Baltimore’s Outfield Options Don’t Make Much Sense

Next week, we’re bringing back our annual Positional Power Rankings season preview, where we go through every team’s depth charts, position by position, to identify strengths and weaknesses. In preparation for the PPRs, we spend a lot of time checking over every team’s depth chart here on the site to try and make the playing time distributions as accurate as possible, and make sure we’re incorporating the most recent available information. In most cases, distributing at-bats is pretty easy, and there is a logical combination of players to fill starter/reserve or platoon roles for each team.

But then there’s the Orioles outfield. If you know how to make this group fit together, I’d love to hear it.

In center field, of course, is Adam Jones, who publicly suggested that he’d like to be flanked by some better defenders this year. I don’t think he’s going to get his wish.

The Orioles look like they’re going to run some platoons between left field, right field, and designated hitter. Hyun Soo Kim (LHB) returns after a solid offensive rookie season, but the team didn’t trust him at all against LHPs last year, and his defensive issues in left field make it likely that he’ll be ticketed for a job share with Joey Rickard (RHB) again this year. Seth Smith (LHB) was acquired over the winter, presumably to play right field against right-handed pitching, the role he played in Seattle last year.

He needs a platoon partner too, and maybe a defensive replacement, so if we attach Rickard to Kim, then the last bench spot would likely go to a right-handed OF who can run a bit, which would seemingly give veteran NRI Craig Gentry a leg up on the job, though Rule 5 pick Anthony Santander is hanging around too, with the more classic Orioles OF skill-set of decent power with questionable defense. Mark Trumbo is also around as the primary DH, but could play an OF corner against LHPs if the team wanted to get another bat into the line-up.

That basic plan doesn’t seem so weird. Two left/right platoons in the corner spots, with stronger hitters from the left side and better defenders from the right side. Okay, makes sense.

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Except then last weekend, this happened.

According to Buck Showalter, the Orioles had been planting seeds about this move since last September, and Alvarez has been working out in preparation for a potential move to the outfield this winter. While Alvarez signed a minor league contract, it seems likely that he was given some indication that he was likely to get added to the big league roster if he showed he can play the outfield to any reasonable degree. And given that the Orioles consider Mark Trumbo good enough to be a part-time outfielder, the bar in Baltimore is clearly pretty low.

But it’s not particularly clear how Alvarez can really coexist with what the Orioles currently have. He’s a duplication of Smith and Kim, as they are all bat-first lefties who need to be platooned, and with Trumbo already relegated to DH against RHPs because of the presence of Chris Davis at first base, there isn’t another spot in the line-up for a left-handed OF/DH.

And there isn’t even really a bench spot for him, despite the notion that he is competing for a reserve role. Right now, the team projects to carry a four-man bench, with Rickard and Gentry/Santander joined by utility infielder Ryan Flaherty and backup catcher Caleb Joseph. If the team wanted to try and shoehorn Alvarez onto the roster even without finding regular at-bats for him — it’s safe to assume he has some kind of opt-out in his minor league deal if not added to the big league roster at some point, so for instance, if they just wanted to promote him to keep him from leaving the organizaiton — then he’d have to displace one of the two outfielders, since Flaherty and Joseph aren’t expendable.

But if you carry Alvarez instead of one of the Rickard/Gentry/Santander, then the planned platoons don’t work anymore, and you’d be forcing a poor defensive LHB into the line-up against left-handed pitching while simply carrying an extra left-handed pinch hitter for a line-up that doesn’t really have anyone to pinch-hit for. Let’s just sketch it out, for visual representation.

Orioles Projected Position Players
Position Vs RHP Vs LHP
C Castillo Castillo
1B Davis Davis
2B Schoop Schoop
3B Machado Machado
SS Hardy Hardy
LF Kim Rickard
CF Jones Jones
RF Smith Gentry
DH Trumbo Trumbo
Bench Vs RHP Vs LHP
C Joseph Joseph
IF Flaherty Flaherty
OF Rickard Kim
OF Gentry Smith

You can replace Gentry with Santander or Trey Mancini if you think they’re going to win the fifth OF job, but the point remains the same; giving that guy’s roster spot to Alvarez only serves to create a logjam of LH corner OFs against RHPs, and opens a hole against LHPs in the OF. Sure, you could stick Trumbo out there instead, having him effectively serve as Smith’s platoon partner, but then who is the DH against LHPs? The only right-handed hitters on the bench would be the backup catcher and the utility infielder, so getting their bat in the line-up isn’t worth pushing Trumbo to the outfield.

