johnson | B | 23 | SS | 360 | 333 | 39 | 77 | 15 | 1 | 12 | 38 | 24 | 107 | 7 | 4 |
| Ender Inciarte | L | 31 | CF | 292 | 262 | 37 | 63 | 11 | 2 | 5 | 25 | 23 | 55 | 6 | 3 |
| Asdrúbal Cabrera | B | 36 | 3B | 385 | 343 | 43 | 82 | 19 | 1 | 13 | 58 | 36 | 87 | 1 | 0 |
| Brian Rey | R | 24 | 2B | 381 | 343 | 50 | 88 | 14 | 0 | 9 | 38 | 19 | 63 | 3 | 4 |
| Trey Amburgey | R | 27 | RF | 416 | 384 | 51 | 94 | 23 | 2 | 14 | 50 | 23 | 115 | 4 | 1 |
| Allen Cordoba | R | 26 | 3B | 377 | 343 | 49 | 85 | 18 | 2 | 6 | 36 | 21 | 73 | 9 | 7 |
| Jacob Hurtubise | L | 24 | RF | 433 | 382 | 72 | 95 | 12 | 2 | 0 | 21 | 38 | 84 | 22 | 5 |
| Scott Heineman | R | 29 | RF | 251 | 229 | 29 | 56 | 11 | 1 | 8 | 25 | 17 | 60 | 6 | 3 |
| Mark Kolozsvary | R | 26 | C | 260 | 229 | 25 | 41 | 9 | 1 | 7 | 23 | 21 | 91 | 0 | 1 |
| Robbie Tenerowicz | R | 27 | 3B | 343 | 309 | 38 | 70 | 13 | 1 | 10 | 36 | 20 | 90 | 4 | 4 |
| Quincy McAfee | R | 24 | 2B | 335 | 293 | 43 | 63 | 14 | 1 | 6 | 29 | 29 | 67 | 5 | 3 |
| Matt Lloyd | L | 26 | LF | 157 | 142 | 14 | 28 | 6 | 0 | 7 | 19 | 13 | 55 | 0 | 1 |
| Chris Okey | R | 27 | C | 208 | 188 | 24 | 38 | 7 | 1 | 7 | 23 | 16 | 66 | 0 | 0 |
| Andrew Knapp | B | 30 | C | 168 | 142 | 15 | 31 | 7 | 1 | 3 | 17 | 22 | 50 | 0 | 0 |
| Chuckie Robinson | R | 27 | C | 313 | 287 | 31 | 61 | 10 | 1 | 9 | 28 | 21 | 84 | 3 | 2 |
| Rocky Gale | R | 34 | C | 160 | 153 | 12 | 33 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 9 | 4 | 35 | 0 | 0 |
| Leonardo Rivas | B | 24 | 2B | 313 | 280 | 39 | 60 | 9 | 2 | 3 | 19 | 31 | 82 | 6 | 3 |
| Nicky Delmonico | L | 29 | 1B | 154 | 138 | 16 | 31 | 8 | 1 | 4 | 16 | 13 | 41 | 0 | 1 |
| Alfredo Rodriguez | R | 28 | 2B | 465 | 431 | 55 | 107 | 16 | 2 | 3 | 29 | 21 | 88 | 5 | 4 |
| Juan Martinez | R | 23 | 3B | 396 | 364 | 44 | 80 | 17 | 2 | 10 | 39 | 23 | 92 | 0 | 1 |
| TJ Hopkins | R | 25 | LF | 285 | 261 | 32 | 59 | 10 | 3 | 5 | 24 | 18 | 78 | 4 | 1 |
| Cristian Santana | R | 25 | 3B | 419 | 402 | 47 | 101 | 18 | 1 | 11 | 45 | 10 | 105 | 0 | 1 |
| Alex Blandino | R | 29 | 1B | 264 | 220 | 29 | 42 | 9 | 1 | 3 | 16 | 32 | 76 | 1 | 1 |
| Eric Yang | R | 24 | C | 273 | 237 | 31 | 44 | 9 | 0 | 4 | 17 | 23 | 71 | 1 | 1 |
| Errol Robinson | R | 27 | SS | 316 | 284 | 32 | 58 | 9 | 0 | 4 | 18 | 29 | 93 | 7 | 4 |
| Allan Cerda | R | 22 | CF | 398 | 361 | 38 | 76 | 17 | 2 | 21 | 59 | 25 | 123 | 1 | 4 |
| Michael Siani | L | 22 | CF | 458 | 416 | 43 | 84 | 11 | 3 | 8 | 27 | 35 | 117 | 23 | 9 |
| Jay Schuyler | R | 25 | C | 323 | 293 | 30 | 56 | 8 | 1 | 4 | 22 | 22 | 91 | 2 | 3 |
| Garrett Wolforth | B | 24 | C | 317 | 299 | 30 | 57 | 10 | 2 | 9 | 33 | 15 | 104 | 2 | 1 |
| Ronnie Dawson | L | 27 | CF | 438 | 391 | 56 | 84 | 18 | 1 | 11 | 41 | 37 | 130 | 12 | 8 |
| Miguel Hernandez | R | 23 | SS | 441 | 416 | 54 | 98 | 17 | 1 | 3 | 29 | 19 | 89 | 4 | 2 |
| Braxton Lee | L | 28 | LF | 347 | 315 | 37 | 69 | 13 | 2 | 1 | 20 | 26 | 91 | 4 | 3 |
| Brantley Bell | R | 27 | 1B | 329 | 303 | 33 | 63 | 12 | 1 | 3 | 22 | 21 | 77 | 8 | 3 |
