Appreciating the World Series for What It Is
The World Series begins tonight, but given that you’re on FanGraphs this morning, you already knew that. In fact, you’ve probably read one (or more) of the numerous series previews that has been published by any one of the many members of the online baseball community, and are well aware of the fact that this series is a match-up of one of the hardest throwing pitching rotations against an offense that makes an historic amount of contact. This is a clash of styles, a team built around athletes going up against a club that is starting three infielders who probably best fit at third base.
There’s no way around it; the outcome of this series is going to be treated as a referendum on something. If the Mets win, it will be seen as validation that velocity trumps all in October, with a dominating rotation being the key to victory in the postseason. If the Royals win, it will be hailed as evidence that old-school baseball is still viable, and there’s wisdom in loading up on athletes who don’t strike out, since speed never slumps and all that jazz. Because of the significant differences in team construction, and the big stage the World Series is played on, the outcome of the next four to seven games will be required to mean something.
As humans, we like to attach meaning to things, and it’s a more interesting story if the end result has some kind of lesson that everyone can learn from, but just because it’s easy to do and makes for a better narrative doesn’t mean we should fall into that trap.
The World Series is great as a spectacle of two very good teams playing for the right to call themselves champions. We don’t need to dress it up beyond that to enjoy it, and in many ways, trying to force conclusions out of a sample of a week’s worth of games cheapens the entire experience. The Mets and Royals are both very good teams, and realistically, there’s no likely outcome here. The Mets young pitching could dominate, because they’re really good, and throwing hard is one of the reasons why they’re really good. The Royals could use their contact skills to string together a bunch of rallies, because no team in baseball is better at putting the bat on the ball than the Royals.
Or maybe the games will turn on unexpected and unpredictable performances, like what we’ve seen from Daniel Murphy in the first few rounds of this postseason. Maybe Alex Rios will have the week of his life, and carry the Royals offense from the ninth spot in the batting order. Maybe we’ll have a long rain delay tonight, forcing Bartolo Colon to take the hill in relief of Matt Harvey, and throw four or five excellent innings with his 88 mph fastball. The long list of past postseason heroes includes guys like Mark Lemke, Adam Kennedy, David Eckstein, and Edgar Renteria; those guys are part of what makes the postseason so fun, but also make it difficult to try and extrapolate object lessons from the results.
I have no doubt that, with more time and better tools, eventually research will unearth some specific skills and traits that work better in the low run environments and cold temperatures of the postseason, and it’s certainly possible that we’ll be able to look back in some years and see either the Mets or Royals as a data point in a larger trend that helped us understand what types of teams are more slightly more likely to succeed in a tournament format. But if we’re being honest, we’re not there yet. Pretty much every attempt at finding a “secret sauce” has failed when viewed through a longer lens than just the most recent few postseasons, and history has done a very good job of beating back attempts to definitively say that teams with certain characteristics have big advantages over similarly good teams built in different ways.
We should keep looking, of course, and the fact that there hasn’t yet been a proven type of team that continually succeeds in October doesn’t mean there isn’t one, but we should be honest about what we do and don’t know at this moment. And right now, no one really knows how to predict the outcome of a handful of games between evenly matched teams. We can point to potential advantages one team might have over the other, and we can identify the strengths and weaknesses of each club, but whether those things will matter over the next seven days is completely out of our ability to say in advance.
The postseason isn’t about determining hard truths; it’s an entertainment vehicle designed to make every single play as important as possible. We put huge stakes on a handful of events because it makes for great drama, great television, and an exciting few weeks to cap off a season, but when dealing with an outcome that swings on just a few plays here or there, we should hesitate to draw sweeping conclusions from the results. The World Series doesn’t have to mean anything to be enjoyable, and we shouldn’t force narratives onto things that don’t naturally lend themselves to clear understanding of why things happened.
This World Series often proves to be a really fun week, and this year should be no exception, with two enjoyable teams to watch facing off with MLB’s championship trophy on the line. But let’s enjoy it for what it is, and not try to make it something that it isn’t. We’ve got up to seven baseball games left, and hopefully they provide a lot of excitement.
