David Stearns on His Vision for Building the Brewers

The Milwaukee Brewers have had nine winning seasons during David Stearns’ lifetime. Over that span, they’ve won 90 or more games just four times. Their last World Series appearance was in 1982, three years before the 30-year-old Harvard graduate was born. He has his work cut out for him.

Stearns stepped into one of baseball’s most challenging jobs when he took over as Milwaukee’s general manager at season’s end. The Brewers play in MLB’s smallest market, and they compete in its toughest division. On the heels of a competitive 2014 campaign, they went into this past season with high hopes, only to limp to the finish line with a record of 68-94.

A native of New York, Stearns spent the past the three seasons in Houston, where he was the Astros’ assistant general manager.

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Stearns on his influences: “I think I bring a perspective from all of the different teams I’ve worked for. I’ve had the benefit of working for a number of different leaders, a number of different general managers. That started with Dave Littlefield when I was an intern in Pittsburgh and then Omar Minaya with the Mets. I spent time in the commissioner’s office working for Dan Halem and a number of very smart people. From there I went to Cleveland and worked for Mark Shapiro, Chris Antonetti and Mike Chernoff. And lastly, in Houston I worked for Jeff Luhnow.

“Those leaders all have different skill sets and diverse styles. They stretch from very skilled evaluators, in Dave Littlefield and Omar Minaya, to those with backgrounds more similar to my own, in Chris, Mike, and Jeff. They have all been very influential in shaping how I view the game and how I view this job.

“I’m incredibly passionate about baseball. Ultimately, that’s why I wanted to work in the industry. A lot has been made about my age and an analytical background, but what sparked all of this was my desire and love of the game.”

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On autonomy and interviewing for the job: “Throughout the interview process, I spent a great deal of time with Mark Attanasio, our principle owner. I also spent time with Eric Siegel, an advisory board member, and Rick Schlesinger, our COO. Jed Hughes was the representative from Korn-Ferry, the headhunting firm the Brewers used throughout the process. Those four people comprised the search committee.

“Regarding autonomy, Mark made it clear throughout the interview process that he was going to trust whoever he hired to make the baseball decisions. As a general manager, that’s all you can ask for. During the interview process, I presented my vision of where I thought the Brewers should head, and,fortunately, he seemed to agree with it.”

On building out the staff: “We’ve hired an assistant general manager, Matt Arnold. Matt spent a long time with the Rays and he has a history with a couple of organizations. He brings a wealth of experience that has already helped me, and will continue to help me going forward.

“Beyond that, we’re looking supplement our existing group with the best people we possibly can. I think we have some really talented people currently in our front office. We’re going to look to add to that mix, both on the analytics side and on the scouting side. You can never have enough talented people.

“The entire organization has been extremely supportive. They understand how important human capital and human resources are. If Matt and I see an opportunity to add the right people, I’m very confident that Mark and the rest of the organization will support us with that.”

On the information beast: “I really don’t see a dichotomy between the analytics and scouting departments. I see them both as information sources where we need the absolute best of both. We’re going to build out both until we feel we have the best information we can possibly acquire. We’re always going to want more. That’s the nature of the beast. In this industry, the game is, ‘What is the next frontier in baseball and where can we get the next competitive advantage?’”

On working with manager Craig Counsell: “I didn’t talk to Craig before I was hired, but we began building our relationship right after I was. We’ve talked pretty much every day since. I think we’re off to a pretty strong start to building a solid partnership between the two of us.

“I think what Craig and I share is a desire to be as good as we can possibly be, with an open-mindedness to information, and an ability to express our thoughts openly and honestly. As long as we can maintain those core tenets of a relationship, we’re going to do very well together.

“As a front office, it’s our job to provide Craig with all the information we can, in an accessible format, so that he can make the most-informed decisions during the course of a game. But at the end of the day, they’re Craig’s decisions to make. Craig is a smart guy. He’s very open to information, so I’m confident that he’ll use the information available to him when it makes sense for him to do so.”

On building a roster: “We’re in a situation where we’re looking to get as much young talent as we possibly can. It’s no secret that in a market like ours, in order to build this for a sustainable run, we have to acquire and retain the best young talent we can. To the extent that means making changes to our current roster, we have to be open to that. That said, there’s no set mandate to trade any particular player, or a set desire to trade a particular player.

