FanGraphs Opening Day 2020 Chat

7:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Chats. A time for chats.

7:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: THERE IS AN ACTUAL BASEBALL GAME

7:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think. Today’s Thursday, right?

7:03
Guest: Or Mr. Belvedere

7:03
Guest: Dan! How about the baseball tonight theme on SoundCloud in honor of the return of the season?

7:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: No, we can’t weird up the Real Chats too much.

7:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Save that for SzymChat.

7:03
This is lude-i-cris: Hoping for many quadrangulars! Logic says it’s not in the likely range of outcomes.

7:03
Not Chet: MORE BASENALL

7:04
Dodger Fan: Not that lineup order really matters much, but the top 4 of the Dodgers’ order tonight makes very little sense

7:04
Chet: MORE BASEBALL!

7:04
Dodger Fan: No question, but it’s getting harder and harder to like Kershaw

7:04
Not Bork: Hello, friends!

7:04
Guest: Are there any more last minute announcements from MLB we should know about? Will 1 of every 10 balls now randomly be a tennis ball? Are the rules of Futurama’s blernsball now binding on MLB play? How many multi balls have to be caught for an out

7:04
Dodger Fan: Thoughts on the proposed postseason format?

7:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

7:04
Gunther Centralperk: Kershaw out with back stiffness. This is some kind of cruel joke. I’m absolutely sick over this.

7:04
Wireless Joe Jackson: PSA:  Tmobile subscribers get free MLB TV and a free subscription to The Athletic redeemable through August 4

7:04
Dodger Fan: Will this chat be more like Twitter or NPR?

7:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: With me around, more like Animal House

7:05
Lorenzo: Here’s hoping Soto had a false positive and will test negative twice by next week.

7:05
Tony Wolfe: I’m not as down on the new postseason format as many seem to be, but I certainly understand the skepticism over it

7:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

7:05
Tony Wolfe: I wouldn’t want it installed permanently, but for just a 2020 thing? Whatever

7:05
Appa Yip Yip: I genuinely believe that Bo Bichette is just walking around the clubhouse whispering “Road Warriors” into everyone’s ears and he is Convincing Them.

7:06
Estevao: When AJ Prefer took over the Padres was he pushed to go all in from the get go by ownership. He seems like a smart GM but some of the moves like trading Grandal for Kemp were beyond any reasoning? He is the GM that intrigues me the most

7:06
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Methink I detect the scent of an owner

7:06
Ari P: What teams are the biggest winners and losers from playoffs expanding? I would think the mets/nats are big winners, but not sure who else

7:07
Avatar Dan Szymborski: the second/third tier contenders fare best

7:07
Estevao: Were there any considerations of going with a Dome Stadium before building Coors Field? What would you think of that

7:07
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t recall if there were. I prefer no domes. Or at least non-retractable domes.

7:07
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Baseball should be an outdoor game whenever possible

7:07
2-D: No staff predictions post?

7:07
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think there is one, we did one!

7:08
Dodger Fan: If Dan is here, cat update?

7:08
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Three are sleeping. I can here Justinian in the hallway above me office still playing with that damn door toy.

7:08
Tony Wolfe: I believe they may have been waiting to post the predictions post until a decision was made on the playoff format

7:08
Tony Wolfe: Then the decision was…. unexpected

7:08
Avatar Dan Szymborski: This is my endless life now.

7:08
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

7:09
Narvain: Dan, what’s your percentage of certainty that baseball will happen this year now?

7:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Approaching 100%, but never reaching!

7:09
Ryan: Kershaw: Hall of Famer if he never pitches again?

7:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yes

7:09
Tony Wolfe: Oh 100%

7:11
Tony Wolfe: Was a little surprised to see Kershaw is actually 2.8 wins short of the JAWS standard right now, and then remembered he’s only 32!

7:11
Estevao: Am I the only one that doesn’t understand why would Luhnow take part in a sign stealing scandal for competitive advantage when he built a powerhouse that would make the playoffs regardless. It killed his career

7:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Honestly, I think it’s more sloppiness and not paying enough attention to what was going on at the clubhouse level than him choosing to take part in this.

7:12
WBuffett: Money aside, what player from G1 tonight would you choose to start a franchise with?

7:12
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Without SOto probably Cole for me

7:12
Avatar Dan Szymborski: then Torres and Turner

7:12
Guest: Dan this is like when you go to a friend’s work event and realize he’s completely different with his colleagues.

7:12
Tony Wolfe: I think it’s probably Torres

7:14
brad penny for your thoughts: this first “game” is just MLB the show, it’s all a lie

7:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Not with this resolution!

7:14
JJ: Ron Fowler is the driving force behind the Padres two worst acquisitions of Kemp and Hosmer, change my mind.

7:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I won’t

7:14
LFC Mike: Dan..Is your answer to every question about a player going to be : “It’s July”  for at least another week?

7:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yeah, then August until the 23rd

7:14
JJ: Alex Rodriguez just called Scherzer’s curveball a “get-me-over curve”

7:14
Sgt. Pepper: Please make lonely Buster Olney a meme

7:15
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I swear, when A-Rod made his first appearances back at the end of his career, wasn’t he a lot better?

7:15
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Feels like his analysis has gotten lazier and generally worse

7:16
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Someone should tell him that Torres started 77 games at short last year.

7:16
Avatar Dan Szymborski: 73

7:16
guy who takes the lay up: buster lonely

7:16
Dodger Fan: I love how normal this feels

7:16
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It does feel like they’re playing in Miami

7:17
Avatar Dan Szymborski: And then there’s a HR

7:17
Anonymous: SMALL BALL GO FAR

7:17
Estevao: In an alternate reality with very subtle changes Kershaw has 6 Young’s, he should’ve beaten Dickey in 12, that one when he got hurt was a joke had he pitcher five clunkers more he would have easily won it and the year he got 300 K’s the competition was beyond the usual level.

7:17
Guest: I think they should leave all the home runs balls in place for the entire season

7:18
Waffles: Watching the ball get to bounce after a homerun is gonna be awesome

7:19
2-D: How many home run jokes are we going to have to endure where the punchline is along the lines of “the ball is practicing social distancing”?

7:19
Avatar Dan Szymborski: 7.5 per game

7:19
Oddball Herrera: Stanton just sent me from first to last in roto. Should I sell and play for next year?

7:19
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yup, season’s like a quarter over already!

7:20
tb.25: feelsbadman Dan turned off emoji responses

7:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I didn’t set up the chat, so no emoji!

7:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Well, still FOR ME!

7:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: 🤑🤑🤑🤑

7:21
ThQp: Are live stats going to be enabled on player pages? Trying to look up Stanton’s stat line for the season after that AB, but no dice

7:21
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Haven’t heard elsewise, I don’t really do that stuff!

7:21
marechal: So a DH homers in the first DH at bat ever in an NL park. Baseball!

7:21
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I have never heard of hankook tires

7:22
Avatar Dan Szymborski: should I have?

7:22
Oscar Gamble: ARod: It’s not a sprint, it’s a 9.7 mile run. Do the math!

