Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat – 2/21/23
12:04 |
: Hey everyone, welcome to the chat. I got this set up late, so I’m going to wait a few minutes for some questions to pile up while I get some coffee.
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12:08 |
: Alright, let’s get started
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12:08 |
: Where is profar going to end up?
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12:10 |
: I’m really confused by the lack of market for him. I thought Texas was a logical landing place, but it seems like they were aiming a little lower for their left field solution
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12:11 |
: I guess the best spot at this point is Atlanta? But it’s weird. I don’t think that they are looking to add a left fielder before the season starts
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12:11 |
: I guess my best bet is that he’ll wait until the season starts and go somewhere that needs a left fielder
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12:12 |
: At this point, that means waiting for injury or ineffectiveness
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12:12 |
: good afternoon, was wondering the reasoning behind nick Gonzales’s 35 FV hit tool. At the time of the draft he was around a 60 FV, and now he is 35? I understand he strikes out a lot, however he did have a 127 WRC+ at AA. 35 seems light to me given his numbers at AA. Thanks!
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12:13 |
: So, that’s a question for Eric and not me, but I’ll make some general observations from the outside: he’s running a 30% strikeout rate
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12:14 |
: His hit tool grades have been going down with each passing year
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12:15 |
: He can still do a lot of damage when he connects, but I’m not getting ‘oh this guy will definitely bat .280’ vibes, to say the least
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12:16 |
: Does Grayson Rodriguez get enough innings this year to be impactful? Seems like the Orioles treat their SP prospects with extreme caution.
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12:16 |
: I think he will
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12:16 |
: They treat their prospects with caution but in 100 IP, I think he’d be plenty impactful
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12:16 |
: what kind of baseball questions do you specialize at if not prospects? Jay has the HOF questions right?
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12:16 |
: I mean… I don’t have much of a specialty
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12:17 |
: but there is more to baseball than prospects and the hall of fame
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12:17 |
: who is the biggest bust that you thought would be a star?
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12:18 |
: Brendan Rodgers. The book isn’t closed on him yet by any means, but I truly did not think he’d be posting league average batting lines before adjusting for Coors
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12:18 |
: I thought he was gonna be the next Tulo
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12:18 |
: Where do you think Gary Sanchez might end up? Surprised he’s not signed yet?
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12:18 |
: If Gary Sanchez has a monster WBC, how big of a deal could he end up getting? He has to be tempting for a lot of teams
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12:19 |
: I’m not surprised he hasn’t found a place yet, to be honest. I don’t think teams want to play him at catcher, which limits his market pretty significantly
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12:19 |
: If he’s not a catcher, he’s a marginal righty DH bat. If he can catch, he’s a good deal
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12:20 |
: If I were a team that had an opening at catcher, I’d give him a shot, just to be clear
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12:20 |
: He looked acceptable to me (in limited looks) in Minnesota last year
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12:20 |
: Teams have much better evaluators than we do for this kind of thing, but given the state of catcher, I’d give him a shot
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12:20 |
: How does fangraphs treats obvious change to a park? For example, when TEX got a whole new park, when BAL’s fence got moved significantly, and when DET’s fence moves this season. Do they keep the previous 3 years park factor and wait until the new park plays out? Do they use league average until it plays out?
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12:21 |
: I’m gonna try to get clarification on this, but as I recall from the Texas change, we use league average for the previous years to create a regression, rather than the old park values
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12:21 |
: true.. I’m assuming Dan has the numbers and Paul is fantasy….not trying to be offensive and apologies in advance if it comes across that way.
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12:21 |
: Haha not at all
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12:21 |
: I am specialty-less
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12:21 |
: Where’s my buddy
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12:21 |
: I like that bust question, let’s reverse it: who’s the biggest star that you thought would be a bust?
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12:22 |
: Ooooooooh
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12:22 |
: I’m gonna admit my bad take here and say Andres Gimenez
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12:22 |
: I just did not see it when he was on the Mets, so I didn’t get the hype
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12:22 |
: I was down on his production even last year as he was doing great
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12:23 |
: But I’ve gone back and looked at him a lot more and basically decided I was wrong to look at him and think he didn’t have power
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12:23 |
: He’s a little guy, but the numbers don’t lie
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12:23 |
: I was definitely too bought in on the visual evaluation and not enough on how well he was playing
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12:23 |
: My impression is that Ben’s specialties are the cooking and board games components of baseball
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12:23 |
: Fair
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12:23 |
: I recently got into making fried rice and can’t believe i didn’t do this earlier. So easy and a great way to use up leftover veggies and meat from previous meals.