| Quin Cotton | R | 24 | LF | 367 | 343 | 37 | 71 | 12 | 1 | 8 | 33 | 19 | 114 | 13 | 6 |
| Player | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS+ | ISO | BABIP | RC/27 | Def | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jonathan India | .262 | .371 | .451 | 112 | .189 | .322 | 6.3 | 3 | 3.8 | Eddie Yost |
| Jesse Winker | .288 | .384 | .506 | 128 | .218 | .316 | 7.3 | -4 | 2.3 | Steve Braun |
| Nick Castellanos | .287 | .340 | .534 | 121 | .247 | .324 | 6.8 | -5 | 2.3 | Juan Gonzalez |
| Eugenio Suárez | .236 | .325 | .484 | 106 | .248 | .280 | 5.5 | -3 | 2.1 | Steve Buechele |
| Tyler Stephenson | .266 | .347 | .402 | 94 | .136 | .322 | 5.1 | 3 | 1.9 | Kurt Suzuki |
| Joey Votto | .250 | .353 | .478 | 113 | .228 | .288 | 6.1 | -1 | 1.6 | Chris Chambliss |
| Jose Barrero | .249 | .313 | .404 | 84 | .155 | .315 | 4.7 | 3 | 1.4 | Jose Castro |
| Tyler Naquin | .263 | .315 | .443 | 93 | .180 | .317 | 5.0 | 0 | 1.1 | George Vukovich |
| Kyle Farmer | .256 | .308 | .398 | 81 | .142 | .299 | 4.4 | 2 | 1.0 | Robert Eenhoorn |
| Alejo Lopez | .274 | .332 | .357 | 79 | .083 | .311 | 4.4 | 4 | 0.9 | Mike Bordick |
| Lorenzo Cedrola | .282 | .317 | .395 | 83 | .114 | .310 | 4.6 | 2 | 0.8 | Wendell Magee |
| Mike Moustakas | .247 | .318 | .457 | 98 | .210 | .269 | 5.3 | -6 | 0.8 | Wayne Gross |
| Max Schrock | .260 | .313 | .405 | 84 | .145 | .299 | 4.7 | 2 | 0.7 | Matt Macri |
| TJ Friedl | .248 | .329 | .388 | 85 | .140 | .287 | 4.6 | -2 | 0.7 | Mike Rodriguez |
| Aristides Aquino | .225 | .304 | .463 | 95 | .239 | .275 | 5.0 | 0 | 0.7 | Harvey Pulliam |
| Delino DeShields | .238 | .332 | .353 | 78 | .115 | .310 | 4.5 | 4 | 0.7 | Allen Battle |
| Nick Senzel | .255 | .316 | .412 | 87 | .156 | .306 | 4.6 | 1 | 0.6 | Ira Smith |
| Francisco Urbaez | .270 | .329 | .365 | 80 | .095 | .314 | 4.4 | 0 | 0.6 | Aaron Hill |
| Logan Morrison | .249 | .319 | .466 | 100 | .217 | .270 | 5.3 | 0 | 0.4 | Sid Bream |
| Shogo Akiyama | .260 | .324 | .380 | 82 | .121 | .306 | 4.3 | -1 | 0.4 | Fred Schulte |
| Aramis Garcia | .224 | .274 | .398 | 71 | .173 | .293 | 3.7 | 2 | 0.4 | Paul Chiaffredo |
| Drew Mount | .242 | .286 | .410 | 77 | .168 | .310 | 4.1 | 6 | 0.3 | Victor Mata |
| Ivan Johnson | .231 | .289 | .390 | 74 | .159 | .304 | 3.9 | 0 | 0.3 | Brant Ust |
| Ender Inciarte | .240 | .307 | .355 | 71 | .115 | .287 | 3.9 | 3 | 0.3 | Ryan Fleming |
| Asdrúbal Cabrera | .239 | .312 | .414 | 86 | .175 | .284 | 4.6 | -4 | 0.3 | Tim Wallach |
| Brian Rey | .257 | .312 | .376 | 77 | .120 | .292 | 4.1 | 0 | 0.3 | Omar Malave |
| Trey Amburgey | .245 | .293 | .424 | 83 | .180 | .314 | 4.5 | 2 | 0.3 | Charlie James |
| Allen Cordoba | .248 | .307 | .364 | 73 | .117 | .299 | 3.9 | 2 | 0.2 | Steve Benson |
| Jacob Hurtubise | .249 | .333 | .291 | 64 | .042 | .319 | 3.8 | 7 | 0.2 | Vernon Spearman |
| Scott Heineman | .245 | .307 | .406 | 83 | .162 | .298 | 4.5 | 1 | 0.1 | Nick Alvarez |