As far as I can figure, the Alvarez signing signals one of two options.

1. The team is looking to trade Hyun Soo Kim, who they didn’t really trust last year until he forced his way into the line-up, and would give his spot to Alvarez, shifting Smith to left field in the process.

2. They signed Alvarez as a favor to give him a chance to play outfield in front of scouts, figuring some other team will be impressed enough to trade for him before Opening Day.

The latter plan doesn’t really make much sense though, as if Alvarez just wanted somewhere to audition for an OF job, he could have at least signed with a team that doesn’t have copies of his skillset ahead of him on the depth chart. It feels like a Kim trade might be the most logical outcome here, except for the fact that the market for bat-first corner outfielders disintegrated this winter, and it’s not clear that there would be that many teams looking to trade for Kim at this point.

So, yeah, I don’t know what the Orioles are doing in the outfield. They’ve responded to Jones’ request for better athletes by stocking up on poor defensive options, and if Alvarez is actually in the plans, it seems like they have too many left-handed outfielders and not enough right-handed ones. And the right-handed ones they do have aren’t any good.

If they can flip Kim for a right-handed OF who can actually cover some ground and not embarrass himself at the plate, then maybe this all works out. Maybe Alvarez takes to the OF conversion well and allows the team to keep Trumbo at DH full-time. They have a few weeks to sort this out, and the Orioles have been good at finding value from guys who didn’t look like much when acquired.

But with a lousy pitching staff full of guys who put the ball in play a lot, this really seems like a weird plan. And without some other move coming, the current pieces just don’t really fit together.





Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.

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Rallyk
9 years ago

I agree; the plan is weird. I thought I read on twitter something that implied Alvarez was expecting a significant amount of time in AAA – learning the outfield and getting more game experience there. I’m not sure something will be worked out for a while.

(Also, I think this article serves as Fangraphs’ annual reverse-jinx article for the O’s. Look out postseason!)

Ron Flattery
9 years ago
Reply to  Rallyk

Yea he signed a minor league deal with an opt out. It is unlikely that he even sees time in the majors for the Os this year.

alpha309
9 years ago

I know this is a dumb idea, but could the O’s be possibly looking at Alverez as someone with a little more positional flexibility other than just OF. Given his past at 1B and 3B, even though he wasn’t what anyone would ever call a good fielder at either position, it does help him have a little more positional flexibility. If this is their thinking he could be used in whichever OF spot they want to use him, and then allow them to give Machado, Hardy (by sliding Machado over), Davis or Trumbo a day off as well.

Again, defensively a terrible idea, but maybe this is a portion of their thinking.

Joshua Miller
9 years ago
Reply to  alpha309

They tried Alvarez at 3rd when Hardy was out, it didn’t go well, bad enough that they played Flaherty pretty much exclusively at 3rd despite Flaherty being awful with the stick last year (Worse than usual). Ideally neither Machado or Davis will miss any time anyways.

alpha309
9 years ago
Reply to  Joshua Miller

I realize it is a bad idea, just trying to figure out what is going on in the front office where this makes some sort of sense

AnonMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  alpha309

IIRC, Alvarez’ defensive issues at 3B were throwing errors, to the point that he had developed the yips. From 2012-2014 with the Pirates he had 16, 12 and then 24 throwing errors, which was the most in the majors 2 of the years and 2nd the other year (behind Ryan Zimmerman who also had to be moved off of 3B for throwing problems, in part). He managed 2 in only 53 innings there last year which is essentially on pace for, what, 45 in a full year? It’s a shame too because his range numbers at 3B , while not good, really aren’t horrible. He’d be a decent 3B if he could only manage the throw across the diamond regularly.

