FanGraphs Crowd: Yoan Moncada’s Contract

Yesterday, FanGraphs facilitated a brief crowdsourcing project with a view towards estimating Cuban defector Yoan Moncada’s signing bonus and other relevant information concerning the 19-year-old infielder.

What follows are the results of that effort followed by analysis courtesy FanGraphs’ lead prospect analyst Kiley McDaniel.

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Signing Bonus
Moncada will likely receive the largest bonus ever given to a free agent who’s also subject to Major League Baseball’s international free agent rules. (Note: the figures below do not include the 100% tax to which Moncada’s signing club will be subject.)

Here’s the median figure as projected by the crowd: $45.0 million.

And here’s the average figure: $43.3 million.

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And here’s a histogram of all possible outcomes with also a Cuban flag in the background:

Bonus Graph Cuban

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Likely Club
The crowd regards the New York Yankees as the most likely destination for Moncada, with roughly 48% of respondents guessing that he’ll end up with that club.

Here are the crowd’s responses in the form of a pie chart laid atop an image of Wade Boggs riding triumphantly upon a horse:

Boggs Horse

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Signing Date
As reported by Kiley McDaniel on that same afternoon, Moncada finally became eligible to sign with a major-league club on Tuesday.

Here are the crowd’s estimates as to when he’ll do that:

This Week: 7%
Next Week: 41%
Feb. 16-28: 43%
March: 8%
Later: 1%

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Analysis by Kiley McDaniel
After the initial, logical and source-supported buzz that the Yankees and Red Sox were the real contenders for Moncada early on, the Dodgers have now emerged as the leader. Between their willingness to spend big, their relatively quiet spending this off-season and the track record of their new top executives, most in the industry feel the Dodgers will go highest in the Moncada bidding.

With Tampa Bay, new Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman went over his international bonus pool twice, the most teams he could have possibly done it under the new rules. In their most recent pool-busting season, the Rays did it basically to sign one player, who most thought was the best player in the class (Dominican SS Adrian Rondon).

When he was the Assistant GM with the A’s, new Dodgers GM Farhan Zaidi was instrumental is the small market team spending $36 million on Yoenis Cespedes, at a time when Cuban hitters didn’t have a great track record of MLB success. It probably doesn’t hurt that the Dodgers also have a distinct Cuban influence with Yasiel Puig, Yasmani Grandal, Alex Guerrero and Erisbel Arruebarrena.

The Yankees probably need Moncada the most as their core players are aging out and, while the Bombers are trending up on the farm, they don’t have the elite and near MLB-ready talent that the Red Sox and Dodgers possess. That combined with the $30 million they spent on this year’s international crop (double the previous record) and the coming two-year penalty on high dollar international amateur spending makes the Yankees the most motivated to spend big. There have been some restraint for the Yankees on big-dollar signings in recent years compared to their previous standard, but Moncada wouldn’t have luxury tax implications, so he’s more akin to a big amateur outlay that would stand in for two years of spending, rather than a big league free agent.

The Red Sox are near full with bats in the upper levels and big leagues and have spent heavily this off-season, so they’re seen as more of a third team in this derby. There are some rumors of teams on the fringes that may get involved as a finalist (the Tigers, A’s, Braves, Giants, Brewers, Padres have all been mentioned by sources as likely to bid), but every indication I’ve gotten is that the next tier of teams is hoping the bonus is around $30 million so they can participate, with most thinking the price ends up at $40 million or more, likely knocking those teams out. The Rangers and Cubs have to sit out until July 2nd due to past overspending and, due to the Moncada camp’s desire to sign quickly, they’re all but eliminated despite efforts to get him to wait. The Dodgers then the Yankees is how the industry handicaps it at this point, with the Red Sox atop of group of interested teams that are likely not willing to spend quite enough to hang with the favorites.





Carson Cistulli has published a book of aphorisms called Spirited Ejaculations of a New Enthusiast.

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Ramblin' Rose
11 years ago

This is hard to get my head around as I’m still freaked out by Cistuli’s appearance on MLB Network last night. I mean, REALLY freaked out by his *appearance*. (shudders)

Danny Knobgobbler
11 years ago
Reply to  Ramblin' Rose

Word on the street is that Dan Plesac contracted a nasty case of poulet poumon via satellite, thanks to Cistulli.

"Dayn Perry"
11 years ago

No, it was I who did it.