7:23
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m sorry, but Lex Luger is the total package

7:23
5 Run Homer: Hankook advertises heavily on Hockey Night in Canada

7:23
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yeah, I’m sure Gerrit Cole’s season will come down to if there’s a lot of nodding in the first 20 pitches.

7:24
Avatar Dan Szymborski: We all know that it comes down to odd number vs. even number leads.

7:24
Peter: Hankook is quite popular over here in the UK

7:24
jamesdakrn: Kershaw’s back will forever be a “what-if” to me.

before his first back injury in 2016, he was having a Pedro ’99 esque season –
121 IP 1.79 ERA, 1.67 FIP 5.3 fWAR in 16 starts

In the month of May ’16, he had more CGSO (3) than walks allowed (2) – 6 starts, 49.2 IP, 0.91 ERA 0.91 FIP, 2.9 fWAR

Afterwards, his velocity started dropping and he went from “best-pitcher-on-the-planet” Kershaw to “really-good-but-not-top-3” Kershaw

🙁

7:24
Avatar Dan Szymborski: His dropoff hasn’t been off to get a ZiPS Time Warp though! Maybe if he gets eaten by an elephant or something.l

7:24
Tony Wolfe: Is Eaton doing a subdued Soto shuffle?

7:24
Avatar Dan Szymborski: “There is Dave…..”

7:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think you mean “What the World Series hangover means is nothing at all.”

7:25
Kiermaier’s Piercing Green Eyes: Seriously, MLB.TV subscribers, just listen to the radio broadcasts. Sync up with ESPN by pausing your stream or DVR. ESPN can’t hurt you here.

7:25
Oddball Herrera: No joke, today Google adchoices on your site came up with a Lockheed Martin ad for hypersonic missiles. They clearly found their target market!

7:25
Anonymous: Notable HR threat Adam Eaton

7:26
Estevao: Ball Juiced …

7:26
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s not a good sign when they run out of insightful things to say about the players in the bottom of the first of the first game.

7:26
Guest: That’s why Eaton hits second!

7:27
Dodger Fan: Here come the juiced ball comments

7:27
Anonymous: yikes, Gary Sanchez costing Cole strikes already

7:27
Waffles: Did they juice the juiced ball?

7:27
Michael Scarn: Apologies if you’ve answered this elsewhere – what type of team (i.e. lots of depth, star heavy, great rotation/bullpen/etc) would you expect to benefit the most from having a 60 game season and the other weird circumstances of the season?

7:28
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Depth and just averageish teams.

7:28
Guest: So we’re going to have another one of those “people only score via home run” seasons again? That was fun last year…

7:29
Avatar Dan Szymborski: So when Joe West opted out, did they simply pick the next most incompetent umpire to be crew chief?

7:29
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Wait, not West

7:29
Tony Wolfe: I’d still say those with a surplus of starters are at a pretty significant advantage — the Dodgers being able to go “oh, no Kershaw? Fine, here’s Dustin May” is a luxury most teams don’t have

7:29
Kiermaier’s Piercing Green Eyes: Crowd noise needs to be indignant about bad ball/strike calls.

7:29
2-D: AJ Hinch is yelling at the TV that Cole should still be on the bench.

7:29
Adam Z: More people in this chat or in the stadium?

7:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Chat

7:30
Guest: Is depth more important in 60 games or 162 games?

7:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Normally, 162

7:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski: but there’s a special circumstance with this 60 games

7:30
Dodger Fan: How many are in the chat?

7:30
Tony Wolfe: Like, the Angels having a few late scratches could be horrifying

7:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski: 172 right now

7:31
5 Run Homer: Whyyyyy did they show a dramatic slow-mo of Fauci’s pitch

7:31
Estevao: Greinke is a candidate for the Hall of Fame and I really have no clue what would he wear

7:31
desertfox9139: seriously, what happens if 9 players test positive simultaneously for the same team?

7:32
Dylan: Which Cubs gets more MVP votes? Bryant, Baez, or Contreras?

7:32
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t think they actually know

7:32
Anonymous: Sad that Dan didn’t get to spam “April” as answers to small-sample-size freakouts this year 🙁

7:32
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’ll just be spamming a different month

7:32
Peter: Greinke would be in Angels red obviously!

7:32
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Greinke should show up wearing the cap of a team he never played for

7:33
Oscar Gamble: Is getting to pick your opponents part of the new playoff agreement?

7:33
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m still not sure what the core is. Did we evolve and grow a new part I don’t know?

7:34
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yes

7:35
Fangraph’s Lurker: I could see Greinke asking to design his own hat for the hall

7:35
desertfox9139: if POC tests were 80 percent accurate, how many tests would each player have to take in order to be 99.9 percent sure he is not positive

7:35
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Don’t make me think

7:35
Avatar Dan Szymborski: 4

7:36
Pieman: Will home field advantage matter this season?

7:36
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m not sure – I haven’t found that teams with less attendance had smaller HFA

7:36
Kiermaier’s Piercing Green Eyes: Greinke with the backwards cap. Problem solved.

7:37
Tony Wolfe: NYT just had a story a few weeks ago talking about how the empty stadiums have affected soccer games https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/sports/soccer/soccer-without-fans-g…

7:37
Tony Wolfe: Baseball fans are obviously much different behaving, though

7:37
Kvn: Yanks hitters’ timing looks pretty off. Bet there will be a lot of late swings in the early going.

7:37
Adam: On # of tests, infinite if the 20% error is systematic — like misses certain cases — not random.

7:38
asnbrv: Does statcast usually need time to get up to speed? theres no way all Coles pitches are 4seamers with mid80 break. Ive noticed way more weird pitch categorization in the practice games too.

7:38
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Maybe still working out the hawkeye stuff?

7:38
Jonesy Wales: I think it’s mostly a classification issue–Dillon Maples was definitely not throwing 88MPH fastballs last night

7:38
Estevao: I understand your point about Luhnow but that’s even worse. How can you be so clueless to allow such a scenario where the biggest downside is on you

7:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Gotta go with Hanlon’s razor

7:39
Anonymous: Baby Jays gonna set some records at Camden this year

7:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Poor O’s.

7:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Look at their roster

7:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Just read the whole thing

7:39
Guest: Not watching. How’s the fake crowd noise?

7:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It doesn’t count unless you can actually boo

7:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: or each IP gets a jeer to play every game

7:40
Tony Wolfe: have trash can bangs ready for when the astros visit

7:40
Oddball Herrera: Poor O’s their only good player from last year has a bum colon…..

7:40
Kvn: What Dan you’re not pumped for the Tommy Milone experience?

7:41
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Milone had to check the roster to see if HE was on the team

7:41
rusty shackleford: i forgot edinson volquez started in two world series games… and his team won that world series

7:41
Guest: If they go the route of digitally adding crowd noise to broadcasts they need to make sure it is realistic. For example, total silence for all games played in Florida and the occasional racial slur in Boston

7:41
2-D: What are they going to do with all these extra baseballs that usually end up in the stands?

