Decades in the Making, the Dodgers-Padres Rivalry Has Arrived

This picture of Mookie Betts looks like something out of a postseason highlight reel. It looks, in fact, very much like a picture of Mookie Betts from last October, when he made a number of game- and series-saving catches en route to the Dodgers’ World Series championship. It isn’t: it’s from April 17, last weekend, when the Padres hosted the Dodgers for a three-game set. The catch Betts was celebrating did, indeed, save the game — but it wasn’t a game that meant the difference between living and dying. It was a game that meant the difference between being 11-2 or 10-3.
Even though it might not have been life-or-death, the first meeting between the Dodgers and Padres since they squared off in the NLDS last year was a wild ride. At no point over the three games did either team have more than a two-run lead during regulation play. There were critical errors and rapidly-changing leads. There were blown saves. There were extra innings and cleared benches. When the smoke cleared and the dust settled, the Dodgers had taken two of three — but none of the three games had felt like a foregone conclusion. Game 1 saw the teams trade runs before the Padres tied it late, forcing extras; it was won in the 12th, with Joe Musgrove in left, Jake Cronenworth on the mound, and David Price at the plate. Game 2 was a pitchers’ duel, with Clayton Kershaw and Yu Darvish exchanging zeroes. The deciding run was a bases-loaded walk with two out — drawn by Kershaw himself. In the ninth, the Padres had the tying runs on second and third before Betts came through with a diving catch. And in Game 3, the Dodgers got an early lead off Blake Snell only for the Padres to chip away at their bullpen, eventually scoring three definitive runs in the bottom of the eighth to put the game away.
It was, in short, must-watch baseball — a worthy followup to the twists and turns of the NLDS. Game 2 of that series, in particular, when Cody Bellinger robbed Fernando Tatis Jr. of a would-be go-ahead homer and the Padres loaded the bases against Joe Kelly in the ninth, seems like a direct precursor to what we saw last week. But it’s not just that recent postseason meeting that has contributed to the burgeoning rivalry. There’s been a long history leading up to this point.
The first game that the Dodgers and the Padres ever played against each other was at Dodger Stadium on April 15, 1969. In the beginning, it seemed like it could be a pitchers’ duel. With Johnny Podres on the mound for the Padres, facing his old team in what would be his final season in the majors, and Claude Osteen for the Dodgers, the first four innings passed so quickly and uneventfully that you could have blinked and missed them.
But then the bottom of the fifth hit, and things fell apart. A groundout gave way to a walk, three consecutive singles, and yet another walk, before Andy Kosco hit a grand slam that put the Dodgers ahead 6-0. From there, while Osteen limited the Padres to only three hits, the Dodger lineup piled eight more runs on in front of their home crowd. The final score was 14-0, the game completed in an astonishingly brisk two hours and 13 minutes. “Dodgers ruin Padres,” proclaimed one headline. “Dodgers smash Padres,” declared another.
It was the Padres’ fourth consecutive loss after beginning their existence with a sweep of the Houston Astros before getting swept by the San Francisco Giants. The Dodgers felt no pity for their predicament. The next day, they piled another nine runs on the Padres, who were only able to muster up a lone run in response.
The Padres would go on to finish their inaugural season with a 52-110, with a Pythagorean record that was somehow even worse than that. Nearly a decade would pass before they had a winning season; it would take several years after that before they would string together consecutive years at or above .500. During the years of Tony Gwynn’s incredible peak, they made the postseason for the first time, advancing all the way to the World Series before losing to the Detroit Tigers. Another 11 seasons passed before their next postseason appearance, when they were swept out of the NLDS by the Cardinals; when they once again advanced to the World Series, they were, again, swept, this time by the Yankees. Two appearances in the NLDS in the 2000s both ended quickly.
Meanwhile, while the Padres struggled to achieve mediocrity in the 70s, the Dodgers appeared in the World Series three times. They won a title in 1981, and then another in 1988, with Kirk Gibson — who, with the Tigers, played a part in defeating the first Padres team to make it to the postseason — becoming a figure of legend. And during the long Padres postseason drought of the 2010s, the Dodgers — the ones we know now — became one of the great powerhouse teams in all of baseball history. The Dodgers and the Padres have never been true rivals, mostly because the gap between the franchises seemed too vast. There was one of baseball’s classic teams, with a century of history in the country’s two most important cities, with a huge fanbase and incredible resources; and there, a few hours south, their expansion counterparts, the humble mendicants searching for sustained success. The Dodgers have dominated the Padres in their regular-season meetings.
It’s that distance — two teams seemingly on trajectories as different as could be — that makes the collision currently happening so thrilling. The seeds that were planted over five decades of Dodger dominance are finally taking root. They are geographically close enough to create the frenzied crowd energy of games between nearby rivals, the uniquely personal nature of inter-city grievances. And now that their trajectories have aligned, with franchise players signed to long-term deals, every clash is another line of verse in the growing epic. One can envision these teams meeting again and again — in three years, or five. What will have changed, then? Who will be ascending? Who will have the upper hand?
