Brewers Pass Over Ace to Gain Advantage
With the presence of two analytically driven clubs in the NLCS, much of the attention paid to the series will focus on how each team responds to moves made by the other in an effort to gain the upper hand. For the Brewers, one area particularly well suited for creative decision-making is the rotation. As documented by Jeff Sullivan last week, Brewers starters recorded the highest collective ERA of all this year’s playoff teams after accounting for league and park. The weaknesses of the rotation, however — in the hands of a club willing to ask questions — also represents an opportunity for creative solutions.
Consider: in the team’s incredibly important Game 163, manager Craig Counsell opted for the team’s best starting pitcher, Jhoulys Chacin, on short rest. Then, in Game One of the Division Series against the Rockies, the Brewers piggybacked Brandon Woodruff and Corbin Burnes before going with Chacin on short rest again for the second game of the series. Counsell bypassed Wade Miley until Game Three of the Division Series and passed over Gio Gonzalez entirely.
For the series with the Dodgers, though, those final two pitchers, Gonzalez and Miley, have been named as the starters for Games One and Two, respectively — even though nominal ace Chacin is available on full rest. In this case, however, the use of the two lesser pitchers might ultimately give the Brewers and advantage,
The Brewers employed a bit of gamesmanship with regard to their probable starters for the NLCS, waiting until just yesterday to announce their choices. How they deploy their rotation, though, could have a real effect on the starting lineup selected by Dodgers manager Dave Roberts. To get a better sense of what I mean, let’s start by examining the potential lineups for the Dodgers with the right-handed Chacin on the mound versus either of the two left-handers.
Below is a table featuring the players used of late by Roberts depending on the handedness of the opposing starter. I’ve included the Dodgers lineup against the Braves’ Sean Newcomb in the recently completed NLDS plus the last handful of games against lefties in the regular season. I’ve tried, as best as possible, to organize players by position.
| Pos | v. RHP | v Braves LHP | v LHP Reg Season |
|---|---|---|---|
| C | Yasmani Grandal | Yasmani Grandal | Yasmani Grandal |
| 1B | Max Muncy | David Freese | David Freese |
| 2B | Enrique Hernandez | Enrique Hernandez | Brian Dozier |
| 3B | Justin Turner | Justin Turner | Justin Turner |
| SS | Manny Machado | Manny Machado | Manny Machado |
| LF | Joc Pederson | Chris Taylor | Chris Taylor |
| CF | Cody Bellinger | Cody Bellinger | Enrique Hernandez |
| RF | Yasiel Puig | Matt Kemp | Matt Kemp |
In the regular season, Dodgers non-pitchers recorded a 124 wRC+ against right-handers and just a 106 wRC+ against lefties. On the surface, then, it would appear as though the decision to use Gonzalez and Miley is almost a no-brainer.
There’s some reason to think that those numbers don’t represent the true talent of the team’s lineup versus lefties. For one, Brian Dozier and Logan Forsythe combined for just a a 47 wRC+ in 172 PA. Against Atlanta, Roberts used neither of them, instead moving Cody Bellinger out to center and Kike Hernández to second. While Bellinger might not be great against lefties, he’s produced an 88 wRC+ against them this season and was well above average a year ago. Add in a full complement of Manny Machado, who only arrived in mid-July, and there’s going to be some improvement there as well.
Max Muncy actually hit very well against lefties during the season, but David Freese has crushed them over the last three years, with a 140 wRC+ during that period and 134 wRC+ mark for his career. With the remaining right-handers getting boosts from the platoon advantage against a Gonzalez or Miley, that leaves the move from Joc Pederson (against righties) to Chris Taylor (against lefties) as the most significant drop-off between the two lineups. Add in Grandal’s inferior numbers from the right side and Bellinger’s drop against lefties, and the Dodgers certainly appear more well equipped to beat right-handed pitchers, even if not to the extent that their season-long numbers indicate.