7:41
Avatar Dan Szymborski: One reason I’m sad that credentials are limited this year.

7:41
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Usually with the badge, you can just walk right in.

7:41
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I could finish the season with 20-30 homers I bet!

7:42
asnbrv: You’d think if ESPN had justification to crank up bat contact noises as if they are some kind of bombing, its this season, but I guess not.

7:42
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Crank down A-Rod sounds

7:42
desertfox9139: the cubs are sending the balls to the season ticket holder of the seat where the ball landed

7:42
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Really?

7:42
Avatar Dan Szymborski: That’s cool

7:43
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Oh, I wasn’t doubting you, I just had missed it

7:43
Dodger Fan: Broadcast said 97 – that looked like a curve to me

7:43
Guest: But the Cubs have a GoFundMe for the postage. Dan, please contribute.

7:43
Avatar Dan Szymborski: THERE AIN”T NO MONEY IN BASEBALL!!!!1111

7:44
desertfox9139: I didnt think you were.  just wanted to double check my reference!!

7:44
Sgt. Pepper: The echo from (what i assume is) the studio on bat contact is irritating

7:44
Tony Wolfe: what on earth is matt talking about

7:44
Dodger Fan: A-Rod has made little sense tonight

7:44
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Evergreen

7:44
Adam Z: I hope Arod buys the mets so we don’t have to listen to him doing play by play anymore

7:45
Wireless Joe Jackson: Today’s games are tough.  I guess I’m a Nats well-wisher, in that I don’t wish them any specific harm.  Yankees and Dodgers are like rooting for your least favorite billionaires.  I was forced to curse the Giants to a decade of futility after 2014.

7:45
JaAm: Did Gerrit Cole thrown all fastballs up until the 0-2 pitch to Stevenson or can I not trust Statcast yet?

7:45
Wireless Joe Jackson: Surely the Cubs can have an unpaid intern deliver the balls in their personal vehicle.

7:45
Dodger Fan: That commercial didn’t age well

7:45
Oddball Herrera: Anything ARod says is progress over the even/odd leads claim

7:45
Shoeless Tim: Dog sweatshirt

7:45
jamesdakrn: re: crowd noise

also need to add dodger crowd noises slowly coming in after the 3rd inning

7:46
Dodger Fan: MasterCard: “Start something priceless” …like the Dodgers’ rotation!

7:46
Adam Z: My dog barked at the tv when that other dog got a yankees shirt. We live just outside of Boston. He is a good boy.

7:46
Avatar Dan Szymborski: When my sister was away and I was feeding her cats, I put one of her cats in a steelers shirt and took pictures of the cat to send her. She was so pissed!

7:47
Anonymous: Tyler Wade, please don’t bunt. I don’t know you, but I know you’re better than that.

7:47
Estevao: I miss Vin Scully? Most likeable human in the history of the world

7:47
Shoeless Tim: Wade double rn

7:47
Guest: Sisters’ cats’ names?

7:47
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Tesla and Darwin

7:47
Anonymous: 65-grade cat names

7:47
Dodger Fan: “Last year [LeMahieu] almost won the MVP”

7:48
Dodger Fan: That is grossly untrue

7:48
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Dammit, I’m like 5 seconds behind you guys

7:48
Tony Wolfe: What, you don’t think receiving zero first place votes counts as almost winning?

7:49
Tony Wolfe: Same, Dan

7:49
Dodger Fan: Sorry Dan!

7:49
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s just funny when I get the criticism of the analysis before the analysis!

7:49
Avatar Dan Szymborski: So it’s like a prophecy being foretold

7:49
JaAm: Kevin Pillar also almost won MVP last season

7:49
Anonymous: oh snap, Tyler Wade apparently steals bases. Will he steal a taco for america? Is that promotion over? Stay tuned!

7:49
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I want a promotion in which I can un-eat Taco Bell tacos I did as a youngster

7:50
Hire Joe Morgan?: As a Mets fan, I’m in position of explaining to my daughter why we’re rooting for the Yankees on Opening Day.  She’s already internalized the proper view of Yankees, of course.  This fits the season, I suppose.

7:50
Adam Z: Arod says something nonsensical

7:50
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Thankfully evergreen

7:50
JJ: Is “X almost won the MVP” the new “everyone’s ceiling is the best player in baseball”

7:50
brad: With a little effort I’ve managed to sync the radio broadcast on the MLB app to the game and escaped ARod, just to suggest an option

7:50
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I keep forgetting that Hicks still exists.

7:50
Oddball Herrera: The taco promotion is still on, but if more than one person handles the taco it must be thrown out

7:50
5 Run Homer: This strike zone sure is something

7:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

7:51
5 Run Homer: Hicks is real good!

7:51
Guest: If you live somewhere where it’s worth driving to Taco Bell for a free taco, it’s time to move.

7:51
Quarantino Martinez: Hicks doesn’t exist. Tupac hologram.

7:52
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I should be nice to Matt, he had to say my name for MLB the Show this year!

7:52
Anonymous: going down 0-2 to max scherzer must be one of the worst feelings on the planet

7:52
Avatar Dan Szymborski: nice pitch there

7:52
Tony Wolfe: that was filthy

7:53
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The crowd noise is awkwardly timed after events.

7:53
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It peaks too quickly and then dies off to fast.

7:53
Avatar Dan Szymborski: too fast

7:53
JaAm: Over/Under on the “No Arguments” rule being broken is 4.5 innings

7:53
Anonymous: a lot of folks forgot Aaron Judge was good at baseball, i’m not naming names

7:53
Avatar Dan Szymborski: When he’s good, he’s going to get outs, when he’s bad, he’s not going to get outs and allow homers!

7:54
Tony Wolfe: “He thinks he is better than you in the strike zone.”

7:54
Tony Wolfe: *CRANK*

7:54
only correct takes: i like the piped in ambient crowd noise but the cheers are terrible. like no stadium is cheering that hard for a 3rd inning popout

7:54
Anonymous: okay i’ll name names. JUSTIN. PAUL. FIGURE IT OUT.

7:54
5 Run Homer: The phantom catcher’s mitt on that tunnelling graphic is hilarious

7:55
Quarantino Martinez: Spitting!!!!

7:55
Avatar Dan Szymborski: SUSPENDED~!

7:55
See! You! Later!: where are you in the show

7:55
Avatar Dan Szymborski: We’re in the ASG week.

7:55
Dodger Fan: Only correct takes, you clearly  haven’t been to a Dodger Stadium playoff game

7:56
5 Run Homer: Stanton’s batting stance is lowkey weird as hell

7:56
Anonymous: oh right. Giancarlo Stanton does that a lot too

7:56
Tony Wolfe: is “giancarlo stanton almost played tight end” the antithesis of “antonio gates was a basketball player”?

7:57
SDP: Tyler Wade scored from first?? That ball was hit hard! And Stevenson cut it off!

7:57
JaAm: I think it’s more like “Tyler Wade is running like a wide receiver going from 1st to Home”

7:58
Avatar Dan Szymborski: See, these ads of people biking and running alongside dangerous cliffs doesn’t make me want to go to Dick’s

7:59
Kvn: RIP Modell’s. Dick’s out here rubbing it in.

7:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: That’s not really TWO kitchens Chipotle

8:00
Avatar Dan Szymborski: There are still other writers, it’ nost JUST Butter

8:00
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Buster

8:00
Guest: Dick Pole turns 70 this year.

8:00
Dodger Fan: “Secondary leadoff man” Victor Robles

8:00
rusty shackleford: one doesn’t usually associate jogging or biking with danger

8:00
5 Run Homer: Look at all those people not distancing

8:00
Dodger Fan: Did he just call Robles…Soto?

8:01
Oddball Herrera: Looks like Fauci has entered the pantheon of all time terrible first pitches. How hard is it people?!

8:01
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He’s 79!

8:02
Tony Wolfe: It is weird to talk a bunch about how there aren’t fans in the stands because of the safety regulations and then show a bunch of people outside the park sitting exactly as close to each other as they would be in the stadium

8:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

8:02
Dodger Fan: WEAR MASKS GUYS – I’m talking to you people walking the game from other buildings

8:02
Guest: For those of us not watching, are they social distancing on the bench?

8:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Not particularly

8:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I do find it funny that there’s this group of writers horrified that players are being forced to play baseball at all

8:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: while all these players are mostly “whatever”

8:03
Quarantino Martinez: But they’re not as packed as usual, imo

8:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: No, but it’s not six feet either

8:03
JaAm: Teams should just let something like 3 fans into the stadium nosebleeds

8:03
Advice From A-Rod: The winner will be the team that scores the most runs

8:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think what happens is there gets some creeping there

8:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: first it’s 3 and then it’s 6

8:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: and then you’re like eric cartman letting the first 11,000 people in so that you can pay the pitcher

8:03
only correct takes: ok maybe it is carly rae jespen lmao i don’t think i’ve seen that one

8:04
Kvn: “Alex you can speak to this better than any of us…”

I doubt it.

8:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Alex should be proud of how those negotiations went? And the leadership from ownership?

8:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I can smell Manfred’s butt on A-Rod’s nose from here.

8:04
Oddball Herrera: There is a group of sports writers who have one schtick – be outraged and accuse people of being greedy.  Not in the least surprised they are trying to generate pushback against starting the season, because that’s their thing

8:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Here’s the thing about this, it’s important to not gratuitously ban things because then you erode support for the actual things you need to ban

8:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: At least, that’s my opinion

8:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Like the whole baseball SHOULDN’T be played, even if fewer players get sick and there are no fans

8:06
Avatar Dan Szymborski: becuase of some moral preening about how some aspect of life that people enjoy being going is an outrage evne if there’s no specific danger.

8:06
Avatar Dan Szymborski: MLB’s plan hasn’t been perfect and can be improved, but I have serious doubts that any more players will get COVID than would have otherwise.

8:06
Avatar Dan Szymborski: And a LOT would have without baseball. These are 20-40 year-old athletes, many rich. They’d be at beaches and bars and so on

8:07
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m not going to pick on any writer in paricularly, but that’s how I feel

8:07
Anonymous: how many umps opted out?

8:07
Avatar Dan Szymborski: 10 or so?

8:07
Anonymous: BRO this strike zone

8:07
homealone: to back up that point, just look at how many NBA players were partying and tested positive between the time the league shut down and the bubble started

8:07
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Baseball had that superspreader birthday party and that underground baseball club league

8:08
Tony Wolfe: I don’t necessarily think anyone individually is more at risk than they might have been otherwise, I just worry about how fast it could spread once one guy does have it

8:08
Andy: I think there’s some value to the society to have baseball back, even under weird shortened-season rules.   Maybe they should have started the season with Marlins vs. Royals.  Then Matty V could ask “is it ok for us to play baseball” and ARod could answer “Yes, but this isn’t baseball”

8:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: That’s not to say MLB shouldn’t have rules to follow. They should! And I think their plan is reasonable, if not perfect.

8:09
Tony Wolfe: And sending them all over the country skeeves me out

8:09
chumpy: I think this is enough pitches to say that Scherzer is officially washed.

8:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He’s had a lot of sweat even for the weather

8:10
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

8:10
Wire Fan: It is good to see the layoff hasn’t affected Angel Hernandez’s bad umpiring skills

8:10
Oddball Herrera: Agreed – I am not sure if many writers aren’t good at expressing that a choice must be made from many imperfect options, or if the public doesn’t want to read that content, but discourse suffers for it either way

8:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Now, I think anyone who wants to opt-out ought to, with no slights targeted at their character. Allowing people to opt-out is what makes allowing people to opt-in an ethical possibility

8:11
Guest: Now that baseball is back, who feels healed?!?

8:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Not healed, but I feel a bit better!

8:11
homealone: Scherzer is washed? with 8 strikeouts in the fourth?

8:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I was under the impression it was sarcasm

8:11
Dodger Fan: I felt healed before the Kershaw news

8:11
alex rodriguez: *laughing harder at my own joke than the person i’m talking to*

8:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Hey, I’m in that boat a lot

8:12
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Normally when I post the neural network things that I think I find way funnier than anyone else does

8:12
kevinthecomic: Skinny Voit hasn’t been able to catch up to the fastball yet

8:12
Dodger Fan: So A-Rod and I finally have something in common

8:12
Tony Wolfe: Isn’t Chris Sale the all-time K/9 leader? Or did I not see an innings qualifier

8:13
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Given the spread of COVID-19, I’m not sure we “earned” the season

8:13
Dave: Sports are the reward for a functioning society, or if billionaires really want to make more money

8:13
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t buy that line at all.

8:13
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Sporst are the product of people who voluntarily want to produce sporting events meeting with peopel who voluntarily want to play in those sporting events.

8:13
Avatar Dan Szymborski: And most societies have had some form of sport, whether everything’s run smoothly or not

8:14
Wire Fan: What i find odd is media questioning baseball’s plan and logistics yet seemingly having no issue with college and pro football… Which is going to be an absolute nightmare.

8:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Football was always kind of screwed

8:14
Tony Wolfe: I just don’t think those sports have put forth much of a plan *to* criticize

8:15
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Even if football was more confident, the sport itself causes problems.

8:15
Tony Wolfe: And I have seen the NFL taking more heat lately

8:15
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The sport of football, in terms of human contact, is a clothed orgy.

8:16
Avatar Dan Szymborski: More players touch each other in a single play of football than in an entire game of baseball

8:16
Shirtless George Brett: What I find funny is that MLB’s plan was deemed bad enough for Canada to just kick the Jays out of the country and everyone just kind of went “meh” and moved on.

8:16
Avatar Dan Szymborski: If it had been hockey, they would have burned down Ottawa

8:16
Anonymous: College football is more important to healing the nation because the athletes aren’t paid. Overhead cost is a key factor in healing

8:16
Guest: From a predictive standpoint who would be considered to have a better start?

