Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat – 8/16/21

Ben Clemens: Hey everybody, welcome to the chat

Ben Clemens: There’s been some interesting baseball over hte last week, so let’s get to it

‘Dians: Will Fangraphs ever offer win probabilities for individual games during the regular season? I know it exists for the playoffs utilizing Zips, is it too heavy of a lift to update on a day-to-day basis with 30 teams playing?

Ben Clemens: It does exist!

Ben Clemens: https://www.fangraphs.com/livescoreboard.aspx?date=2021-08-16

Ben Clemens: You can see our projected odds for each game that hasn’t started right there

doug: percent chance Alex Reyes starts next year?

Ben Clemens: I’m gonna put it at 55%. It just feels like a thing the Cardinals want to try, and also something that they SHOULD try

Aus: Padres signing arrieta them officially waving the white flag? What a disappointing season

Ben Clemens: I don’t think so, I tihnk it’s more a sign that they are desperate and don’t love their AAA depth

Ben Clemens: It’s certainly bad

Ben Clemens: You don’t want to be counting on a completely cooked Jake Arrieta

Ben Clemens: I just don’t know what else they were supposed to do. Their pitching is just nonexistent at this point

DarthNateR: Question about the playoff odds- they have the Rays most likely winning the division, but it gives the Red Sox and Yankees better odds of winning the World Series. I see that the ROS w% is the lowest of those three on the Rays, but it still seems odd to have the Sox almost double the Rays World Series odds since the Sox are more likely to have a 1 game playoff. Do you think those odds are missing something here?

Ben Clemens: I mean, the odds are what they are. If you think our odds are way too high on the Red Sox (we think they are the 5th-best team in baseball ROS)

Ben Clemens: Then I can’t really argue with you

Ben Clemens: that sounds high!

Ben Clemens: Meanwhile we think the Rays are a .500 team

Ben Clemens: And give the Sox and the Rays a roughly equal chance of winning the division

Ben Clemens: I think it’s a good bet that we’re too low on the Rays, and that does sound kinda high on the Sox

Ben Clemens: But my issue would just be with the fact that we think the Sox are elite and the Rays aren’t, so with the projections. The model is just reflecting that view

Guest: Hey Ben — With the A’s possibly slipping out of playing contention, why did they not bother trying to improve their current biggest issue, that of the black hole of productivity at shortstop?

Ben Clemens: That one is going to sting for sure

Ben Clemens: It’s not the A’s will definitely miss the playoffs

Ben Clemens: But having a shot in the division and also needing to hold off wild card contenders, it’s going to look REALLY bad that they did a bunch of adding but left a huge gap at short

Ben Clemens: it’s not like they needed a star to get better there

The Great Giambino: Re: BoSox/Rays projections, is there ever a scenario where you start weighting the projections for specific teams? E.g. give the Rays and A’s an artificial 2 game boost since they’ve historically outperformed their projections

Ben Clemens: Definitely not lol

Ben Clemens: That’s not really a good way to handle it. We’ve had some behind-the-scenes discussions on whether we could come up with a new way to handle depth

Ben Clemens: That involved some math I don’t truly understand

Ben Clemens: But I don’t think just hard-coding in bumps for teams that generally beat the model is the way to go

John B: With a few weeks of games past the deadline who is the big winner:  Braves, Yankees, cardinals, giants ?

Ben Clemens: Giants for me, and Phillies/Braves in second

Ben Clemens: It’s not that the Giants got more likely to make the playoffs, but we have their odds of winning the west up 12 percentage points since 8/1

Ben Clemens: That’s huge

Ben Clemens: Just holding the Dodgers off is really big

Your Name: Nico Hoerner is probably going to play fewer games than he did last season. Injuries a big concern for him moving forward?

Ben Clemens: Yes, to go along with ‘is he good enough’

Ben Clemens: ‘is he healthy enough’ and ‘is he good enough’ are some rough problems to have

Ben Clemens: I think Hoerner is probably good enough, but a guy who looks like an average player (at best) when healthy is not exactly someone you can stomach injury issues with

Bubba: Mets/Rocker question.  How bad does his health have to be to justify not having him?  Like, even if he has to go get TJ surgery urgently, they’d still have him under their control through recovery and minors and then 6 years, right?  Seems like a classic LolMets thing happening?