So Counsell will go with consecutive lefties, and Roberts will go with his (weaker, but not-that-weak) platoon lineups. Strategically, that only accounts for part of the game, however. The next question comes when the Brewers elect to pull their Gonzalez and Miley. While both are technically starting pitchers, neither are likely to be managed as typical starters in the NLCS, especially if they get into trouble or the Brewers take an early lead. Brandon Woodruff and Corbin Burnes showed in Game One of the Division Series that they can pitch multiple innings. The same goes for Junior Guerra and Freddy Peralta. Milwaukee could use a variety of potential partnerships — like following Gonzalez with Woodruff or Miley with Burnes — in an attempt to navigate the game into the latter innings. The Brewers want Knebel, Hader, Soria, and Jeffress to get innings six through nine, so using a lefty one time through the order could be the play. With four potential relievers capable of going multiple innings and all currently available for outs late in games, the Brewers can use their bullpen early without worrying too much about fatiguing pitchers early in the series.
For those scoring at home, we have now established a move (Counsell’s use of a lefty starter), a countermove (Roberts’ platoon lineup), and a counter-countermove (the Brewers’ options after pulling their lefty starter). Next comes the option for Roberts to potentially replace some of his righty-batting starters. That’s exactly what Roberts did against the Braves when Sean Newcomb was pulled in the third inning, substituting Max Muncy for David Freese. The problem for Roberts isn’t that he doesn’t have the bench to make these moves, it’s that it takes away his flexibility. Because Walker Buehler settled down in that Atlanta game, Yasiel Puig didn’t have to pinch-hit until the sixth inning. Because his best bench bat in Muncy was burned, however — and because he wanted to keep Puig in the game — a double-switch moved the pitcher’s spot up four spots in the order to fifth. Then, when the fifth spot came up, another bench bat was used in Brian Dozier. After Dozier singled, Roberts had no right-handed bench bats to face lefty A.J. Minter. Bellinger struck out in one of the highest-leverage plate appearances in the game.
More double-switches were then required to move the pitcher’s spot into the seventh spot in the lineup, but that meant keeping Dozier in the game. That made a difference, as the highest leverage plate appearance of the game was taken by Dozier with runners at second and third and two outs in the ninth against righty Arodys Vizcaino. Dozier struck out swinging with only backup catcher and right-handed hitting Austin Barnes on the bench.
Counsell could be accused of overmanaging. The conventional wisdom says simply, “Start your best pitcher.” While Jhoulys Chacin has been good this season, he isn’t exactly a conventional ace, having put up a roughly league-average 4.03 FIP on the season. He also has some platoon issues that could be exploited by a team like the Dodgers. Waiting to use Chacin until the team is in a bigger park in Los Angeles and giving him extra rest after three starts in 10 days could help the right-hander. Counsell isn’t necessarily trying to outsmart the Dodgers. He’s simply forcing them to make some moves that could result in suboptimal choices. The Brewers don’t have Clayton Kershaw, Hyun-Jin Ryu, or Walker Buehler. Pretending like they do would simply be playing into the Dodgers’ hands. The advantages here might be slight, but Milwaukee needs to take them where they can get them in a short series.
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Another reason: Brewers use Chacin right before they basically need to do a bullpen game in game 4, as he is their best shot to go deep into the game, hopefully allows for a fresher bullpen for that game. Plus, he’s still available to start 2 games in the Series if it goes 7 / is available to start game 1 of the WS if it doesn’t go 7.
I agree. Scary that Chacin is their only decent bet to pitch past 5 innings. That is a gamble! if Chacin doesn’t have some magic in his hat, then they don’t even have their best mop-up guy (and bomb dropper) available. You never know how games are going to play out… but if Chacin gets lit, then MIL is immediately done I think for the game. He has spent his entire career in the NL West so LA should be very familiar with him. Ironically, the best that MIL might be hoping for is a script-flip of game 1 – putting heat on that bullpen would help their cause.
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one question. If Gonzalez/Miley only go thru lineup 1 time, then going to righties, could we possibly see them in games 4 and 5 in LA? Then making the bullpen game game 6? With then both of them plus Chacin available in game 7 on somewhat decent rest- where they could start Gonzalez, then Miley, and then ideally Hader to close it out? Where none of the Dodgers lefties could have the platoon advantage even once???