| Mark Kolozsvary | .179 | .273 | .319 | 53 | .140 | .260 | 2.8 | 4 | 0.1 | Brian Moon |
| Robbie Tenerowicz | .227 | .288 | .372 | 70 | .146 | .287 | 3.6 | 2 | 0.0 | Pedro Lopez |
| Quincy McAfee | .215 | .300 | .331 | 64 | .116 | .259 | 3.4 | 0 | -0.2 | Vicente Garcia |
| Matt Lloyd | .197 | .274 | .387 | 69 | .190 | .263 | 3.4 | 1 | -0.2 | Roger Haggerty |
| Chris Okey | .202 | .271 | .362 | 62 | .160 | .270 | 3.3 | -1 | -0.2 | Tom Nieto |
| Andrew Knapp | .218 | .329 | .345 | 76 | .127 | .315 | 3.9 | -6 | -0.3 | Jack Fimple |
| Chuckie Robinson | .213 | .275 | .348 | 60 | .136 | .268 | 3.2 | -2 | -0.3 | Brandon Marsters |
| Rocky Gale | .216 | .239 | .275 | 33 | .059 | .274 | 2.3 | 3 | -0.4 | Frank Charles |
| Leonardo Rivas | .214 | .295 | .293 | 54 | .079 | .292 | 3.0 | 1 | -0.4 | Micah Schilling |
| Nicky Delmonico | .225 | .299 | .384 | 75 | .159 | .290 | 3.8 | -3 | -0.5 | Alberto Concepcion |
| Alfredo Rodriguez | .248 | .289 | .316 | 57 | .067 | .306 | 3.2 | 4 | -0.5 | Fernando Cortez |
| Juan Martinez | .220 | .274 | .360 | 63 | .140 | .267 | 3.4 | 0 | -0.5 | Cesar Saba |
| TJ Hopkins | .226 | .279 | .345 | 61 | .119 | .303 | 3.4 | 2 | -0.5 | Darnell McDonald |
| Cristian Santana | .251 | .271 | .383 | 67 | .132 | .315 | 3.7 | -2 | -0.6 | Christopher Johnson |
| Alex Blandino | .191 | .319 | .282 | 58 | .091 | .277 | 3.0 | -1 | -0.7 | Alberto Concepcion |
| Eric Yang | .186 | .283 | .274 | 46 | .089 | .247 | 2.5 | -3 | -0.7 | Brad Erdman |
| Errol Robinson | .204 | .282 | .278 | 46 | .074 | .289 | 2.6 | -1 | -0.8 | Jason Camilli |
| Allan Cerda | .211 | .275 | .443 | 82 | .233 | .253 | 4.0 | -12 | -0.8 | Curt Flood |
| Michael Siani | .202 | .270 | .300 | 48 | .099 | .261 | 2.9 | 3 | -0.9 | Tarrik Brock |
| Jay Schuyler | .191 | .255 | .266 | 36 | .075 | .263 | 2.1 | 0 | -1.2 | Jose Molina |
| Garrett Wolforth | .191 | .231 | .328 | 43 | .137 | .258 | 2.5 | -3 | -1.2 | Walt McKeel |
| Ronnie Dawson | .215 | .291 | .350 | 65 | .136 | .292 | 3.4 | -9 | -1.2 | Francisco Plasencia |
| Miguel Hernandez | .236 | .269 | .303 | 48 | .067 | .293 | 2.9 | -3 | -1.3 | Kent Anderson |
| Braxton Lee | .219 | .282 | .283 | 47 | .063 | .305 | 2.7 | -2 | -1.6 | Selwyn Langaigne |
| Brantley Bell | .208 | .265 | .284 | 43 | .076 | .269 | 2.6 | -1 | -1.8 | Brian Keck |
| Quin Cotton | .207 | .251 | .318 | 46 | .111 | .285 | 2.7 | -2 | -1.8 | Alex Ahumada |
| Player | T | Age | W | L | ERA | G | GS | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO | FIP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tyler Mahle | R | 27 | 11 | 8 | 4.08 | 32 | 32 | 167.7 | 155 | 76 | 23 | 61 | 188 | 3.96 |
| Sonny Gray | R | 32 | 10 | 7 | 3.78 | 27 | 27 | 140.3 | 117 | 59 | 17 | 56 | 153 | 3.90 |
| Luis Castillo | R | 29 | 15 | 8 | 3.54 | 31 | 31 | 180.3 | 158 | 71 | 18 | 66 | 195 | 3.55 |
| Reiver Sanmartin | L | 26 | 8 | 7 | 4.46 | 26 | 20 | 109.0 | 113 | 54 | 17 | 33 | 96 | 4.52 |
| Hunter Greene | R | 22 | 11 | 9 | 4.47 | 22 | 22 | 106.7 | 102 | 53 | 17 | 40 | 114 | 4.38 |