Ben Clemens: Oh yeah, for me there’s something fishy here

Ben Clemens: I truly don’t get it

Ben Clemens: And it’s not like they said they were way off… they said they were off a million dollars or so (though this could be a bad leak?)

Ben Clemens: Recouping a draft pick next year means it’s not a TOTAL loss

Ben Clemens: but they lost the entirety of the money they had saved up to sign him over slot

Mo Jiggles: What does Statcast consider the difference between a 2-seamer and a sinker?

Ben Clemens: A few years ago, Statcast recategorized everything to sinker

Ben Clemens: It’s annoying that they still exist separately, I manually combine them when I do analysis

Benintendi: What happened to me?

Ben Clemens: I don’t really have a good answer

Ben Clemens: Really shocking

Ben Clemens: Like, Benintendi being less than his 2018 self is not a shoc

Ben Clemens: shock*

Ben Clemens: but I thought he’d be above replacement level

Your Name: What is your least favorite regularly worn jersey?

Ben Clemens: I don’t like the Reds home whites very much, but I think I’d put the Rockies at the very bottom

Ben Clemens: I realllly don’t like the block caps white jerseys

Ben Clemens: Pirates are on there too

Ben Clemens: The reds one just looks weird b/c there’s not much on the front, which makes the red Nike check look HUGE

Guest: Mets slot money savings – sunk cost. Question is Rocker versus draft pick next year.

Ben Clemens: Well not exactly, it’s Rocker’s surplus vs. that draft pick’s surplus, but yeah. If you think you can get a guy at slot next year who you like more than Rocker, then it’s a worthy pass

Guest: Bad player comp? Kelenic = Benitendi?

Ben Clemens: I think so, just b/c Kelenic has a more power-based game

Ben Clemens: Benintendi is tiny, Kelenic has some pop

Your Name: Funny you said Reds, I was thinking their red alternates. Hate the font they chose and it’s also HUGE.

Ben Clemens: Oh yeah I also don’t like those. I really dislike the block cap fonts that teams think are cool

Nick: Is Jake Arrieta really a better option than anyone else the Padres can throw out there right now?

Ben Clemens: I don’t think so, but I think he’s totally cooked

Ben Clemens: They clearly don’t think that or they wouldn’t have signed him

Ben Clemens: I’d have no interest

Big Mac: Do you think it would help Triston McKenzie if he were to add some weight? Or is being ‘well built’ as a pitcher overrated and is it better to just let a player be comfortable in their body?

Ben Clemens: I think you’re right that bein well built is overrated

Ben Clemens: Having a body type that allows you to throw without discomfort is the goal, or it should be

Dansby SwanSong: Are deGrom and Severino more data points that throwing 100 MPH comes with likely injury risk?  And is rewarding such pitchers with long term contracts a big risk?

Ben Clemens: I mean, they are, but htere are data points that go the other way too

Ben Clemens: Rewarding pitchers with long term contracts period is a big risk, but it comes with rewards

Ham: Reds red alternates have a script, not a block cap font

Ben Clemens: These must be different than the ones I’m thinking of then

Ben Clemens: Ohhhh… just looked these up

Ben Clemens: Yeah, font too big and strange, but not block

Joseph: On Elvis Andrus, he is one of the largest xwoba underperformers this year, so if you buy into that as him being unlucky this year, you might view him more as a 1-1.5 WAR veteran with plus intangibles vs. washed up replacement guy

Ben Clemens: Not buying it even a little

Ben Clemens: The reason he’s underperforming his xwOBA is because he hasn’t gotten enough production out of his line drives

Ben Clemens: So sure, you can expect that to pop back up

Ben Clemens: But he’s also running a 25.8% line drive rate vs. career 21.4%

Ben Clemens: So he’ll hit fewer line drives next year most likely, and do better on the ones he does hit, net not too much effect

Ben Clemens: This is one of the things about xwOBA that makes it tough to use — it’s more descriptive than predictive, so if you have a fluky-high line drive rate or something, or hit a ton of flares, it will give you a big number

Ben Clemens: But those things aren’t very predictive

Ben Clemens: The parts of hitting that are predictive make Andrus look bad. He’s hitting fewer balls hard, not barreling anything, highest strikeout rate of his career

xwOBA: If it’s not predictive, shouldn’t it be more like “underlying wOBA” than “expected”

Ben Clemens: It’s what you would expect their wOBA to have been based on their batted balls

Ben Clemens: But yeah, I’m with you, the name definitely can be confusing

Nathan: If a player is exceeding or underperforming his xwOBA, is it always explainable by luck, or is there a point where his actual performance is who he is regardless of what it says?