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12:24 |
: Seconded
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12:24 |
: Fried rice, or for me just sheet pan rice and veggies cooked in the oven, is one of my favorite lunches
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12:24 |
: Easy and delicious
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12:24 |
: do you believe berrios rebounds back to his Twins days?
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12:24 |
: I do
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12:24 |
: Warning: Berrios is someone I considered as an answer for my ‘who’s a bust who you thought would be a star’
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12:25 |
: I’ve been enjoying reading the articles about using certain statistics of season n to predict season n+1. With spring training arriving, I’m wondering if you have thoughts about specific stats in ST that might best predict the success for the upcoming year. Sample size and veteran players “trying something new” are a nightmare for predictions probably, but maybe something I can look for in younger guys about to break out?
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12:26 |
: I don’t, really. Same stats as anywhere else, I guess, except I’d care a lot more about exit velocities for hitters because those seem to vary less with level of competition
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12:26 |
: This is a great time to bring up one of my favorite old articles, too: Ben Lindbergh on people who come to spring training in the best shape of their life
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12:26 |
: What are your thoughts on the Angels getting Matt Moore? I feel like I’m getting dangerously more and more excited about Anaheim. Not good for my heart!
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12:26 |
: I love it for them
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12:26 |
: I think he’s their best reliever
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12:27 |
: Re: Surprise stars – I don’t think anyone saw Jose Ramirez being a HOFer when he came up
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12:27 |
: For sure
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12:27 |
: He’s a great example, but I just didn’t follow him when he came up, so by the time I was aware of him I just thought he was a star
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12:27 |
Is that even the right way to be thinking about it? |
12:27 |
: I think that’s a slight oversimplification, but it’s a good place to start
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12:28 |
: Like, there are more dimensions to it than that, guys who walk a lot or line drive hitters or speed types can get away with lower barrel rates
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12:28 |
: but say, 25%/10% or something?
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12:29 |
: I have first overall pick for upcoming draft in a dynasty league, weighted toward OBP versus just AVG. I’m going to take Druw Jones or Jackson Holliday – am I overthinking it to pass on Jones bc maybe Holliday seems a bit safer since he got some at-bats in and hit well last year, while Jones had shoulder surgery? Just trying to gauge how much extra risk I’m taking on with Jones, or if his ceiling far outweighs extra risk…
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12:29 |
: I do not think you’re overthinking it at all. Our prospect list isn’t out yet (tomorrow! tomorrow!), and I haven’t seen it, but I bet Holliday will be ahead of Jones
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12:29 |
: Obviously that’s real life and not fantasy, but yeah, I think I’d still prefer Holliday
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12:30 |
: If they fail to resign any of them, do the Cards have 3 QO candidates from the rotation after this season?
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12:30 |
: Mmmm… I mean, it’s plausible but not likely
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12:31 |
: They are all QO candidates given a solid season, but the odds of all three of Mikolas/Flaherty/Montgomery putting those seasons up and then also not signing extensions aren’t high
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12:32 |
: I think the most likely extension candidate is Montgomery, but maybe that’s unfair to Mikolas, he seems to like StL and I think the team could use his steady innings
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12:32 |
: Which pair of starters would you most want leading your rotation in 2023: Cole/Rodon, Scherzer/Verlander, Nola/Wheeler, Fried/Strider, McClanahan/Glasnow, or Burnes/Woodruff?
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12:32 |
: I think I’d take Cole/Rodon out of that group, though they’re all great
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12:33 |
: I’m gonna be honest… I’d take deGrom/Heaney over any of them though. I’m just a hopeless deGrom optimist
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12:33 |
: I see a lot of people expecting some regression from Michael Harris II. Everyone points to his groundball rate, low walk rate and oswing v zswing. However, considering he is 21 and his history of decent walk rates, high babips and k rates in the minors is there not also room for him to grow? Also, is it not reasonable to expect him to get a little better vs LHP considering you simply don’t see good lefties in AA much? His first real exposure was last Summer, on the fly, to major league lefties.
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12:34 |
: I think he’s just a high-volatility guy. I can see a lot of places to worry, and a lot of places to be optimistic.