What they won’t provide is a lot of information we can use to make significant claims about the character or abilities of the players involved, and that’s okay; we shouldn’t need the World Series to be an object lesson to find it a worthwhile endeavor.
Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
And…still waiting on some humility from Dave Cameron.
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What’s your gripe with this particular article?
Because his reaction to a team he hates making it to the WS twice in a row is basically “Well, none of it means anything anyways.”
Seems to me you’re either deliberately twisting Dave’s meaning or you’re just not very bright. Cheers!
“Not very bright” winning in my reading by a landslide, based on previous threads.
Don’t blame the commenter. His balls were doing the typing.
Dave has been pretty critical of the Royals, but he’s learned like the rest of us that the A’s/Rays model has its positives and negatives. I think he is actually complimenary now of the Royals for finding an unconventional approach that actually works.
What a surprise, one of the “new readers” doesn’t like Dave. Yawn…
Give the guy a break. There’s nothing arrogant about the piece. He’s expressing a point of view. That’s why (or at least one reason why) people read his columns.
It was a fine piece, though overuse of the hegemonic “we” here and everywhere grates my nerves.
I’m just excited to watch good baseball.
We should be thankful he’s not using the royal “we”. Or, should we say “Royal ‘we'”?
Well said, as always, Dave.
I’d add to your thoughts that we should be glad this series isn’t simply a reflection of the team’s true talents, because if it were, we wouldn’t even have to watch. The fact that this series can be decided by factors that don’t determine how good a team is in the regular season (a hot streak by a utility infielder, a great defensive play by an otherwise poor defender, etc.) is exactly the stuff we remember about the postseason.
Derek Jeter’s “Flip” is one of the greatest postseason moments ever. But if the postseason were just a reflection of true talent, then one of the greatest postseason defensive plays wouldn’t have been performed by one of baseball’s below average defenders. That’s why it’s great; because things we wouldn’t expect to happen very often decide the outcomes of games!
Probably best not to use an example where Jeter was out of position, and Giambi would’ve been safe in the replay era.
The call on the field was out, so they’d require definitive proof to overturn in the replay era. Do have any? It would be worth a lot to you if you did, so by all means find a publisher and get paid!
Nonsense. If these teams were Fangraphs darlings the tone of this piece would be completely different. The Royals in the WS twice in a row isn’t a fluke. The lessons to be drawn aren’t from the outcome of the WS but rather in the fact that they are there at all.
Agree.
The other big question that should be analyzed is why has Fangraphs been so wrong about the Royals for the last two seasons?
There’s an overreliance on the vaunted projections, but when the projections end up being wildly inaccurate, it’s BS to just chalk it all up to randomness.
Plenty of people have wondered why all of the projection systems have been missing on the Royals. The question’s been raised plenty of times, and it’ll probably be raised again in the off-season, many more times.
The more interesting question, here, is why you think that one team’s results over the relatively short period of 2 years is somehow proof that the math is “wildly inaccurate”. That’s a small sample of a small sample. When the guesses have been largely good for the past 10 years, cherry-picking two results and drawing dramatic conclusions from them is just hilariously wrong-headed.
No, two consecutive World Series appearances are not a “small sample.” Invoking that means you don’t know what the concept entails.
Was it just one team? Remind me, what did the preseason odds for the Mets look like this year? What about the Giants last year?
FG’s projections are wrong a lot. They’ve been very wrong about KC the last two seasons. Why? It’s not a blip. KC isn’t winning because their HRs or walk rate are a lot higher than expected. They are winning despite being a very different type of team than what FG told us you needed to be.
If you (or anyone) actually want to be taken seriously with this kind of argument, the basic pre-qualification is that you should go ahead and point to a more accurate set of preseason projections and then explain why you believe them to be better empirically justified. Until then, all the talk of this model being “wrong” is just hot air, as if all the models, including your ad-hoc in-your-own-head one, weren’t at least as “wrong” by the same criteria.