| Tejay Antone | R | 28 | 6 | 4 | 4.27 | 27 | 12 | 84.3 | 75 | 40 | 11 | 36 | 92 | 4.15 |
| Nick Lodolo | L | 24 | 3 | 2 | 3.99 | 14 | 14 | 56.3 | 53 | 25 | 8 | 17 | 59 | 3.94 |
| Lucas Sims | R | 28 | 4 | 2 | 3.56 | 60 | 0 | 55.7 | 40 | 22 | 8 | 28 | 86 | 3.68 |
| Tony Santillan | R | 25 | 5 | 4 | 4.71 | 35 | 13 | 84.0 | 76 | 44 | 13 | 44 | 98 | 4.68 |
| Graham Ashcraft | R | 24 | 7 | 7 | 5.13 | 22 | 22 | 101.7 | 107 | 58 | 17 | 41 | 87 | 5.03 |
| Eduardo Salazar | R | 24 | 5 | 5 | 5.25 | 22 | 19 | 94.3 | 103 | 55 | 15 | 38 | 70 | 5.13 |
| Connor Overton | R | 28 | 2 | 2 | 4.77 | 28 | 8 | 60.3 | 63 | 32 | 10 | 20 | 52 | 4.75 |
| Art Warren | R | 29 | 4 | 2 | 3.37 | 38 | 0 | 34.7 | 26 | 13 | 4 | 15 | 48 | 3.38 |
| Bo Takahashi | R | 25 | 5 | 6 | 5.46 | 19 | 19 | 92.3 | 99 | 56 | 20 | 34 | 83 | 5.47 |
| Vladimir Gutierrez | R | 26 | 8 | 9 | 5.63 | 25 | 25 | 126.3 | 136 | 79 | 27 | 48 | 111 | 5.48 |
| Luis Cessa | R | 30 | 3 | 3 | 4.41 | 46 | 1 | 65.3 | 63 | 32 | 9 | 23 | 61 | 4.21 |
| Amir Garrett | L | 30 | 2 | 2 | 4.25 | 61 | 0 | 48.7 | 40 | 23 | 8 | 28 | 67 | 4.41 |
| Alexis Diaz | R | 25 | 3 | 3 | 4.47 | 35 | 1 | 48.3 | 43 | 24 | 6 | 28 | 54 | 4.48 |
| Trey Wingenter | R | 28 | 2 | 2 | 4.36 | 45 | 1 | 43.3 | 33 | 21 | 7 | 26 | 62 | 4.43 |
| Jeff Hoffman | R | 29 | 4 | 3 | 4.50 | 66 | 1 | 62.0 | 55 | 31 | 9 | 34 | 77 | 4.42 |
| Dauri Moreta | R | 26 | 3 | 2 | 4.35 | 44 | 0 | 51.7 | 50 | 25 | 7 | 18 | 50 | 4.23 |
| Tommy Milone | L | 35 | 5 | 5 | 5.51 | 21 | 12 | 83.3 | 93 | 51 | 20 | 21 | 78 | 5.29 |
| Riley O’Brien | R | 27 | 6 | 8 | 5.74 | 23 | 21 | 102.0 | 106 | 65 | 21 | 54 | 98 | 5.70 |
| Jacques Pucheu | L | 25 | 3 | 4 | 5.50 | 25 | 11 | 68.7 | 72 | 42 | 11 | 36 | 56 | 5.38 |
| Michael Byrne | R | 25 | 5 | 5 | 5.03 | 37 | 4 | 53.7 | 58 | 30 | 7 | 23 | 36 | 4.99 |
| Zach Lee | R | 30 | 4 | 5 | 5.77 | 23 | 17 | 92.0 | 108 | 59 | 19 | 33 | 67 | 5.65 |
| Phillip Diehl | L | 27 | 2 | 2 | 4.72 | 57 | 0 | 55.3 | 54 | 29 | 12 | 19 | 64 | 4.88 |
| Justin Wilson | L | 34 | 2 | 2 | 4.55 | 38 | 0 | 31.7 | 29 | 16 | 4 | 17 | 34 | 4.38 |
| Matt Pidich | R | 27 | 5 | 5 | 5.09 | 35 | 3 | 53.0 | 55 | 30 | 9 | 22 | 46 | 5.07 |
| Mychal Givens | R | 32 | 4 | 3 | 4.88 | 54 | 1 | 51.7 | 43 | 28 | 10 | 28 | 68 | 4.81 |
| Michael Mariot | R | 33 | 4 | 5 | 5.86 | 17 | 15 | 78.3 | 89 | 51 | 17 | 28 | 59 | 5.72 |
| Brandon Bailey | R | 27 | 4 | 6 | 5.82 | 24 | 16 | 89.7 | 92 | 58 | 18 | 54 | 88 | 5.80 |
| Ryan Hendrix | R | 27 | 4 | 3 | 4.89 | 48 | 0 | 46.0 | 43 | 25 | 7 | 27 | 53 | 4.75 |
| Brad Brach | R | 36 | 2 | 2 | 4.91 | 45 | 0 | 40.3 | 38 | 22 | 6 | 24 | 45 | 4.74 |
| Diomar Lopez | R | 25 | 1 | 1 | 5.11 | 29 | 1 | 44.0 | 46 | 25 | 7 | 18 | 37 | 5.00 |
| Tim Adleman | R | 34 | 3 | 3 | 5.71 | 24 | 8 | 58.3 | 64 | 37 | 14 | 19 | 53 | 5.61 |
| R.J. Alaniz | R | 31 | 2 | 2 | 5.02 | 37 | 0 | 43.0 | 42 | 24 | 7 | 21 | 44 | 4.85 |
| Josh Osich | L | 33 | 2 | 2 | 5.18 | 38 | 1 | 41.7 | 44 | 24 | 8 | 15 | 38 | 5.00 |