Obviously the 8 Ks compared to 3 is impressive, but it also seems that the Yankees have more consistently barreled Scherzer?

8:16
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s a game, it really doesn’t have predictive value

8:16
complains about pointless things: i hate the phrase ‘winner take all’

8:17
Avatar Dan Szymborski: World Series Game 7, where winner takes a majority of the revenue!

8:17
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Not as good a catchphrase

8:18
JaAm: “Winner wins”

8:19
Dodger Fan: “Royals, Matt Harvey nearing deal.”

8:19
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Do you really near a minor league deal? You either have one or you don’t

8:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Speaking of my obnoxious neural network games…

8:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Completion

Top Nicknames for New York Yankees Players

Gary Sanchez – Stubborn

Craig Kimbrel – The Gazebo

Matt Holliday – The Colonel

Brian McCann – Pete

Gary Sanchez – Farley

Jack Cust – Old Man Out

Noah Syndergaard – The Cheese Chef

Max Scherzer – The Crown Prince

Alex Rodriguez – Bruiser

Noah Syndergaard – The Judge

8:20
brad: The shifting time delay between the radio and ESPN feed is making me look forward to the games this year when it happens during a broadcast and one or the other is a few pitches ahead for a while

8:20
chumpy: How are the cats?  …still catting?

8:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Justinian stopped thumping away about 10 minutes ago after about 5 minutes with that damn door toy

8:20
Anonymous: i think they should have a different trophy this year, and re-create Pandemic Ball every 10 years with a 60-game sprint featuring a 16-team postseason

8:21
Avatar Dan Szymborski: What happened to not disclosing this?

8:22
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Completion

Top Nicknames for Washington Nationals Players

Juan Soto – “Pudge”

Adam LaRoche – “Toussaint”

Jeff Francoeur – “Sugartip”

Wilson Ramos – “Shrimp”

Joe Ross – “Homer.”

Ozuna – “Shrimp”

McGwire – “Mr. Someday”

8:22
Rick: Man seeing the last out by Daniel Hudson is pretty  awesome. good for him

8:22
Andrew: Just the sugartip

8:22
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t think you can really count COVID-19 as a special bit of adversity for a team since literally everybody has to deal with the exact same thing

8:23
Hire Joe Morgan?: I think Dan should respond “April” anyway to all questions.

8:23
Dodger Fan: Lightning warning. Thanks, 2020

8:23
Hire Joe Morgan?: Questions related to sample size, obviously, not tacos or whatever.  We need real answers to those.

8:23
Anonymous: BREAKING NEWS: Alex Rodriguez likes a bunt.

8:23
JaAm: Davey Martinez: “Juan Soto is asymptomatic and should rejoin the team soon”
ARod: “How will you win this season without Juan Soto?”

8:23
Commander Canteloupe: Doesn’t it seem likely prolonged indoor exposure is orders of magnitude more dangerous than any outdoor activity? For both NFL and MLB the travel seems like the dangerous part, not the game.

8:23
Anonymous: oh so THAT’S why wade was bunting

8:23
big news guy: small ball is back, everyone

8:23
5 Run Homer: Of course there’s inclement weather tonight

8:24
Tony Wolfe: had a rain delay on KBO Opening Day!

8:24
Tony Wolfe: it’s inevitable

8:24
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Top Nicknames for Washington Nationals Players

Juan Soto – Zizou, Mr. Z

Domingo Acevedo – El Nino, Freezer

Antonio Bastardo – Bleu, Ho

Timur Aduriz – Mazola, Marmol

Armando Díaz – Dawg, Zorilla

Ryne Sandberg – High Stuff

Carlos Rodon – No-Scroll, Rachio

Jayson Werth – Icky-Ticky, Voodoo

8:24
Quarantino Martinez: Zombie small ball!

8:24
Kvn: It’s DC in July what are you gonna do?

8:24
Dodger Fan: In LA.  Can confirm that Dodgers-Giants shouldn’t have inclement weather later.

8:24
Quarantino Martinez: Wait, did he just use “taking your temperature” metaphorically?

8:25
Charlie: Does Bird Law demand the Blue Jays play in Baltimore?

8:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The state of bird law in this country!

8:25
Hire Joe Morgan?: Do you think if ARod buys the Mets he’ll join their broadcast team?  That would be sad.

8:25
Dodger Fan: Does A-Rod buying the Mets force Pete Alonso to bunt?

8:26
Tony Wolfe: Hahahahaha A-Rod loves everything the rest of us hate

8:26
Tony Wolfe: it’s a good bit, honestly

8:28
Tony Wolfe: “I was texting with Mike Trout” sick brag buster

8:28
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

8:29
Tony Wolfe: wow

8:29
Guest: Haven’t watched TV for half a year. Not for moralistic reasons or anything––just got bored of it. In the middle of a pandemic I decided it might be nice and provide some relief to watch a ballgame again. It took an hour and a half for the TV to upload all the shizzle and junk it needed to upload since I left and I was like, “nuh-uh,” I’ll read FG, from here on out. I like the conversation and socialization more than I like the dingers.

8:29
Andrew: ESPN’s ball tracker thing is really quite phallic

8:29
Dodger Fan: It feels as if this bad zone has favored the Nats today

8:29
marz: ESPN Chyron just said playoffs have been expanded to 16 teams????

8:29
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yup

8:29
Avatar Dan Szymborski: For 2020

8:29
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It BETTER be only for 2020.

8:31
Avatar Dan Szymborski: If owners propose it for 2021, someone at the MLBPA ought to sit down the players and make sure it’s clear that larger playoffs means team quality is less important which means players are less valuable, which means continued downward pressure on salaries.

8:31
matt vasgersian: hey man do u have any recollection of ur career, which was one of the greatest in a dearly beloved industry

8:32
Kvn: Camera work has not been great so far…

8:32
Dodger Fan: I just imagined A-Rod and John Rocker getting into a fight over New York baseball fans

8:32
Hire Joe Morgan?: Are there any details yet on the playoff format?  Top two per division and two wild cards?  Division winners and five wild cards?  Top eight teams?

8:32
Avatar Dan Szymborski: top two per division and then the others

8:32
Tony Wolfe: We obviously haven’t played any of the season so it’s hard to say this for sure, but at least the playoff field getting expanded happened in a year in which there are 16 teams that have a reasonable playoff roster

8:33
Oddball Herrera: Ew, all second place teams automatically make the playoffs regardless of record. Which division produces a team that has no business being there? I guess…

8:33
JaAm: The most unsurprising thing is ARod being more impressed with Stanton’s opposite-field single than his 460 foot homer

8:33
Dodger Fan: @Kvn – operators had to leave posts due to weather

8:33
Tony Wolfe: If this happened in 2017 for example, there would be… four teams in the postseason with losing records? including the 77-85 Marlins?

8:33
5 Run Homer: Great players as announcers is always weird

8:33
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Morgan

8:34
Avatar Dan Szymborski: At times, Morgan seemed like he literally had no idea why he was a great player.

8:34
homealone: what is the Yankees’ BABIP as a team so far this game?