Um, no. That’s not how it works. There’s no requirement to have a “better” model to critique an existing one.
If your “critique” is the complain that a model is “wildly inaccurate,” and the model you’re talking about has repeatedly been demonstrated empirically to be among the most accurate ones yet available, then yes, it’s on you to point to a better one if you want to be taken seriously. There is no model of baseball that is not “wildly inaccurate” in hindsight in this sense, and there never has been; even the models that fit the data best are “wrong” a lot of the time. But hey, don’t let me stop the two of you from congratulating each other on your willful ineducability.
There’s an overreliance on the vaunted projections
Exactly how much reliance should there be on the projections? What should the rest of the reliance be placed on? Be specific and show the work that got you to that conclusion.
Or go on handwaving.
If it makes you feel any better, the appropriate term would be variance, instead of randomness.
It seems that people without much statistical understanding really reject that term, randomness. Perhaps we should be better at channeling Joe Sheehan’s preferred phrase, “variance trumps all”.
Certainly GMDM was the butt of a lot of humor here for a while (and at royalsreview too in fairness), but to the extent fangraph writers generally have darlings, why wouldn’t the Royals fit? Great fielding, good baserunning, lights out pen assembled on the cheap? That seems like it’s right up FG’s alley. Three true outcome was saber 1.0.
Would you write the same type of article if this were an A’s vs. Cubs WS?
No need to respond. I already know the answer.
Somebody’s making a little funny with the ol’ username!
So, Blue if you get enough negatives do you get some kind of price?
Dave basically said get ready to be entertained by two very good baseball teams. I myself can’t wait!
So you admit that you’re just trolling then.
Well, the first step on the road to recovery is admitting you have the problem.
I hope we get seven games. Winter time always feels empty without baseball.
Indeed. But it does give me time to read more about the great game. Was it Rogers Hornsby who said,”I sit by the window and stare until it turns to spring.”?
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
This strikes me as a good companion piece to Owen Watson’s column today about rest prior to the World Series. If a team is coming off a long layoff and wins the Series, it was well-rested; if it loses, it was rusty. Science!
There’s always the temptation to apply ex-post facto analysis to a playoff series in any sport, whether it involves how much rest a team received or what kind of approach/style they employ (i.e., three true outcomes vs. putting balls in play). But given that baseball is a relatively high-variance sport that concludes a 162-game season with a handful of contests between relatively competitive teams, I don’t know that we’ll ever be able to satisfactorily discern a formula for postseason success. That doesn’t make the sport meaningless; the unpredictability is what makes baseball fun. Looking forward to the Series.
This WS will, once and for all, answer the question of whether it is better to rested or not. Don’t believe me, just listen to the broadcast tonight!!
The thing I’m most excited about for this World Series is the off-chance that when the final pitch is thrown, #notgraphs will rise from the dead like a zombie and just ravage Carson.
…and just ravage Carson.
Dayn Perry is the only one that ravages that catamite- often and vigorously.
This should be comment #689 of the NotGraphs: A Valedictory Statement article!
This is really wonderful, thank you for writing it. While the rest of the sports media are fulminating with pseudo-explanations and hysterically overreading small sample sizes, this is a pleasantly put reminder to have fun rather than treat tiny random samples of data as disproportionately meaningful just because they happen when we’re paying the most attention. Thank you for a good example, hard to find in sports, of the genuinely rational cast of mind.
I for one am so thankful I have lemmings like Dave Cameron around to carry my water. If I were in the World Series the past 2 years like my peer Dayton Moore, Cameron would have ZERO trouble finding “trends” and “conclusions” to draw. But when it’s Dayton Moore and the Royals it’s all meaningless.
So glad Dave carries my water and covers for my postseason failures.
Dave’s nut hangers will criticize this post but it is absolutely true. If this were an A’s/Cubs WS, Dave would get on his soapbox and beat his chest.
The guy is a clown.