| Ricky Salinas | R | 26 | 5 | 7 | 6.09 | 19 | 18 | 78.3 | 88 | 53 | 17 | 39 | 67 | 5.94 |
| Eddy Demurias | R | 24 | 3 | 3 | 5.20 | 41 | 0 | 53.7 | 56 | 31 | 7 | 29 | 42 | 5.10 |
| Daniel Duarte | R | 25 | 2 | 2 | 5.47 | 19 | 0 | 24.7 | 26 | 15 | 4 | 12 | 20 | 5.25 |
| Braden Shipley | R | 30 | 3 | 4 | 5.95 | 25 | 8 | 59.0 | 65 | 39 | 14 | 28 | 55 | 5.98 |
| Miguel Figueroa | R | 24 | 0 | 1 | 5.36 | 29 | 0 | 42.0 | 41 | 25 | 7 | 26 | 43 | 5.30 |
| Mac Sceroler | R | 27 | 3 | 4 | 6.30 | 20 | 13 | 70.0 | 80 | 49 | 17 | 30 | 60 | 6.08 |
| Brandon Finnegan | L | 29 | 3 | 3 | 5.80 | 39 | 1 | 49.7 | 52 | 32 | 9 | 32 | 45 | 5.84 |
| Connor Curlis | L | 25 | 5 | 7 | 6.52 | 20 | 19 | 87.0 | 99 | 63 | 19 | 50 | 65 | 6.42 |
| Kyle Dowdy | R | 29 | 4 | 5 | 6.20 | 35 | 4 | 65.3 | 71 | 45 | 13 | 40 | 58 | 6.01 |
| Nick Howard | R | 29 | 1 | 2 | 6.46 | 38 | 0 | 39.0 | 41 | 28 | 7 | 30 | 35 | 6.18 |
| Player | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | BB% | K% | BABIP | ERA+ | ERA- | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tyler Mahle | 10.1 | 3.3 | 1.2 | 8.5% | 26.3% | .303 | 115 | 87 | 3.4 | Ed Halicki |
| Sonny Gray | 9.8 | 3.6 | 1.1 | 9.5% | 25.9% | .279 | 124 | 80 | 3.3 | Dave Stieb |
| Luis Castillo | 9.7 | 3.3 | 0.9 | 8.7% | 25.6% | .295 | 133 | 75 | 4.7 | Orel Hershiser |
| Reiver Sanmartin | 7.9 | 2.7 | 1.4 | 7.0% | 20.4% | .301 | 105 | 95 | 1.7 | Ray Fontenot |
| Hunter Greene | 9.6 | 3.4 | 1.4 | 8.7% | 24.8% | .299 | 105 | 95 | 1.7 | Roy Oswalt |
| Tejay Antone | 9.8 | 3.8 | 1.2 | 9.9% | 25.3% | .291 | 110 | 91 | 1.5 | Willard Schmidt |
| Nick Lodolo | 9.4 | 2.7 | 1.3 | 7.2% | 24.9% | .298 | 118 | 85 | 1.2 | Wilfredo Ledezma |
| Lucas Sims | 13.9 | 4.5 | 1.3 | 11.9% | 36.4% | .291 | 132 | 76 | 1.0 | Bryan Harvey |
| Tony Santillan | 10.5 | 4.7 | 1.4 | 11.8% | 26.2% | .297 | 100 | 100 | 1.0 | Ralph Branca |
| Graham Ashcraft | 7.7 | 3.6 | 1.5 | 9.1% | 19.2% | .299 | 92 | 109 | 0.9 | George Stablein |
| Eduardo Salazar | 6.7 | 3.6 | 1.4 | 9.0% | 16.6% | .299 | 90 | 112 | 0.7 | Michael Macdonald |
| Connor Overton | 7.8 | 3.0 | 1.5 | 7.6% | 19.8% | .298 | 99 | 101 | 0.6 | Eric Moody |
| Art Warren | 12.5 | 3.9 | 1.0 | 10.3% | 33.1% | .289 | 139 | 72 | 0.6 | Greg Harris |
| Bo Takahashi | 8.1 | 3.3 | 1.9 | 8.3% | 20.3% | .297 | 86 | 116 | 0.5 | Joe Bitker |
| Vladimir Gutierrez | 7.9 | 3.4 | 1.9 | 8.6% | 19.8% | .296 | 84 | 120 | 0.5 | Mark Clark |
| Luis Cessa | 8.4 | 3.2 | 1.2 | 8.3% | 21.9% | .293 | 107 | 94 | 0.5 | Mike Buddie |
| Amir Garrett | 12.4 | 5.2 | 1.5 | 13.1% | 31.5% | .296 | 111 | 90 | 0.4 | Rod Scurry |
| Alexis Diaz | 10.1 | 5.2 | 1.1 | 13.0% | 25.0% | .296 | 105 | 95 | 0.4 | Saul Rivera |
| Trey Wingenter | 12.9 | 5.4 | 1.5 | 13.7% | 32.6% | .283 | 108 | 93 | 0.4 | J.B. Miadich |
| Jeff Hoffman | 11.2 | 4.9 | 1.3 | 12.4% | 28.0% | .305 | 105 | 96 | 0.4 | Colter Bean |
| Dauri Moreta | 8.7 | 3.1 | 1.2 | 8.1% | 22.5% | .299 | 108 | 93 | 0.4 | Erik Bennett |
| Tommy Milone | 8.4 | 2.3 | 2.2 | 5.8% | 21.6% | .305 | 85 | 117 | 0.3 | Darrell May |
