Brad Lidge’s Memorable Moment

If we were to sit down and create a list of the five most memorable baseball moments of the 21st century, the home run Albert Pujols hit off Brad Lidge in Game Three Five of the 2005 NLCS would be on it. It’s not even a question of if it would be on the list, but where. Baseball has a way of making your jaw drop — think David Freese, Aaron Boone, Bill Buckner — and that homer certainly qualifies. The crowd going dead silent in an instant, Andy Pettitte saying “oh my gosh,” the thud of the ball off the window … we remember it like it was yesterday.

Fair or not, that homer is the first thing that jumps to everyone’s mind when they think of Lidge. He was arguably the most dominant relief pitcher in baseball at the time, pitching to a 2.10 ERA (2.44 FIP) with 14.15 K/9 (39.4 K%) in 165.1 innings from 2004-2005. His 157 strikeouts in 2004 were the most by a pitcher who pitched exclusively in relief since Mark Eichhorn struck out 166 batters in 1986. Eichhorn did it in 157 innings. Lidge did it in 94.2. Carlos Marmol is the only pitcher to come within 25 strikeouts of Lidge’s total since 2004 (138 in 2010).

Earlier this month, Lidge quietly announced his retirement from baseball following a career that spanned parts of eleven seasons. He ranks 37th on the all-time saves list with 225, sandwiched right between Hoyt Wilhelm and Gene Garber. At some point next year Huston Street will pass him, then J.J. Putz will pass him the year after. Lidge is third on the Astros all-time saves list behind Billy Wagner and Dave Smith, and fourth on the Phillies all-time saves list behind Jose Mesa, Steve Bedrosian, and Mitch Williams. His place among history’s greatest closers won’t get him remembered, but that homer will.

Personally, there are three things about Lidge that stick out to me. First, it’s that utterly insane 2004 effort. Craig Kimbrel just had a season for the ages, but in 2004 Lidge pitched to level that wasn’t too far below Kimbrel’s while throwing 51% more innings in much less pitcher-friendly era. Secondly, it’s the strikeouts. Among pitchers who have thrown at least 600 career innings, a list that is 1,741 players deep, Lidge’s 11.92 K/9 and 30.9 K% are tops among right-handers and second overall to Wagner. During the PITCHf/x era, batters whiffed at his slider with more than 45% of their swings. That doesn’t even include his peak 2004-2005 seasons.

Third, it’s how that homer by Pujols supposedly screwed him up. Lidge allowed runs in two of his next three postseason outings that year after allowing runs in two of his first 13 playoff games. He pitched to a 5.28 ERA and 3.79 FIP the following season, which was wildly out of line with his career norms, and was demoted out of the closer’s role. Pujols had broken him, as the story goes. A year later he was traded to the Phillies for a package headlined by Michael Bourn only to have a brilliant 2008 campaign (1.95 ERA and 2.41 FIP) that resulted in a World Championship. If the Pujols homer is the first mental image you see when you think of Lidge, this is probably second.

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Lidge, who turns 36 this weekend, was never really the same after that 2008 season, though there was no jaw-dropping moment to build a narrative around. He was relatively young but his arm was not — throwing slider after slider in 65+ appearances year after year takes a toll on a pitcher physically. Very few guys are built to throw 50%+ sliders over the long haul. Injuries were starting to pop up, his command was starting to slip, all sorts of perfectly normal age-relate things started to set in. Lidge was broken for good this time, but not because of Pujols.

Fittingly, Lidge’s final act as a Major Leaguer was a strikeout. He unceremoniously whiffed Freddy Garcia in extra innings of an interleague game against the Yankees this summer after allowing the go-ahead runs to score. Washington designated him for assignment a day later and no team picked him for the remainder of the season. Lidge retires with 799 strikeouts, 225 saves, several seasons as one of baseball’s most dominant relievers, a handful of Cy Young and MVP votes, and one really bad pitch that he’d like to have back. Despite a great career, he’ll always be remembered for being on the wrong end of one of baseball’s most memorable moments.





Mike writes about the Yankees at River Ave. Blues and baseball in general at CBS Sports.