Ben Clemens: DEFINITELY not always explainable by luck

Ben Clemens: I would argue it’s often not explainable by luck

Ben Clemens: xwOBA is a neat tool but it’s certainly not foolproof

Severino: His contract was all of four not very expensive years. Yeah, hasn’t worked out, but, like, that was not a dumb deal.

Ben Clemens: Right, and I think the Mets would sign deGrom again

Don: Why don’t projection systems favor Tyler O’Neill RoS? No big expected rise or fall in K% or BB%; it seems to be based on BABIP regression, but xBA and xwOBA exceed BA and wOBA, and he’s got a 55 HH% and 18 Barrel%. Is .356 really unsustainable?

Ben Clemens: Similar deal to Andrus. It’s reasonable to think he won’t keep hitting 26% line drives, which will cut into his BABIP

Ben Clemens: I think they’re too low on his babip, regression or not

Ben Clemens: B/c his combination of hard-hit rate and speed tends to lead to high babips

Ben Clemens: Is his babip unsustainable? Probably long-run yeah. But if it’s .330 or something (that’s basically his career average) it’s still a better line than his projections

Ben Clemens: I’d take the over on our 108 ROS wRC+, but the under on 120

Draper: Who do you think the wild cards will be for each league?

Guest: Think the Reds can chase down the Padres?  The Reds have some issues with Winker being out and the bullpen still being shaky, but the Padres’ rotation has been a shambles.

Ben Clemens: I’ll take the Padres, it feels like the teams are just trading awful injury news (Winker is out now) but the Padres are ahead and weathered Tatis being out without losing the lead

Bryan Reynolds: Dark Horse MVP? .309/.391/.536 🤤

Ben Clemens: I mean, no, but definite MVP vote-getter

Ben Clemens: Reynolds has continued to impress at the plate throughout the year, particularly when it comes to power

Ben Clemens: That’s what really surprises me most about him; the babip has always been there, but he’s getting to his power way more than I thought he would

MM: How do statcasts stats like xBA handle things like the way defenses position their players?  A line drive hit really hard by a LH batter directly at where a 3B traditionally plays would be an out, but against a shift where 3B is in RF that same hit it is going to be a double.  So the actual expected BA on that would be different today than, say several years ago when there were fewer shifts.

Ben Clemens: They handle it by COMPLETELY ignoring horizontal angle

Ben Clemens: Down the 3b line? Right at short? Right at second? All treated the same

Ben Clemens: Is that the right way to treat it? I dunno

Ben Clemens: But that’s what it does

Nathan: If I have bunch of players’ wrc+ and I want to see what their team wrc+ would be if they were all together do I just average them all? Or do I need more information like plate appearances or something?

Ben Clemens: You could average them together and get close, but it wouldn’t be perfect just b/c the #1 hitter will bat more than the #9 hitter

Ben Clemens: But you’d get pretty close, it’s probably good enough for theoretical purposes

Johnny5Alive: Is senzel basically done in Cincinnati? they optioned him after his IL stint was done, and then opted to not call him up when they put Winker on the IL.

Ben Clemens: It kind of feels like it, right?

Ben Clemens: I think they also might think he’s not ready, or not fully back from injury

Ben Clemens: I think they’ll give him a shot next year, for example

Ben Clemens: But his rehab time was basically up, and if they were watching him and not into what they were seeing, I don’t hate just calling this year a wash and putting him in AAA

segiddins: Obligatory gaming question: have you played Arkham Horror? My friend and I have been playing it over mission burritos the past few weeks and I feel like it’s getting me back into tabletop gaming. If you have, any other games like it that you’d reccomend?

Ben Clemens: I have played Arkham Horror, it’s a ton of fun

Ben Clemens: I like that co-op style of game; Aeon’s End (and Aeon’s End Legacy) are similarly-styled games minus the walking around a board part that my wife and I have liked playing

Ben Clemens: We have played, I dunno, maybe 6 Arkham Horror missions?

