2022 ZiPS Projections: Miami Marlins
After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for a decade. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the Miami Marlins.
Batters
We’ll get the bad news out of the way first because, well, that’s the order we do these blurbs in. There’s a lot to like about the Miami Marlins, but most of those things are on the pitching side. The offensive holes aren’t so deep as to prevent baseballs or electromagnetic radiation from escaping. But the offense is thoroughly uninspiring wherever you look. The lineup is neither good nor particularly young, and as such, it will likely struggle to push the Marlins to be much better than the National League’s 14th-ranked offense in runs scored, Miami’s 2021 mark.
Even more concerning is that the better-performing players are mostly already in their decline phase. Miguel Rojas, Jesús Aguilar, and Jacob Stallings are already on the wrong side of 30 and not the kind of awesome where there’s a lot of room for a soft landing, though Stallings’ glove ought to make him valuable longer than the other two, especially Aguilar. While I hate to discourage the Marlins from investing in free agents, it’s hard to envision Avisaíl García really doing much to improve the team.
ZiPS isn’t that much more optimistic about the future of the lineup than it is the present. Jesús Sánchez is the only position player on the team projected to have at least 10 WAR remaining in his career (Jazz Chisholm Jr. just missed). The computer is understandably quite worried about JJ Bleday. While he destroyed pitchers at Vanderbilt, that was three years ago. He just hasn’t hit in the minor leagues so far and was likely hindered by not playing in real games in 2020. Already 23 with no upper minors experience, it wasn’t a stretch to say that 2021 was a make-or-break type of season, and with a sub-.700 OPS for Double-A Pensacola, it didn’t fall on the good side. His performance in the Arizona Fall League was something, but the AFL also isn’t an exceptionally high level of competition relative to the high minors. Bleday’s not a bust, but he’s got to turn things around very quickly now.
Pitchers
Now we come to the reason ZiPS think the Marlins can approach .500, despite a terrible lineup. Sandy Alcantara is the cream of an impressive comp and 2021 was his coming-out show. He knocked that final walk-per-nine off his walk rate, and ZiPS still thinks he isn’t striking as many batters as he could given his stuff and plate discipline results. His five-year, $56 million contract was a bargain for the Marlins. Don’t grumble about the Ben McDonald comp; Big Ben is arguably one of the most underrated pitchers of the 1990s because of the occasionally popular belief that he disappointed. But 21 career WAR is above the average expectation for any draft pick; it was injuries that derailed his career, not lack of awesomeness.
Similarly, ZiPS anticipates little true regression from Trevor Rogers. Unlike many surging pitcher Rookie of the Year candidates, Rogers actually underperformed his FIP (it’s usually the other way around), and his missed time was due to family-related COVID issues rather than an injury. Pablo López projects as another near-All-Star candidate. And at the back of the rotation, the Marlins have a whole stable of lively arms of all sorts, though many in this group have one big worry, whether it’s injury (Sixto Sánchez), command (Jesús Luzardo), or maybe ZiPS just going too nuts about a bonkers debut (Jake Eder). Miami can easily put together an above-average rotation with arms to spare. If the franchise proves surprisingly willing to splash cash this spring, the offense is a much better target.
The bullpen projects as respectable, though less dominating than the rotation. Led by Dylan Floro, Richard Bleier, and the Tony B’s, nobody’s projected to be a late-inning terror, but they’ll be able to protect most of the occasional leads the offense gives them. If only the Marlins could win games zero-to-negative-one. The projections may underrate the bullpen simply because the depth of the rotation and the various injury concerns among the starters could result in some of those live arms finding at least a temporary home in relief. Frankly, I’d put Luzardo here to iron out his issues, but the team didn’t ask me.
The Marlins could be a really good team if the offense holds up its end of the workload. Unfortunately, that means the Marlins probably won’t be a really good team.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here.
