Cubs Trade for Edward Cabrera and His Amazing Changeup

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This offseason has been reasonably busy in terms of actual moves, but light on rumors. One of the few exceptions has involved the Marlins’ Edward Cabrera. The Yankees’ interest in the 27-year-old right-hander has been consistent throughout the winter, but it appears they’ve been beaten to the punch.

Cabrera is indeed on the move, but he’s bound for Chicago, not New York, as Michael Cerami of Bleacher Nation reported late Wednesday morning. The Cubs get a hard-throwing starting pitcher, fresh off a 3.53 ERA in 137 2/3 innings, with three years of team control remaining. In order to entice the Marlins to part with Cabrera, Chicago gave up three position player prospects: Owen Caissie, shortstop Cristian Hernandez, and corner infielder Edgardo De Leon. The Yankees, Jon Heyman says, were “never close.”

For the second straight winter, the Marlins have dealt a talented-but-inconsistent starter in his arbitration years to an NL contender. And while I reserve the right to change my mind when we find out how good Starlyn Caba gets, early indications are that the Phillies snookered Miami in the Jesús Luzardo trade. In his first season in Philadelphia, Luzardo was sixth in starting pitcher WAR and was terrific in two playoff appearances. Caba is still a couple years from reaching the majors at all.

So why would Miami president of baseball operations Peter Bendix risk making the same mistake twice?

Two reasons. First, Cabrera has tantalizing talent, but his track record as a big league starter is nowhere near as impressive as Luzardo’s was, even coming off a rough year in 2024. Cabrera has hit the 100-inning mark just once in his career, and had struggled pretty badly with walks up until 2025. The return might not be as sparkly as Marlins fans would’ve hoped, but I think Bendix traded Cabrera at the right time.

Second, pitching is where the Marlins’ depth is. And even without Cabrera, they have plenty of it: Sandy Alcantara, Eury Pérez, Braxton Garrett, flashes of decentness from Ryan Weathers, and back-end-of-the-40-man guys like Max Meyer and Ryan Gusto. Plus a pair of terrific high-minors prospects in Thomas White and Robby Snelling, who ought to contribute in the majors this year. Miami has a better starting pitching situation than a couple teams that made the playoffs in 2025.

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Conversely, the Marlins’ position player group is dire. They have a few position players with the potential to break out in their mid-to-late 20s, but there’s a decent chance this lineup ends up being Kyle Stowers and the Eight Dwarves. What’s the best way to get some cheap pop? Trade away a cheap pitcher.

The headline prospect in this deal is Owen Caissie. You might remember Caissie as the guy who provided some pop at the bottom of the Canadian lineup during the last World Baseball Classic, or as one of the prospects the Padres gave up in the trade for Yu Darvish. If that doesn’t ring a bell, you probably don’t remember Caissie at all.

He is, however, a decent prospect, who at 23 years old is coming off a season in which he hit .286/.386/.551 in Triple-A, with 22 homers and 28 doubles in just 99 games. Caissie is a corner outfielder, and posted a platoon split of more than 250 points of OPS in Triple-A last year, but if he is a platoon bat, he’ll be playing the strong side of the platoon.

I wouldn’t bother to mention this ordinarily, but because it’s the Marlins it’s relevant: Cabrera is only projected to make $3.7 million in arbitration and is under team control through 2028. But Caissie, a rookie, will make the league minimum and stay under team control through 2031.

The other two prospects are long shots. Here’s what Eric Longenhagen has to say:

Hernandez is a mistake-prone shortstop defender who struggles with throwing accuracy. He has the range and athleticism to play the position but, at least right now at age 22, he’s far from having the technical polish. His arm stroke may need to be modified for him to throw accurately. On offense, Hernandez has always had good bat speed, and as he’s gotten older and stronger, he’s developed roughly average raw power, which is nothing to sneeze at for a potential shortstop this age. But while his hit tool improved enough last year to make him a prospect again, his feel for contact is still clunky enough (69% contact rate) to put him in a danger zone. He’s was definitely an arrow up guy in 2025, but is still a fringy prospect.

Edgardo De Leon is a hard-swinging, medium-framed 18-year-old who posted big top-end exit velocities for his age on the 2025 Complex, including a 48% hard hit rate and 107.6 EV90. The effort it requires for him to swing that hard, and some of the mechanical concessions he makes to do so, give him enormous hit-tool risk, and his contact rate was way down at 66%, a pretty scary mark for Rookie Ball. Again, this is a fringe prospect.

So for Miami, this trade hinges on Caissie, who is both big league-ready and the most talented prospect in the deal by far. Whichever team comes out ahead in the long term, Caissie is the big winner in this trade now.