8:34
Avatar Dan Szymborski: lemme check

8:34
Kvn: @Dodger Fan – Thanks! I didn’t realize that. Have the sound off.

8:35
Avatar Dan Szymborski: .444 BABIP for the Yankees

8:35
Dodger Fan: @Kvn – That’s smart.  You’re not hearing…the “analysis”

8:35
YardGoat: Based on the ZIPS projected standings there would be 4 teams tied for the final 3 playoff spots in the NL. I’m hoping for a four-way tie at the top of the NL Central this year

8:36
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Nats Babip .000 (o for 9)

8:36
Media People: Dan, after those *controversial* comments and use of logic RE: the virus, you’ll never work in this town again!!

8:36
chumpy: When you read the name Aaron do you read it as A. A. Ron?

8:36
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I like how Aaron Blake of the WaPo is A.A. Ron Balakay

8:36
Kvn: Honestly I don’t listen to the commentary a lot anymore for most crews. Park noise feed all the way.

8:36
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I had Aaron Blair as A.A. Ron Blair in ZiPS DMB disk for a few years but it pissed people off

8:36
Media People: “You’re siding with BILLiOnaIReS”

8:37
Avatar Dan Szymborski: “Unless you’re a personal friend, that’s Williamaires to you.”

8:37
JaAm: Not surprised Kershaw has a stiff back driving around like that

8:37
Dodger Fan: Ok that was harsh, sorry A-Roid

8:37
JaAm: I don’t doubt San Diego or Arizona’s ability to have a good season but having 2 teams guaranteed out of the NL West feels wrong

8:37
Quarantino Martinez: Sanchez getting too close to the Nats dugout on that foul ball!

8:37
Fangraph’s Lurker: Here’s to losing record teams in the playoffs

8:37
Anonymous: i think it’s weird that A-Rod is getting in on the “2020 is the WORST” stuff when he’s set for life with a loving partner and a job he loves, but that’s none of my business

8:37
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Him essentially talking up the salary cap after making big money from there *not* being a saslary cap was sad

8:38
Kvn: Lol the green screen for the budlight ad wasnt keyed right for a sec and cole’s head was transparent.

8:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Like Charlie’s green shirt in Lethal Weapon 5

8:39
alex rodriguez: hey anonymous, i might lose on my bid to own an mlb team. these are tough times for everyone

8:40
Quarantino Martinez: Fake fans thought that foul ball had a chance

8:40
Wire Fan: Have they said what home road is for that first best of three playoff series?  All 3 games at higher seed?  Or 1-2 format?

8:40
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Don’t think they’ve outlined it all yet

8:40
Brian: Hello friends, you have no idea how happy I am to be back in a live baseball chat!!!!!

8:40
Guest: What is chat volume like?

8:40
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s text so it’s kinda soft

8:40
Dodger Fan: At this rate I’ll be out of laptop battery by the third inning of Cueto v. Kers—-May

8:41
Dodger Fan: Hi Brian! Welcome

8:41
MC Batcat: I think the Dodgers have a court order that keeps Angel Hernandez from entering the stadium

8:41
Kvn: Is Andrew Stevenson a contest winner or something?

8:42
Brian: That is a cool graphic of paused release points on Cole… more of that please.

8:42
marz: Jayson Stark saying that all three games of the best-of-three series will be played at the home park of the higher seed. No travel days.

8:42
Brian: Thanks, even though you are a dodgers fan!

8:42
Charlie: Game is giving off a realBetween the no crowd, two

8:43
Dodger Fan: *mutters* must be a Giants fan *sighs*

8:43
pittsburgh resident: yes let’s dunk on the pirates about cole. i haven’t heard this one before

8:43
Brian: I think the yankees should fill their stands with cutouts of the monopoly man… suggestions for other teams?

8:44
brad: Seems the radio announcers will be getting the same onscreen graphics we do from tv broadcasts. They also mentioned having two monitors, one on the bullpens

8:44
Wire Fan: Should the umpires be wearing gloves?  At least the HP ump?

8:44
Dodger Fan: *Trevor Bauer enters room*

8:44
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I love Bauer’s ability to get everyone annoyed. I wish more players were like that.

8:44
Thanks, Mo Bamba: I told you not to call me here

8:44
Brian: Is the Cleveland Eerie the best possible name for the baseball team near the lake or just an excellent one?

8:44
Fangraph’s Lurker: Personally I’d love for the marlins stadium to be full of nothing but marlin’s man cut outs

8:45
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I like going to something classic like the spiders

8:45
Wire Fan: Remember when the Pirates were considered ahead of the curve on pitching?

8:45
Dodger Fan: GREAT pitch to end the 5th

8:45
Dave: Yeah, the country is burning.  140+ thousand people are dead.  Testing for citizens is entirely inadequate in supply and speed.  28 Million are about to be evicted.  Secret Police are being deployed by the White House.  But hey, the people a little icky about providing resources to the entertainment industry are the illogical ones.

8:45
Avatar Dan Szymborski: One has nothing to do with the other. MLB did not do or cause any of these things to happen.

8:46
Avatar Dan Szymborski: This is on the level of “How dare you have a wedding while Tibet isn’t free!” It’s not connected in any way.

8:46
Avatar Dan Szymborski: MLB announcing tonight that the season is over would fix *none* of these things.

8:46
Avatar Dan Szymborski: At all, in any way whatsoever.

8:47
Kvn: Sir this is a baseball chat.

8:47
Brian: Im fine with that, I just think there is all kinds of fun macabre themes that could be had with the eerie and fog rolling in off the lake and spooky cool fireworks night themes and the like

8:47
pittsburgh resident: to wire fan: they did resurrect some guys careers i.e. aj burnett, liriano, ja happ, etc. but their development and treatment of guys that actually had talent was trash

8:47
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I just don’t like abstract team mascot names.

8:47
Thanks, Mo Bamba: y’all, the ball is juiced and it will make this more fun

8:48
Kvn: The Cleveland Wet Sox

8:48
Tony Wolfe: gross

8:48
Wire Fan: So down on the Seattle Krakens (NHL)?

8:48
Avatar Dan Szymborski: krakens aren’t abstract

8:48
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I like krakens!

8:48
Avatar Dan Szymborski: or kraken

8:48
Guest: No streakers this year

8:48
Guest: But it’s a Kraken singular

8:48
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But it’s a thing

8:48
Brian: A spider playing baseball is not abstract?!? I am of course joking, I also just really like bad puns.

8:48
Dodger Fan: The Cleveland Clevelanders! 😐

8:49
MSW: Seattle Karens

8:49
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The Cleveland Ennui

8:49
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Can they steal Lake Monsters from Vermont?

8:49
Jorge Posadism: Gary Sanchez and swinging at down and away sliders…

8:49
Guest2: The Cleveland Old Ones

8:49
Dodger Fan: I should probably open that booing app just for Manfred

8:49
Brian: I also like the Cleveland landers

8:49
JaAm: What is the consensus on number team names (76ers, 49ers)

8:50
Dodger Fan: Rename the city to Cleve, call the team the Landers

8:50
Tony Wolfe: 51s!