| Riley O’Brien | 8.6 | 4.8 | 1.9 | 11.6% | 21.1% | .297 | 82 | 122 | 0.3 | Greg Aquino |
| Jacques Pucheu | 7.3 | 4.7 | 1.4 | 11.5% | 17.9% | .296 | 85 | 117 | 0.2 | Matt Jarvis |
| Michael Byrne | 6.0 | 3.9 | 1.2 | 9.5% | 14.9% | .297 | 93 | 107 | 0.2 | Jack Cassel |
| Zach Lee | 6.6 | 3.2 | 1.9 | 8.0% | 16.1% | .306 | 81 | 123 | 0.2 | Frank Campos |
| Phillip Diehl | 10.4 | 3.1 | 2.0 | 7.9% | 26.8% | .298 | 100 | 100 | 0.2 | Tom Gorman |
| Justin Wilson | 9.7 | 4.8 | 1.1 | 12.1% | 24.3% | .298 | 103 | 97 | 0.2 | Trever Miller |
| Matt Pidich | 7.8 | 3.7 | 1.5 | 9.4% | 19.6% | .297 | 92 | 108 | 0.2 | Ray Soff |
| Mychal Givens | 11.8 | 4.9 | 1.7 | 12.4% | 30.2% | .282 | 96 | 104 | 0.1 | John Hudek |
| Michael Mariot | 6.8 | 3.2 | 2.0 | 8.0% | 16.9% | .298 | 80 | 125 | 0.1 | Dave Telgheder |
| Brandon Bailey | 8.8 | 5.4 | 1.8 | 13.0% | 21.3% | .297 | 81 | 124 | 0.1 | Derrick Lewis |
| Ryan Hendrix | 10.4 | 5.3 | 1.4 | 13.0% | 25.6% | .305 | 96 | 104 | 0.1 | Kevin Barry |
| Brad Brach | 10.0 | 5.4 | 1.3 | 13.3% | 24.9% | .305 | 96 | 104 | 0.0 | Ryne Duren |
| Diomar Lopez | 7.6 | 3.7 | 1.4 | 9.2% | 18.9% | .298 | 92 | 109 | 0.0 | Rocky Childress |
| Tim Adleman | 8.2 | 2.9 | 2.2 | 7.4% | 20.6% | .298 | 82 | 121 | 0.0 | Travis Driskill |
| R.J. Alaniz | 9.2 | 4.4 | 1.5 | 11.0% | 23.0% | .299 | 94 | 107 | 0.0 | Gregg Olson |
| Josh Osich | 8.2 | 3.2 | 1.7 | 8.2% | 20.9% | .300 | 91 | 110 | 0.0 | Brian Shouse |
| Ricky Salinas | 7.7 | 4.5 | 2.0 | 10.8% | 18.6% | .305 | 77 | 129 | -0.1 | Edwardo Sierra |
| Eddy Demurias | 7.0 | 4.9 | 1.2 | 11.8% | 17.1% | .299 | 90 | 111 | -0.1 | Julio DePaula |
| Daniel Duarte | 7.3 | 4.4 | 1.5 | 10.8% | 18.0% | .297 | 86 | 116 | -0.1 | Mike Gardner |
| Braden Shipley | 8.4 | 4.3 | 2.1 | 10.4% | 20.4% | .302 | 79 | 126 | -0.1 | Chuck Smith |
| Miguel Figueroa | 9.2 | 5.6 | 1.5 | 13.5% | 22.4% | .298 | 88 | 114 | -0.2 | Mike Madden |
| Mac Sceroler | 7.7 | 3.9 | 2.2 | 9.4% | 18.8% | .303 | 75 | 134 | -0.3 | Mitch Wylie |
| Brandon Finnegan | 8.2 | 5.8 | 1.6 | 13.8% | 19.4% | .301 | 81 | 123 | -0.4 | Todd Rizzo |
| Connor Curlis | 6.7 | 5.2 | 2.0 | 12.3% | 15.9% | .297 | 72 | 139 | -0.5 | Cristian Gonzalez |
| Kyle Dowdy | 8.0 | 5.5 | 1.8 | 13.1% | 19.0% | .304 | 76 | 132 | -0.6 | Steve Green |
| Nick Howard | 8.1 | 6.9 | 1.6 | 16.0% | 18.7% | .301 | 73 | 137 | -0.6 | James Warden |
[A previous version of this table had an incorrect projection for Luis Castillo. I had accidentally flipped the MLBAM UIDs for Luis Castillo of the Reds and Luis Castillo of the Diamondbacks (at least their minors). So Castillo had a rather odd projection which consisted of the right Luis Castillo up until 2021. -DS]
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I really am surprised India is projected for another nearly 4 win season. I like him a lot, but based on his MiLB history, I sort of thought this might be his peak already. He turned 25 today, so it’s not even as though he’s a SUPER youngster who made it.