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12:34 |
: Like, he doesn’t have much minor league history because he just hasn’t played that much professional baseball
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12:34 |
: But that’s not a bad thing by any means
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12:34 |
: Just a volatile thing
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12:35 |
: I don’t like his approach at all, he’s somehow swinging way more at pitches out of the strike zone than league average but less at pitches in the zone than average
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12:36 |
: So I think there’s risk that pitchers just give him a pure junk diet and he struggles to adjust
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12:36 |
: But I’d rather have someone need to adjust that way than need to develop better tools
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12:37 |
: Since we now know power is pretty hard to come by if you don’t already have it, how about the other side of the equation: contact? And please give me hope Oneil Cruz will somehow prove a point (in a good way).
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12:37 |
: Contact is easier to develop than power (according to what major leaguers have done) but still not easy
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12:37 |
: I’m very optimistic on Cruz, though, because I don’t think he needs to become a great contact hitter to be awesome
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12:38 |
: if he strikes out 30% of the time and plays an acceptable shortstop, he’s gonna be an all star
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12:38 |
: Do you think Didi will latch on with a team if he has a good WBC?
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12:38 |
: Honestly, no
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12:38 |
: If he wants to be a utility infielder, maybe?
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12:39 |
: I just don’t think he’s a starting shortstop anymore
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12:39 |
: I appreciated your article on the Cole Irvin trade and your follow up about teams valuing players differently. Do you feel that the A’s other selloff trades also fall into the category of “unfair on paper, but logical when you consider each team’s needs and goals”?
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12:39 |
: Thanks. And, basically no? I think that in large part they’re doing the opposite of what I’d do. There aren’t a lot of Darell Hernaiz’s in their returns
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12:40 |
: They seem to be going for proximity to the majors, which makes very little sense to me given how comprehensively they’re annihilating their own major league team
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12:40 |
: The A’s are smart, smarter than me. They’re not just out there pressing random buttons. But from the outside looking in, I just don’t get it
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12:40 |
: The Rays’ offseason has been frustratingly bereft of signs that they will have an improved offense. Is there any hope beyond “Wander Franco gets better?”
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12:42 |
: I’ll give you a few silver linings: more PA’s from Isaac Paredes, who was an above average hitter with a .195 BABIP last year. More from Manuel Margot as a platoon bat. Jose Siri improving just a little bit would go a long way. Brandon Lowe returning
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12:42 |
: But yeah, I would have liked to see them do SOMETHING else
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12:42 |
: Hi Ben. I noticed you’re a kenji alt Lopez fan. Please tell me you have a sous-vide?
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12:42 |
: I don’t, and I should probably get one
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12:43 |
: I don’t do a lot of big cooking projects, which is what has held me back so far
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12:43 |
: Like, I’m really enjoying wok cooking, and one thing I like is that you just kinda prep your stuff and then chuck it in the pan
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12:43 |
: Will Brett Baty make the team? Seems pretty likely he can outproduce Escobar if he can play an average 3b
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12:43 |
: I think that if he has a great spring training, he will make the team, but I am higher on Escobar than it sounds like you are
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12:44 |
: I pretty much agree with his projections; average player, both offensively and overall
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12:45 |
: Everyone loves Baty, granted, but it’s no lock that he’d outperform Escobar right away
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12:45 |
: I think it might be a ‘show you can do it’ kinda thing, but if Baty is mashing in ST/AAA and Escobar is struggling, or even if Escobar is doing just fine but Baty is really on fire, they’ll make the change
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12:45 |
: Escobar in a super utility role is an attractive fallback option, which is one reason I liked that signing
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12:45 |
: What are the chances I take another leap and put up a 5+ WAR season?
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12:46 |
: I’m gonna say pretty low, though I think you are underrated on the whole
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12:46 |
: This is one of those ‘contact leaps aren’t likely’ situations
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12:47 |
: Rosario has legit top-end power and plays acceptable shortstop defense as best as I can tell
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12:47 |
: but he doesn’t get to the power often enough b/c he swings at a bunch of nonsense
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12:48 |
: I was a big Rosario head when he was a prospect, so maybe I’m just falling into the same narrative trap that I’ve fallen into his entire career, but I think it could happen!
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12:48 |
: Is a Cristian Pache DFA on the horizon this Spring now that he’s out of options? Or will the A’s give him one last shot in the bigs for a couple months?
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12:48 |
: I think they have to give him one last shot
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12:49 |
: Not even from a sunk cost perspective, just from a ‘how the heck are we building a whole roster otherwise’ perspective
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12:49 |
: Particularly when you factor in a likely Laureano trade
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12:50 |
: Are the Yankees trying g
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12:50 |
: Are the Yankees trying to avoid letting Peraza establish himself at SS? They must view him as trade bait. Moving Volpe to 2b for a glove first SS doesn’t fit their “let’s pass on every allstar SS” narrative…
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12:50 |
: I like hte first question more, haha
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12:50 |
: I’m gonna let spring training play out more before coming to a conclusion here
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12:50 |
: Am I seriously the frontrunner to be the A’s Opening Day starter?