8:50
Tony Wolfe: I love number names

8:50
Wire Fan: The Cleveland baseball team.   CBT is a good baseball acronym.

8:50
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I suspect all three letter abbreviations have been taken by SOMEthing horrible

8:50
Brian: although with landers the astros kinda have the space theme already

8:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The Astros barely use the space theme.

8:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski: There wasn’t anything even techy about their cheating. I mean, trash can banging?

8:51
JaAm: You liked the Utah Jazz and St. Louis Blues, now get ready for the Cleveland Trap!

8:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski: “..and also whatever nonsense I make up in the next 24 hours.”

8:51
Andrew: The Cleveland Rocks!

8:51
YardGoat: This expanded playoff format was so slapdash that the announcers don’t even know what the deal is

8:52
marz: Manfred says it’s straight-up seeded playoffs, no byes. 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, etc.

8:52
Dave: Tibet being free has absolutely nothing to do with allocation of scarce resources.

8:52
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Nor does this.

8:53
Tom: Rain delay for the season starter is very fitting.

8:53
Avatar Dan Szymborski: NO LEAVE ROB OUT THERE

8:53
YardGoat: How often do you think Manfred watches a full baseball game beginning to end?

8:53
Tony Wolfe: ah crabapples

8:54
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He usually leaves before the ninth quarter is done, no matter who has more points.

8:54
Guest:

8:54
Dodger Fan: MLB is just copying the KBO

8:54
Sgt. Pepper: I’m very concerned about baseball being played in the middle of a pandemic which is why I’m going to watch a baseball game and also participate in a baseball live chat on a site for baseball nerds.

8:54
Avatar Dan Szymborski: By chatting here, you’ve delayed the vaccine by months!

8:54
Brian CashGod: That groundskeeper lmfao

8:56
This is lude-i-cris: My kid made me rewind so we could laugh at him trying to run again

8:56
chumpy: off of the top of your head, what do you know about Dustin May?

8:57
Avatar Dan Szymborski: His mom used to have a tv show

8:57
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

8:57
Kvn: Red hair

8:57
Guest: red hair

8:57
Brian: Sgt. Pepper is a hypocrite and so am I, although I am actively also participating in an anti baseball chat.

8:57
Wire Fan: Was Jose Quintana’s IL related to him cutting himself washing dishes?

8:57
JaAm: I know Dustin May is now the face of redhead baseball players, and that’s all I need to know

8:57
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I tore my wrist tripping over a cat

8:58
Daniel: He can eat 30 hotdogs in 7 min

8:58
Avatar Dan Szymborski: slidery thing, throws hard

8:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think his slider moves like a knuckle curve but I got shouted down when I suggested that

8:59
Dodger Fan: Dustin May would prefer not to be compared to Noah Syndergaard (which is…kinda a fair one to make) and thus dislikes the nickname “Gingergaard”

8:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The Gingergaard sounds like Carrot Top’s shock troopers

8:59
Quarantino Martinez: The Cleveland Cuyahoga! And once a year you set the mascot on fire.

9:00
Avatar Dan Szymborski: You sir, have just written the next Wicker Man remake.

9:00
Brian CashGod: Nats Park scoreboard says “Please Exit the Seating Bowl” because of the thunderstorm…mission accomplished?

9:00
Dave K: With the playoff expansion today. Does this make the Yankees, Astros and Dodgers locks into the postseason? Or as much as locks can be?

9:00
kevinthecomic: Oh good, rain delay means more A-Rod!!

9:00
Dodger Fan: Could this chat let me know when we are close to resuming so that I may return to the TV?

9:00
Zack: There will be no rain delay during the nightcap.

9:00
Brian: Does this mean we can refer to the trump gestapo as the Cheeto’s brigade?

9:01
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Cheetoh Bandito

9:01
Guest: All mascots should be set on fire once a year. For a new mascot to arise from the ashes like a Phoenix. Except the Phillie Phantic whom will remain unburned much like Daenerys from Game of Thrones

9:01
Tony Wolfe: Speaking very charitably about randomness of a shortened season, I’d say the Astros are more likely to finish third in their division than the Yankees and Dodgers?

9:01
Guest: Not the bees!

9:01
Tony Wolfe: but yeah, they’re in

9:01
JaAm: Vasgersian just said “exotic stats” and I think the should catch on

9:01
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Makes my job sound sexier

9:01
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Oil me up, here come the EXOTIC stats.

9:01
Dodger Fan: Yeah I’m in LA, as the username would suggest.  Beautiful day here

9:01
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The username suggests your fandom, your location is only partially correlated!

9:02
Guest: Did Vasgersian just use the word “union” to arod??? Beef???

9:02
Tom: While others might think exotic stats such as 10+ K’s in consecutive opening games is what makes baseball interesting, to me, it sounds more like cherrypicking numbers without full understanding of the changes in baseball throughout era.

9:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: gravity-adjusted vertical movement <rubs oil into chest hair>

9:03
Ryan: Seattle is going with the Kraken for the name of its NHL franchise.  Is this easily the best sports news of 2020?

9:03
This is lude-i-cris: Its likely the Phillie Phanatic will accidentally set himself on fire at some point

9:03
Guest: A-Rod is an owner calling him a union member is hate speech

9:03
Thanks, Mo Bamba: Dustin May’s leg kick is great to play during your favorite Bronson Arroyo guitar solo

9:04
dave k: Stats are just social constructs humans created to keep track of stuff

9:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Just try to forgot Bronson Arroyo’s corn rows phase

9:04
Tony Wolfe: poor buster’s just hiding by himself somewhere

9:04
Dodger Fan: Dustin May used to do a squat before each pitch from the stretch

9:04
Dodger Fan: He stopped it during intrasquads, sadly

9:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: “Hey, Dustin, we’d kinda like you to not wear out your knees by the second year of your career.”

9:05
Dodger Fan: Tony, don’t say poor Buster!  He texted Mike Trout earlier…

9:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I have buster’s number but not trout’s. Maybe I should keep texting buster and hope I get included on a Trout group text

9:05
JaAm: I know Mustin Day is not a real day yet

9:05
chumpy: What is your favorite non-swear word/phrase for surprise/exasperation?

9:06
Avatar Dan Szymborski: “Crap on a bicycle!”

9:06
Dodger Fan: May Day! May Day!

9:06
YardGoat: Buster is texting Mike Trout for weather updates

9:06
ClippardHOF: Well he is a weatherman

9:07
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s in a “weather” delay. They can’t call it a rain delay?

9:07
Wire Fan: The drainage in the stands in the park does not seem all that great…

9:07
Hells Bells: The Padres’ manager explicitly said he plan to Not be creative with his management/roster construction this year. Why isn’t it the priority of every club to be mentioned amongst the Rays, A’s, Astros, and Dodgers as the most creative/efficient at maximizing results?