| Player | B | Age | PO | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Miguel Rojas | R | 33 | SS | 527 | 483 | 56 | 129 | 25 | 2 | 8 | 47 | 34 | 68 | 11 | 4 |
| Jacob Stallings | R | 32 | C | 376 | 336 | 34 | 83 | 16 | 1 | 7 | 40 | 34 | 81 | 0 | 0 |
| Brian Anderson | R | 29 | 3B | 427 | 376 | 46 | 95 | 19 | 1 | 14 | 51 | 39 | 100 | 5 | 1 |
| Joey Wendle | L | 32 | 3B | 463 | 425 | 60 | 114 | 26 | 4 | 9 | 42 | 24 | 91 | 9 | 5 |
| Jesús Sánchez | L | 24 | RF | 459 | 417 | 51 | 102 | 15 | 3 | 19 | 58 | 34 | 124 | 2 | 2 |
| Avisaíl García | R | 31 | RF | 509 | 463 | 59 | 118 | 21 | 1 | 20 | 66 | 32 | 122 | 7 | 4 |
| Jesús Aguilar | R | 32 | 1B | 457 | 402 | 48 | 102 | 18 | 0 | 18 | 75 | 44 | 93 | 0 | 0 |
| Lewin Díaz | L | 25 | 1B | 476 | 442 | 52 | 107 | 20 | 2 | 20 | 55 | 26 | 108 | 1 | 0 |
| Jazz Chisholm Jr. | L | 24 | 2B | 511 | 464 | 66 | 106 | 16 | 6 | 19 | 55 | 38 | 161 | 20 | 8 |
| Garrett Cooper | R | 31 | RF | 329 | 291 | 39 | 76 | 12 | 1 | 11 | 39 | 32 | 87 | 1 | 1 |
| Jon Berti | R | 32 | 3B | 309 | 268 | 42 | 64 | 11 | 1 | 5 | 24 | 33 | 70 | 13 | 5 |
| Bryson Brigman | R | 27 | SS | 451 | 407 | 43 | 95 | 17 | 3 | 5 | 28 | 33 | 83 | 7 | 4 |
| Bryan De La Cruz | R | 25 | RF | 539 | 493 | 58 | 133 | 21 | 3 | 14 | 50 | 36 | 123 | 3 | 4 |
| Griffin Conine | L | 24 | RF | 456 | 418 | 46 | 90 | 13 | 1 | 23 | 56 | 32 | 184 | 2 | 1 |
| Isan Díaz | L | 26 | 3B | 453 | 401 | 51 | 89 | 17 | 2 | 10 | 42 | 48 | 121 | 4 | 3 |
| Nick Fortes | R | 25 | C | 389 | 349 | 48 | 79 | 15 | 2 | 9 | 38 | 28 | 73 | 4 | 1 |
| Alex Jackson | R | 26 | C | 311 | 276 | 33 | 50 | 10 | 1 | 13 | 33 | 22 | 123 | 1 | 0 |
| JJ Bleday | L | 24 | RF | 444 | 397 | 54 | 88 | 17 | 2 | 13 | 41 | 41 | 105 | 3 | 2 |
| Monte Harrison | R | 26 | CF | 351 | 317 | 39 | 64 | 10 | 1 | 11 | 33 | 26 | 137 | 20 | 4 |
| Peyton Burdick | R | 25 | CF | 456 | 399 | 48 | 81 | 16 | 2 | 16 | 42 | 47 | 140 | 5 | 4 |
| Dustin Fowler | L | 27 | CF | 453 | 421 | 48 | 98 | 14 | 3 | 12 | 43 | 24 | 130 | 8 | 2 |
| Victor Victor Mesa | R | 25 | CF | 413 | 384 | 39 | 89 | 9 | 2 | 3 | 24 | 20 | 78 | 8 | 2 |
| Charles Leblanc | R | 26 | 3B | 449 | 411 | 49 | 87 | 14 | 2 | 10 | 40 | 34 | 137 | 4 | 2 |
| José Devers | L | 22 | SS | 145 | 132 | 16 | 30 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 11 | 9 | 29 | 1 | 0 |
| Payton Henry | R | 25 | C | 374 | 340 | 35 | 68 | 12 | 1 | 8 | 29 | 22 | 128 | 0 | 1 |
| Brian Navarreto | R | 27 | C | 224 | 206 | 20 | 42 | 8 | 0 | 6 | 18 | 11 | 52 | 0 | 0 |
| Deven Marrero | R | 31 | 3B | 313 | 285 | 35 | 58 | 9 | 1 | 7 | 26 | 25 | 90 | 4 | 1 |
| Luis Marté | R | 28 | SS | 276 | 260 | 26 | 56 | 9 | 0 | 4 | 20 | 11 | 71 | 6 | 2 |
| Joe Panik | L | 31 | 3B | 360 | 326 | 33 | 78 | 14 | 1 | 4 | 26 | 28 | 44 | 3 | 1 |
| Luis Aviles Jr. | R | 27 | SS | 328 | 301 | 30 | 61 | 13 | 1 | 8 | 28 | 19 | 97 | 13 | 3 |
| Troy Johnston | L | 25 | 1B | 481 | 440 | 63 | 103 | 18 | 1 | 10 | 46 | 34 | 113 | 3 | 1 |
| Joe Dunand | R | 26 | 3B | 400 | 361 | 37 | 70 | 14 | 1 | 7 | 31 | 25 | 119 | 0 | 0 |
| Erik González | R | 30 | 3B | 265 | 250 | 23 | 58 | 10 | 1 | 3 | 23 | 11 | 57 | 3 | 2 |
| Lorenzo Quintana | R | 33 | 1B | 308 | 286 | 32 | 68 | 13 | 1 | 8 | 28 | 15 | 70 | 2 | 2 |
| Santiago Chávez | R | 26 | C | 219 | 203 | 13 | 33 | 5 | 0 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 75 | 1 | 0 |
| Tevin Mitchell | R | 25 | LF | 108 | 96 | 8 | 15 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 6 | 8 | 37 | 1 | 1 |
| Lewis Brinson | R | 28 | LF | 438 | 406 | 40 | 87 | 17 | 2 | 11 | 44 | 25 | 124 | 6 | 2 |
| Galli Cribbs Jr. | L | 29 | SS | 232 | 211 | 18 | 35 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 13 | 14 | 88 | 3 | 1 |
| Devin Hairston | R | 26 | SS | 346 | 318 | 29 | 55 | 10 | 1 | 4 | 20 | 23 | 119 | 3 | 2 |
| Demetrius Sims | R | 26 | SS | 346 | 310 | 32 | 56 | 11 | 1 | 5 | 21 | 26 | 125 | 10 | 5 |
| Chris Chinea | R | 28 | 1B | 244 | 229 | 23 | 50 | 9 | 0 | 5 | 19 | 12 | 64 | 0 | 1 |
| Ray-Patrick Didder | R | 27 | SS | 385 | 342 | 40 | 64 | 13 | 2 | 5 | 23 | 31 | 113 | 13 | 5 |
| Tristan Pompey | B | 25 | LF | 202 | 181 | 25 | 35 | 7 | 0 | 3 | 16 | 18 | 65 | 1 | 1 |
| Brian Miller | L | 26 | CF | 484 | 447 | 51 | 108 | 18 | 3 | 3 | 32 | 28 | 98 | 24 | 7 |
| Cobie Vance | R | 24 | 3B | 440 | 397 | 45 | 84 | 16 | 1 | 4 | 25 | 31 | 91 | 6 | 0 |
| Justin Twine | R | 26 | 2B | 326 | 301 | 27 | 57 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 22 | 14 | 112 | 8 | 2 |
