Don’t Mistake Passivity for Judgment

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Last week, I wrote about the careers of the two former college baseball players who have been featured on this season of Love Is Blind, and don’t worry, I’m not going to follow up with a detailed breakdown of their performance on the episodes released this past weekend. (Though if anyone wants the short version: It’s been pretty dire. Ben is getting flamed on TikTok so bad his fiancée is thinking about pulling the plug, while Dave… I don’t know what you’re doing, man. Get it together. You’re in your mid-30s. You should be able to have a frank, productive conversation with your partner.)

I bring all this up because it’s been hard to shake something I mentioned in Friday’s article: Ben Mezzenga’s astonishingly high incidence of taking strike three. In his best years, only about half of his strikeouts came swinging. A typical big league hitter strikes out three times swinging for every time he strikes out looking. Last year, José Ramírez ran a ratio north of 15-to-1, the highest mark in baseball. Cavan Biggio was the only hitter who had 50 or more strikeouts with more than half of them coming with the bat on his shoulder.

For those of you who came here because you think FanGraphs is now a reality TV message board (it isn’t so far, but I’m working on it): Ramírez is one of the best hitters — indeed, best all-around players — in baseball. Last season, he hit .279/.335/.537 with 39 home runs and 39 doubles. That was good enough to land him fifth in AL MVP voting; in nine full major league seasons, he’s finished in the top five in the AL MVP race six times, and in the top 10 eight times.

In the interest of not writing anything indecorous, I’ll sum up Biggio’s game by saying he’s not as good a hitter as Ramírez. Looking at those two outliers, you’d think that when your Little League coach was yelling at you to get the bat off your shoulder with two strikes, they weren’t just trying to move the game along; they were actually giving good advice.

That flies in the face of sabermetric wisdom from a generation ago, when we glorified hitters who drew walks and swung their bats sparingly. As data collection and research techniques have improved, we’ve come to understand that aggressive hitters can be devastatingly effective, especially if they understand what they’re swinging at. Nowadays, hitters like Mezzenga might be described more accurately as passive, rather than disciplined or selective.

Let’s look at the top and bottom 10 in swinging strikeout rate to see if that pejorative description reflects results.

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The Lookers and the Swingers
Top 10 Swinging Strikeout% BB% K% HardHit% AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+
José Ramírez 93.9 7.9% 12.0% 39.6% .279 .335 .537 .364 141
Paul DeJong 93.6 4.8% 32.4% 41.2% .227 .276 .427 .302 95
Edmundo Sosa 92.4 4.7% 24.1% 40.6% .257 .313 .422 .318 103
Hunter Goodman 92.2 3.6% 28.6% 39.6% .190 .228 .417 .274 61
Ryan Mountcastle 92.1 5.3% 22.5% 45.2% .271 .308 .425 .316 108
Harold Ramírez 92.0 2.0% 20.3% 33.9% .261 .280 .324 .265 72
Andrés Giménez 91.8 4.1% 15.3% 28.5% .252 .298 .340 .281 83
Michael Harris II 91.5 4.9% 20.0% 47.0% .264 .304 .418 .312 99
Bryan De La Cruz 91.2 4.7% 27.3% 41.0% .233 .271 .384 .283 77
Grant McCray 91.1 4.6% 43.1% 44.1% .202 .238 .379 .266 71
Bottom 10 Swinging Strikeout% BB% K% HardHit% AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+
Cavan Biggio 47.2 10.7% 32.1% 16.7% .197 .314 .303 .285 84
Sal Frelick 51.9 7.4% 14.9% 19.4% .259 .320 .335 .292 86
Nolan Schanuel 52.4 11.2% 17.0% 25.3% .250 .343 .362 .315 104
Jesse Winker 52.8 12.4% 20.9% 36.8% .253 .360 .405 .338 118
Robbie Grossman 53.4 13.9% 23.7% 27.6% .212 .322 .293 .283 82
Edouard Julien 53.9 11.0% 33.9% 37.8% .199 .292 .323 .278 80
Geraldo Perdomo 55.2 9.3% 14.9% 25.8% .273 .344 .374 .317 101
Ke’Bryan Hayes 57.3 5.8% 18.9% 42.9% .233 .283 .290 .256 59
Garrett Mitchell 57.7 11.2% 31.7% 37.0% .255 .342 .469 .351 126
Joey Bart 60.3 7.8% 25.9% 38.7% .265 .337 .462 .347 121

Yeah, not really. In fact, José Ramírez is the only hitter out of these 20 who I’d call exceptionally good. You’ve got a couple other decent hitters, including a couple who bump up against All-Star level when they’re on, but no other superstars.

Here’s how all 300-odd hitters with 50 or more strikeouts fared, when graphing swinging strikeout rate vs. wOBA.

A resounding victory for the null hypothesis. There is basically no correlation between swinging strikeout rate and wOBA. The mean and median swinging strikeout rate are 76.4% and 76.9%, respectively. Out of the 20 players with the best wOBAs on the list, 15 have a swinging strikeout rate within one standard deviation of the mean. Kyle Tucker (63.0%) and Carlos Correa (63.9%) came in low; Bryce Harper (85.5%), Bobby Witt Jr. (85.8%), and Kerry Carpenter (86.7%) came in high.