The Cubs’ roster tickles me because it’s both so deep and so flat. Chicago returns only two four-win players from 2025. Both of those players — Nico Hoerner and Pete Crow-Armstrong — posted 109 wRC+ marks but had their overall value boosted by outlier fielding performances at premium positions. That depth and lack of upper-tier star power makes the Cubs highly resilient in the face of injury, and presents few weak spots (if any) to opponents.

However, it also makes it tough to find at-bats for a player like Caissie. Contrast that with the Marlins, who are on track to give significant corner outfield playing time to, like, Esteury Ruiz and Christopher Morel. Caissie, who’d be fighting for playing time in Chicago, could hit cleanup in Miami.

But the Cubs’ depth also extends to their rotation, which is peopled by Matthew Boyd, Cade Horton, Shota Imanaga, Jameson Taillon, and Colin Rea, with Javier Assad, Ben Brown, Jordan Wicks, and top pitching prospect Jaxon Wiggins available as well. And it feels like everyone’s forgotten about Justin Steele, who will return at some point this season if his recovery from Tommy John surgery goes according to plan.

That’s plenty of quality arms even without trading for Cabrera. If I had to pick a nit, it’s this: Unless Cade Horton goes berserk in his sophomore season, the Cubs’ no. 1 starter situation would be one of the weakest among National League contenders. There’s no Cristopher Sánchez or Logan Webb or Yoshinobu Yamamoto here. (And to be clear, I adore Horton, I’m just not getting ahead of myself.)

If Cabrera replicates his 2025 season exactly, he’d probably make the Cubs’ playoff rotation, but as the no. 4 starter at best. That still improves a team that gave heavy postseason innings to Rea last fall, but Cabrera isn’t going straight to the top of the pile.

At least not yet. Because even though this is a five-year major league veteran who’ll turn 28 in April, Cabrera has skills you can’t teach.

One big skill, actually — arm strength. Among pitchers who threw 100 innings in 2025, Cabrera was 10th in average fastball velocity. And the four-seamer is the least useful and effective of his five pitches.

Cabrera gets that velocity with a graceful, easy low-three-quarters delivery, which gives his arsenal a lot of side-to-side movement but not so much vertically. Four of his five pitches (everything except the curveball) had average-or-worse vertical movement, and four of his five pitches (everything except the slider), had at least 1.9 inches of horizontal movement above average.

He got whiff rates in the 40s off both of his breakers — the hard two-plane curveball and the more cutter-action upper-80s slider — but the real party piece is his changeup. He is one of just four starting pitchers — along with Kyle Hendricks, Tarik Skubal, and Merrill Kelly — to throw his changeup more than any other pitch in 2025, but none of those other guys have a changeup quite like Cabrera’s.

If you don’t want to read the next several paragraphs, just watch this and understand that this is a changeup that can get whiffs in the zone against good same-handed hitters.

I love the announcers’ reaction here: the grunt from Tommy Hutton and the inflection on “beautiful” from play-by-play man Kyle Sielaff. It’s how you’d react to an unusually tasty sip of lemonade.

Cabrera’s changeup is, simply put, unique. It averaged 94.2 mph last year, and 93.2 mph for his career. With less than three miles an hour’s worth of separation from the four-seamer, it’s barely a changeup at all. In the Statcast era, only two offspeed pitches have a higher average velocity than Cabrera’s changeup: the splinkers thrown by Jhoan Duran and Paul Skenes.

Except Cabrera’s changeup is extremely not a splitter. It doesn’t dip; it just steams in and veers right, like a mail truck going down a hill without its brakes or right rear tire. And the grip could not be less splittery.

Cabrera owns the four fastest changeups of the Statcast era, and 27 of the top 29. In his career, he’s thrown 272 changeups at 95.0 mph or more; all other pitchers put together have combined for 64. We call Cabrera’s changeup a changeup not because it resembles the other pitches that go by that name, but because of a failure in taxonomy.

And this is not a circus act; opponents hit .203 and slugged .266 off Cabrera’s change in 2025, with just one home run. Add in the two bat-repelling breaking pitches and he was in the 94th percentile for breaking ball run value and the 88th percentile for offspeed run value, according to Baseball Savant. The command issues that plagued him early in his career also started to clear up last year; he walked 8.3% percent of opponents, which isn’t remarkable on its own. But that’s down from a previous career average of 13.3% — no small feat, then.

That looks like ace stuff to me. I imagine the Cubs feel the same, which is why they wanted him. So how did Cabrera only post 2.0 WAR in 26 starts, with a 3.53 ERA that was broadly in line with his FIP and xERA?