LHPSU
9 years ago

The Orioles’ plans make plenty of sense – get useful players at reasonable price, worry about the shape of the plug and hole later.

It’s weirder that Alvarez would take the minor league deal to sign with the Orioles – if I were running the Athletics, Rangers or White Sox, I would have offered him a major league deal (maybe for less money) to start at DH, and maybe give him practice reps at OF too.

JoseF16
9 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

100% this. He’s on a minor league deal. If you get a chance to have a player of his caliber on a minor league deal, you do it, and just see what comes. There’s zero risk, and if a door opens for him to play, there’s a lot of room for reward. It makes perfect sense.

Pirates HurdlesMember since 2020
9 years ago

How in the world is Pedro going to be an OF?! He A) can’t throw accurately enough for even 1B and B) is the size of his nickname El Toro.

LHPSU
9 years ago

It should be pretty well-known among Pirates fans that Pedro is a better athlete than he looks, with just about average baserunning scores for his career (positive in the last two years in fact). And the outfield is a common destination for players who have the yips like Rick Ankiel and Chuck Knoblauch, because it gives you more time and margin for error; Ryan Zimmerman also did some time in LF and did pretty well.

Basically, Pedro probably won’t be any worse than Mark Trumbo. Yes, I know Trumbo is terrible in OF, but he’s a year older than Pedro, even slower than Pedro, and still allowed to play 96 games in the outfield last year.

SolitaireMember since 2020
9 years ago

The only way this makes sense to me is if Alvarez is gonna spend a couple months in AAA. That way he’s insurance on an injury, trade bait, and allows them to release Kim (they wanted to last year) if he starts badly enough.

Joshua Miller
9 years ago
Reply to  Solitaire

They wanted to release Kim last year because they didnt think he could hit and he wasnt going to accept an assignment to AAA. Now that they know he can hit, they arent going to release him. If it were up to me, I’d give Kim the chance to play left every day and give him a chance to hit lefties, which would simply things a bit for the O’s as far as their outfield.

Sooted72
9 years ago
Reply to  Joshua Miller

totally agree with giving kim a chance to play. the way balt has treated him is just perplexing. hes dirt cheap and seems to be at least a somewhat useful player. i mean at the very least hit him leadoff vs rhp…

if you squint you can kinda see something resembling a 2-3 war player over a full season. kinda. has to be worth a shot given their super meh alternatives.

bohknowsbmore
9 years ago
Reply to  Sooted72

He and Rickard as a platoon makes way too much sense. Kim showed he can be a useful player against RHP and Rickard OPS’d .861 against LHP last season.

JUICEMANE
9 years ago

All Baltimore cares about is hitting jacks…defense smeefense

bohknowsbmore
9 years ago
Reply to  JUICEMANE

Well, they had a historically good defense w/r/t errors just a few years ago.

Mike NMN
9 years ago

Brett Gardner?

bartelsjason
9 years ago

The odds that both Smith and Kim stay healthy AND productive are not that high, so its nice to have 3 guys to fill 2 spots. If all of them are playing well, you have trade options, if 2 them are playing well…you play those 2, and the 3rd gets sent to AAA or packing.

OTMHeartBBCMember since 2019
9 years ago

Seattle went with 3 CF
Balty is rolling with 2 DHs and 1 CF

bold move

RainmakerMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  OTMHeartBBC

I pay to see SEA and BAL play for a month straight just to see how these plans stack up…

Jetsy Extrano
9 years ago
Reply to  Rainmaker

The Dee Gordons will crush.

DBA455
9 years ago
Reply to  OTMHeartBBC

Arguably DHs and a RF who plays in CF

JediHoyer
9 years ago

Shouldn’t adam Jones be moved to a corner at this point and go after a true cf?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago

Oh, it gets better. They’re planning to start Rickard in the minors this year, after posting almost a win-below-replacement in under 300 PAs. This year’s Rule 5 pick is Santander, who is trying to make the jump to the majors from A+. Meanwhile, Gentry’s *career* line against lefties is a wRC+ of 97, and he’s been unplayable the last two years. And Mancini’s a rookie 1B/DH guy being converted to the outfield, which could go wrong any number of ways. And that’s before we talk about the Kim/Trumbo/Smith/Alvarez/Santander/Rickard/Mancini outfield defense. If the Orioles are trying to take advantage of their core before they all hit free agency, this is a funny way of doing it.