And in case the graph didn’t convince you, I ran a couple statistical significance checks for swinging strikeout rate and wOBA, and my computer started laughing at me. There’s more than one way to hit, it turns out. In fact, the same is basically true of overall strikeout rate. Big league pitchers know what they’re doing, and they’re gonna getcha, whether you swing with two strikes or not.

Out of the stats I checked, only two showed even the faintest flicker of statistical significance. Overall strikeout rate is almost completely unaffected by the manner of those punchouts, but walk rate goes down as swinging strikeout rate goes up.

Which is obvious. The less you swing with two strikes — the less you swing in any count, for that matter — the more you’re going to walk. All sorts of other bad stuff might happen if you don’t swing, sure, but you’re going to walk more.

One way to get around not walking so much is to hit the ball hard. Here’s swinging strikeout rate graphed against HardHit%.

The statistical correlation here is tenuous at best. But hitters who make hard contact are very slightly more likely to strike out swinging.

Swinging Strikeout Rate vs. HardHit%
Swinging Strikeout%
HardHit% <68.3 68.3-76.4 76.4-84.4 >84.4 Total
>46.6 3 22 23 9 57
38.9-46.6 20 31 57 21 129
31.2-38.9 15 42 50 13 120
<31.2 13 21 18 5 57
Total 51 116 148 48 363

Only three hitters with a HardHit% more than one standard deviation above the mean also had a swinging strikeout rate more than a standard deviation below the mean: James Wood, Lars Nootbaar, and Eloy Jiménez. Three times as many hitters were a standard deviation above the mean for both HardHit% and swinging strikeout rate, including Harper, Witt, Francisco Lindor, and Teoscar Hernández.

What’s the point of all this? Well, don’t confuse a low swing rate for discipline and judgment. But I guess you would’ve known that already if you’d been watching Love Is Blind.





Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.

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David Klein
1 year ago

My little league coach told me a walk was as good as a hit but that was probably because I was a terrible hitter.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  David Klein

Mine told me to swing down through the ball – I had quick hands and shit bat control, so I just rolled it over every time.

The REAL launch angle revolution is when I dropped my hands and started hitting weak line drives over the second baseman’s head in ‘09!

…it didn’t last.

JuuuustAnotherBaseballFanMember since 2018
1 year ago
Reply to  David Klein

Mine didn’t tell me anything, so I just stood up there like a lump and struck out looking a lot. One day I had had enough of my passivity and ripped a triple past some surprised outfielders. Fangraphs, you were right.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
1 year ago

Ke’Bryan Hayes, just ouch. It feels like it takes actual work to strike out looking that much and not walk more than 6% of the time.

Also, Jose Ramirez is a freaking unicorn. To be running an almost 8% BB rate while having the largest share of swinging strikeouts implies a pretty damn good eye at the plate.

robertobeersMember since 2020
1 year ago

I think your MVP voting data is incorrect.

6 times Top 5 and 8 times Top 10 should be 5 and 7 times respectively, respectfully.

david k
1 year ago

First of all, if you are a small statured person in Little League, with notorious erratic pitching, your odds increase dramatically for getting that walk. And if you’re fast, with all that erratic pitching, odds are you’re soon standing on third base before the next hitter is even done. This is essentially how I played Little League baseball (1 legit HR in 3 years, but TONS of runs scored for teams that were massively offensively challenged). Even with two strikes, the odds of the pitcher getting that 3rd strike was still kinda low, particularly if the count was 2-2 or 3-2, which brings me to my next point….

Nowhere in the article did I see any mention about taking or swinging at strike 3 vs how many balls were in the count at the time. With an 0-2 count, odds are the pitcher is going to waste at least one, maybe two, so swinging at that count is clearly less of an advantage for a hitter than swinging at 2-2 or 3-2, I feel this is a big omission from the article.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  david k

A legit home run???

Get out of my nerd safe space!

(My little league highlight was getting a bunt down against That Six Foot Pitcher)

biggestdummyMember since 2020
1 year ago

I was master of the HBP. My body was bigger than the bat. And easier to control.

Outside of cul-de-sac games played with a bald tennis ball, I have no memory of ever even hitting a double. I mean, it must have happened, right?

david k
1 year ago

By legit, I mean I did hit it over the outfielder’s head, and there were no outfield fences (although even if there were, there’s no way they would have thrown me out). I’m little and fast, and back then, scrawny, so there was a bit of luck that I got into one. Funny thing is: in the same game, I hit a screaming line drive over the first baseman’s head that he jumped up and snagged (and dammit, that guy was tall too). Those were probably the two hardest hit balls I had in my 3 year little league career. And my HR broke up a no-hitter too, and gave us our only two runs of the game (guy ahead of me walked). I can probably count on one hand the number of legit extra base hits i had over my 3 years, and in fact, I still have my stats somewhere – yep I saved them, so I need to go look this up later.

I wasn’t much of a hitter, but my OBP was great because of all the walks. It was because of this, and playing Strat-O-Matic baseball, I learned the value of not making outs. So, yeah, I was a nerd too (still am), but became a pretty good slow pitch softball hitter with some pop (where the ball speed and size gave me a chance to actually hit something).

Last edited 1 year ago by david k
hahigginsMember since 2018
1 year ago

David Robertson career fWAR: 18.2
Craig Kimbrel career fWAR: 21.5

Not a diss on Kimbrel, more an appreciation of Robertson!