| Will Banfield | R | 22 | C | 347 | 322 | 33 | 54 | 10 | 1 | 6 | 28 | 18 | 112 | 1 | 0 |
| Zack Kone | R | 25 | 3B | 258 | 239 | 22 | 42 | 7 | 1 | 3 | 15 | 18 | 91 | 3 | 1 |
| Davis Bradshaw | L | 24 | LF | 281 | 262 | 30 | 58 | 8 | 1 | 3 | 18 | 11 | 58 | 4 | 4 |
| Lazaro Alonso | L | 27 | 1B | 361 | 319 | 36 | 62 | 11 | 0 | 8 | 28 | 39 | 127 | 1 | 1 |
| Riley Mahan | L | 26 | 2B | 382 | 350 | 33 | 66 | 13 | 1 | 7 | 27 | 23 | 136 | 2 | 2 |
| J.D. Orr | L | 25 | LF | 284 | 258 | 21 | 57 | 8 | 2 | 2 | 10 | 24 | 63 | 13 | 7 |
| Corey Bird | L | 26 | RF | 327 | 298 | 29 | 64 | 11 | 2 | 5 | 21 | 25 | 73 | 11 | 2 |
| Jerar Encarnación | R | 24 | RF | 429 | 396 | 41 | 79 | 14 | 1 | 11 | 36 | 28 | 151 | 5 | 4 |
| J.D. Osborne | R | 26 | 1B | 254 | 234 | 24 | 44 | 8 | 0 | 5 | 21 | 13 | 81 | 1 | 0 |
| Player | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS+ | ISO | BABIP | RC/27 | Def | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Miguel Rojas | .267 | .321 | .377 | 90 | .110 | .297 | 4.5 | 6 | 2.4 | Edgar Renteria |
| Jacob Stallings | .247 | .320 | .363 | 86 | .116 | .306 | 4.2 | 11 | 2.4 | Geno Petralli |
| Brian Anderson | .253 | .337 | .420 | 105 | .168 | .309 | 5.2 | 0 | 2.0 | Pinky Higgins |
| Joey Wendle | .268 | .320 | .412 | 98 | .144 | .323 | 4.8 | 2 | 1.7 | Jim Davenport |
| Jesús Sánchez | .245 | .307 | .432 | 99 | .187 | .303 | 4.7 | 6 | 1.6 | Hunter Pence |
| Avisail Garcia | .255 | .314 | .434 | 101 | .179 | .305 | 4.9 | 1 | 1.3 | Jose Guillen |
| Jesús Aguilar | .254 | .326 | .433 | 105 | .179 | .289 | 5.1 | 1 | 1.2 | Paul Konerko |
| Lewin Díaz | .242 | .288 | .432 | 93 | .190 | .277 | 4.5 | 7 | 1.1 | Matt Luke |
| Jazz Chisholm Jr. | .228 | .292 | .412 | 89 | .183 | .306 | 4.3 | -3 | 1.0 | Andy Fox |
| Garrett Cooper | .261 | .343 | .423 | 108 | .162 | .337 | 5.3 | -2 | 1.0 | Keith Moreland |
| Jon Berti | .239 | .331 | .343 | 85 | .104 | .306 | 4.2 | 1 | 0.9 | Esteban German |
| Bryson Brigman | .233 | .295 | .327 | 70 | .093 | .282 | 3.4 | 5 | 0.9 | Eric Martins |
| Bryan De La Cruz | .270 | .321 | .410 | 98 | .140 | .334 | 4.7 | -2 | 0.8 | Matt Murton |
| Griffin Conine | .215 | .279 | .416 | 86 | .201 | .318 | 4.0 | 3 | 0.6 | Joe Vitiello |
| Isan Díaz | .222 | .308 | .349 | 79 | .127 | .293 | 3.7 | 0 | 0.5 | Rodney Nye |
| Nick Fortes | .226 | .295 | .358 | 77 | .132 | .262 | 3.7 | -3 | 0.5 | Charlie Moore |
| Alex Jackson | .181 | .268 | .366 | 71 | .185 | .264 | 3.3 | 1 | 0.4 | Jim Horner |
| JJ Bleday | .222 | .296 | .373 | 81 | .151 | .269 | 3.8 | 3 | 0.3 | Chris Richard |
| Monte Harrison | .202 | .272 | .344 | 67 | .142 | .314 | 3.6 | 1 | 0.3 | Damon Mashore |
| Peyton Burdick | .203 | .298 | .373 | 82 | .170 | .267 | 3.7 | -5 | 0.2 | Kevin Belcher |
| Dustin Fowler | .233 | .279 | .366 | 74 | .133 | .308 | 3.7 | -1 | 0.2 | Alexis Gomez |
| Victor Victor Mesa | .232 | .273 | .289 | 54 | .057 | .284 | 2.9 | 9 | 0.2 | Jesus Campos |
| Charles Leblanc | .212 | .272 | .328 | 63 | .117 | .292 | 3.1 | 4 | 0.1 | Bert Pena |
| José Devers | .227 | .285 | .311 | 63 | .083 | .284 | 3.2 | -1 | -0.1 | Chris Gomez |
| Payton Henry | .200 | .265 | .312 | 57 | .112 | .294 | 2.7 | 2 | -0.1 | Alan Probst |
| Brian Navarreto | .204 | .249 | .330 | 56 | .126 | .243 | 2.8 | 1 | -0.1 | Scott Servais |
| Deven Marrero | .204 | .269 | .316 | 59 | .112 | .271 | 3.0 | 2 | -0.2 | Dave Matranga |
| Luis Marté | .215 | .248 | .296 | 48 | .081 | .281 | 2.6 | 3 | -0.2 | John Alva |
| Joe Panik | .239 | .304 | .325 | 72 | .086 | .266 | 3.5 | -4 | -0.3 | Johnny Burnett |
| Luis Aviles Jr. | .203 | .252 | .332 | 58 | .130 | .270 | 3.1 | -2 | -0.4 | Kelly Dransfeldt |
| Troy Johnston | .234 | .294 | .348 | 74 | .114 | .293 | 3.6 | 1 | -0.4 | Michael Paulk |
| Joe Dunand | .194 | .258 | .296 | 51 | .102 | .268 | 2.6 | 5 | -0.4 | Randy Blood |
| Erik González | .232 | .265 | .316 | 58 | .084 | .289 | 2.9 | 0 | -0.5 | Jace Brewer |
| Lorenzo Quintana | .238 | .287 | .374 | 79 | .136 | .288 | 3.7 | -3 | -0.5 | Bill Stein |
| Santiago Chávez | .163 | .220 | .232 | 24 | .069 | .240 | 1.7 | 5 | -0.6 | Gary Tremblay |
| Tevin Mitchell | .156 | .243 | .271 | 40 | .115 | .228 | 2.0 | -1 | -0.6 | Juan Ballara |
| Lewis Brinson | .214 | .268 | .347 | 66 | .133 | .280 | 3.2 | 1 | -0.6 | John Giudice |
| Galli Cribbs Jr. | .166 | .230 | .237 | 28 | .071 | .273 | 1.8 | 3 | -0.7 | Les Dennis |
| Devin Hairston | .173 | .230 | .248 | 31 | .075 | .262 | 1.8 | 7 | -0.8 | Lou Benbow |