Ben Clemens: Or whatver they’re called, Mythos packs

Ben Clemens: So I’m not an expert

Tacoby Bellsbury: So, you have to play any board game vs. Brian Cashman: you win, you get to GM the Yankees, you lose, you work on the janitorial staff there until age 65. You taking Candyland, or a game of skill?

Ben Clemens: Depends on if he gets to practice or not

Ben Clemens: If we’re playing right now, I’d just pick something that he’s surely never played but that is semi-solvable

Ben Clemens: If he’s going to get a month to practice and he’ll actually practice instead of, you know, running the Yankees

Ben Clemens: I’d honestly still pick a skill-based board game I think? I have to think that something where I’ve spent years learning the angles gives me a better than coinflip shot

Draper: With Degrom’s missed time, Wheeler or Buehler for Cy? Layman here but, briefly, what mainly accounts for Wheeler’s WAR advantage over Buehler?

Ben Clemens: I give Buehler the edge despite Wheeler’s WAR lead

Ben Clemens: As to what leads to the WAR, it’s a few things

Ben Clemens: First, Wheeler has a slightly lower FIP and we base our headline WAR off of FIP. Wheeler has allowed more runners who reach base to score, and FIP kind of normalizes for that

Ben Clemens: Also, Philly is a tougher place to pitch than LA

Ben Clemens: Per our park factors, it’s roughly average for run scoring overall, while LA is 5% below average

Ben Clemens: So a pitcher of the same quality would allow fewer runs in LA. So we credit Wheeler with the difference (or debit Buehler the edge, whichever you want to call it)

Ben Clemens: But I think that ERA is meaningful for Cy Young (hot take I know), and Buehler is pushing 2.00 while going 12-2 for a great team

Ben Clemens: It’s just a really broad overall resume

Joe: Burnes not a consideration for NL Cy?

Ben Clemens: He is as well for sure

Ben Clemens: I think the lack of innings will doom him though

Ben Clemens: Wheeler has pitched 40 more innings so far

Ben Clemens: It’s just a LOT

Ben Clemens: If Burnes was only 20 innings behind it’d be one thing

Ben Clemens: I’d probably vote Burnes anyway but I don’t think voters will

Doug: If the Phillies win the division, there’s got to be a reasonable chance they get both the Cy Young and MVP winners, right?

Ben Clemens: Yes, for sure

Ben Clemens: I think in a year with no clear standout

Ben Clemens: Voters will care more about players who lead their team to the playoffs

Ben Clemens: Like, there are no obvious best players in the NL and plenty of people within margin of error for WAR

Brian: You buying this Cardinals outfield for the future?  if the changes oneill and bader made are real its a pretty legit group

Ben Clemens: Yeah, the outfield is my favorite part of this Cards team

Ben Clemens: Bader is a blast to watch, O’Neill looks like at least an average player (he’s the one I’m most worried about still), and Carlson is doing as well as I could have hoped, solidly above average hitter at 22

BettsBellingerCaruso: Who would you start in a WC game – Buehler or Scherzer?

Ben Clemens: Buehler I guess, but it’s tough

Ben Clemens: I think it’s reasonable to defer to the guy who has been there longer and who will stay for longer

Ben Clemens: B/c there’s not a huge difference in projections from here on out

BringBackDeSpanielHair: Tatis has got to be in the running for NL MVP, no? He’s flat out shoving, even with injuries.

Ben Clemens: He is as well. He’s in the within a margin of error group at the top of the league

Ben Clemens: But I think if Harper and Tatis have basically the same WAR but hte Phillies win the East

Ben Clemens: More people will vote for Harper

John B: Wainwright getting Cy votes ?  Lots of innings and other than a couple early season clunkers he’s been lights out

Ben Clemens: Uh, sadly no.

Ben Clemens: You only vote 5 slots for Cy Young

Ben Clemens: Wainwright is 11th in ERA among qualifiers

Ben Clemens: You’d have to vote for him over: Walker Buehler, Brandon Woodruff, Corbin Burnes, Zack Wheeler, Max Scherzer, dG, Kevin Gausman

Ben Clemens: I mean, he’ll maybe get a few 5th-place votes

Ben Clemens: And his season is tremendous!

