Estrada, Strickland Will Try To Bounce Back Out West

On Thursday, word broke that the Mariners had signed 30-year-old righty Hunter Strickland to a one-year , $1.3 million deal with incentives totaling about the same for games pitched and finished. On Friday afternoon, the Mariners’ division-mates in Oakland announced a deal of their own, for one year and for $4 million, with 35-year-old Marco Estrada. Both pitchers are 2019 bounce-back candidates, and both will spend at least a portion of 2019 in the AL West. Let’s discuss.

Given the terms of his deal, it seems reasonable to assume that the Mariners hope Strickland will be able to step into the ninth-inning role recently vacated by Edwin Díaz, perhaps in concert with Cory Gearren or Anthony Swarzak, or perhaps all by his lonesome, depending on how things shake out in spring training. That kind of uncertainty is the natural consequence of entering 2019 with a bullpen that’s lost Díaz, James Pazos, Juan Nicaso, and Alex Colomé to trade this winter and seems unlikely to welcome free agents Nick Vincent, Zach Duke, and Adam Warren back to Seattle. Seattle had an excellent bullpen in 2018 but doesn’t, in any meaningful sense, have that bullpen any more. Strickland is one of the new guard, here to carry the M’s over the water into the next phase of their rebuild.

Which makes the question of whether Strickland will be any good in 2019 something of an irrelevance to the Mariners’ long-term plans — if he’s good, he can be traded midseason; if he’s bad, it’s “just” $1.3 million — although it presumably remains of considerable importance to Strickland himself. For my money, I’d bet against renewed success in 2019. After routinely sitting in the low triple-digits with his four-fastball during his first three years in the majors (2014-2016), Strickland’s mean velocity on the pitch has dropped to 95.7 miles per hour, and his whiff percentage on the pitch has dropped from its high of 18% in 2015 to 8% last year. Those fundamentals have generated poor results across the board:

Hunter Strickland Had a Bad Year
Year IP K% BB% ERA FIP
2014-17 180.2 23.7% 7.9% 2.64 3.15
2018 45.1 18.4% 10.4% 3.97 4.42

It’s hard to know what precisely brought on Strickland’s decline, but given that fastballs don’t usually get faster with age and that Strickland’s particular fastball is already getting beaten up at 95-96 miles per hour, it’s hard to be too sanguine about his future. Then again, given the contract he signed and the Mariners’ current insistence on trading away all their best players, there really is very little downside to this deal for Seattle. Just maybe reinforce the clubhouse doors.

There’s far more reason to be optimistic about the A’s bounce-back candidate, Estrada, despite the fact that his 2018 was if anything even worse than Strickland’s (the 5.64 ERA and 1.82 HR/9 are the figures that jump out at you most immediately). For one thing, Estrada has never really relied on his velocity to generate outs and so last year’s mile-per-hour slide from 90.1 to 89.0 on the fastball isn’t really something to worry about — in fact, it puts him right around where he was in 2016, when he put up a 3.48 ERA over 176 innings for the Blue Jays. For another, Estrada’s game has always been up in the zone and so (a) bad years like 2018 were always going to happen from time to time and (b) you don’t have to wish for too much positive regression on the HR/9 to get him back into a range (say, 2016’s 1.18, or his career 1.41 mark) where you know he can have success.

In Oakland, Estrada will join Mike Fiers, who re-signed with the club in December, and holdovers/questionable starting pitchers Daniel Mengden, Chris Bassitt, and Frankie Montas in an A’s rotation that will be held together by hope and duct tape until Jharel Cotton (Tommy John), A.J. Puk (also Tommy John), and Sean Manaea (shoulder surgery) return to the field at some point mid-season (and maybe Jesús Luzardo comes up at some point). Given the circumstances, and the budget to which the club has decided to hew, Estrada is exactly the kind of guy you’d want to see the A’s sign: healthy (he’s never had an arm injury we know about), inexpensive, and a plausible candidate for solid numbers in 2019. If he’s good in the early going next year, he can slot in at the back end of a rotation that has a reasonable shot at the Wild Card if everything goes right. If he’s terrible, chances are the A’s are too, and — again — it’s just $4 million. Even for the A’s, that’s manageable — their 2018 payroll was $66 million and their commitments for 2019 total just $69 million so far. What could go wrong?