| Demetrius Sims | .181 | .258 | .271 | 45 | .090 | .283 | 2.3 | 0 | -0.8 | Brett King |
| Chris Chinea | .218 | .262 | .323 | 59 | .105 | .281 | 2.8 | 1 | -0.8 | Brian Becker |
| Ray-Patrick Didder | .187 | .269 | .281 | 51 | .094 | .263 | 2.6 | -3 | -0.8 | Kirk Mendenhall |
| Tristan Pompey | .193 | .269 | .282 | 51 | .088 | .283 | 2.5 | -1 | -0.8 | Gerad Cawhorn |
| Brian Miller | .242 | .289 | .315 | 65 | .074 | .303 | 3.5 | -7 | -0.8 | Chris Frey |
| Cobie Vance | .212 | .276 | .287 | 55 | .076 | .265 | 2.9 | -2 | -0.9 | Joe Kerrigan |
| Justin Twine | .189 | .235 | .276 | 39 | .086 | .286 | 2.3 | 3 | -0.9 | Enohel Polanco |
| Will Banfield | .168 | .217 | .261 | 30 | .093 | .235 | 1.9 | 5 | -0.9 | Jose Molina |
| Zack Kone | .176 | .236 | .251 | 33 | .075 | .269 | 2.0 | 2 | -1.0 | Jake Wald |
| Davis Bradshaw | .221 | .265 | .294 | 53 | .073 | .274 | 2.5 | 0 | -1.1 | Gary Trammell |
| Lazaro Alonso | .194 | .285 | .304 | 61 | .110 | .293 | 2.9 | -2 | -1.2 | Tate Seefried |
| Riley Mahan | .189 | .245 | .291 | 46 | .103 | .285 | 2.3 | 0 | -1.2 | Mark Farris |
| J.D. Orr | .221 | .292 | .291 | 60 | .070 | .285 | 2.9 | -6 | -1.3 | Buck McNabb |
| Corey Bird | .215 | .279 | .315 | 62 | .101 | .268 | 3.3 | -8 | -1.4 | Kevin O’Connor |
| Jerar Encarnación | .199 | .257 | .323 | 57 | .124 | .291 | 2.7 | -2 | -1.6 | Jon Zeringue |
| J.D. Osborne | .188 | .244 | .286 | 44 | .098 | .264 | 2.4 | -5 | -1.7 | Ray Hansen |
| Player | T | Age | W | L | ERA | G | GS | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO | FIP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sandy Alcantara | R | 26 | 13 | 9 | 3.43 | 32 | 32 | 194.3 | 167 | 74 | 18 | 58 | 194 | 3.42 |
| Trevor Rogers | L | 24 | 10 | 7 | 3.38 | 28 | 28 | 141.0 | 119 | 53 | 15 | 49 | 166 | 3.38 |
| Pablo López | R | 26 | 7 | 6 | 3.66 | 23 | 23 | 113.0 | 104 | 46 | 13 | 28 | 113 | 3.63 |
| Sixto Sánchez | R | 23 | 7 | 6 | 3.64 | 18 | 18 | 99.0 | 96 | 40 | 9 | 24 | 81 | 3.60 |
| Max Meyer | R | 23 | 5 | 6 | 4.35 | 24 | 24 | 109.7 | 108 | 53 | 12 | 49 | 97 | 4.31 |
| Jesús Luzardo | L | 24 | 9 | 10 | 4.50 | 33 | 26 | 130.0 | 129 | 65 | 20 | 55 | 134 | 4.53 |
| Edward Cabrera | R | 24 | 5 | 6 | 4.36 | 21 | 21 | 88.7 | 81 | 43 | 12 | 44 | 97 | 4.44 |
| Jake Eder | L | 23 | 4 | 4 | 4.22 | 16 | 16 | 70.3 | 65 | 33 | 9 | 31 | 72 | 4.25 |
| Braxton Garrett | L | 24 | 6 | 7 | 4.70 | 26 | 25 | 115.0 | 118 | 60 | 16 | 49 | 100 | 4.68 |
| Dylan Floro | R | 31 | 6 | 4 | 3.37 | 62 | 0 | 58.7 | 53 | 22 | 4 | 20 | 53 | 3.33 |
| Daniel Castano | L | 27 | 5 | 6 | 4.68 | 22 | 17 | 100.0 | 108 | 52 | 14 | 32 | 67 | 4.77 |
| Antonio Velez | L | 25 | 4 | 5 | 4.57 | 24 | 14 | 90.7 | 98 | 46 | 13 | 21 | 63 | 4.51 |
| Elieser Hernandez | R | 27 | 3 | 4 | 4.62 | 23 | 19 | 89.7 | 86 | 46 | 17 | 27 | 95 | 4.63 |
| Richard Bleier | L | 35 | 2 | 2 | 3.44 | 57 | 0 | 49.7 | 49 | 19 | 4 | 8 | 36 | 3.44 |
| Zach McCambley | R | 23 | 6 | 8 | 4.83 | 21 | 21 | 98.7 | 104 | 53 | 17 | 33 | 84 | 4.87 |
| Anthony Bender | R | 27 | 3 | 3 | 3.90 | 52 | 2 | 60.0 | 52 | 26 | 6 | 26 | 64 | 3.90 |
| Austin Pruitt | R | 32 | 3 | 3 | 4.33 | 27 | 5 | 62.3 | 64 | 30 | 8 | 15 | 50 | 4.06 |
| Jake Walters | R | 26 | 3 | 4 | 4.66 | 19 | 9 | 65.7 | 67 | 34 | 8 | 30 | 50 | 4.79 |
| Sean Guenther | L | 26 | 3 | 3 | 4.18 | 38 | 3 | 66.7 | 69 | 31 | 8 | 20 | 54 | 4.20 |
| Josh A. Smith | R | 34 | 3 | 3 | 4.69 | 18 | 8 | 55.7 | 59 | 29 | 8 | 18 | 46 | 4.53 |
| Luís Madero | R | 25 | 5 | 7 | 4.88 | 24 | 11 | 79.3 | 84 | 43 | 11 | 31 | 60 | 4.83 |
| Zach Pop | R | 25 | 1 | 1 | 4.07 | 50 | 1 | 55.3 | 52 | 25 | 6 | 23 | 53 | 4.30 |
| Louis Head | R | 32 | 1 | 1 | 4.24 | 45 | 2 | 51.0 | 47 | 24 | 7 | 19 | 50 | 4.36 |
| Steven Okert | L | 30 | 3 | 3 | 4.21 | 47 | 1 | 51.3 | 46 | 24 | 8 | 18 | 58 | 4.23 |
| Anthony Bass | R | 34 | 5 | 5 | 4.25 | 61 | 1 | 55.0 | 50 | 26 | 8 | 21 | 54 | 4.36 |
| Jordan Holloway | R | 26 | 5 | 7 | 5.04 | 24 | 15 | 75.0 | 69 | 42 | 9 | 52 | 72 | 5.02 |
| Will Stewart | L | 24 | 6 | 8 | 5.20 | 20 | 20 | 98.7 | 109 | 57 | 12 | 45 | 61 | 5.04 |
| Josh Roberson | R | 26 | 3 | 3 | 4.71 | 26 | 6 | 49.7 | 49 | 26 | 5 | 27 | 42 | 4.61 |
| Nick Neidert | R | 25 | 5 | 7 | 5.21 | 21 | 19 | 93.3 | 102 | 54 | 15 | 40 | 64 | 5.38 |
| Jake Fishman | L | 27 | 2 | 3 | 4.37 | 37 | 1 | 55.7 | 56 | 27 | 7 | 18 | 46 | 4.29 |
| Paul Campbell | R | 26 | 5 | 7 | 5.11 | 21 | 11 | 74.0 | 80 | 42 | 12 | 27 | 56 | 5.03 |
| Matthew Kent | L | 29 | 5 | 7 | 5.13 | 26 | 12 | 100.0 | 116 | 57 | 15 | 33 | 62 | 5.06 |