I love India’s profile. He’s going to be a solid leadoff guy for a while. It’s not that common to find a guy who gets on base at that clip without so much power that you want to stick them #2. Nimmo is sort of the prototypical leadoff guy for that reason, and while I think it would be too optimistic to think India’s going to regularly post .400 OBPs I could very easily see him regularly in the .375 area.
He has just enough power to keep pitchers honest, so he should be able to maintain a strong OBP without having to rely on elite contact skills like guys like Arraez and Madrigal.
(As I typed that, I got a big burst of appreciation for the greatness of Jose Ramirez, who is what India’s ceiling would be if he had better hit, power, speed, and defensive tools. )
Yeah definitely chalk this one up on the “bullish” list for ZiPS. In the past 60 years there have been 15 2B post a FG WAR between 3-5 in their age 24 season. Two were last season! India and Albies. The average WAR of that group the next season was 2.5. Still a solid, above average player, but my point is that it’s hard to replicate a performance like that. India is a really good player though and looks to have a good, balanced profile.
That Hunter Greene comp will bring lots of smiles to Reds fans faces. I’d love to see Votto to beat Father Time for one more year at least but only Tom Brady defeats Father Time and Votto had been in steep decline before his resurgent 2021.
Except he really did make some major changes to his approach
That is true and his statcast expected stats said he should have had much better numbers in ‘19 and 2020.
The resurgence started in 2020 when as carter explains he changed his approach. 200 games is not a fluke. Expect him to be a quality hitter in the last two years of his contract.
Hunter Greene pulling a Roy Oswalt comp was not something I expected to see
It surprised me a bit, honestly. And I imagine if he’s even two thirds of the pitcher Oswalt was, Reds fans would be extremely pleased.
Oswalt was a Reds killer though. Career 23-3 with a 2.81 ERA over 218 innings against the Reds. So hopefully Hunter Greene doesn’t end up killing his own team quite that badly.
In fairness Oswalt was a killer against all teams
I get that management probably thought that this team had peaked and there wasn’t a whole lot more they could do, but these half-measures of steadily slicing salary off, moving backward while not actually improving the team for the future is going to be a disaster for them. This team either needs to extend Castillo and Mahle or trade them*…either they need to be part of the team in 2024-2026 with India, Stephenson, Greene, and Lodolo (and Barrero if he’s any good) or they need to swap them for guys who will be.
I’m pretty agnostic about which direction they should take with either or both of them, but they need to pick a lane. If they lose them in a couple of years right as the rest of the guys are coming into their own it’s going to be like treading water forever.
*I am not sure about Winker since his platoon splits make him tough to evaluate for an extension
While I agree they need to pick a lane (the Miley decision was odd and shortsighted from every angle), I think the idea that they must trade or extend two pitchers or it’s a disaster is crazy. They have them for three more seasons. A lot can happen in three seasons. A hold on them isn’t necessarily a bad play; if other teams don’t want to pony up and deal for Castillo and Mahle, then hold onto them.
Winker? For me he’s the easy call to trade, given his splits. Call Cashman right away.
EDIT: I think I misread Castillo and Mahle’s FA and they’re only under team control for two seasons rather than three. In that case, I agree with your point wholeheartedly!
I keep misreading that on FG too.
That extra year is a big, big difference. It seems like you get the most in return per future expected wins when you trade players with two years left–not a rental, but it’s possible to meet the actual return. Whereas trading top-notch players with more than two years left means trading away so much value it’s hard to get full value in return.
I do think there is some benefit in hanging on to players when others don’t meet your asking price, at least from a game theory perspective if nothing else. But they also need to figure out a way to have these guys (or someone else if not them) playing for them from 2024-2026.
Yes, it’s a huge difference even though it’s one year. And I’m with you on the “three years or more idea.” It’s difficult to get full value. It’s why it’s difficult to figure what the Pirates would fetch with Reynolds.