Free_AEC
11 years ago

“The Yankees probably need Moncada the most

Explain how the Yankees need Yoan Moncada more than the Phillies

The Phillies have one of the worst farm systems in MLB. The last impact position player they produced was Ryan Howard. The last impact pitcher was Cole Hamels and arguably the last before Hamels was Rick Wise.

The Phillies are utterly clueless when drafting and have made virtually no staff changes in the past decade. Purchasing a consensus stud talent like Moncada makes more sense for the Phillies than any other team given that they play with the same financial resources as the Yankees and Dodgers.
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Kanye
11 years ago
Reply to  Free_AEC

The Phillies don’t play with the same financial resources as the Yankees and Dodgers though.

a eskpert
11 years ago
Reply to  Kanye

He does have a point. The Phillies have similar money to the Red Sox, and much more need.

Ray
11 years ago
Reply to  Kanye

wrong. The Phillies do have the financial resources that the Dodgers and Yankees have.

Kevin Goldstein
11 years ago
Reply to  Ray

How so? The Phillies just signed one of the largest TV deals in baseball and have maintained an annual salary for its players that was in the top 5 the past 5 years.

The Ancient Mariner
11 years ago
Reply to  Free_AEC

You missed the implied second half of that statement: “. . . of the primary contenders for Moncada.”

Free_AEC
11 years ago

MONEY is the only criteria for being a “contender” to sign Yoan Moncada.

YOU missed that part.
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Brian L
11 years ago
Reply to  Free_AEC

Intro: Industry buzz that dodgers, yanks & sox most likely
Para 1&2: analysis of dodgers
Para 3: analysis of yanks
Para 4: analysis of sox

Reading Comprehension Testing 101: Don’t extrapolate outside the scope of the article

JP Yetman
11 years ago
Reply to  Free_AEC

Typical sports fan from Philly

Jorden
11 years ago

Not sure how Yankees need Moncada more than the Dodgers.

Uribe (3b), rollins (ss), kendrick (2b) – all free agents after this season.

Bill
11 years ago
Reply to  Jorden

True, but the Dodgers have an elite talent in Corey Seager to fill one of those spots and the financial might to resign Kendrick if they so choose. The Yanks don’t have near as many options at the moment.

Adam
11 years ago
Reply to  Jorden

The Yankees have the ghost of A-Rod (3B/DH), Headley (3B), Drew (SS, 2B), and a bunch of fringe prospects at SS/2B. Hell, the Yankees would probably kill for an Alex Guerrero right now, who is at the bottom of the Dodgers infield depth chart.

Matt
11 years ago
Reply to  Adam

Maybe they’d kill for him, but they wouldn’t trade anything of value for him, apparently, because if they wanted to they’d have him already.

Nate
11 years ago

Carson, were we not also polled as to when Moncada might make his MLB debut? Where the debut poll results chart??!!

noseeum
11 years ago

It’s a little shocking to me that the Dodgers would be willing to essentially give up 3 years of the IFA market for one player.

The Dodgers laid low this year, and now they’re going to give up the next two as well? I’m surprised they see that as the best option.

Yanks and Sox have already spent their dough this year, so their spending will already be limited for two years. Why not just mark this as the next two year’s IFA budgets? Hal, can you hear me? 🙂

Free_AEC
11 years ago

And yes, I am in fact, better than everyone because I use lots of italics, bolded words, and my Caps Lock key often gets stuck.

How DARE anyone have the audacity to challenge my truths!

Luuuuc
11 years ago
Reply to  Free_AEC

Do you have any google suggestions for me, though?

Phillies113
11 years ago

I’d voted for $45m and going to the Dodgers (don’t remember the rest). I feel like the Dodgers have the most resources and the most need for Moncada, given the age and pending free agency of a good chunk of their infield at the moment.

M W
11 years ago

What was the sample?

If it’s like fans projections – with less than 12 homers projecting – I take little from these figures.

If it was over 100, it’s interesting and probably won’t be out of line with what will eventually happen in reality.

novaether
11 years ago

I apologize if this has been sussed out elsewhere, but can somebody please tell me why teams will be willing to pony up a $45 mil signing bonus + $45 mil tax + 2 years of international signing ability = about $100 mil in value for this guy?

Other studies have shown that the present surplus value of a top prospect is roughly $50 mil. How is the remaining $50 mil justified?

Kevin Goldstein
11 years ago
Reply to  novaether

Its the ability to go over 300k on signing an individual player. They can still sign international free agents. An international draft is coming anyway, this ridiculous signing is all but assuring it.

maqman
11 years ago

He’s cheaper than Trout?