The answer is that Cabrera’s fastball, for all its prodigious velocity, sucks. Both of them, in fact. The four-seamer blends in with the sinker, which has pretty predictable movement and runs into the changeup.

To be honest, I don’t know why Cabrera throws a fastball at all. Neither do National League hitters, presumably, though they wouldn’t want him to stop. Opponents posted wOBAs and xwOBAs over .400 against both his four-seamer and sinker in 2025. His sinker generated a .373 opponent average and .609 opponent SLG, both of which were among the 10 highest marks allowed off any pitch in the majors last year.

Presumably, the Cubs have a plan to stop the bleeding with Cabrera’s fastball. With even an average heater, he could be that top-of-rotation arm they need. But making that happen is easier said than done. The Marlins, who for all their other faults are usually pretty good at developing pitchers, haven’t been able to crack it.

What Cabrera really needs is a four-seamer with some legitimate rise to give it some separation from the sinker (if he keeps throwing it, which I wouldn’t) and changeup. But that’s hard to get from his arm slot. If he (throws a dollar in the “he should learn a cutter” swear jar) learns a cutter, does that prove redundant with, or detract from the slider? I don’t know, man, there’s a reason I’m not a pitching coach.

That kind of potential in an established big league starter, no matter how fleeting, is rare on the trade market and expensive as hell in free agency. If the Cubs managed to snag that elusive ace for Caissie and two low-minors lottery tickets, it’ll be a coup. If Cabrera remains an average pitcher with one really cool pitch, he’s still useful, and Caissie was blocked anyway. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

The Marlins shore up a position of fatal weakness by dealing from a position of depth. And they’re selling high on Cabrera, even if I wished that meant a bigger return. Every day draws us closer to the Pareto frontier.





Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago

Did the Cubs pick up an ace for a prospect they couldn’t use? Or did the Marlins get a middle-of-the-order bat for a pitcher they could afford to give up on?

I bolded the “Or” because I think it’s weird. I think it’s likely that neither of those things are true.

If I had to pick a winner in this I’d take the Cubs because I have real questions about Caissie’s hit tool. He’s only 22 but unless he has 80 grade raw that hit tool is going to be a real problem. I don’t know if the problem is a hole in his swing or if he can’t identify pitches properly. Eric seems to think the problem is a hole in his swing, but he swung a lot more in the majors than in AAA, and that doesn’t seem like a hole-in-the-swing problem. His profile looks an awful lot like Griffin Conine’s.

I don’t think Cabrera is a star at the moment, but “junkballer with a 96 MPH fastball” and “kitchen sink starter who throws strikes now, sometimes” is something you can work with. He’s unlikely to hurt you too much if he regresses a bit and he’s got some upside. And if he stays where he is he’s good enough to pitch for you once a week.

warpath
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I agree Caissie has pretty big-time risk. The path for him to become even a major league regular, let alone a middle of the order force, is narrow.

But I think the reason the Marlins couldn’t fetch a higher rated prospect (or more than one well-regarded prospect) is that Cabrera has some real durability concerns. Last year was his first major league season with over 100 IP, and it was punctuated by an IL stint near the end of it for elbow issues.

I suspect many teams viewed him as a risky bet and this depressed trade offers a bit.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

He’s 22 and Canadian, in fairness!

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago

I’m not sure how relevant being Canadian is at this point except that he’s unlikely to find a donut shop in Miami to his liking.

FrancoeursteinMember since 2025
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Cold weather guy = slower development

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  Francoeurstein

I know but he’s been in the MLB development pipeline for 4 years now. I’m not saying he should have totally caught up by now, but at some point it’s no longer super relevant because he’s been training year round for years. I think that time is around now. It’s relevant, just not much.

OkraMember since 2016
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

This, could not agree more mr trombone. People hang on to this stuff way too long. Being a cold weather guy or late switch b/t being a hitter/pitcher matters a lot at draft time, and for the first few years in the minors; but once you’ve been in professional ball for 3-4 years it should be nothing more than a fun fact.

Reminds me of how Curtis Mead got the benefit of the doubt forever because he was Australian.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

And Caissie is a one-sport guy…but my cutoff for not caring about stuff like that is ~24.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

He and Kevin Alcantara were born 4 days apart.

Their gap in reps is still massive.

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Tbf I don’t think being Canadian just goes away (well…I mean the settlers can take their deluded supremacist asses back to europe but we know these spoiled entitled babies ain’t giving up lebensraum to go back to that dumpster fire)

Edit: I get what you’re saying abt the time buuuut – since he can’t dump the Canadian nonsense – why not maybe give room for continued development? Consider that 3 of those years (20-22) were fully spent in the upper minors and ML

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

This might be the most nonsensical thing I’ve ever read here. You do not seem to be familiar with the current status of either immigration or Reconciliation in Canada.