You think they will stick that tightly to a schedule? I don’t claim to know. Game 1 didn’t go so well aside from 4 errors – I think that strategy flies out the window when you play a team that scores runs. I don’t think LA is too threatened by Gio or Wade Miley regardless of handedness.
I assume Roberts will platoon, but I wonder if the better countermove would be to stack lefties since Gio will likely only pitch once through the lineup and almost all of the Brewers relievers are righties. Or maybe just start Freese but sub in Muncy as soon as his spot comes up and the Brewers have a righty in.
I think the assumption that Gio will only go through the lineup once is incorrect; if he is pitching well, and the lineup if full of lefties, I can almost guarantee he will go through the lineup at least twice.
The best move is to completely ignore the starting pitcher – especially if the other team is not committed to him. You have to be a fool to play into the other team’s strategy. Its not like the offense melts when they don’t enjoy favorable matchups – well, they do against Hader, but that isn’t exactly my point. For example, LA would be best served to hit Bellinger 7/8th all the time if they insist on having him out there at all – which they shouldn’t do if he is going to bumble around in CF. No reason to hit him in the heart of the order with a RHP. Freese should never play, regardless of matchup. Righties are not generally as bad against righties as lefties are against lefties – I don’t know if data supports it, but would think it does. That is why the term LOOGY is so common. Some lefties are helpless v same-sided pitching… righties, not so much.
Freese of the 140 wRC+ against lefties this year and 134 career most definitely should be in the lineup versus lefties. That’s pretty easy to see. Bellinger is mediocre in center, but not that far below average. His extremely valuable bat more than makes up for his defense.
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This is a really smart article. That said, the Dodgers used to be much more vulnerable to lefties now that they have Machado and Matt Kemp rose from the dead. This was a pretty big weakness, and I never understood why they refused to address it until Seager blew out his elbow…but it’s not a weakness anymore.
As big of a move was one that not many talked about at all- David Freese. His numbers in September were just huge vs lefties.
That sounds unsustainable
True. They used to be really left-handed, but Kemp made all the difference. Sure, Machada helps a lot, but just adding one big right-handed bat solved the problem. Between Turner, Puig, Kemp and Grandal standing in the right-handed batter’s box they are not too vulnerable. Kike’s rise to offensive relevance sealed the deal and they also have Taylor – who is the guy SEA cut, but also isn’t irrelevant. It was always brutally obvious that they needed a right-handed hitting outfielder which isn’t hard to come by and Kemp fit that bill as soon as they signed him. A lot of folks like to say how improbably it is that Kemp is hitting this year, but he was exactly what they needed as well. I am not sure how many teams are better equipped to deal with a bullpen strategy than LA in terms of options.
btw, they didn’t sign matt kemp, they traded for him
Roberts could not use Forsythe, who was traded to the Twins for Dozier.
The interesting idea to me, is to run Gio through the lineup once, then if anyone gets on around Turner/Freese/Machado, you bring in Peralta, since he’s unhittable by Righties, to force Roberts to PH early. With that, I bet you could get 6 IP at least from those two, then if Roberts goes back to his bench for a Lefty, you can either throw in a token Loogy (guessing thats why they added Cedeno to the roster) or a guy like Burnes or Woodruff that have a starters pitch mix, or go to your shutdown RPs.
And if you wan to get really bold, I bet you could do that again on short rest given you’re only asking for 3-4IP from Gio.
You can’t force a pinch hitter. A lot of commenters talk about this like it is a card game like Hearthstone – no, I don’t know how to play. A fully rested MIL starter is a risky enough proposition – I don’t think you want to try to figure out how thin you can stretch them. Lots of those unhittable RP only look like that because they face nobody and ride SSS. Most turn into pumpkins sooner than later.
This was a fantastic read.