Ben Clemens: If it went 10 deep, he’d get a ton of mid-range votes

Ben Clemens: But 5 is just tough

dave in slc: do you do fantasy? in an nl keeper league trying to win and both pitching and hitting are close for me so wondering if Nola $28 and Smith $19 are worth Carlson $10 and Devin Williams $5 and Neris $6? I like Carlson as a keeper and not *sure* if Nola has been or will be good enough down the stretch to warrant the deal. I would replace Carlson w Jace Petersen. Would I lose too much offense and a good keeper or is it worth it?

Ben Clemens: I’m a Nola skeptic, but if you’re less down on him than I am, I think it probably makes sense? Carlson is not a super-huge steal depending on your keeper inflation anyway, and Williams, eh… he’s solid, but hopes that he was gonna be  another relief unicorn are maybe fading

boobie miles: Hi Ben, …Reid Detmers or Casey Mize…higher upside longterm?

Ben Clemens: Detmers for me

Ben Clemens: I’d rather have a 70 curve than a 70 splitter, basically

#1 Flan: Thoughts on the AL Cy Young race?

Ben Clemens: It’s a weird one

Ben Clemens: Cole and Lynn are 1/2 in some order right now I’d assume

Ben Clemens: You can see Tom Tango’s Cy Tracker estimates here if you want:

Ben Clemens: https://www.baseballmusings.com/cgi-bin/CyYoungTracker.py

Mitchell: Should the Jays feel comfortable offering Robbie Ray a 3/48 deal or is that too rich?

Ben Clemens: I’d feel comfortable offering it, if that means anything

Roger: I’d take the splitter. Hitters see it less often. But preference. You think the Angels ever figure it out, or Trout is basically doomed?

Ben Clemens: Yeah, I think that’s kinda baked into the grades, but that’s fair. I think it’s close either way

Ben Clemens: Ugh I hate to say it but at this point I’d bet on them never figuring it out

Ben Clemens: They just…. they’ve kept not?

Guest: Jake Meyers came out of no where for a really strong season in AAA. Now the Astros called him up and he’s off to a hot start. What are the chances he’s the real deal?

Ben Clemens: I truly don’t know what to make of him

Ben Clemens: I mean, he was absurd in AAA this year, and it wasn’t just BABIP

Ben Clemens: But his previous minor league numbers don’t come close to jumping off the page

Ben Clemens: I’ll give him 15% odds that he’s a real-deal every day starter for a good team

R Eric Reuss: SPIRIT. ISLAND.

Ben Clemens: Oh yeah, Spirit Island is excellent

Ben Clemens: I’ve only played it once or twice, but it was a blast and I want to play more

Ben Clemens: Really fun theme too

Guest: Re: Cy Young: Do you think voters would be deterred from voting for Cole because of suspicions that his success was built on the use of illegal substances?

Ben Clemens: No. If he’s getting first place votes, it will mean he has pitched well the rest of the year

Ben Clemens: More than half of his starts will hvae taken place post-sticky-stuff crackdown

Ben Clemens: Will there be some suspicions? Yeah of course

Ben Clemens: But if he has a strong September, it’s not like you can devalue that

Mugghead: Can we expect Matt Boyd to make any kind of impact once he returns?

Ben Clemens: I’m just gonna say no, sadly

Ben Clemens: I’m not a Boyd Boy though

Ben Clemens: He has looked way better this year!

Ben Clemens: but his strikeout rate just keeps going down

Sharps: Come to DC.  Check out the AAAA Washington Nationals.  Visit the best board game restaurant in the country.

Ben Clemens: Talk to me about this board game restaurant

Sharps: Crossroads Tabletop Tavern.  1400+ games.  Food.  Local alcohol.

Ben Clemens: That sounds awesome

Ben Clemens: I’m actually going to DC for a wedding next month, but not gonna have time to check that out sadly

Ben Clemens: DC has some good local beers, my stepbrother lives in Alexandria and sometimes we bike to Port City which is always a treat

Kiermaier’s Piercing Green Eyes: How crunchy is Spirit Island? The other half ****ing loves Pandemic and I’ve been eyeing it as our next coop game, but I know it’s a big step up.

Ben Clemens: So, a really good part about it is that there are characters of differing complexity

Ben Clemens: And they’re clearly marked

Sharps: It avoids alpha-gaming by keeping everyone busy, the theme is amazing.  If you want to check it out, I highly recommend the app, because it is mostly out of stock 🙁

Ben Clemens: Yeah board games being out of stock everywhere is an annoying pandemic thing

Guest: You think Cole *will* have a good September then?  His post-crackdown splits don’t seem all that suggestive of an outstanding month coming up for him.