Right now, that team is clearly still the Dodgers. They are 14-4; even with some questionable defense and a lack of hitting of their last few games, they managed a winning road trip against the Padres and the Mariners. The Padres, after dropping their series are back at .500; Chris Paddack is still not good, Tatis still not fully himself, and Dinelson Lamet is injured. Really, the Dodgers will always have the upper hand: they simply have the resources to be a perpetual juggernaut. But within that assurance of contention is enough uncertainty for a challenger to rise — every baseball dynasty has eventually fallen — and within that uncertainty lies some great baseball to come.
RJ is the dilettante-in-residence at FanGraphs. Previous work can be found at Baseball Prospectus, VICE Sports, and The Hardball Times.
this looks like it’s shaping up to be the yankees red sox rivalry of the early 00s
As a lifelong Dodgers fan, I don’t see a rivalry (nor do most of my Dodgers-fan friends). Once the Padres win something meaningful at the expense of the Dodgers, or actually show they’re not a flash-in-the-pan (cf. Chicago Cubs), then maybe there’ll be a rivalry.
That’s not to say last weekend’s games weren’t exciting; they were. And I expect this weekend’s games will be the same. But I believe most of this “rivalry” is media-generated.
Fun fact: The Padres are further out from first place than all but 2 other teams in baseball – the DBacks and Rockies.
I generally agree though I think it’s more about showing that they can be a threat to the Dodgers. That hasn’t happened yet, not with the Dodgers dominating them in the Division Series last year. And they’re not even in 2nd place in the West this year.
Dodgers/Padres is one of those classic one-sided rivalries. Dodger fans generally are glad to beat a challenger and secure their postseason advantage, but most of the animosity is from the other side, where the Padres have been a punching bag for years. I’m a pretty partisan Dodger fan, and generally find satisfaction in the (non-injury) failures of all 4 divisional opponents, but I don’t feel remotely about the Padres like I do the Giants, or for that matter the Cardinals. They’ve got the talent to be competition, but they haven’t really done it yet. It’s nice to beat them (and to play regular season games where the outcome seems remotely relevant, which the Dodgers really haven’t done since 2018), but that’s about it.
If they get healthy and start playing together and, well, actually win a series or two or manage to keep up, it might feel differently, but the situation’s such that this year’s Padres might win 100 games and lose their division by double-digit games, and if that’s the case the August/September matchups aren’t going to be all that interesting (October will be another matter, of course).
As a lifelong Dodger fan I do see the Padres as our big rival right now. Starting late in the 2020 season with Trent Grisham’s HR off Kershaw, a true rivalry was born.
You can see by the player reactions on both sides that this is a rivalry. Particularly with a couple of the players who are baseball youngest and brightest stars. They are ultra competitive and want to win and beat the other team.
It’s immaterial how the media or a “lifelong Dodgers fan” views it. Mookie Betts and Trevor Bauer and Fernado Tatis and Manny Mchado want to beat the best out there. And the Dodgers and Padres are two of the very best today. It’s not about Johnny Podres or Steve Garvey. It’s about beating the best. Each other. Voila – a rivalry.
It takes more than “the players care” to make something a rivalry. I expect the players to care any time two likely playoff teams face off in a game that has any sort of consequence. A rivalry requires more than that, either franchise (Dodgers/Giants) or player group (say, Tor/Tex a few years ago) history, generally.
“Humble Mendicants” to describe the duo of Tatis Jr. and Machado is pure baseball journalism gold.
I too wish to applaud the use of “mendicant” to describe the Padres! Now can someone figure out how to make use of a good Darvish-Dervish pun?
I think it’s a rivalry to the extent that top teams always have a target on their backs, and everyone else gives their best shot. The Diamondbacks weren’t billed as the next great rival of the Dodgers when they were more competitive in recent years. Same for the Rockies when they won a couple wild cards. The Dodgers always have a noticable crowd of fans in San Diego, Denver, and Phoenix, but no mobs of Padre, Rockies, or D-Backs faithful swarm Dodger stadium.
Animosity has definitely developed between some of these teams (Dodgers pool party in AZ, last year’s division series). The Giants were arguably a greater dynasty than the Dodgers winning 3 of 5 World Series 2010-14, (it pains me to say this as a Dodger fan, but titles are what matter). The long standing, century old battle between Blue and Orange sets a very high bar for what could be considered a rivalry.
As a fan analogy…
Dodgers = Michigan
Giants = Ohio State
Padres = Michigan State
Padre fans hate the Dodgers. Dodger fans are aware of this hatred, but have very little non-Giants hatred to spare.
I mean there is spare beyond the giants, but it’s generally targetted to other franchises with whom there’s a longer history of, uhm, competitiveness, like the Cardinals or the Braves. The Padres have beaten the Dodgers at anything basically never, and especially not recently, so the ill-will is pretty one-sided, and the Dodger fan perspective is much more ‘eh, let’s step on them before they believe in themselves too much’.
I love the rivalry. The only downer is that every year one of them (probably SDP most years) have to play the coin toss game. Which would rob us of near certain yearly playoff matchups.
I love that the Padres had a pitcher named Johnny Podres.