I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that a random commenter on FG doesn’t know about the demography and political history of Canada. I probably wouldn’t either, except for personal and professional ties to Canada and a longstanding interest in both demography and political history. But if you’re planning to tell either Jonah Tong or Otto Lopez to go back to Europe, I want to be there to see what happens next.

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Canada is a settler colonial project built on the rape, theft, genocide, and ethnic cleansing of the land and aboriginal ppl…idk what Tong or Otto Lopez has to do with that but that’s what I was referring to (somewhat tongue in cheek at that, granted it is truth and hot fire)

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SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

western imperialist settler-colonial project*

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

^ Not to imply there’s good settler-colonialism

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

You read that on a website somewhere, didn’t you?

Do you have any idea what that project looked like or what the effects were? What the current relationship is between the federal government of Canada and the registered bands? Of treaty rights? Of land claims? The racial and ethnic demography of those bands?

How about the racial and ethnic demography of Canada as a whole? The relationship between that and immigration policy? Both before and after World War II?

This is some serious stuff, and while it’s not even close to enough you clearly have no idea what indigenous Canadians actually want, either individually or collectively. They have their own opinions and like a hundred years of lawsuits that show what they want. What you are spouting is absolutely not what an ally would say, if only because what you are writing literally makes no sense.

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

“you clearly have no idea what indigenous Canadians actually want,“

Uuuuh the land back, self determination, ending the ignored genocide(s) in a handful words…Also none of this changes Canada being a western imperialist settler colonial project.

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

Also also…You…You can not be under the impression the relationship the aboriginals of Turtle Island or any of these settler-colonial states (NZ, Australia, the entity occupying Palestine, Liberia come to mind immediately)
have with these things is anything but the relationship of oppressed and oppressor, colonized and colonizer, victims and thieves/rapistists/murderers…Granted there were, are, and will be collaborators always but don’t let that and neoliberal mental gymnastics cloud the obviousness of it all

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

Sir, this is a Fangraphs.

David Klein
6 months ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

And Arby’s

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

I swear I see it too but also

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

Genuinely enjoy that someone came in and downvoted these lol. The brain rot of the ‘’Merican just be like that as the yooths say, let alone a ‘Merican who just wants therr Internet to do the sperts. Its a way to prove how smert and learn-ed and worldly we err as a docile genocidal counterrevolutionary population offering deep thoughts like everyone’s either overpayz, overratedz, Actually not that good, and the local biwwionaire/life giver/god should spend money but not like that whatever the move may be

MichaelMember since 2017
6 months ago

Great writeup.

Eamus CatuliMember since 2026
6 months ago

Love this move for my Cubbies. As much as I already love getting a young player with upside, Cabrera is just a very very different pitcher from the ones the Cubs have trotted out there for the last five, maybe 10 years. Let’s see what Hottovy can do with someone with velo.

Mike ZMember since 2025
6 months ago

Thanks for the article Michael – very timely, learned a lot and and “failure in taxonomy” was well put. Horton compared well to the those NL aces noted after the All Star break and I’m surprised how poor his projections are. After this move Cubs roster is pretty set as described and $30M under the cap. If Jed saves that $, Kevin Alcantara may also end up a winner of this trade as the RH side of platoon with Busch and Ballesteros (Seiya at DH).

SenorGato
6 months ago

Cabrera has never *exactly* been my cup of tea performance wise, but I’ll say this:

– the Cubs need velo, power, and tools on both sides of the ball, esp RHP and RHH, and he brings some of that power and a ton of tools
– while he has a ton of injury risk in 2026, I still Value a TJ free rotation arm lots
– the secondaries are shapely, good variety to stay a starter too

There’s some Horton to him in that both throw hard but it’s the secondaries that stand out and the workload potential can be similar. If I had to guess which btw the two takes a leap it’s far and away Horton, heck maybe because his own change jumps, but I’m not beat up over any of the players moved* and like the roster fit overall**

*I do like Caissie alot, if still Cubs anything less than LHH Matt Holliday would be whatever the worst version of fraud is, but he isn’t a Sure Thing and this can be good for his Development. Keep in mind I liked Brad Wilkerson, fine player, alot. Glad Hernandez gets a change of scenery, dude is doing fine but the cartoonish hype in Cubslandia bored and desperate during the pandemic really made that relationship fraught. I hope he becomes Donaldson 2.0 just bc the Cubs, and sure I root for them w/e, are ruthlessly mediocre on the whole…Currently the Cubs prospect I don’t want to trade is Juan Cabada (also still a big believer in Jordan Wicks)