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Brian
13 years ago

Not in Philly, where his strikeout of Eric Hinske to end the 2008 World Series will be remembered forever

cable fixer
13 years ago
Reply to  Brian

completely agree. i read this and was semi-surprised that this wasn’t an article about 2008.

but yeah, i’m a phan.

James
13 years ago
Reply to  cable fixer

Also surprising, no .gifs of unhittable sliders.

Outside of Philadelphia, I would guess the Pujols HR is more well remembered, and that the 2008 World Series is remembered more for the weather (and “World ****ing Champions”).

MikeS
13 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Or in Chicago, where he is remembered for giving up Podsednik’s walk off in Game 2 of the WS a few days after the Pujols shot.

In the grand scheme of things, the Pods HR was a bigger play and a bigger shock. WS instead of ALCS, put his team down 2 – 0 instead of just delaying clinching the pennant and it is a little more excusable to allow a HR to Pujols then Podsednik.

Dan Rozenson
13 years ago

It is kind of sad that as soon as I read, “Brad Lidge’s Memorable Moment,” the Pujols homer came to mind.

Also, I was at that game this year against the Yankees. Again, kind of sad that I spent the whole year questioning why Davey Johnson ever brought him in.

Richard
13 years ago

“Fair or not, that homer is the first thing that jumps to everyone’s mind when they think of Lidge.”

Um, no.

Even setting aside Lidge’s great 2008 and iconic image after the last out of that year’s World Series, I simply fail to understand why Albert Pujols hitting a homerun – however important for that game, or however long it was – is supposed to be so unusual that it’s the only thing that comes to mind for people when Lidge’s name is mentioned. Bullshit.

Padman Jones
13 years ago
Reply to  Richard

You’ve got the wrong word. It’s not *unusual* that Pujols hit a home run (even one that stretches at the upper bound definition of ‘home run’ the way his did), but it certainly was *memorable*.

I for one clicked the link expecting the memorable moment to be the Pujols homer.

Sparkles Peterson
13 years ago
Reply to  Padman Jones

Pujols hitting a HR off anyone shouldn’t be a big story, but 1) Lidge was in the running for the most dominating pitcher in MLB history at the time, 2) Albert destroyed that pitch, and 3) Lidge took a long time to recover from it, if the popular narrative is to be believed. Maybe the Podsednik HR was bigger, but it only happened because Albert broke him. Maybe his 2008 season was incredible, but largely because he had finally righted the ship after Pujols sunk it.

James Gentile
13 years ago
Reply to  Richard

Gotta say it’s the first thing I think of. That home run was M.E.A.N. If you re-watch the video, you can actually hear Lidge’s heart sink into his stomach.

Sorry Phillie fans, but this moment is engraved in my memory forever. Some lame run of consecutive meaningless stat over 40 Appearences just doesn’t have the drama that Pujols’s long ball does.

JB
13 years ago
Reply to  James Gentile

Meaningless stat vs. an ultimately meaningless homer.

Matt
13 years ago
Reply to  James Gentile

Meaningless stat that directly contributed to a World Series championship? What’s your definition of meaningless?

Daniel
13 years ago
Reply to  Richard

I figured it would be the Pujols homer in the NLCS when I saw the title. That moment was unforgettable.

I’m an Angels fan, so there was no vested interest in either of those teams (or in the Phillies).

JB
13 years ago

Everyone outside the Philadelphia area, maybe. Seriously, Albert who?

Matt
13 years ago

Pretty sure the first thing everyone remembers is his perfect 2008. The Pujols homer is an after thought

David H
13 years ago
Reply to  Matt

The Pujols home run is certainly the first thing that comes to my mind when someone mentions Lidge. I didn’t even remember that he was perfect in 2008 until you mentioned it. Which makes sense, because images tend to make more lasting memories.

vivalajeter
13 years ago
Reply to  David H

I’m the opposite. I remember that he was perfect in 2008 and I vaguely recall that they barely made the playoffs that year (if he blew a few games they wouldn’t have made the post-season). However, if this article wasn’t written then I probably wouldn’t have remembered the HR for the rest of my life.

steex
13 years ago
Reply to  David H

Agreed. In fact, I read the title and chuckled “it should be the Pujols homer” to myself, fully expecting that I was about to be told that something else I couldn’t think of was his memorable moment. Instead, it turns out I was right. Like David, I had also forgotten that Lidge was perfect in 2008.

