Anatomy of David Price’s Nine-Hit Disaster

Numbers are the easy part, so let’s start with some numbers. David Price got thrashed by the Yankees, ending with twice as many hits allowed as outs recorded. He was charged with eight runs, all of them scoring in the top of the third, which Price began, but which Price was removed from without getting an out. That third inning saw Price allow nine consecutive hits, the first time that’s happened to a pitcher since 1989. The all-time record for consecutive hits in an inning by a team is 11, and that was in Colorado. Never before had Price allowed nine hits in an inning. Never before had he allowed eight hits in an inning. Never before had he allowed seven hits in an inning. Never before had he allowed six hits in an inning. In Price’s previous game, he one-hit the Rays.

Price on Wednesday got one swinging strike. His previous season low was six. In his regular-season career before Wednesday, he’d allowed at least nine hits just 20 times. He’d allowed at least eight runs just four times. Price set a new career Game Score low, of 2. In Price’s own words: “That was probably the worst game I’ve ever had in my life.” It was an awful game, but really, it was an awful inning. And, technically, it was an awful fraction of an inning. David Price is one of the best known pitchers in the universe.

Maybe it’s enough to just say what’s happened. A nine-hit disaster happened, to an excellent pitcher. Maybe now we ought to just move on. But it seems like we should reflect at least a little deeper. It isn’t often a terrific pitcher gets lit up like this. It isn’t often a team manages to string a bunch of hits together, and nine is extreme. We should go past just the numbers. What in the hell was that top of the third? Can the video show us anything?

Most sensible thing to do is to just go in order. Let’s look at nine hits.

Hit No. 1

Price_Hit (1)

It’s Jacoby Ellsbury and a first-pitch fastball. Alex Avila wanted the pitch on the inside edge. Price threw the pitch on the inside edge, maybe a couple inches higher than the shown target. Ellsbury, though, was all over it. Ellsbury had gotten four fastballs in his previous at-bat, but all of them were away.

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Hit No. 2

Price_Hit (2)

Derek Jeter doing what Derek Jeter does. When Jeter batted in the first, Price worked him inside, successfully. Here Jeter got a hold of a 2-and-1 changeup on the outer black. Again, it’s what Avila wanted, but maybe a few inches high. It’s hardly awful location, given what was requested.

Hit No. 3

Price_Hit (3)

Now we get a mistake. Price wanted to try to freeze Martin Prado with an outer-edge cutter. This cutter, though, ran in, and Prado yanked it past the shortstop on a line. Price this year has a whole ton of called strikeouts, mostly with arm-side cutters and glove-side two-seamers. Hitters think the cutter will dart away, and it doesn’t. Hitters think the two-seamer might hit them, and it doesn’t. The idea here was solid. The execution was poor.

Hit No. 4

Price_Hit (4)

In a 1-and-1 count against Mark Teixeira, Price dotted a fastball right in the down-away corner. The execution followed the idea, and ordinarily that’s a great place to throw pitches, but Teixeira’s a good hitter who’s previously been a great hitter, and he did something great hitters do. It’s hard for me to fault Price for these extra bases.

Hit No. 5

Price_Hit (5)

A first-pitch fastball right on the outer edge to Carlos Beltran. They wanted to throw a first-pitch fastball right on the outer edge. Once more, maybe it was high by an inch or two, but no matter — Beltran was right on it.

Hit No. 6

Price_Hit (6)

The pitch before this, Price threw Brian McCann his first breaking ball of the game. McCann took it for a ball. Price came back with another breaking ball, and this one, McCann covered, even though it wound up in a pretty good spot. Elevated a little, one more time, but it’s not like Price was the victim here of a predictable pattern.

Hit No. 7

Price_Hit (7)

And now we’re into the crappy-hit part of the inning. Chase Headley took two very close changeups for balls. After Price came back with a strike, he threw another changeup to more or less the right spot, and Headley kind of rolled over on the pitch, but his grounder found a gap in the infield. For Price, it was a good outcome and a bad outcome.