Bichette + Tucker…Bichette…Ketel Marte maybe…I’ll still hold out hope a TJ free SP most my speed as far as maybe being able to take a big jump (Gilbert/Gore/Dollander come to mind) shakes free sometime btw now and say TDL 2027…Still interesting things that can be done…Framber Valdez is excellent but I think the league is really going to try and make him sweat. Honestly a halfway based move would be to walk away from the sport but the virus will never allow that

kidrobot
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

Is this some kind of beat poetry? If it is, turns out I don’t like beat poetry.

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  kidrobot

Do ‘Merican sperts fans just want to exist in the 1950s? Who just has beat poetry on the tip of their tongue? I swear the only update the ‘Merican automaton has recv’d since that decade is numbers can help make payroll more efficient but otherwise exist vibe to vibe

CosmoMember since 2024
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

Half of the US wants to live in the 50s, not just sports fans. This country is really regressive.

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  Cosmo

It’s chilling but once you know you know and the possibilities widen exponentially beyond the garbage and lies and sycophancy (though ofc we should actually…ya know…do something…if this collapse is to end well for the people)

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

Also also:

Ngl threw up a little seeing BN broke the news. Cubslandia rising in an already sycophantic genocidal media scene terrifies me, that virus is like a newer strain of neoliberalism (losing is the path to winning, no one is Actually good says Data, prospects are Unproven so not worth paying but also the One Right Way and also once Proven they have Aged which also means they shouldn’t be paid, so much more garbage)…I still cringe over how that opp site’s big break was explaining the luxury tax, how it helped clear the path for two half decade rebuilds within a decade, the appalling Kris Bryant shiny big eyes thing, the endless speculation and exaggeration of contract demands and trade prices, leading the media tear down of the 2016 coredation, lots done to help the commodification of MiLB and “amateur” (oh duh the stronger NCAAa ties) players on and on….Boi do we need to revolt lol

airforce21oneMember since 2026
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

I’m trying to picture you in real life…and I’m failing

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  airforce21one

Tall, dark, handsome, well spoken, competently dressed, intense, easy to work with, high character…I’m thinking you’re either a bot (glitchy username doubling up) or some settler in Palestine on the hasbara side of the project

airforce21oneMember since 2026
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

You forget to add “living alone” to your bio

loria_estefan
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

…what

Ryan
6 months ago

return (a 45 and 2 lottery tickets) seems real real light for 3 years of a guy with a league average floor and all star ceiling making less than 4 million bucks

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  Ryan

I think it’s pretty clear the Marlins are taking the over on Caissie. By a lot.

He has hit very well in the minors. And some guys with his profile have turned out well like Joc Pederson. Others have been more like Christin Stewart. He also has some pretty striking similarities to Kyle Stowers, which turned out well for the Marlins so far.

I kind of think later-stage Joc Pederson represents a pretty reasonable best case scenario for him. Gives you 450 PAs each year against right handed pitching, which allows him to keep the K’s to a reasonable level. Some years he slugs .520, other years it’s more like .410.

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

“I think it’s pretty clear the Marlins are taking the over on Caissie. By a lot.“

Lets not crazy here*….Cabrera’s a ML SP and that’s huge, first division talent pretty much automatically, but esp in today’s league with money defining everything it’s a little more complex than that. Pederson’s been a 2-3 fWAR player at peak which hardly seems waaaaaay over what Caissie’s done thru age 22 in the pros

*Very possible I’m just willfully ignorant on the 45 thing….I’ve never cared for this shorthand – have been aware of it for decades – see it as this lazy in every way culture’s always desperate attempt to whittle life down to one number

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

Like I’d imagine the thinking is less “take da way ova on 45” and more akin to the analysis you begin. Caissie’s a giant with power who was drafted at 17 from a cold place. He enters his age 23 season having taken the majority of pro PAs in the upper minors (1500+ PAs of 2300+) where he’s been successful since age 20. He owns a .384 OBP in MiLB. He’s shown well in events when possible, already seen some ML pitching, is coming off his best upper minors season (22 in AAA). This is an excellent body of work for the age and experience that I don’t think “we’re taking the way over on 45” really captures….Like its a digestible take for the consumer but the consumer is a sycophant and clown who doesn’t want to think, if anything wants to he told, and we should not encourage “thinking” like them

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

Even I like to be summarize things sometimes.