Baron Samedi
9 years ago

Trash birds gonna trash.

Baron Samedi
9 years ago
Reply to  Baron Samedi

#trigger warning

scooter262
9 years ago

I think the standard response in this case is, “Don’t worry! Buck will work his magic and all will work out.”

I say this only partly in jest: I DO tend to give Showalter the benefit of the doubt due past performance of his teams.

radivel
9 years ago
Reply to  scooter262

Yeah, it’s not like this situation calls for a closer.

Seuss2004Member since 2018
9 years ago

My favorite option is they trade Adam Jones and put Alvarez in center. Then every time a ball is hit in the outfield they can play the Benny Hill theme!

Dooduh
9 years ago

I don’t think this is the way it shakes out in Balt. I think their desire to keep/stash Santander will work its way into this scheme. And they are certainly not married to Gentry or Rickard taking 2 roster spots.

I think they’ll end up with the devil they know (Trumbo) mostly in RF. And Smith and Santander will share DH.

As far as Alvarez, his signing never made sense after the O’s picked up Smith. I thought he was destined for a trip home to the Bronx actually. It’s odd when the Yankees don’t add some LHed power hitting DH. That’s an annual winter ritual for them.

And that leaves Trey Mancini. He’s getting shafted in this. He certainly doesn;t need another stint in the minors. Frankly, with Tillman looking to be damaged now, they should prob use Mancini to get another SPer, cause unless they move him to the OF, there isn’t much room for him going forward anyway.

jfree
9 years ago

Well if he sucks at defense at OF – and 3B – and 1B – maybe they can play Alvarez at C and 2B and SS as well (where he can be assured of sucking on defense). Get a really versatile bench bat who can suck on defense everywhere but it hopefully won’t matter cuz ‘HR’s’ and ‘bullpen’

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  jfree

I would love to see a team try this, not because I think it would work but because it would be interesting. It would be the “Adam Dunn Roster Building Philosophy.” Just get the most awesome hitters and don’t worry about defense at all. We’ve seen the Padres do that with their three-lousy-corner-outfielder alignment, but maybe the problem was that their bad-defense outfielders were also bad-offense outfielders. But if you stuck Nelson Cruz back in right field, see how Jose Abreu does at 3rd, put Carlos Santana back at catcher, see how JD Martinez does in center, put Matt Carpenter at shortstop…

andrey
9 years ago

Honest question for any Baltimore fans. Was Chris Davis really bad in RF? He played there a few times a couple years ago. Baltimore seems to have had trouble finding a right fielder for a few years. Davis signed the big contract and I presumed they just wanted to keep him where he was comfortable. But now that Trumbo is signed to multiple years, would Davis in RF and Trumbo at 1B be a consideration?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  andrey

I was just thinking this. Trumbo’s a good defender at 1st, and he’s awful in right, so it might be worth a shot.

Joshua Miller
9 years ago
Reply to  andrey

Davis is actually passable in right, almost certainly better than Trumbo, the Os don’t want to risk him getting hurt by playing him out their regularly though.

Max Power
9 years ago
Reply to  andrey

Davis is fine in RF but a very good defensive 1B

radivel
9 years ago
Reply to  andrey

According to Scott Boras, Chris Davis is basically Jayson Heyward in RF and also John Olerud at 1B. Basically, you can’t lose with him.

JoseF16
9 years ago

The Orioles’ offseason confused me a bit. But I’m confused why any Orioles fan wouldn’t be happy to have pedro on a minor league deal. Great signing, even if a spot never opens for him.

bohknowsbmore
9 years ago
Reply to  JoseF16

Yep, minor league deal is one of the most important components of the signing.

Average Fastball VelociraptorMember since 2016
9 years ago

Ryan Flaherty is a left-handed hitter