Hit No. 8

Price_Hit (8)

The one pitch Price threw down the middle, Brett Gardner slapped softly to short. But, what are you gonna do?

Hit No. 9

Price_Hit (9)

David Price’s last batter wasn’t David Price’s worst batter. In a 1-and-1 count, Price threw Francisco Cervelli a good changeup down and away, and Cervelli was ahead of it, but just like Headley, Cervelli directed his groundball to just the right area to turn the lineup all the way over. Brad Ausmus didn’t really have a choice — he had to come out and replace Price with a reliever. Price might’ve gone on to put himself at risk, and there wasn’t much to gain from leaving him in. But considering Price left having allowed nine consecutive hits, his outing ended with a whimper, and by that I don’t mean his pitches were bad.

Price’s third inning, by pitch locations:

pricechart

The Yankees swung at everything in the zone. You see the nine hits, but of those nine hits, five were on pitches basically right on the edge, and two more were close. It was not an inning in which David Price didn’t make any mistakes, but you look at that and you don’t imagine an eight-run disaster frame. Price is often right around the zone, and he’s often throwing a lot of fastballs and cutters, and there was nothing wrong with his velocity on Wednesday. Bad things happened. Fewer of them should’ve, if baseball were fair.

Was there any hint of struggles to come? Price says he threw a great bullpen, so it’s not like he was off his game from the outset. So let’s entertain another favorite theory: perhaps Price was tipping his pitches. This guy says Price has been tipping his pitches for at least four years. Oh no! No wonder he’s sucked this whole time! More reliably, former pitcher Jensen Lewis suggests Price might’ve had inconsistent arm speeds. The MLB Network team had a back-and-forth about the possibility of pitch-tipping. Clearly, it seemed like the Yankees were right on some tough pitches, and while neither side said anything on the subject after the game, you also wouldn’t expect them to.

But, since when do we ever put stock in something like this? One of the MLB Network hosts proposed that the Yankees are on to something, on the basis of their having gotten to Price for ten hits earlier in the year. But, Price had faced the Yankees since then. The next outing saw two runs and eight strikeouts in seven frames. The next outing saw one and nine in seven. Then, just earlier this month, as a Tiger, Price came an out shy of a complete game in New York, striking out ten. The Yankees didn’t seem like they were on to something. In this particular outing, how did McCann identify a breaking ball Price hadn’t really thrown yet? Why did a couple hitters roll over on changeups? Why did Gardner slap at a fastball down the gut? Why did Derek Jeter attempt to bunt? I’m not an expert on pitch-tipping, and I’m sure that it happens, but it doesn’t seem like a first explanation. It seems like the first explanation should generally be that, that’s baseball. It’s super weird. Sometimes a pitcher allows nine hits in a row and sometimes a pitcher allows one hit in a game and sometimes those games happen back to back.

If I’m the Tigers, I’m not worried about David Price. He had all his stuff and he was generally around his locations. I’m more worried about another loss, and growing concerns about the division and the wild card. David Price, most probably, is fine. That inning, probably, was about good hitting and shit luck. But as much as the Tigers have built a strong roster, armed with weapons like David Price, weapons like David Price aren’t immune to baseball. The Tigers are finding out how senselessly mean this game can be.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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Slugerrr
12 years ago

Lions > Tigers

Napoleon Dynamite
12 years ago

I personally prefer Ligers.

Big Daddy V
12 years ago

His xFIP was fantastic though, so all in all it was a successful game for Price.

Ben
12 years ago
Reply to  Big Daddy V

I would hardly call that a successful game for David Price.

Scott says
12 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Considering the context, tone and obviousness of Ben’s comment here. I’m giving it a “like”. Among the funniest I’ve see. Not being sarcastic.

Ben
12 years ago
Reply to  Scott says

Thank you!

