A Sampling of Dubious Superlatives

Jayne Kamin-Oncea-USA TODAY Sports
I have a baseball pet peeve. It’s not the ongoing lockout, though that’s annoying. It’s not batters who endlessly step out of the box to adjust the velcro on their batting gloves. It’s not even my team failing to get a run home from third with less than two outs. My pet peeve is when broadcasts come up with team record statistics that are less than useless.

Today, I’m doing my part to fight back. This article isn’t about analyzing which of those stats are real and which aren’t; it isn’t even about analysis at all. It’s just some dumb statistics of my own that I made up to counter that trope that annoys me more than anything else: “When (basically any event in baseball) happens, the team has an incredible record!” I’ll also give you a baseline, so that when you hear one of these cherry-picked statistics in the future, you can put it into context. Let’s start with home runs.

Worst Record in Games with a Homer

When a player — any player — pops a home run, there’s a decent chance you’ll hear their team’s record in games where they hit a home run. It’s always impressive. That’s mostly an artifact of selection bias; “games where a player hits a home run” mean that your team hit at least one home run, and that’s not a representative sample of the offense. But just because the record is likely to be good doesn’t mean it has to be. You won’t see Ketel Marte getting that treatment, because in the 14 games where he hit a home run last year, the Diamondbacks went 4–10.

Hey, boo! That hardly feels fair. The Diamondbacks were terrible last year! Sure, but what about when they were playing the Pirates?

Marte can’t control the fact that the team was down four runs when he got into one, but that’s kind of the point. Batters don’t have much control over whether their team wins when they hit a homer; all they do is hit the home run (which is a lot more than I do to help their team win). But I dare you, announcers covering a Diamondbacks game: bring up the team’s record in games where Marte hits a home run.

Let’s give out some honorable mentions, too, because this is one of my least favorite announcer tropes. It’s not only hopeless teams that can end up on the wrong side of variance here; the Twins went 9–15 in the 24 games where Josh Donaldson homered. Maybe it’s a Marte thing: Starling Marte’s teams went 4–8 when he left the yard. And even Shohei Ohtani, the human fun fact, wasn’t immune: in the 43 (!) games where he homered, the Angels went 21–22.

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I hope I never have to hear this trope again, but if I do, I hope it’s at least these silly out-of-context versions of it. In aggregate, if a player hit a homer, their team had a .653 winning percentage in 2021. That’s the number to beat when you hear one of these silly statistics, which means that when an announcer brings up Nick Castellanos and the 21–11 mark his team managed when he hit a homer last year, you’ll know that’s solidly average.

Worst Record in Games Scoring Four Runs

This might be an even more frustrating statistic to hear on a broadcast. Of course teams that score at least four runs do better. Cut out a huge chunk of your bad outcomes, keep all of your opponents’ bad outcomes, and see how you did in those games; you’ll obviously do quite well. It’s like asking how often you make your flight when you arrive at the airport two hours early, or how often you get a three in Wordle when you get three letters on your first guess.

That is, unless you’re those poor Diamondbacks. They went an uninspiring 47–46 when they scored at least four runs. For comparison, the Nationals went 48–43. None of those are that surprising, which might make you think this is a boring section of this article, but I’ve prepared a few fun ones to make up for how boring it is that bad teams are bad at both pitching and hitting.

The Padres went 61–25 when scoring four or more runs, good for a .709 winning percentage. Sounds great! It’s also below the league-wide level of .725. The Pirates were awful this year, and they had a better record when scoring four runs than the Padres, checking in at 52–21, or .712. Perhaps the strangest, however, comes on the other side. The Guardians had the ninth-best record when scoring four or more runs, at a robust 68–19. They went 12–63 (!) in the rest of their games and finished with a record below .500. Winning the ones you’re supposed to is a given, but it doesn’t guarantee you overall success.

Worst Record When a Pitcher Goes Five

Poor Kolby Allard. He made 17 starts last year and delivered five or more innings in 14 of them. That means he didn’t get blown out of the game early or leave with injury, giving the bullpen an untenable workload. He had a 4.46 ERA in those starts — and the Rangers went 3–11, a .214 winning percentage. That’s some bad offense, because the average team won 58.7% of the time when the starter went five.