Mcneildon
13 years ago
Reply to  David H

People in Philadelphia don’t consider the perfect saves stat memorable. What they find memorable is that he struck out the last batter to win the city’s first championship in 25 years.

FS54
13 years ago
Reply to  Matt

When me and my cousin talk about Lidge ever, Pujols home run is the first thing we mention that how awesome it was. How Houston hitters were barely hitting dingers by tapping balls, barely getting them in RF or LF stands and Pujols just crushed that pitch to show them how to hit HRs.

Kelsey
13 years ago

The Pujols home run was in game five, not three. I was sitting in right centerfield, a few rows up from the bullpen. One of the best and worst games I’ve ever been to.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/HOU/HOU200510170.shtml

Givejonadollar
13 years ago

I was always fan of “Big, Bad, Brad Lidge” and even traded for him in video games. He was a great closer and I would have loved for the Cubs to have him at some point back in the day.

Seb
13 years ago

What was the estimated distance of that mammoth of a home run?

Jim
13 years ago

I just texted a Cardinals fan friend of mine asking him what Brad Lidge’s most memorable moment was and he said the K to end the World Series. I asked him about the Pujols HR and he said “that was great but it doesn’t beat winning a WS”. I’m gonna have to agree with him on this one.

steex
13 years ago
Reply to  Jim

In fairness, his follow-up response makes it sound like the question he actually chose to answer was “what was Brad Lidge’s greatest moment?” rather than “what was Brad Lidge’s most memorable moment?”

His most memorable moment should be the first one you think of, good or bad, not the moment you can remember and then qualitatively determine to be the greatest.

china_dave
13 years ago

“Despite a great career, he’ll always be remembered for being on the wrong end of one of baseball’s most memorable moments.”

Nope.

Love,

A Phillies fan

p.s. Thanks for the memories, Brad.

Phils_Goodman
13 years ago

“Fair or not, that homer is the first thing that jumps to everyone’s mind when they think of Lidge.”

Nope.

Tim L
13 years ago

Pujols’ homer didn’t end up meaning a thing. The Cards lost the series anyway.

That strikeout was far more memorable, IMO.

steex
13 years ago
Reply to  Tim L

But memorable does not equal impactful. Whether the homer ultimately meant anything or not, it’s very memorable. Many people’s most distinct memory of Ozzie Smith is him doing a backflip as he ran out onto the field, but I’m pretty sure it never impacted the results of any game.

At any rate, this is clearly very subjective. There’s no objective way to define what someone else remembers most.

Antonio bananas
13 years ago

Also in this video, Mike Shannon being a buzzed unbearable homer. As a non cards fan in Missouri, he makes me hate them.

When I think of Lidge, I think of his celebration winning the World Series.

Alan
13 years ago

Like the other Phillies fans I was looking forward to seeing the final out of the 2008 Season: a perfect season, Philadelphia’s first championship in 25 years and a rain delayed game screwed up by Bud Selig – seriously you don’t get any more memorable than that!

JC
13 years ago

I’m with Mike, it’s the first thought I have when thinking of Lidge. The Damon 57 pitch at bat and subsequent double steal in ’09 is up there too

A damn fine pitcher

KM
13 years ago

Poor wording by claiming to speak for “everyone” as far Lidge’s most “memorable” moment – an absolute statement about something pretty subjective. I had forgotten about the HR myself, but I could see how someone more invested in that game than me would remember it.

BD
13 years ago

I immediately thought of the Pujols HR when I saw the headline, because I’ve had this same conversation with my brother (who’s a Phillies fan). What’s so incredible to me about that home run is the fact that it’s memorable despite ultimately not mattering. It’s like Carlton Fisk’s HR or Byung-Hyun Kim’s blown saves – the series went the other way, but they’re what everyone remembers.

MFYG
13 years ago

just a warning if you haven’t clicked the video link yet. CLICK MUTE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. I had no idea the cards announcers were that bad.