I’ll say this for the phrase “nut hangers,” it is a very efficient way of telegraphing how seriously anyone should be taking your opinion.
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Furiously masturbates to Dave Cameron tweets
Haha.
Scott just pointed to his own name.
You really are as tedious as hell.
Not just DM; remember for years that Brian Sabean was also cast as the village idiot by Cameron.
This post got some down votes, but Billy here is right. Just because you can’t deduce Dayton Moore’s process with some stats that Tom Tango publishes, doesn’t mean you can make some sweeping claims about his “old school” mentality. In fact, it may very well mean that he is even MORE moneyball than anyone else, seeing as people still haven’t figured out how he is doing it.
It’s like, how much more moneyball could this be? and the answer is none. None more moneyball.
Seattle & KC both entered the AL as expansion teams in 1969. Pennants won:
KC 4
Seattle 0
LOL at Dave Cameron’s favorite team never going to the WS while KC goes 4x.
The Seattle Pilots then became the Milwaukee Brewers in 1970, with the Mariners not returning until 1977. Your lack of knowledge of baseball history is rivaled only by your ignorance of Dave’s oft-stated lost love for the Mariners.
A Seattle team that he doesn’t love anymore because of the most humiliating article of his blogging career that still haunts him to this day.
He embarrassed himself so bad by being optimistic about his favorite team that he can’t even continue being a fan of his favorite team. Can we not poke fun at him for that?
Fine. They have only played 40 seasons in the AL instead of 46 like the Royals. Still the score is now 4-0. LOL at Dave Cameron for following that wretched franchise.
Dayton Moore is terrible too. From what I read here.
You make me sad because I have no doubt you lead a sad life.
I have no doubt that you were the kid who got picked on in school and then went home and beat up your little sister.
Great article Dave! I really wish it went on longer.
Thanks in particular, Dave, for not stating that this series is intended to be a battle between the two “best” teams.
It’s a spectacle for entertainment purposes. I just hope it provides a lot of high-quality baseball. No one in his right mind should draw any definitive conclusions from the outcome of a four-week, 10-team tournament, no matter which team emerges victorious.
“The World Series doesn’t have to mean anything to be enjoyable.”
I think this quote was blunt to the point of being wrong. I think the point was about not meaning anything in regards to greater truths. But that is very different than not meaning anything, full stop.
If it didn’t mean anything, literally anything, it would not be enjoyable. But championships are the culmination of a lifetime’s effort for an athlete and a lifetime of devotion for fans. And fandom is meaningful because it’s the source of community and joy and sorrow. Sure, it doesn’t mean anything about the nature of the universe or even necessarily the nature of the sport of baseball. But it most certainly has meaning, if only an arbitrary one.
I think that’s what you were saying, Dave. But I think it’s worth the clarification.
I think this article touches on a tension between the way Americans follow sports and the way baseball is currently constructed.
In the American sports system, the only thing we care about is who wins the championship. The regular season only has value for most people in that it can provide entrance to the tournament for the champion. If you don’t believe me, try telling a Royals/Mets fan how the Cardinals had a better season this year, and see how far you get.
The issue is that baseball, more than any other sport, determines its champion primarily via randomness. This wasn’t always the case (when only two teams made the postseason, for instance), but it is now and is only becoming more so as the playoffs continue to expand.
This is obviously going to result in a lot of spurious conclusions: casual fans only want to conclude things based on who the winner of the World Series is – the exact thing that one *shouldn’t* use to draw conclusions about 2015 baseball. Given that the extreme focus on championships and championships alone isn’t going away, the faulty reasoning performed based on the results of each MLB postseason won’t be going away either.
Yeah, you can really see this in action — the cognitive overweighting of postseason games — with the back-formed “two postseasons in a row CAN’T be a small sample” lines of reasoning.
FanGraphs in bullshit. Dave doesn’t pander to my favorite team. He keeps using foreign things that he calls “facts” and “stats” and ignores all the media narratives. He probably believes in “science”.