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12:51 |
: I don’t actually think it’s that weird. When I was doing my free agent rankings for this year, I asked dan for a Senga projection, and he said ‘You want a Fujinami projection too’
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12:51 |
: I didn’t even know who he was. But that was a mistake on my part, he’s quite good and their projections were basically the same
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12:51 |
: Then you look at the rest of the A’s rotation and, well, why not Fujinami?
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12:52 |
deserve this ben.
: Do yourself a favor and TAKE THE PLUNGE. sous vide will change your life for the better. You |
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: If I get a bigger kitchen with space for more gadgets I’m sure I’ll get one. Otherwise, eh, we’ll see
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12:52 |
: Am I silly to dream on Danny Jansen, given the rate stats/injury issues he’s had the last two years? Or is there a legit chance that he puts together a 5 win season if he can stay healthy?
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12:53 |
: I think it’s unlikely, but largely because the Jays will be smart about giving him a lot of rest to deal with those aforementioned injury issues
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12:54 |
: Heck, ZiPS projects him for 5 WAR/600
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12:54 |
: Not that catchers get 600 PA’s ever, but the rate statistics are there is my point
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12:54 |
: Duran already throwing 102 in camp?! Someone tell that man to save his bullets!
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12:54 |
: He’s saving the 103’s
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12:54 |
: PT and performance expectations for Mark Canha? Underrated veteran?
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12:55 |
: Canha is terminally underrated
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12:55 |
: he signed a bargain free agent deal, went out and put up 3 WAR, and is probably in line to do roughly that again
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12:56 |
: He had the same OBP as Brandon Nimmo last year, the walk god himself
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12:56 |
: I think I’ve already qualified for my major league debut, but there are a lot of good hitters in the Cardinals now. Can I be in the opening roster?
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12:56 |
: I would have said no before the Cardinals started trying Tyler O’Neill out in center field
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12:57 |
: I think there is some chance that they aren’t willing to go into the season with Carlson and O’Neill as 2/3 of the outfield given their down 2022 seasons (both league average with the bat, so not THAT down, but still)
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12:58 |
: I still don’t think that makes a Walker promotion likely, because they really do have a logjam of good hitters, but it definitely opens the door more than a crack
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12:59 |
: how about Castillo/whoever even counts as #2
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12:59 |
: Well, yeah, that second part is doing you no favors
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12:59 |
: How much steals do you think the league leader in stolen bases will have this year?
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12:59 |
: 63
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12:59 |
: but who knows haha
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12:59 |
: Which highly regarded prospect from the last few years do you think is going to have a career year in 2023?
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12:59 |
: hmmm…. Gimenez
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12:59 |
: Does CJ Abrams hit the ball hard enough to live up to prospect expectations?
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1:00 |
: I do not think so
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1:00 |
: I’m gonna be honest, I never got the Abrams hype
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1:00 |
: I understand that he’s fast and toolsy but he’s just never ever ever shown power
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1:01 |
: Like, extremely never ever
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1:02 |
: All of your other skills need to come together really well to make that package work, and I feel like you can usually see those guys coming from a mile away because if you have everything else all working, you are way too good for the minors
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1:02 |
: Do infield grass/dirt dimensions change much between parks? With infielders now being required to start on the dirt will defensive projections change for players and/or park factors?
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1:02 |
: Sadly the league now standardizes dirt dimensions, booooooo
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1:02 |
: Is fangraphs aware that trevor may is AWESOME. I mean decent pitcher but damn that dude funny.
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1:02 |
: Of James Paxton, Sixto Sanchez, and Mike Soroka, who is most likely to have a healthy and productive season this year?
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1:02 |
: This is a stab in the dark, but I’ll say SIxto
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1:03 |
: I want it to be Soroka, I’m a big fan for whatever reason, I just am very worried
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1:03 |
: George Kirby AL Cy Young dark horse candidate?
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1:03 |
: Totally
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1:03 |
: But like…. dark horse
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1:05 |
: I’d want to see him either retool the breaking pitches or emphasize his changeup more
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1:06 |
: I’m not sure what to make of his slider; it looks pretty ordinary to me, and got hit hard last year (a 7.7% swinging strike rate is shockingly low for a breaking pitch) but pithcing models seem to like it
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1:07 |
: MLB headline: Heyward’s new swing the early talk of camp
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1:07 |
: I mean, what else is there to talk about?