The Rangers lost 102 games last year, so they’re maybe not a great example. But what about poor Mike Minor? He went five or more innings in 25 starts last year, giving the Royals much-needed length to complement their young rotation. They rewarded him by going 8–17 in those games, and they weren’t even that bad on the year. In the three starts where Minor didn’t go five, he put up a grotesque 8.03 ERA — and the Royals went 2–1.

Spare a thought, too, for Luis Castillo. The Reds finished above .500 last year. Castillo had a four-WAR season and went five or more innings 28 times. The team went 11–17 in those starts. When Castillo threw, the team had a huge tailwind — one that went squandered, even when he got his normal workload in. A pitcher going five or more innings exerts a lot of control over the outcome of the game, but not enough to overcome the whims of fate.

Worst Record When Leading After Seven

This one might be my single least favorite statistic to hear, because it’s never presented in proper context and almost always overstates how good a team is. To calculate this split, I removed all doubleheaders from my sample set, because those don’t really get at what I’m looking for. I also removed games that were tied after seven, naturally. From there, I took every game and looked for who was winning after seven and who pulled it out in the end.

As you might expect, everyone is good when leading after seven innings. Across the entire majors — Pirates, Orioles, Diamondbacks, and all — teams had a .900 winning percentage when they led after seven innings of play. With only two innings for the trailing team to catch up, that almost sounds light. And yet, teams with good bullpens frequently get the star treatment using this statistic. You can name almost any setup man and closer; when those two players come in consecutively to protect a lead, their team has done well.

Naturally, the worst team here is those poor Diamondbacks: they had a bad overall record and the worst bullpen in baseball, and they also play in a high-scoring environment. Even then, they went 42–11 when leading after seven innings, a sterling .792 winning percentage. Every team, and I do mean every, did well when in these enviable conditions.

If anyone has a claim to feeling scared about leads after seven innings, it’s Mets fans. The Mets went 41–10 when leading after seven innings, the second-worst mark in the league. That’s not nearly enough leads after seven innings; it’s fewer than the Diamondbacks, for example, despite the Mets winning 25 more games overall. It’s also a strikingly bad mark for a team that sniffed .500; among teams that won even 70 games, the next-worst record when leading after seven belongs to the Red Sox. The Sox went 66–10 — that’s 25 games better than the Mets did when leading after seven with the same number of losses.

If you’re not as annoyed by these throwaway statistics as I am, I’m sorry that I made you sit through this. But if you’re right there with me, I hope this works as an antidote. Next time you hear one of these annoying, not-particularly-informative statistics, you’ll have the proper context. More importantly, you’ll be able to think of Ketel Marte, or Mike Minor, or the entire Mets franchise, as proof that those statistics don’t have to be true, even if they usually are.





Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.

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shortstop
4 years ago

I have a similar complaint about the playoffs: “the team that wins Game 1 wins the series x % of the time!” I mean, who would’ve thought winning a game in a playoff series would be helpful for winning a playoff series?

MikeSMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  shortstop

I always counter that with “the team that wins game 7 wins the series even more often.”

Josh
4 years ago

This was a fun article – thank you! I also am annoyed by “fun facts” that are, in fact, just things taken out of context, probably just by someone in a hurry who didn’t think very hard about what the stat actually means (if anything).

dhakadabay
4 years ago

My favorite: “The team that scores first wins the game x percent of the time.”
Better to rephrase it: if a runner is given a head start, they will win the race more often.”

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago

” the Blue Jays went 9–15 in the 24 games where Josh Donaldson homered”

One wouldn’t expect too much of a correlation there, given that he hasn’t played for them in years! 😀

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  Ben Clemens

No worries – love the article! The offseason is a fantastic time for these fun diversions. Not that there’s ever a bad time…

joe_schlabotnik
4 years ago

maybe the most important article ever written at FG.

but seriously, sometimes I really think i’m watching a different game than the broadcasters — i know its their production crews giving them those stats, but can’t they do better?! Although, I am a nats fan and the MASN broadcast is legitimately the worst one in the MLB (i often listen to the away broadcasts – its confirmed, they are are the worst). they are exceptionally bad and dumb and I am a masochist for listening to their inanity day in day out.