Ben Clemens: I’m not sure! He looked bad for two starts after the change, then dominant for two, then bad for two

Ben Clemens: That CGSO in Houston was awesome

Your Name: Would you rather listen to ARod call every game you watch or have to stand during every game you watch?

Ben Clemens: Have to stand

Appa Yip Yip: Ray’s free agency is going to be so fascinating. He was bad quite recently, but he’s also made mechanical adjustments and altered his pitch mix and it appears to be working. I wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up with five years in the 90-110 range on the high end. He’s only 29.

Ben Clemens: Yeah, the thing that makes me think he’ll do well in free agency is that he was always SEMI wild but his awful 2020 form is easy to discount

Ben Clemens: He tried new mechanics, they didn’t work at all, he scrapped them

Ben Clemens: So if you think that throwing his fastball more, dicthing two-seamers altogether, and going slider over curve is enough to improve his zone rate

Ben Clemens: And I do think that

Ben Clemens: Then you can buy in on his improvement. Maybe not that this is his true talent walk rate, but that it’s way better than Past Robbie Ray

Ben Clemens: and Past Robbie Ray wasn’t unplayable by any means, even with the walks

Sam: Will the qualifying offer thin Ray’s market at all?

Ben Clemens: Really gonna depend on the CBA

Ben Clemens: There may not be qualifying offers!

Roger: Is it really Moreno mainly? I mean, there must be people in the Angels brain trust that realize. Hey, we have a good position player group. Let’s get some pitchers. Trade some prospects if need be (are you getting questions about marsh trades already like you were for Adell after a bad month or so btw?) Idk. I get it isn’t as easy as it may seem, and apparently they went after Cole and whoever else. But I mean c’mon. You can’t  find any pitching that’s more likely to be successful than not?

Ben Clemens: It feels like that is part of it, but I think at some poit you have to look at the PD as well

Ben Clemens: It’s not like teams only get good pitching by signing Gerrit Cole

Hey: Last two seasons (148 games) Teo Hernandez has been rocking a .378 wOBA and put up 4.3 WAR. Slightly different hitting profile this year, but he seems to always hit it hard. Is this his level?

Ben Clemens: This is probably not his level, b/c I don’t think he will keep doing QUITE so much damage on contact, but solidly above average hitter? I think that’s definitely his level

BringBackDeSpanielHair: Ben, my dude… I am trying to eek out a playoff clinching win here this week. Pick two of four? H2H Pts league, W+ QS, Robbie Ray vs Detroit, Giolito @ TBR, Castillo vs MIA, and Manoah @ WAS?

Ben Clemens: Sadly don’t think Gio is in the mix here. I guess I’d go Ray/Castillo, but Manoah is making it interesting

Ben Clemens: That Washington lineup is dire some days

Sam: The Jays look like they may fall short of the playoffs this year even though they have two of the top five position players in baseball, and used the deadline to make a pretty solid rotation. They’ve also underperformed their expected wins. What do they need to do in the offseason to get in the playoffs next year?

Ben Clemens: Build starting depth, and find some more arms for the bullpen

Guest: Is it realistic to expect the Nationals to be playoff contenders next year?  They could easily bring Scherzer back and, say, sign Trevor Story of Corey Seager in free agency.  That I think would put them in the mix.

Ben Clemens: I mean, I guess

Ben Clemens: I’m not convinced they’ll actually make those two moves

Ben Clemens: They’d be right in contention in the NLE if they did that

Ben Clemens: But I am more and more getting the sense that they’re retrenching

Mitch: Free agent outfielders Canha, Marte, Taylor. Who gets the most money?

Ben Clemens: I think Marte will, and I think Taylor will remain in LA somehow

Guest: Does Nick Madrigal make the playoffs as a Cub?  Or is their rebuild going to extend beyond the years of team control over him?

Ben Clemens: Gonna say yes

Ben Clemens: I think the Cubs are in a position where they’ll want to spend and make the playoffs sometime soon-ish

Ben Clemens: 2023/24

Ben Clemens: Madrigal is there for a while

Ben Clemens: And make the playoffs once? Low bar

Ben Clemens: Alright, on that note, I’m gonna call it a day and eat a lovely tomato gallette my wife made for lunch

Ben Clemens: Have a great week, everyone