“My approach is to try to acquire the best talent you can, as efficiently as you can. You’d love to acquire guys who can hit for power and average, never strike out, get on base a lot, and be plus defenders. But there are only a handful of guys like that in all of baseball, and they’re not readily available on the open market. Every player you’re looking at has some semblance of a flaw.

“We don’t necessarily think about roster construction by saying ‘We want to be a defensive-oriented club or we want to be a power-oriented club.’ Frankly, whatever skill sets we can compile to create a team that will win consistently, I’ll be happy with that. If there’s one thing this season taught us, with the diverse styles of play of this year’s playoff teams, it’s that there is no one way to build a roster.

“Miller Park has generally favored hitters. The ball flies very well here, particularly to the gaps. Do we think about that? Sure, it’s part of the discussion, but it’s not a driving variable in our decision-making process.”

On time frames and the National League Central: “We’re in a really good division with some really well run teams. That’s become obvious over the last few years. This is a division that is going to be very strong for a long time. Our goal is to make it even stronger. The teams are at the top probably aren’t going anywhere. We can’t sit around and wait for them to come back to us. We need to go and join them.

“We’re not putting any time frame on how long that will take us because, frankly, anything we throw out there would just be an educated guess. We know we have a strategy of acquiring young talent that can help sustain competitiveness for a long time. We know we need a critical mass of that talent at the big league level to be competitive in our division. Our aim is to get there as soon as we can. We’re not going to put any limits on any team going into a season.”

On trading Francisco Rodriguez for Javier Betancourt: “We see Betancourt as an athletic middle infielder with solid contact skills and an advanced feel for hitting. He has performed throughout his early minor league career while being relatively young for his level of play. We heard great things about how he goes about his business and how he plays the game. We’re excited to bring him into the organization. K-Rod had a great run with the Brewers in multiple phases, but we look at our bullpen as an area of strength and it’s always nice to deal from an area where you think you may have a surplus.”

On acquiring Jonathan Villar: “One of the things that drew us to Jonathan was his positional versatility. He can play all over the field and that gives us a lot of flexibility as we go through the remainder of the offseason. He’s a 24-year-old versatile middle infielder who has already demonstrated a pretty good understanding of the strike zone. Because he got to the major leagues so early, it’s easy to forget how young he is. We think there’s a chance there is still some growth to come.”





David Laurila grew up in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and now writes about baseball from his home in Cambridge, Mass. He authored the Prospectus Q&A series at Baseball Prospectus from December 2006-May 2011 before being claimed off waivers by FanGraphs. He can be followed on Twitter @DavidLaurilaQA.

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Palm Beach Mansion
10 years ago

The smallest market in MLB is Cincinnati

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Anon
10 years ago

Market size isn’t determined by TV viewers. TV viewership generally follows market size and team success. Reds have little recent success while the Brewers had success last year.

BenH
10 years ago
Reply to  Anon

“while the Brewers had success last year.”

Lolwut?

munchtime
10 years ago
Reply to  BenH

“last year”, as in 2014. The Brewers finished with 82 wins, but were leading the division until the last month of the season.

Matt P
10 years ago

Cincy is tied for 28th with Pittsburgh according to MLB. Milwaukee is the smallest market in MLB.

Yehuda
10 years ago

I would rather watch the better game than a local sports team.

Bronson
10 years ago

What are the mechanics that cause a smart person to work for his 5th team by age 30? I’d think those teams would seek to maintain a relationship via compensation or promotion if Stearns is indeed a smart GM-worthy baseball mind. Is there a possibility that he was not viewed in that favorable of a light and he is using his Harvard degree and name-dropping the orgs and execs he has worked for to net him the least desirable GM job in baseball. Congrats to him. Zero chance he wins an NL central title in the next 7 years.

EWK
10 years ago
Reply to  Bronson

“What are the mechanics that cause a smart person to work for his 5th team by age 30?”

Well, moving up the ladder, and taking successive higher ranking positions would be one explanation now, wouldn’t it? Your postulation that he may be a gregarious, unfavorably viewed name dropper is certainly *possible*, but given that none of the readily available information about him seems to back this up, I’d say your postulation is baseless speculation at best.

Bronson
10 years ago
Reply to  EWK

Finding and retaining smart people is very difficult. Smart people make themselves indispensable. Those people aren’t permitted (via compensation or promotion) to walk out the door this often.

EWK
10 years ago
Reply to  Bronson

On one hand, you mention how difficult it is to retain smart and talented individuals, but wouldn’t Stearns taking a job-hopping trajectory kind of reinforce that? Your inference that employers simply *don’t* allow this to happen seems rather narrow – it implies that the decision to retain or to allow to walk is one that prioritizes retention at all costs.