| Cody Poteet | R | 27 | 5 | 7 | 5.34 | 17 | 17 | 87.7 | 91 | 52 | 16 | 35 | 72 | 5.24 |
| Brandon Leibrandt | L | 29 | 5 | 7 | 5.33 | 20 | 16 | 77.7 | 85 | 46 | 12 | 31 | 54 | 5.15 |
| Anthony Maldonado | R | 24 | 3 | 4 | 4.76 | 21 | 2 | 28.3 | 30 | 15 | 4 | 9 | 21 | 4.59 |
| Brian McKenna | R | 29 | 1 | 1 | 4.50 | 11 | 0 | 14.0 | 13 | 7 | 2 | 6 | 14 | 4.54 |
| Cody Carroll | R | 29 | 1 | 1 | 4.50 | 34 | 0 | 36.0 | 35 | 18 | 4 | 18 | 35 | 4.26 |
| Preston Guilmet | R | 34 | 3 | 3 | 4.65 | 33 | 1 | 50.3 | 50 | 26 | 9 | 15 | 52 | 4.45 |
| Taylor Williams | R | 30 | 2 | 2 | 4.54 | 36 | 0 | 41.7 | 41 | 21 | 6 | 20 | 41 | 4.74 |
| Zack Leban | R | 26 | 1 | 2 | 4.53 | 37 | 0 | 47.7 | 49 | 24 | 5 | 20 | 38 | 4.33 |
| Robert Garcia | L | 26 | 3 | 4 | 4.56 | 34 | 0 | 49.3 | 48 | 25 | 5 | 26 | 44 | 4.48 |
| Brett Eibner | R | 33 | 1 | 2 | 4.85 | 11 | 0 | 13.0 | 13 | 7 | 2 | 6 | 11 | 5.10 |
| Jackson Rose | R | 26 | 3 | 4 | 4.88 | 26 | 2 | 62.7 | 66 | 34 | 10 | 22 | 50 | 4.90 |
| Tommy Eveld | R | 28 | 4 | 4 | 4.63 | 40 | 0 | 46.7 | 45 | 24 | 8 | 17 | 47 | 4.62 |
| Andrew Nardi | L | 23 | 3 | 4 | 4.62 | 29 | 0 | 48.7 | 48 | 25 | 6 | 22 | 43 | 4.56 |
| Jeff Lindgren | R | 25 | 5 | 8 | 5.46 | 20 | 17 | 90.7 | 103 | 55 | 16 | 34 | 58 | 5.45 |
| Brandon Barker | R | 29 | 2 | 3 | 5.53 | 15 | 11 | 53.7 | 60 | 33 | 10 | 19 | 38 | 5.42 |
| Alexander Guillen | R | 26 | 2 | 2 | 4.82 | 34 | 1 | 56.0 | 57 | 30 | 8 | 24 | 47 | 4.81 |
| Tyler Stevens | R | 26 | 3 | 3 | 4.76 | 33 | 0 | 45.3 | 45 | 24 | 7 | 20 | 42 | 4.86 |
| C.J. Carter | R | 25 | 2 | 3 | 4.86 | 24 | 0 | 33.3 | 33 | 18 | 5 | 16 | 28 | 4.98 |
| Shawn Morimando | L | 29 | 3 | 4 | 5.53 | 20 | 15 | 86.3 | 97 | 53 | 17 | 33 | 69 | 5.43 |
| Colton Hock | R | 26 | 3 | 4 | 4.94 | 42 | 1 | 54.7 | 57 | 30 | 7 | 25 | 44 | 4.77 |
| Aneurys Zabala | R | 25 | 3 | 4 | 4.98 | 36 | 0 | 47.0 | 47 | 26 | 6 | 25 | 41 | 4.82 |
| Jefry Yan | L | 25 | 0 | 1 | 5.23 | 22 | 0 | 32.7 | 31 | 19 | 4 | 23 | 32 | 5.11 |
| Parker Bugg | R | 27 | 3 | 5 | 5.20 | 35 | 3 | 64.0 | 61 | 37 | 12 | 34 | 69 | 5.20 |
| Bryan Mitchell | R | 31 | 2 | 3 | 5.58 | 27 | 7 | 61.3 | 66 | 38 | 10 | 32 | 49 | 5.41 |
| Jorge Guzman | R | 26 | 4 | 6 | 5.81 | 19 | 14 | 74.3 | 72 | 48 | 12 | 55 | 70 | 5.82 |
| Jordan Guerrero | R | 25 | 2 | 4 | 5.50 | 29 | 3 | 54.0 | 58 | 33 | 10 | 27 | 47 | 5.51 |
| Jose Mesa Jr. | R | 28 | 1 | 1 | 6.75 | 14 | 3 | 25.3 | 28 | 19 | 5 | 17 | 19 | 6.38 |
| Dylan Bice | R | 24 | 3 | 5 | 5.37 | 39 | 0 | 52.0 | 55 | 31 | 8 | 27 | 39 | 5.41 |
| Andrew McInvale | R | 25 | 3 | 5 | 5.56 | 34 | 0 | 43.7 | 43 | 27 | 7 | 29 | 41 | 5.58 |
| Mason Melotakis | L | 31 | 1 | 2 | 6.21 | 22 | 0 | 29.0 | 34 | 20 | 6 | 14 | 20 | 6.15 |
| Justin Evans | R | 25 | 2 | 4 | 5.59 | 35 | 0 | 48.3 | 53 | 30 | 8 | 24 | 36 | 5.52 |
| Player | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | BB% | K% | BABIP | ERA+ | ERA- | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sandy Alcantara | 9.0 | 2.7 | 0.8 | 7.2% | 24.1% | .284 | 123 | 81 | 4.3 | Ben McDonald |
| Trevor Rogers | 10.6 | 3.1 | 1.0 | 8.3% | 28.2% | .295 | 125 | 80 | 3.2 | Britt Burns |
| Pablo López | 9.0 | 2.2 | 1.0 | 5.9% | 24.0% | .294 | 115 | 87 | 2.2 | Larry Christenson |
| Sixto Sánchez | 7.4 | 2.2 | 0.8 | 5.8% | 19.5% | .294 | 116 | 86 | 2.0 | Tom Bradley |
| Max Meyer | 8.0 | 4.0 | 1.0 | 10.1% | 20.1% | .300 | 97 | 103 | 1.3 | Joe Bitker |
| Jesús Luzardo | 9.3 | 3.8 | 1.4 | 9.6% | 23.5% | .306 | 94 | 106 | 1.2 | Mark Guthrie |
| Edward Cabrera | 9.8 | 4.5 | 1.2 | 11.3% | 24.8% | .297 | 97 | 103 | 1.0 | Doug Bochtler |
| Jake Eder | 9.2 | 4.0 | 1.2 | 10.2% | 23.6% | .295 | 100 | 100 | 0.9 | Erik Bedard |
| Braxton Garrett | 7.8 | 3.8 | 1.3 | 9.6% | 19.6% | .301 | 90 | 111 | 0.9 | Brandon Claussen |
| Dylan Floro | 8.1 | 3.1 | 0.6 | 8.1% | 21.5% | .292 | 125 | 80 | 0.9 | Chad Bradford |
| Daniel Castano | 6.0 | 2.9 | 1.3 | 7.3% | 15.3% | .295 | 90 | 111 | 0.8 | Charlie Leibrandt |
| Antonio Velez | 6.3 | 2.1 | 1.3 | 5.4% | 16.2% | .296 | 93 | 108 | 0.8 | Butch Henry |
| Elieser Hernandez | 9.5 | 2.7 | 1.7 | 7.1% | 24.9% | .291 | 92 | 109 | 0.7 | Matt Wise |
| Richard Bleier | 6.5 | 1.4 | 0.7 | 3.9% | 17.6% | .292 | 123 | 81 | 0.7 | Steve Mingori |
| Zach McCambley | 7.7 | 3.0 | 1.6 | 7.7% | 19.5% | .298 | 87 | 114 | 0.6 | Jason Rakers |
| Anthony Bender | 9.6 | 3.9 | 0.9 | 10.0% | 24.7% | .291 | 108 | 92 | 0.6 | Bryce Florie |
| Austin Pruitt | 7.2 | 2.2 | 1.2 | 5.7% | 19.0% | .298 | 98 | 102 | 0.5 | Gil Heredia |