Josh
4 years ago

Hawk Harrelson used to single-handedly make White Sox broadcasts the worst in MLB, but I tend to agree with you about the Nats if you don’t enjoy cringe comedy. I find their radio guy smarmy and his voice makes my skin crawl, so the TV crew became a favorite partly because they are so inept and dorky. FP Santangelo was a complete cornball. He unfortunately also may or may not be a skeeze. But I fully expect the broadcast will be less interesting without him. Johnny Holliday is kind of appealing if you enjoy “old man who is confused but it’s hard to tell because he’s not using proper nouns” vibes. (I mean all these things in a fun way.)

joe_schlabotnik
4 years ago
Reply to  Josh

oh yeah, i used to get a kick out of it. in a way, id rather listen to the ABSOLUTE worst rather than like the, other bottom 10 worst broadcasts, cause their really was an element of it just being so ridiculous. The end of the FP era was definitely overdue, but i’m not sure it’ll get much better unless they scrap bob as well. soto will hit a ball 500 feet and bob will just say “see you later”. its so bad its funny, youre right!

There used to be this promo where people would send in selfies at the ballpark, and FP would use the little stylus drawing tool and scratch the men out of photos with attractive women, and then say “thats better”. I mean you can’t make that stuff up!

joe_schlabotnik
4 years ago

and underrated in it all its horror is how bad the MASN graphics teams is. They play this funny / horrible probably no-royalties generic rock music to show highlights, and then some intern goes in after effects and makes everything black and white except for the red on jerseys. I mean its clear angelos isn’t spending more than the very bare minimum on masn. the website looks like its from web 1.0! its fantastic. Never change, MASN!

treebeardedMember since 2019
4 years ago
Reply to  Josh

Did anyone actually enjoy listening to Hawk?

jtricheyMember since 2021
4 years ago

The worst one to me – So-and-so has had a hit in 11 of his last 17 games.

Most of the time it doesn’t even sound impressive.

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  jtrichey

Right? “During that span he’s hitting .304!” What’s his average on the season? .292!

Joe Joe
4 years ago

Generally speaking, most non-normal splits mentioned overstate things.

cf467
4 years ago

The full-team/series ones are the ones that hurt me the most, like “The Boston Red Sox are 2-2 all-time against the St Louis Cardinals in the World Series, with a 14-10 record.” Great fact, if you’re into that sort of thing, but it’s entirely meaningless…since everyone from the 1946 World Series was long retired in 2013 and franchises have no ‘memory’ otherwise, that fact has as much predictive power as any randomly-selected series of digits.

treebeardedMember since 2019
4 years ago
Reply to  cf467

Yeah, I especially hate this one. This is similar to “Verlander [or insert long-time vet] is 25-4 in his career against the Orioles.” Ok… and who was playing for each team during those games? Utterly meaningless.

Ryan DCMember since 2016
4 years ago

“In aggregate, if a player hit a homer, their team had a .653 winning percentage in 2021.”

I’m curious how you arrived at this. I’m not questioning the math, I mean literally, I don’t even know how I would go about answering this question. Is this a search you can run with a B-Ref subscription or something?

tung_twista
4 years ago
Reply to  Ben Clemens

Your recent articles have been superb even by your standards.
Just to clarify,
if a player A hits two home runs in a game and his team wins,
then he hit a home run in another game and his team loses,
that would count as 50% winning percentage instead of 67%?

NATS FanMember since 2018
4 years ago

Touche

NATS FanMember since 2018
4 years ago

It’s noteworthy that most of the comments on here are NATS fans. LOL.

Dmjn53
4 years ago

This could be a great series. “Baseball Clichés That Are Actually Completely Meaningless”