The more I look at the Yankees, the more I see a match. Either with Winker (lefty bat, which they seem to be lusting after) or Mahle (their rotation is ultra questionable after Cole). I think guys like Torres/German would have more appeal to Cincinnati, given the years of control. And why not Torres? He can be added to the endless revolving door of 3B-turned-into-an-OF they seem hellbent on collecting.
Eh, Torres only has one year of control left and German only has three. I’m not sure who is still looking for starting pitching but the Yankees system is not very good aside from Volpe. Maybe Peraza would be available. I’m not sure who else would be targeting starting pitching. Maybe the Reds would accept a package from the Mets structured around Ronny Mauricio for Castillo with some strong secondary pieces, or from the Padres around Hassell or Campusano. Mahle’s a prime extension candidate since he’s so young, but he’s not as good, so you could imagine a lot of teams in on him…in addition to the Mets and Padres, you could imagine the Blue Jays and Mariners
Torres and German are FA’s after 24, no? Anyway I’d think those two plus Peraza seems pretty good. Mahle is a good extension candidate yes, but I just can’t fully get behind the idea they should do a whole tear down. Especially given they’ll have over 40 million free after 23 if they decline both Votto and Moose. I think they can reallocate and get some more years of control by making a few trades, but I think peeling all of Gray/Castillo/Mahle/Winker off isn’t a good idea.
Ah yes, I was mixing up Torres and Gary Sanchez. Whoops.
In any case, I would want guys with a bit more team control than Torres and German if I were the Reds. But I also think that they don’t have to trade them if they can get an extension down. The ideal situation for them would probably be to extend Mahle, trade Castillo for a really good return, and potentially one of Winker or Gray. But I think the most likely scenarios are:
1) They do nothing, except maybe dump Gray for peanuts
2) They will not get their asking price on Castillo, so they’ll trade Mahle to a team that will extend him, and then eject Gray for peanuts.
Which sounds not good, no? But probably what they will do.
Excellent point and explanation. The worst thing teams in this situation can do is sit and do nothing. Surely a Major League team’s management can figure that out. (unless of course you are the Rockies).
This team could have been sneaky good if they chose to supplement it in FA
Definitely a playoff team if not for the shameful dumping of Raisel Iglesias.
I think they definitely are; frankly I think they’d be better off readjusting their philosophies. They seem to not care about defense at all and that seems odd.
Philadelphia, too. They’re a good defense away from being contenders
Joe Charboneau! Someone else remembers him!
I’m curious why Luis Castillo is only getting a 129 inning projection. He’s been one of the more durable starters in the league since he broke in
He’s thrown more innings than Mahle in each of the past 5 seasons, yet is somehow projected for 40 fewer innings in 2022. This does not seem to make any sense.
Looks like it has him down for 20 starts and 13 relief appearances for some reason?
Does Dan actually look at these before posting?
This is being nicely downvoted, but it would be helpful to have an explanation as to why Dan/ZiPS has Castillo making 13 relief appearances next year, while Mahle makes none.
Also curious why Castillo’s top comp is a guy who had a 3.59 k/9.
I have to check that out, that’s one thing I missed. There’s no way that’s right.
Found it and it’s fixed in the charts. I’ve explained what went wrong after the chart.
I’m usually up on comments, but I had a minor outpatient procedure yesterday and didn’t check the comments, outside of the first few before I left the house, until this morning.
Sorry to hear that Dan, hope you are feeling OK. This might be a dumb question, but how do Castillo and Mahle end up with the same projected WAR when Castillo is projected for more innings and a lower FIP?
Might you have seen it mid-update? I was still editing when I posted and you might have beaten me to the punch?
Also, as to the other issue of his original comp, that was better than league-average K rate at that point in history.
Thanks Dan, makes much more sense now!
This team was surprisingly better than I expected. Aside from center and right field, they have a decent player at each position and the pitching staff is pretty solid. To me, this team seems much better than the Cubs, yet the Cubs just signed Stroman and the Reds are rumored to be sellers. I think a key free agent signing or two and they could be favorites to win the NL Central.
Winker’s PAs are more than 100 less with Zips (compared to Depth Chart and Steamer). Is it just extrapolating from last year?
Couldn’t think of a better candidate for Andrelton Simmons. They’re atrocious defensively.
I think it’s probably time to see what Barrero has to offer. I’m not sure where Simmons goes after that awful last year. Maybe back to the Twins or Angels. Or the A’s, if they think Nick Allen needs more time at AAA, or the Astros as Jeremy Pena insurance. I’d have to imagine the Yankees and Phillies would consider a lot of other options before going to Simmons, although he’s theoretically a candidate there as well.
I don’t see why Barrero shouldn’t be given every chance to win that job. I don’t see him being worse with the bat, and he’s pretty good with the glove.
I wonder what Wade Miley’s real worth would have been to the Reds, given that he’d replace something like their worst 25 or so starts. What’s the negative WAR likely to be from that group?
I’m amazed at how closely ZiPS and Steamer agree on Hunter Greene’s 2022 projections.
Today I learned that Logan Morrison is still in the league?! I haven’t thought about that guy since like 2014. I had to click over to make sure it was the same dude. (It is)