Nate
12 years ago

Great job per usual … Article: (talk, talk, numbers) Here! Let me show you! (awesomeness).
The Gif’s make the article fun to read. Thanks for including them and your commentary. Fun to ‘re-live’ an interesting section of a game I wasn’t able to watch.

Thanks Jeff

RedStalk
12 years ago

Sometimes, BABIP luck is just going to up and ruin your evening.

Descalzo Jose
12 years ago
Reply to  RedStalk

I watched the “9 hit count…up” highlight package on SportsCenter and just kept muttering “Holy BABIP, Batman”

Mephistopheles
12 years ago

As you can see, Mr. Steinbrenner, I continue to hold up my side of the bargain. Continue to hold up yours or do you want to see a repeat of the unfortunate Tanaka situation?

LHPSU
12 years ago
Reply to  Mephistopheles

But dude, you already have Steinbrenner Sr.’s soul.

Descalzo Jose
12 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

Actually, I think he took over from the previous owner and now runs those fire-y depths himself.

Wobatus
12 years ago

On the Yanks radio broadcast they kept saying how everything was up. He wasn’t getting many swinging strikes, at least that inning.

First time in the AL a team got 9 hits in a row since 1996. cards did it last year. But I wonder how many times a team did it from the first batter of the inning. And against one pitcher. I think only the greats like Price get to stick around for 9 straight hits.

uh
12 years ago

you said shit *gasp*

Blootzkloof
12 years ago
Reply to  uh

Don’t gasp for too long son, you gonna get a fly in your mouth

Bobby Ayala
12 years ago

Nice Jeff, thanks for the Gifs.

You mention on more than half those pitches that he missed his location. He also elicited no swinging strikes and had a higher percentage of pitches in the zone (56%) compared to season and career numbers. I know it’s a small sample size, but with the Yanks jumping on early pitches doesn’t it seem like he was just lobbing get-me-over fastballs? That suggests a mechanical/injury issue to me.

i
12 years ago

Essentially the exact opposite of a terrible pitcher, say, Phil Humber, throwing a perfect game.

Who is Zorbist?
12 years ago

” It isn’t often a terrific pitcher gets lit up like this. ”

Actually, for us Rays fans, it’s quite often. I know that “clutch” can’t be measured, for now, but let’s look at David’s past “clutch” performances, in most recent succession.

3rd wildcard vs 4th wildcard with 30 games left: 2 IP, 8 runs
2013 Post Season: 7 IP, 7 R
Game 163 2013. 9 IP, 2 R
2011 Playoff: 6.2 IP, 3 R
EPIC game 162 of 2011: 4 IP, 6 R

His playoff record speaks for itself, so I don’t feel the need to go into it. If there is a big game, an important game, a must win game, you can bet your ass that Price will shit himself. I believe in sabr enough to frequent this site very often, but to never even attempt to find a cause of this is madness. In 3 of his 6 latest most important games, he’s allowed 6 or more runs. Felix, Kershaw, Sale, or Madbum ever done this? Even once?

Jason B
12 years ago

“you can bet your ass that Price will shit himself.”

1) Probably needs some new britches then, and
2) hope you didn’t bet too much on that game 163 then. (Or that 2011 playoff game.)

Methinks you may be reading WAAAAAY too much into a 6-game sample.

Who is Zorbist?
12 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

Methinks if you bet David Price in a big game, you lose, not always but you lose. Thanks for pointing out 1 of those 6 was “ace”-esque. If Price and Felix face off in a 2nd wild card game, I choose Felix. He gave up 17 hits in 12 IP for an ERA of 5 in the 2010 playoffs. Lets up that small sample size of suckitude from 6 games to 8 games.

With 5 games left, and the Rays down 2.5 to the Sox in 2011, Price put up another masterpiece: 6 IP, 5 R.