The Brewers have an Ace? Is it 2017? Is it Jimmy Nelson? Did they trade for Max Scherzer? They went with a lefty and they passed over Wade Miley which is what the Baltimore Orioles also did. Nobody has ever called Chacin an ace before, but I have always followed Joulys, so good for him – what a moment!
The interesting point post-game is that the Brewers have one advantage and it is a big one – its the bullpen… and they tore through the entire thing in game 1. I figure that LA is a huge favorite for game 2 as everyone worth anything in the pen was taxed heavily in game 1. If the Dodgers mange a split in MIL, then that is about all they can hope for, right? MIL has set themselves up for that to happen. In the end, it isn’t strategy that wins games, its the Grandals that lose them more often than not in a way that no algorithm could have ever calculated – anything can happen, but LA should be an overwhelming favorite today.
Nah. I’d bet only Hader and Gio are off limits for today. Hader’s a big piece, sure, but there are lots of good arms left
Burnes didn’t even pitch yesterday. Jeffress, Soria, Cedeno were all under 20 pitches. For a bullpen coming off a four day break post NLDS and with a day off Sunday, they are still in good shape for this afternoon.
In regard to the actual article content, I don’t think it is all that useful to look at season stats right now. Lots of players float their numbers on a magical month or two and that is long gone. There are also a lot of worse hitting types, that are particularly outmatched by playoff pitching. You know, the Bellinger types that feast on mediocrity for a few weeks, then look lost… or the Kemp types that have hit really well all year with the exception of a historic slump, which is well behind him. The real question is, how are they swinging the bat today? My point being that it is complicated! Counsell has certainly over-managed – I doubt the players like it. He will be billed a genius if it works and if they come up short it will be interesting to see if he catches any heat. I really don’t think it is a two-way street. People love a progressive narrative and are far less interested in critiquing one. I am not sure if the reality is that they will need that SP to step up. Sure, they don’t look like much but they will need to carry their weight if this is going to work….maybe LA cooperates (they haven’t so far), but I can’t imagine their luck lasting through whichever offense they play in the WS. Those starters are going to have to pitch like starters IMO. If they get really lucky, then maybe they sweep again but the longer these series drag out, the worse those arms bullpen arms will become.
I don’t think the players on the Brewers have a problem with CC. What does someone like Wade Miley have to complain about? That his career was resurrected to turn him into a decent starter by limiting his innings? That Chacin was an above average starter who put up almost 200 IP this year? Trade Acquisition Gio pitches his best this year in the time he was on the team that likely can not afford him next year?
I don’t think I have heard anything by any Brewers player that indicates they are upset by CCs managing. The team COULD manage like a big spender club and likely wouldn’t be in the playoffs. Do you think they’d rather be watching the NLCS from home?
I have a strong feeling that roberts is going to fall into the trap, pinchhiting and overmanaging like crazy and running put of hitters before he realizes what happened.
The Dodgers are doing their best to help the Brewers win on Saturday. That lineup is moronic. The only way bullpenning provides a big advantage is if the opposing decision makers are dumb enough to help it along. David Freese hitting 3rd. That should never happen under any circumstances. I have a feeling that the decisions are not made by Dave Roberts as he seemingly decided to get baseball-dumb at a pretty specific point this season. That is the only set of circumstances where you wouldn’t notice that you have the worst SS/CF combination in the game constantly hurting you and nothing even remotely resembling roles or chemistry in the lineup. I wonder if the managers responsibilities are just to handle press conferences and mid-game interviews in some organizations such as this one. The only way starting lineup strategy really provides an advantage is if the other team is baseball-dumb or shortsighted enough to buy into the idea that there is an advantage to be had. They would be best off just field their best team – I know it is a crazy idea. If you are building your lineup around Made Miley’s presence, then you are doing it wrong!
I think looking at the first 2 games- the Brewers are about 1 lefty short of really being able to beat the Dodgers. Dodgers vs LHP in 1st 2 games have been brutal- only 6-39. They are 11-29 vs RHP. And before you say the numbers vs LHP are tainted due to Hader- they were 2-11 vs him so .182 vs him, 4-28 vs other lefties .143.