Sure, he may be aggressive in seeking out higher positions with different organizations, may not value loyalty to a given organization very highly, and that may rub you the wrong way, but given that I yet to see any indication that Stearns has left any legacy of poor impressions on previous employers, I’m calling the notion that Stearns is regarded poorly to be wild speculation.

Bobby Bonilla's Accountant
10 years ago
Reply to  Bronson

He no doubt received a promotion at each step along the way. That’s the way it works hiring guys from other teams in baseball; you have to give them a promotion. He worked for five different teams because he’s managed to, on average, get a promotion every two years.

Barnard
10 years ago
Reply to  Bronson

Seems more likely to me that he was aggressive in networking and positioning himself to get jobs higher up the front office ladder. As I’ve learned in life, sometimes you have to switch companies to continue your upward mobility. Companies dont promote people just because they’re good at their job; if anything, they going to try to keep you in the same position because you’re good at your job.

Josh
10 years ago
Reply to  Barnard

It seems that in less than an hour’s time, you have circumnavigated the full spectrum of this argument. Your first post asserted that Stearns is destined to be an unsuccessful, losing GM because he’s jumped from job to job, which is apparently a sign of incompetence. Your last post provides deep justification for Stearns’ career path and manages to answer the question you originally posed while simultaneously coming across as condescending. Nice.

Barnard
10 years ago
Reply to  Josh

You’re replying to the wrong person

Bronson
10 years ago
Reply to  Josh

I think you are mistaking Barnard for Bronson. We shall see re: Stearns.

EWK
10 years ago
Reply to  Josh

Yeah, I think you confused two people making diametrically opposed arguments.

Emcee Peepants
10 years ago
Reply to  Bronson

By the tone of your comment, this doesn’t seem like a “problem” you will ever have to worry about encountering in your own life.

Cool Story
10 years ago
Reply to  Emcee Peepants

Non sequitur.

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10 years ago
Reply to  Cool Story

The following is a statement I, with the name, Cool Story, am making in regards to your comment, henceforth “you” designating you, with the name, Emcee Peepants: Your comment was not, to use in conjunction with a Latin phrase, sequitur.

Nathan
10 years ago

Where does Lucroy get traded to?

Paul
10 years ago
Reply to  Nathan

Astros for Jason Castro, Derek Fisher, and JD Davis.

Bill
10 years ago

He’s got his work cut out for him, but there are some pieces. I don’t think he needs to trade braun, that contract is pretty reasonable especially when you see what Heyward and even Cespedes will get this winter. Garza has to go, but with 2/$24 left he should be able to unload that given the amount of teams looking for pitching. Maybe he has to throw Lind into that deal as well (1/$8). jason Rogers should be starting, minus well see what you got. Lucroy isn’t going anywhere unless they get bowled over, very affordable contract with a 17′ option. Maybe Khris Davis goes if they don’t think Domingo is a CF, but hey nice to have that OF. Bullpen isn’t terrible, could use depth. SP they really only have Nelson and Peralta for the 3-4-5 spots then a bunch of ‘blah’ and no true ace. With Arcia on the way, they really need SP depth in the minors but it’s not a terrible team.

MG
10 years ago

Already got the art of publicly speaking like a senior executive to media down pat by saying a lot with saying almost anything of substance of all & not ruffling any feathers.

BipMember since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  MG

Still an improvement over Coppolella’s interview, in which he said some things for which the most charitable explanation is “well, he doesn’t actually believe that, right?”

Ryan
10 years ago

“Because he got to the major leagues so early, it’s easy to forget how young he is. We think there’s a chance there is still some growth to come.”

I appreciate this quote. It made me think of another Astros castoff, Jimmy Paredes. The guy was just simply brutal in his MLB trials while showing a broad set of averageish skills in AAA to go with positional versatility (although less defensive value to be sure). Guys flop like this in trials all the time, and it’s easy to write off a guy who in most orgs is probably in the middle of a season split between AA and AAA.

Lo and behold… seems like his baseline performance level changed just before his age 25 and 26 seasons. He had that huge first couple months for Baltimore this year before falling back to Earth. Long term building block, or 3+ WAR player? Definitely not, but turning basically nothing into a potential trade asset, or some respectable enough filler for the rebuild years, is exactly what organizations in these positions have to be able to do on a regular basis.