SenorGato
6 months ago
Reply to  SenorGato

If I was the Marlins the thinking would be that this is a *relatively* good swing at finding a cheap impact ML hitter asap, added from a position of some strength (don’t forget Thomas White is on the shortest list for best SP prospect in the minors and in line to debut 2026), and the worst case includes an annual draft and IFA signing period that brings in dozens and dozens of players for pennies. There’s some similarities *to* Cabrera in how he’s pretty well built to survive and hang around, has the tools for more, but I don’t think *either* org is *counting* on Cabrera or Caissie to be more than they are

johansantana17Member since 2026
6 months ago
Reply to  Ryan

Seems likely it’s because of elevated injury risk. He had a UCL sprain which is a partial tear, on Sep 1 2025.

frankMember since 2025
6 months ago
Reply to  johansantana17

Yes, the injury risk makes Cabrera less valuable. If he was a 150 IP a year pitcher over last 3 seasons with no elbow problems in 2025, they would have had to include far more in the trade. I think it’s likely that MIA wins this trade because of health reasons, but it’s a worthy gamble.

jdbolickMember since 2024
6 months ago
Reply to  Ryan

3 years of a guy with a league average floor

Cabrera has been worth a combined 3.7 fWAR over his five professional seasons. His floor is a lot lower than the league average.

shampain
6 months ago
Reply to  jdbolick

His floor is “throws 50 innings, has TJS, gets non-tendered”.

Shalesh
6 months ago
Reply to  jdbolick

Yeah, the Orioles gave up a bit more for Shane Baz, who has had a bit more major league success than Cabrera and was an FV60 prospect. Both have 3 years of control remaining. The Marlins want a prospect who can play in the majors now, even if Caissie’s ceiling seems low. It worked for them with Stowers who I think was only rated an FV40. Seems like the Marlins should have gotten better throw-ins with Caissie but there weren’t many other bidders for Cabrera.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  Shalesh

Caissie’s not a guy with a low-ceiling: he’s a guy with massive power who might not have the hit tool to play every day.

Looks like it came down to Caissie vs. Jones…and I think the Marlins picked the right option.

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johansantana17Member since 2026
6 months ago
Reply to  Shalesh

What makes you think there weren’t many other bidders for Cabrera?

Shalesh
6 months ago
Reply to  johansantana17

That he only returned a 45 in Caissie plus 2 35’s. Longenhagen rates Spencer Jones as a 45+ though both Cool Lester and Sad trombone rate Caissie as equivalent if not better. He’s certainly more ML-ready than Jones.

I think in both the Baz and Cabrera cases, the Rays and Marlins would have been smarter to trade them at the ASB either this or even next year. If they managed to earn 1.75 fwar by the ASB, they would be on a 3-win pace. 2.5 years of a 3-win pitcher (one who makes playoff starts) is worth at least 1 top-100 guy and another in the top 175.

But the Rays love a deep farm system because they feel their prospect development can get more than expected from non-top 100 guys. The Marlins think they can get another Stowers in Caissie. I would have preferred for both teams to wait.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  Shalesh

Jones is a much better defender, but I have far more faith in Caissie hitting than a soon-to-be 25 year old Vandy kid from SoCal who just put up a .24 K/BB in AAA, to go with worse headline numbers.

Last edited 6 months ago by Cool Lester Smooth
SyndergaardengnomesMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  Ryan

Because Cabrera’s floor isn’t league average starter. It’s a guy who gives you 100 league average innings as a starter every year. Burning through your bullpen every 5 days, and neccessitating yet another starter to piggyback with him, for the 15 or so starts he doesn’t make every year.

As a Mets fan, I wouldn’t have wanted him at any reasonable cost that the Marlins wouldn’t have laughed at. It would just be yet another question mark, not someone you can depend on in the slightest. We have Kodai Senga for that, who has pitched at a significantly higher level than Cabrera has ever achieved.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago

Cabrera’s “floor” isn’t 100 average innings – he’s only reached 100 IP once!

SyndergaardengnomesMember since 2020
6 months ago

I was trying to give Cabrera the benefit of the doubt. To put it mildly, I am not a Cabrera fan. I think he’s the definition of mediocre.

NATS FanMember since 2018
6 months ago

This seems like a steal to me.

David Klein
6 months ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

In which teams direction in your opinion?

NATS FanMember since 2018
6 months ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

The cubs won big

OkraMember since 2016
6 months ago

I guess teams don’t believe Cabrera can keep his control gains and/or health because this seems like a super light return.