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Rian Watt is a contributor to FanGraphs based in Seattle. His work has appeared at Vice, Baseball Prospectus, The Athletic, FiveThirtyEight, and some other places too. By day, he works with communities around the world to end homelessness.

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Towel
7 years ago

When discussing Oakland’s rotation I think it’s inportant to remember that whether he starts the season with the club, or a month later, Luzardo figures to be a key part of it. Not mentioning him in favor of AJ Puk or Cotton just seems weird

jmsdean477
7 years ago
Reply to  Rian Watt

Yeah I wouldnt be surprised at all to see him spend 6-10 weeks in AAA pitching only 5 IP per start to keep his innings down a little for the later portion of the year while also letting him spend more then 4 starts in AAA refining his stuff.

HandsomeBoyModel
7 years ago

I guess the M’s aren’t signing Bryce Harper

pfgrMember since 2018
7 years ago

A’s still need more starters. Hoping they get Brett Anderson back, or Clay Buchholz, if they can be had for one year contracts. I would even roll the dice on Nate Karns.

jmsdean477
7 years ago
Reply to  pfgr

wanted them to grab Shelby Miller at the price he signed for.

Bootjosh
7 years ago
Reply to  pfgr

I liked the thought of Karns as well, but he’d just be added to the mid-season injury question marks… need another bridge more than another guy to add to that mix

JimMember since 2016
7 years ago

Nice line on the doors, Rian.

BPBerkeleyMember since 2016
7 years ago

Ryan closes by asking what could go wrong for the A’s. Given the terrible health luck their starting staff had last year, the possibilities seem virtually endless.

jmsdean477
7 years ago
Reply to  BPBerkeley

On the flip side it also means they have tons of starters on the mend as mid season additions.

CheeseballMember since 2016
7 years ago

This article, admirable in all other respects, fails to mention that Estrada’s changeup is the stuff whereof poetry is born and symphonies composed: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-rangers-worst-swings-against-marco-estrada/

HughesMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  Cheeseball

Was the stuff. He wasn’t able to make it work very well the last 2 seasons unfortunately.

Fredchuckdave
7 years ago

Nice Article, I wonder what Estrada’s contract would’ve been if he had put up 2.0-2.5 WAR last year (probably still not very high in this market)

Mac
7 years ago

The main Estrada storyline is his back injury. It started in spring 201 and got really bad mid-season, and ever since Estrada has periods where he just isn’t right and had disaster games.

When healthy, the elite changeup is still there along with the high spin rate rising fastball.

Supposedly Estrada had a new round of injections this fall and the back is feeling better. If that’s really true then there’s a good chance that his 2015 / early 2016 All-Star form is still there. If the back is problematic though could be a disaster.

Malcontent
7 years ago

On Strickland; he punched a wall and broke his hand after blowing a save on June 18th after averaging 96 mph for the night. When he returned August 18th, he averaged 93.6 mph, but over his last 4 appearances, he averaged 95.3 mph. Still not equal to the start of the year when he was averaging ~96.5 mph, but at least it showed he was regaining velocity lost from the broken hand.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
7 years ago

It’s a pity the A’s have an atrocious rotation, and refuse to fix it, given that their lineup and bullpen could each be above average.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

There are several problems here:
1) You can fix a lineup on the cheap these days, but not the rotation.
2) Free agents do not want to sign in Oakland, for the most part
3) Their two best prospects (Luzardo and Puk) are hopefully part of the solution, so they can’t be traded for help.

I would have liked to see them trade one of their controllable-starters-with-options for Sonny Gray, but that clearly wasn’t in the cards. And I don’t know if Barreto’s stock would be good enough to get them anyone good and controllable.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

It’s too bad not being cheap isn’t one of the options

bjoakMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Their lineup and bullpen could be above average? That’s hardly fair to a team that won 97 games. Could be above average (quality indicative of an 84 win team) and an “atrocious” staff, what’s your projection, 65 wins?

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