| Jake Walters | 6.9 | 4.1 | 1.1 | 10.2% | 17.1% | .294 | 91 | 110 | 0.5 | Greg Booker |
| Sean Guenther | 7.3 | 2.7 | 1.1 | 6.9% | 18.8% | .302 | 101 | 99 | 0.5 | Dana Allison |
| Josh A. Smith | 7.4 | 2.9 | 1.3 | 7.4% | 18.9% | .304 | 90 | 111 | 0.3 | Joey Hamilton |
| Luís Madero | 6.8 | 3.5 | 1.2 | 8.8% | 17.0% | .298 | 87 | 115 | 0.3 | Steve Parris |
| Zach Pop | 8.6 | 3.7 | 1.0 | 9.4% | 21.7% | .297 | 104 | 96 | 0.3 | Cary Hiles |
| Louis Head | 8.8 | 3.4 | 1.2 | 8.7% | 22.8% | .288 | 100 | 100 | 0.2 | Gene Nelson |
| Steven Okert | 10.2 | 3.2 | 1.4 | 8.2% | 26.5% | .290 | 100 | 100 | 0.2 | Eddie Guardado |
| Anthony Bass | 8.8 | 3.4 | 1.3 | 9.0% | 23.1% | .282 | 99 | 101 | 0.2 | Roger Mason |
| Jordan Holloway | 8.6 | 6.2 | 1.1 | 15.1% | 20.9% | .288 | 84 | 119 | 0.2 | Whitey Moore |
| Will Stewart | 5.6 | 4.1 | 1.1 | 10.1% | 13.6% | .299 | 81 | 123 | 0.2 | Wes Whisler |
| Josh Roberson | 7.6 | 4.9 | 0.9 | 12.1% | 18.8% | .299 | 90 | 111 | 0.2 | Rick Steed |
| Nick Neidert | 6.2 | 3.9 | 1.4 | 9.5% | 15.2% | .294 | 81 | 123 | 0.2 | Steve Cummings |
| Jake Fishman | 7.4 | 2.9 | 1.1 | 7.5% | 19.2% | .295 | 97 | 103 | 0.2 | Erasmo Ramirez |
| Paul Campbell | 6.8 | 3.3 | 1.5 | 8.3% | 17.1% | .298 | 83 | 121 | 0.1 | Darren Balsley |
| Matthew Kent | 5.6 | 3.0 | 1.4 | 7.4% | 13.9% | .305 | 82 | 121 | 0.1 | Lee Guetterman |
| Cody Poteet | 7.4 | 3.6 | 1.6 | 9.0% | 18.6% | .288 | 79 | 126 | 0.1 | Jonathan Hurst |
| Brandon Leibrandt | 6.3 | 3.6 | 1.4 | 8.9% | 15.6% | .297 | 79 | 126 | 0.0 | Brian Mazone |
| Anthony Maldonado | 6.7 | 2.9 | 1.3 | 7.3% | 17.1% | .295 | 89 | 113 | 0.0 | Brian Allen |
| Brian McKenna | 9.0 | 3.9 | 1.3 | 9.8% | 23.0% | .289 | 94 | 106 | 0.0 | Lee Tunnell |
| Cody Carroll | 8.8 | 4.5 | 1.0 | 11.3% | 21.9% | .304 | 94 | 106 | 0.0 | Eric Ludwick |
| Preston Guilmet | 9.3 | 2.7 | 1.6 | 7.0% | 24.2% | .299 | 91 | 110 | 0.0 | Kerry Ligtenberg |
| Taylor Williams | 8.9 | 4.3 | 1.3 | 10.8% | 22.0% | .302 | 93 | 107 | 0.0 | Steve Andrade |
| Zack Leban | 7.2 | 3.8 | 0.9 | 9.5% | 18.1% | .303 | 93 | 107 | 0.0 | Rosman Garcia |
| Robert Garcia | 8.0 | 4.7 | 0.9 | 11.8% | 19.9% | .301 | 93 | 108 | 0.0 | Dan Ricabal |
| Brett Eibner | 7.6 | 4.2 | 1.4 | 10.3% | 19.0% | .289 | 87 | 115 | -0.1 | Tom Hume |
| Jackson Rose | 7.2 | 3.2 | 1.4 | 8.0% | 18.2% | .296 | 87 | 115 | -0.1 | Phil Haigler |
| Tommy Eveld | 9.1 | 3.3 | 1.5 | 8.5% | 23.4% | .291 | 91 | 109 | -0.1 | Paul Mancuso |
| Andrew Nardi | 8.0 | 4.1 | 1.1 | 10.2% | 20.0% | .298 | 91 | 109 | -0.1 | Bob MacDonald |
| Jeff Lindgren | 5.8 | 3.4 | 1.6 | 8.4% | 14.3% | .296 | 77 | 129 | -0.1 | Shawn Purdy |
| Brandon Barker | 6.4 | 3.2 | 1.7 | 7.9% | 15.9% | .296 | 76 | 131 | -0.1 | Jim Wilson |
| Alexander Guillen | 7.6 | 3.9 | 1.3 | 9.7% | 19.0% | .295 | 88 | 114 | -0.1 | Kirk Bullinger |
| Tyler Stevens | 8.3 | 4.0 | 1.4 | 10.0% | 20.9% | .295 | 89 | 113 | -0.1 | Matt Ryan |
| C.J. Carter | 7.6 | 4.3 | 1.4 | 10.8% | 18.9% | .286 | 87 | 115 | -0.1 | Joel Moore |
| Shawn Morimando | 7.2 | 3.4 | 1.8 | 8.5% | 17.8% | .303 | 77 | 131 | -0.2 | Brian Abraham |
| Colton Hock | 7.2 | 4.1 | 1.2 | 10.2% | 18.0% | .301 | 86 | 117 | -0.2 | Jeff McCurry |
| Aneurys Zabala | 7.9 | 4.8 | 1.1 | 11.8% | 19.3% | .297 | 85 | 118 | -0.3 | Rick Greene |
| Jefry Yan | 8.8 | 6.3 | 1.1 | 15.1% | 21.1% | .297 | 81 | 124 | -0.3 | Jeff Ridgway |
| Parker Bugg | 9.7 | 4.8 | 1.7 | 11.9% | 24.1% | .292 | 81 | 123 | -0.3 | Marc Deschenes |
| Bryan Mitchell | 7.2 | 4.7 | 1.5 | 11.4% | 17.5% | .301 | 76 | 132 | -0.3 | Ken Ray |
| Jorge Guzman | 8.5 | 6.7 | 1.5 | 15.7% | 20.0% | .288 | 73 | 137 | -0.4 | Bart Evans |
| Jordan Guerrero | 7.8 | 4.5 | 1.7 | 11.0% | 19.1% | .302 | 77 | 130 | -0.4 | Kevin Spicer |
| Jose Mesa Jr. | 6.8 | 6.0 | 1.8 | 14.2% | 15.8% | .295 | 63 | 160 | -0.5 | Mumba Rivera |
| Dylan Bice | 6.8 | 4.7 | 1.4 | 11.4% | 16.5% | .294 | 79 | 127 | -0.5 | Greg Bauer |
| Andrew McInvale | 8.5 | 6.0 | 1.4 | 14.3% | 20.2% | .293 | 76 | 132 | -0.6 | Dennis Kinney |
| Mason Melotakis | 6.2 | 4.3 | 1.9 | 10.4% | 14.8% | .301 | 68 | 147 | -0.6 | Bryan Clark |
| Justin Evans | 6.7 | 4.5 | 1.5 | 10.9% | 16.3% | .300 | 76 | 132 | -0.6 | Greg Perschke |
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This is a somewhat dismal outlook for Jesus Sanchez, who has been touted as a young bat that is going to hit 30+ bombs next year. Even the comp is suspect with Hunter Pence, who at least stole some bases during parts of his career whereas Sanchez does not.