Cassie is just such a flawed prospect. He’s always had a borderline fatal K rate and I’m not convinced his high BB rate translates to the majors. And he’s most certainly a platoon bat. So you likely have an almost unplayable K rate corner OF platoon bat who might not even walk a lot. Maybe a poor mans Lawrence Butler? Just a lot of bust potential with not a high ceiling. Doesn’t excite me as the only real prospect for 3yrs of Cabrera.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  Okra

I mean…when Busch was Caissie’s age, he was putting up a worse line in AA than Caissie did AAA last year.

OkraMember since 2016
6 months ago

Yes, but Busch did not have the same hit tool risk as Cassie. Busch’s last two years in the minors he ran a K rate of 18-26%. And 26% is as bad as it got for him. Cassie’s K rate has been 28% each of the last two years and has always been between 28-31%. Such a low margin for error to turn into a AAAA type.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  Okra

If we’re scouting stat lines, a 23/24 year old from a top college program putting up a 26 K% across two stints in AA has every bit as much “hit tool risk” as a 21/22 year old from Canada putting up a 28 K% across two stints in AAA.

johansantana17Member since 2026
6 months ago

Are we sure Cabrera would be the Cub’s #4 at best playoff starter if he were to repeat his 2025? He had easily the best K-BB, K%, and K/9 in 2025 of any of the Cubs’ current starting 5, 3rd best ERA, 3rd best fWAR…

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  johansantana17

That whole rotation is high-variance.

Cabrera doesn’t have a huge track record of health or performance (and apparently he had elbow problems near the end of the year?).

Horton was very strong later in the year but that is a very small sample to rely on.

Steele was awesome but he’s coming off an injury.

Boyd was great for the Cubs in 2025 but his health was really bad for the three years before that.

If you made me order them I would go Steele, Horton, Boyd, Cabrera. I also wouldn’t be super shocked to see them in reverse order in September.

GoatHerderMember since 2016
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Agree, whole rotation, outside of Taillon, is high variance; both in performance and health.

Boyd was actually high variance in 2025 too. He was amazing in first half but really ran out of gas during the second half. He hasn’t pitched that many innings in a long time.

Shota is another wild card. He has ranged from being a near ace to not being trusted to start a playoff game over his two seasons with the Cubs.

MarkZMember since 2016
6 months ago

Thank you for this writeup! I assume there’s some template or thought ahead of time for this trade, but the speed at which these trade writeups are written without compromising fangraphs depth is very much appreciated.

jason shureMember since 2017
6 months ago

Did anyone take a look at Caissies minor league BABIP numbers? I don’t recall ever seeing anything so high, level after level.

frankMember since 2025
6 months ago
Reply to  jason shure

Good observation! Remarkably high, year after year …

grandbranyanMember since 2017
6 months ago
Reply to  jason shure

For his minor league career Caissie has 632 K, 296 BB, 81 HR and 21 HBP which is a 42.3 3TO% that leaves him with only 1,239 AB for his BABIP denominator over five seasons.

ballskwokMember since 2018
6 months ago
Reply to  jason shure

He’s a line drive machine and he sprays the ball around. Not sure how well that translates against MLB pitching and defense, but the results in the minors are not just a total luck thing.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  ballskwok

Yeah, “Guy who hits the ball really fucking hard has a high BABIP: News at 11.”

shampain
6 months ago

Cubs should’ve kept the prospects and signed Dustin May.

johansantana17Member since 2026
6 months ago
Reply to  shampain

Remember how the Dodgers had a relatively quiet trade deadline at a time when they were not playing nearly as well as they should’ve been, including swindling Boston in an odd sell side trade where they sent May and received James Tibbs III and Zach Ehrhard, then started playing better without him and won the World Series?

justahikerMember since 2021
6 months ago

If it’s true that the Yankees were “never close,” that might either explain why Miami couldn’t get more.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  justahiker

The obvious parallel prospect to Owen Caissie is Spencer Jones.

There are others out there as well like Xavier Isaac and Lazaro Montes, although they’re not as far along (and Isaac is a first baseman, and recovering from literal brain surgery). Also their teams probably weren’t in on Cabrera.

Of the other teams reported to be in on him, the Giants have similar prospects with Eldridge and Dakota Jordan but Eldridge is a better prospect than Caissie or Jones and Jordan is definitely below them (still in A-ball too). The Mets have Ryan Clifford and Mark Vientos, although Clifford doesn’t have the same raw power and Vientos and only has one more year of team control than Cabrera.