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1:07 |
: A sous vide’s greatest advantage is not fancy projects but rapid, delicious, perfectly cooked proteins. Freeze up a bunch of steaks or salmon filets or chicken, toss em in the sous vide a couple hours before dinner, quick sear and prep a side and you’ve got dinner with less than 10 minutes of active work (depending on the side).
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1:07 |
: Again, couple hours before dinner? That counts as a project to me
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1:07 |
: But I do appreciate the lack of active cooking time
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1:08 |
: Endy Rodriguez’ projections are highly encouraging. ZIPs 1.4 WAR over 57 games and Steamer 3.3 WAR over 124 games. The latter would get ROY votes. Do you believe in this $10,000 international signee?
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1:09 |
: I have to say, I’m very confused about him. He’s gonna be a top 100 prospect I’m sure, he’s a 55 overall, and the numbers and scouts seem to agree
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1:09 |
: But my ML likelihood model (which is like a cut-rate KATOH or ZiPS prospects, I’m gonna write up the hitters it likes most for Friday) is really not bought in
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1:10 |
: I am looking at his statistics and don’t exactly understand why, to be honest
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1:10 |
: He seems like the kind of hitter that model should like
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1:10 |
: I’ll just say…. who cares if I believe, but I don’t
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1:10 |
: Did people give up on Ian Anderson too quickly? Added a slider (I’ll believe it when I see it, but in theory a valuable add to his arsenal if he can make it average). At his worst last year with little to no command, his ERA estimators were all in the low 4’s. Or am I being too optimistic and the change up has been figured out?
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1:11 |
: I’m totally with you on ‘believe it when I see it’ on a slider for him
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1:11 |
: It’s kinda a weird pairing given how vertical his fastball is, and how the changeup plays really well off of that fastball
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1:12 |
: I think he’s a fringe-average starter, but I am not optimistic about anything more than that
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1:12 |
: David Wright, hall of fame?
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1:12 |
: For me, yes
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1:12 |
: I’m a big hall guy, though, and I don’t have a vote
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1:13 |
: Not to get too into the odds, but do you see Gunnar Henderson as 3x as likely to win AL ROY as Hunter Brown? I know Henderson has the opening day job but Brown seems guaranteed to reach 120 innings and after last year I’m buying that they’ll be high quality innings
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1:14 |
: Yeah, I think it’s reasonable to have Brown as fairly unlikely just b/c I expect the Astros to put him in bubble wrap
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1:14 |
: It’s just hard for pitchers to win rookie of the year given the way teams treat them now
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1:14 |
: Not that it can’t happen, and I think Henderson’s odds are too narrow anyway, so maybe on that front I agree with you, but I want hitters, not pitchers
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1:14 |
: I’d be more interested in Yoshida probably, tbh
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1:15 |
: or heck, go off the board completely for Fujinami if he’s offered somewhere
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1:15 |
: What do you expect in 2023 from a 40 year old Verlander?
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1:15 |
: I dunno, 4 WAR and a bunch of glowers
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1:15 |
: Every year we ask the same question, is this the year Buxton stays healthy and puts up MVP level stats? I just want to see a season of him and Correa together for 120+ games
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1:15 |
: Sure, I’ll say yes for fun
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1:15 |
: I am with you, I want to see it as well, not as a Twins fan but as a baseball fan
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1:16 |
: What do you think of James Wood’s performance on WSN? He also showed good offense on the WSN, but his K% increased significantly.
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1:16 |
: I’ll defer to Eric on this one, so you’ll just have to wait for the top 100 list tomorrow
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1:17 |
: Alright everyone, thanks for chatting today but I have to go walk my dog. Jay Jaffe will be chatting at 2 ET, so if I cruelly neglected to answer your question, I’m sure Jay will be around to also cruelly neglect to answer your question :).
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1:17 |
: Have a great week, everyone, and I’ll chat with you again in a few weeks (I’m on vacation for a bit starting Friday)
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Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Twitter @_Ben_Clemens.
Jordan Montgomery switched over to the Boras Corp for representation a year or two ago, so I find it unlikely he will take the type of extension/deal the Cardinals would offer him (I have a pet theory that he hung out with Cole for a season or two and was intrigued by the Boras Corp lifestyle). If he’s as solid as the numbers say he is, he should get a pretty good deal in free agency.