Honestly, I thought ZiPS was going to like him and the rest of the offense a little more. Chisholm, Garcia, Sanchez, Aguilar and Anderson looks like a pretty good core on paper, but sub-20 home run seasons without a lot of on base machines makes for a grim near future. At least this write up is much brighter about the team than it was just a few years ago…
completely agree. particularly with sanchez. i thought he looked great last year
All of those guys are fine as role players but there’s just no star power in the position player group.
Agreed. I think the team would be crazy not to unload some of their young pitching depth for Bryan Reynolds
When you’re striking out almost a third of the time you don’t have a lot of room for error. He’ll be the kind of guy who gets expensive fast in arbitration, at least the old version, but without the OBP you’d want. The best case scenario is probably a bit like Teoscar Hernandez (if he runs consistently high BABIPs) or Adam Duvall (if he turns into a plus defender). But don’t hold your breath.
Chisholm and Sanchez are expected to sit against lefties. If Sanchez can’t hit lefties then he obviously won’t develop into anywhere near a star.
As a Braves fan, this team makes me a little uneasy. That rotation is impressive. You know it’s going to be a grind every time out against them.
Jazz’s projection makes all the sense in the world….but goodness when it’s going right he’s electric.
Is he’s destined to be “The Most Interesting 2 Win Player in the World?”
im a jazz truther. i think he could put together a couple insane seasons, the bat speed is just too crazy
Not happening. Jazz is a very low average hitter.
I mean I could definitely see 30 HR with a .250/.310/.460 line.
and plus defense and 20-30 stolen bases. not a perfect player by any means but plenty of super athletic players make it work.
plus, the kid doesn’t even have 162 games under his belt yet. i’m very surprised to see him written off this much.
I think it’s mainly because he has too much swing and miss and not much plate discipline in his game. And there’s no indications that his defense is plus.
No one is saying he’s bad. He’s got some skills and he’s got some weaknesses. The net is a roughly average player.
Not sure why this is getting downvoted… I’m gonna save this comment for later.
He definitely grades highly in fun above replacement haha.
Every time people comp him to Javier Baez I cringe a little. Javier Baez is a huge outlier in every way.
Had a conversation with someone who put Jazz Chisholm top 5 at 2B. Yikes.
If you only watch highlights and never look at stats I could see it haha.
Baez is basically the MLB version of a young, still-athletic Russell Westbrook
Electric in every way, yet the lack of discipline curbs the floor but overall a damned good/great player
That one flaw keeps them from being truly elite
he once got comped to a guy named fox because hes as cunning as one.
he once played a game without striking out just to see what it felt like.
hes so smooth that jazz named itself after him.
hes the most interesting 2 win player in the world.
“i dont always get on base, but when i do i steal 2nd.”
stay thirsty, marlins fans.
Could we create a projection for Hall of Extremely Fun, and base it off his ZIPS?
i’m going to be taking the over on wins for the marlins this year. lets not forget that in addition to all the stable projections for the pitching staff, theres tremendous upside for sixto. which would make this one of the very best rotations in the mlb? maybe?
It’s pretty clear what ngo needs to do if ownership lets her spend. The offense currently has the trappings of “solid depth” if they signed like 3/4 solidly above average hitters. if the dh comes, signing cruz or castellanos might be a good move. as far as rebuilding goes, was this not what the front office would hope for? A solid, cheap core. Now they need to spend and there are absolutely no excuses not to.
” The offense currently has the trappings of “solid depth” if they signed like 3/4 solidly above average hitters.”
I don’t totally disagree, but that “if” is doing some heavy lifting there (and would be very un-Marlins like). Although this isn’t your father’s “never spend” Marlins, it is still a close cousin – “rarely spend”, perhaps.
With the rotation depth in the upper minors, the Marlins are the one team that could make a splash for a center fielder who can hit and who is under team control like Bryan Reynolds or Cedric Mullins. I don’t think they will, but it is theoretically possible.
They could, but it’s likely going to cost them Watson and one of those arms (Meyer?) plus something lower level that is interesting.
Yeah, at least two of Cabrera, Meyer, Watson. And if not all three, some interesting other players instead of the third. I don’t think they’re going to do it. But they could.
I wonder if Oakland would be tempted to move Laureano. No real internal replacement for him, but Meyer and Watson or Cabrera has to be a pretty appealing package coming back if the A’s rebuild rather than re-shuffle
Meyer and Watson would get my attention if they asked about Laureano. It just depends on the degree to which the A’s want to win no fewer than 75 games. Their history under Beane is to try to never be terrible
That is exactly what they should do. We all know “you can never have enough pitching” but Miami has 7 guys that can start now and a couple more highly rated. It seems obvious.
I’m still on the Garrett Cooper hype train! Please stay healthy this season and show the league that you’re the menace you actually are!
And whoa, thanks for putting Jake Eder on my radar. Already projects as a league-average starter, eh? Drafted in 2020 and sent to AA right away where he dominated. That is definitely interesting.
He looked great, but he also blew out his arm and needs TJ. So we’ll see what he’s like in 2023 (or maybe 2024).
Darn, that is a bummer then.
My opinion is, while possibly not supported by WAR projections, FA bats like Schwarber and Soler need to be on Miami’s radar as short term deal candidates. Especially with DH coming. But I think it’s even OK to take a defensive hit in the field if needed. Hope for the best on fly balls. Runs need to come from somewhere, and these two have power that plays anywhere. Good chance Soler at least can be had for cheaper than Avi Garcia.
Ben McDonald and Todd Van Poppel. I remember when having their rookie cards practically guaranteed college tuition. Cut to a year or two later…
As an aside, how weird was that 1990 Topps set?
I have the 1990 sub set of Upper Deck. Perfect condition. Never opened. Jim Thome rookie card and he is a Hall of Famer. But ya Todd Van Poppel was guaranteed to be a star. Same with Ben McDonald. oops.
I missed out on completing the ’90 UD set, but did get the sealed ’91 that had Thomas and Bagwell. If I’m not mistaken, ’90 also had Larry Walker.
Too bad we didn’t know at the time just how many would be floating around.
Injuries derailed Ben McDonald. He was actually great when he played! Van Poppel just sucked hard!