There you go. His last 9 HUGE games, where the team and fans counted on him most. 9 games. 48 IP. 39 runs. Small samples eventually become larger, and larger, and larger.

Who is Zorbist?
12 years ago

To add a more relevant post than my last one, I’m going to cut and paste a post I made about Smyly last week. The post was about pitch framing, but I believe Avila’s vastly different target than Price’s predacessors applies to this as well. Look at Avila’s targets above. They are there, then when it comes time to throw the pitch, when the head is moving all over, they disappear:

I agree, but it is even more than framing. Watch a video, any, of Avila. He never sets up and gives a target…ever. He just catches the ball where it is thrown. This leads to always stabbing at the pitch, which hurts his framing abilities. More importantly, it doesn’t give the pitcher a target.

I’d never paid attention to this until Price got traded and immediately started walking people. I’d imagine, in the furiousness that is throwing a baseball as hard as you can, a target helps more than “6 inches off the ground, 3 inches off the plate” running through Price’s head as he delivers a pitch.

Here’s a few of Avila. The first time he flashes a target is when the ball is being released, and then his glove is all over the place until it’s time to catch it. The pitcher just has to guess as to where to throw the ball:
http://walkoffwoodward.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Scherzer.gif
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images//visual/whatshot/Justin-Verlander-tigers-curve-ALDS.gif
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2407987/Smyly_pitch_4_1_13.gif

Here is Molina and Lobaton. Targets are up, and they are ready to catch the ball well before it is thrown:
http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/price2011c.gif
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2729257/Cobb_curveball_6-5-13.gif
http://www.fangraphs.com/not/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Cobb-vs-Cervelli.gif

Dave
12 years ago

I don’t believe his walk count is any higher than what it was with the world’s all time Framer Molina. Molina is a good framer because that’s the only body part he can move.

I think Price’s game was everything you don’t want to happen. Yankee hitters making sold contact, Yankee hitters hitting them where they ain’t and I believe Ausmus might want to go to Maddon’s school of defensive shifts.

Preston
12 years ago

I think it’s interesting to note how Ellsbury got to second. After Ellsbury singled he got caught off first, but Cabrera made a poor throw and Ellsbury was able to slide in safe at 2b. Maybe Price pitches Jeter differently if the double play ball were in order? It seems strange to throw something off-speed outside to a guy who at his age struggles to hit good fastballs. Seemed like he was going for a K rather than allowing Jeter to tap it softly to 2b as he’s been doing most of this season against a good FB.

Jon L.
12 years ago

But if you look at the pitch location chart, it looks like most of Price’s pitches within the zone were concentrated near middle elevation. Pitches intended to be at the low edge of the zone mostly floated up, even middle-up or more. It may not explain 9 hits in a row – nothing will – but it sure helps batters make contact and get a little loft on the ball.

Chris Dial
12 years ago

“On the Yanks radio broadcast they kept saying how everything was up.” and what Jon L. said are why they got so many hits in a row. That’s a pitcher struggling with command, and when the catcher is in charge of the pitcher (not the other way) he should have the pitcher bounce one. Sometimes pitchers struggle to get the ball down in the zone, and that is all that happened here (this can be caused by shoulder or back soreness, but not necessarily).

Also the Detroit 3B played the last two hits like he didn’t know what the situation was or anything else. Those were poor fielding plays.

Green Mountain Boy
12 years ago

Very simply…… LUCK of BALLS in PLAY!!!! Statistically-speaking, what are the odds? Don’t know, but intuitively I’d have to say very low, in the 1% or less range. This is baseball. It happens. You watch long enough and INEVITABLY you’ll see something that’s never happened before. And that’s why I love the game.

Bertrand Russell
12 years ago

So he didn’t throw any bad pitches and it was purely luck that put all those balls in play? That doesn’t seem to jibe with what actually happened. A bunch of those pitches were elevated. Is that where he was trying to throw it? I don’t think so, if he misses his target and it gets hit how is that bad luck?