I think if the universe of guys that the Marlins were looking at is Caissie, Clifford, Vientos, Jones, and Jordan I am taking them in that roughly that order. The big questions are how you weigh Jones’s team control and defensive value versus Vientos’s prior MLB success, and how you weigh Caissie’s raw power versus Clifford’s slightly less terrifying strikeout rates.

motleycrue84Member since 2024
6 months ago

Haven’t seen anything to dissuade me from thinking Cassie is Joey Weimer 2.0

ballskwokMember since 2018
6 months ago
Reply to  motleycrue84

Biggest data point is that Caissie was the same age last year as Weimer was when he made his pro debut.

AdvantageSchneiderMember since 2018
6 months ago
Reply to  motleycrue84

I assume Cassie is not trying to do some form of the hokey-pokey when he hits that Weimer was.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
6 months ago

You might remember Caissie as the guy who provided some pop at the bottom of the Canadian lineup during the last World Baseball Classic, or as one of the prospects the Padres gave up in the trade for Yu Darvish. If that doesn’t ring a bell, you probably don’t remember Caissie at all.

This does not jibe with my experience as a reader of Fangraphs, a website where a lot of people express opinions about Owen Caissie.

johansantana17Member since 2026
6 months ago

I agree. I think the average Fangraphs reader was well aware of Owen Caissie before this trade.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  johansantana17

I think the average FanGraphs *commenter* was but that’s not the same thing.

ironfireman
6 months ago

As a Cubs fan I like Caissie but a corner outfielder who isn’t a plus defender/runner with a 28% k-rate in his second go at AAA doesn’t feel like a big price tag. I’d be surprised if he is worth 5+ WAR for his career.

GoatHerderMember since 2016
6 months ago

Regarding the returns for Lazardo vs Cabrera. Recall there being rumors the Cubs had a deal in place for Lazardo last off season but he didn’t pass the medicals. Not sure if that claim was ever verified but would explain the disparity in prospect capital Marlins received.

mattMember since 2023
6 months ago

Personally think both assets are overrated. Caissie can’t hit spin and Cabrera has 0 good fastballs, both the sinker/4 seamer are terrible.

Joe23
6 months ago

I’m admittedly not very familiar with Cabrera as a Cubs fan, but he feels like a perfect addition to this staff. The Cubs are overstocked with lefties and they have a lot of guys who like to pitch to (bad) contact instead of swing and miss. Plus, for whatever reason the Ricketts’ want to provide today, they’re unwilling to spend lots of money and Cabrera is cheaper than a free agent for the next three years.

Caissie has potential and shouldn’t be overlooked, but it’s a lot easier to find a K-prone RF than it is a potential FOR pitcher. And as many have said, if Cabrera was a surer thing, the return would have been a lot more. It’s really difficult to know what Hernandez and DeLeon will be. Given Miami’s history of (not) developing hitters, I don’t have high confidence.

I love the gamble the Cubs are taking. Cabrera’s upside is enormous and fills a position of critical need for the Cubs. And because he’s so cheap, I think this adds to the possibility of a short-term reunion with Tucker. Probably not likely, but adding Cabrera instead of a free agent pitcher at least keeps the door cracked open.

CosmoMember since 2024
6 months ago
Reply to  Joe23

I’d take Belli back for half the price.

Joe23
6 months ago
Reply to  Cosmo

I’d rather have Tucker but I understand your point. I was thinking a 2/$70M contract with opt-outs for Tucker to reestablish his value. Who says no?

johansantana17Member since 2026
6 months ago
Reply to  Joe23

Tucker does. He can get 4/$180 with opt outs from the Mets or Dodgers. Go down to two years and the Dodgers would probably do $100m.

Lunch AngleMember since 2016
6 months ago

What if Cabrera just.. didn’t throw fastballs? Up the changeups to 45%, divide the rest between sliders and curves, and reserve like 5% for surprise four-seamers. Wouldn’t that be fun?

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  Lunch Angle

Tommy Kahnle as a starter!

dtpollittMember since 2016
6 months ago

BCB reunion up in here.

SenorGato
6 months ago

Came back thinking Cubs rotation and that I want to make like a smert Jordan Wicks post. That’s not going to happen but the 2025 version has me preeeeeeettty interested. The key development may be the slider picking up velo (topping out 87-88) and shape and if he holds some velo – can sit 93-94 – things open up (same for Shota at like 92-93)….Cutter was topping out at 91…The boldest prediction I can make is he’ll start playoff games and “challenge” Horton as the staff’s young-er ace…I don’t expect it ofc but thats holding out hope the season’s put on pause bc the people are in the streets melting the ice

NATS FanMember since 2018
6 months ago

I won’t be very surprised if Cabrera is considered an ace in 12 months. I suspect he is a number 2 starter. But I might be selling low. Nonetheless, A guy you want in the postseason pitching a lot. Cassie is fine, but not in Miami. That park will kill his value.