I was just talking about the Todd van Poppel baseball cards a couple days ago. I don’t know what the deal was, but there were kids everywhere who were absolutely convinced that Todd van Poppel was going to be the next big thing and they absolutely had to get his card. It was wild, not sure I’ve seen anything like that before (and since the baseball card market crashed at some point in the 90s it might not have happened after either).
The deal was that he was a big flame-throwing kid from Texas, ie the next Clemens. Not really sure why he didn’t pan out, though I remember him surfacing a few post-bust years later as a fairly serviceable pen guy for the Reds for a year or two.
Edit: did a short bit of reading. Turns out that drafting a high school pitcher with crappy command and giving him less than 50 MiL innings isn’t the best method for development.
Yeah, they signed him to a big league contract to lure him away from strong college commitment. So they wanted to get him to the majors. And while he threw hard, but he threw straight.
I am very surprised about Jazz, I thought ZiPS was big on him for some reason.
Great pitching, at least the starters, but as mentioned, very little hitting. How is Aguilar going to reach 75 RBIs when he is projected for only 402 at bats ? And he doesn’t even hit doubles (18 projected). Seems strange. I expect Miami to add one real good hitting outfielder, which will help.
Is ZiPs able to differentiate Rogers’ (and other players) time missed/not playing due to non-injuries and how does that affect performance in ZiPs eyes?
Sixto gets 1.9 WAR for just over half a season! Imagine if he gives them 30 starts and never pitches sore, he could easily top 5 WAR. He had a similar arm surgery as Pedro Martinez did in the minors! yep, Pedro began his time in the majors as an injury risk a long time ago. Sixto could follow a similar path right to the hall of fame. obviously not likely, but more likely for him than nearly all the guys in the game. He is that talented!
There has to be a way to get Brian Reynolds on this team! I say they trade 2 of the better pitching prospects (Meyer and Cabrera?) and a so-so prospect hitter like JJ Bleday to the Pirates for Reynolds and a guy who is acceptable deep starting pitching depth like Crowe or maybe Peters (might get more). Bleday improves the Pirates LF (that’s rough to say) while not being a big loss to the Marlins. Obviously, the Marlins lose two topflight pitching prospects, but Reynolds is the CF they badly need. He was over 5 WAR last year. If healthy, those two pitchers should be strong starting pitchers in maybe 2024 2-3 WAR). Probably not earlier. Meanwhile this team will have been to the playoffs a couple of times. Its worth it. The Pirates are very far away from the playoffs, and they badly need more pitching prospects. The Marlins need a big upgrade in center to be a playoff team. Win/Win.
That isn’t a good deal for the Pirates unless you sub in Watson for Bleday.
I do not see a Watson listed above or on their most recent prospects page here, but I do not follow the Marlins deeper than Fangraphs. let me see. You’re talking about a guy in Rookie ball and a SS? Too far away for the pirates to be that interested and he does not play OF. but he was drafted 16th in the first round. Doubt the Marlins trade him.
This is a team that could use a free agent bat, I think signing someone like Schwarber, Conforto, or Pederson for 1-3 year mid range contract might be worth it. As a Nats fan something along the lines of the Murphy or LaRoche contracts could definitely boost that offense enough to where you might stay in the playoff race and pull a deadline deal and push for the playoffs if that rotation lives up to its billing. As painful and controversial as it was, I think the last fire sale was justified because they had no pitching. Now with the pitching staff in place, will the new ownership group spend money when they are actually in a position to start contending over the next two offseasons I’m not very confident but we’ll see.
Perderson is no Larouche. Conforto is too expensive for the Marlins owners. Schwarber wants a hitter park. Tommy Pham might do it if he got 2 years. Corey Dickerson would likely take a cheapish deal.
…”it’s hard to envision Avisaíl García really doing much to improve the team.”
Garcia put up 2.9 WAR last season, but is projected for only 1.3 this year?
Feels a little low but last year was his second best season ever. And how much is even a 2 WAR guy really improving the team? They need 4+ WAR guys on that offense.
true. I suggest Brian Reynolds, but he would likely cost dearly in pitching assets.
“How much is a 2 WAR guy really improving the team?”
Somebody didn’t watch a lot of Marlins games last year lol
You could say that about any team
Whattup! I’m typing this from the future and Jazz Chisholm surpassed 10 WAR for the rest of his career.
in his dreams!
Honestly, he needs far too much improvement in his Ks and Walks to expect he become a star. He does everything else well enough to play every day and be solid despite the bad ratio. But 28.8% K rate with a 6.9% walk rate is very bad! if he had a 14% k rate with a 6.9% walk rate then you got a star. If he is walking 14% of the time with a 28.8% K rate, he is a star. A 10% walk rate with a 20% K rate he might be a star. But without a big improvement in his K to walk ratio without doing damage to all else he does you have a decent player who is fun to watch until someone else comes along.
actually, if his glove is good enough that he sticks at SS long term then he will be a star if he can get his K to walk rate down to 3 to 1. But I’m not expecting he stays at SS long term. Again, he does enough elsewhere to play every day at SS or second and not be a hole. But to play long enough and good enough to beat 10 fWAR will require a MUCH better K to walk ratio than he has now. It will take a very fluky BABIP year to be an Allstar.
Kiermayer seems like he’d fit here. Unless they blew their budget on Garcia. They could just go all in on defense and pitching. A team of 2 Win position players and 4 Win rotation could sneak into the postseason and then be very tough like the 1985 Royals.
Marlins beat writers say Sixto hasn’t had the best conditioning so expectations should probably be tempered until we see what shows up in Spring training. That being said, Cabrera and Luzardo probably can exceed expectations here so it may all be a wash on a team production level. I’d say Garcia, Jazz, and Sanchez are low, but nothing that rocks the boat and changes a best case .500 destiny. The important take here for me is this team is going to cost $65m (with no bad contracts moving forward), as well as the ability to move at least 2-3 big names (Meyer, Watson, even Pablo Lopez for the right CF, etc.) and not really impact the MLB team. They could add 2-4 impact players to this on both short and longterm deals and the team gets interesting fast for a bottom 10 payroll. I am imaging them doing something “cheap” (as opposed to Correa, or trading for Reynolds) like trading E. Hernandez and Max Meyer to the Angels/Mariners for Marsh/Kelenic and a prospect or two (swing for the fences with a prospect who lost a little luster), and then call the Rays/Yankees and absorb Keirmaier/Hicks contracts for relatively nothing. All of a sudden team payroll is still around $75m, and that OF projection goes way way way up with longterm hope for CF. They’d still have theoretical money to sign another arm or two, as well as having plenty of trade assets (Watson, Eury Perez, Eder, Bleday – who demolished the AFL, etc.) to go for it at the deadline if it’s worth it. Basically, they aren’t likely good right now, but with that controlled pitching and egregiously low payroll, few teams could improve as fast as them if the owners commit to going for it. Maybe I’m a biased homer, but this validates their upside to me if they stop putzing around and get the final 3-4 players for the roster.
I’m a Mets fan, and if the Marlins can add another bat or two, I could imagine a 2015 Mets-esque season for Miami.