9:08
dave k: truly the PC police have won if we can’t say rain delay

9:08
Tony Wolfe: the sicko libs have “cancelled” rain

9:08
Avatar Dan Szymborski: lol

9:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Someone really shoudl tell A-Rod that Yoenis Cespedes isn’t a superstar

9:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Nor does Robinson Cano texting you to tell you they have great chemistry isn’t actually evidence of anything.

9:09
Tom: so much terrible takes in such a short time… Cespedes is the superstar Mets need…. Astros are a sleeper…

9:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I swear he was SO much better when he was doing this occasionally at the end of his career

9:10
Tony Wolfe: astros being a sleeper is an incredible take

9:10
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Don’t sleep on that team that won 107 games last year

9:10
dave k: Imagine losing the World Series and being a sleeper the next season

9:10
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Razzed by crazy A’s fans? Matt hasn’t seen an A’s game since 1989.

9:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: “Which team is an underdog. Don’t say the Dodgers”

9:12
Tony Wolfe: “who else is good in the nl. please do not be obvious.” “………… the defending NL east champions”

9:12
Avatar Dan Szymborski: So the average A-Rod sleeper pick won 102 games last year

9:12
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Hey A-Rod, who’s a real sleeper in the AL Cy Young race?

9:12
dave k: Arent the Dodgers the MOST underdog?

9:12
JaAm: Royals could be buyers talk on national TV, nature is healing

9:13
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

“Hey A-Rod, how about a deep sleeper for the AL Cy Young?”

“Well, the Yankees picked up this pitcher Gerrit Cole who might be in for a big year. Tyler Wade texted me to let me know that Gary Sanchez has fallen for his bedroom eyes. We’ll know for sure the first 20 pitches.”

24 Jul 2020
9:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Sorry, tweetin ga littlet too

9:14
Dodger Fan: Calling the Astros an underdog is like saying Javier Báez has good plate discipline

9:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: You know who might surprise and have a big power year? Pete Alonso. You heard it here first.

9:15
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I kinda miss Harold Reynolds at this point.

9:15
dave k: Liar

9:15
Dodger Fan: John Smoltz is almost appealing right now

9:16
JaAm: “Buster is safe…he’s standing out in the outfield getting absolutely drenched right now as you can see on camera”

9:17
dave k: Wouldnt Dodger Stadium look the same if fans were allowed there or not? #rimshot

9:17
dave k: I dont want to alarm anyone but we are close to McGarver territory and I’m scared

9:17
Guest: Dodgers only predicted to win 38 games in 2020 = underdog.

9:17
Wire Fan: Percentage of starts by a starter apparently changes with season length?  ARod having a rough night.

9:17
dave k: Player starting 12 games instead of 32 is more important.

9:19
dave k: Has any team ever won a World Series after dropping in wins by 65?

9:19
Avatar Dan Szymborski: heh

9:19
Avatar Dan Szymborski: maybe once we have our 30 team playoffs!

9:19
Quarantino Martinez: They’re going to do a 29 team playoff, just to laugh at the Orioles…

9:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Or 30 teams. The O’s show up and the commish tells them “Oh, the last spot is for the NPB champs, not you guys.”

9:20
Wire Fan: So they are going to play this to completion this year and not just call the game over since they got 5 innings in?

9:21
Kvn: MLB deserves the O’s making the playoffs

9:21
Guest: Chris Davis WS MVP

9:21
dave k: Kurkjian is making a strong play against ARod for uselessness in commentating

9:22
Tony Wolfe: Richie Martin walk-off to clinch a series

9:22
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Uh, is Tim’s audio out of sync or am I having a stroke?

9:22
Dodger Fan: Hunter Harvey getting a game 7 save?

9:22
Avatar Dan Szymborski: haha, like he still exists

9:22
P: The sudden death wild card games were my favorite games to watch each year as long as my team wasn’t involved. I’m going to miss that.

9:22
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The Orioles accidentally killed Harvey with some groundskeeping equipment and they just put him on the IL every year hoping nobody finds out

9:23
homealone: there’s gonna be an earthquake in the fourth or so inning in LA tonight, isn’t there

9:23
Dodger Fan: For a team that I suspect will have easily made the playoffs and won the division, a three-game series to advance is just grossly unfair.

9:24
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t like questions that are specifically posed to try to trip them up

9:24
Avatar Dan Szymborski: to players

9:24
Aspergilius fumigatus: With regards to the Soto news, why aren’t there more stringent guidelines regarding distancing between players on the same team? I get that it is very hard to do, but this seems like the best way to mitigate risk. Or else teams are risking a huge outbreak and subsequent disaster when they face an opponent

9:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think they’re being a bit lax.

9:25
Brian: Lindor, over or under Betts contract?

9:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: As of right now, it would be over, but a lot can happen in two seasons

9:25
Dodger Fan: Under

9:25
remember when guy: remember when one of the mlb was adamant that the playoffs had to end before november in their negotiations with mlbpa

9:25
Guest: Def under

9:26
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I like that he did the kaboom sound

9:26
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’ll do a poll for Lindor! More efficient

9:26
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

Who Wins This Game?

Yankees (41.7% | 28 votes)
 
Nationals (2.9% | 2 votes)
 
Us When It’s Over and We Don’t Have to See Angel Hernandez Any More Tonight (55.2% | 37 votes)
 

Total Votes: 67
9:26
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I never started that poll

9:27
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

What Does Francisco Lindor Get In His Next Contract?

<$300 Million (20.2% | 14 votes)
 
$300 Million to Betts (50.7% | 35 votes)
 
Above Betts to $400 Million (27.5% | 19 votes)
 
>$400 Million (1.4% | 1 vote)
 

Total Votes: 69
9:28
Boof bonser: If mlb just wants endless tacky media events why not make it a 17-team playoff and the extra team is made up entirely of dogs?

9:28
Wire Fan: All time great lineup with the Betts,,  Bellinger’s and…. Buehler’s (who must have a sneaky good bat?)

9:28
Dodger Fan: And somehow it’ll be Kershaw’s fault again

9:28
dave k: @homealone it wont be an earthquake. the sprinkler system will go off

9:29
Dodger Fan: A satellite will fall out of the sky and blow up Chavez Ravine

9:29
Wire Fan: Dave Roberts can always just move Kershaw to the bullpen.  He seems to like that.

9:29
dave k: Betts will catch it

9:31
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

9:31
Dodger Fan: Pabo

9:31
Avatar Dan Szymborski: This was some of my best work and damn you people who don’t get it!

9:31
Dodger Fan: Sandoval

9:31
Dodger Fan: is

9:31
Dodger Fan: batting

9:31
Dodger Fan: third

9:31
Guest: Finally, Dan makes a funny image

9:32
dave k: Giants have to rebuild, will be bad. This has never happened to any team ever in the history of baseball

9:32
ben: Next player to exceed Betts’s contract?

9:33
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Outside Lindor which you guys mostly don’t agree with, I don’t see anyone on the horizon

9:33
Dodger Fan: Dan if I’m ever on trial for a sandwich-related crime, you’re my lawyer’s first call as a witness

9:33
Dodger Fan: I would say Acuña but…

9:33
Avatar Dan Szymborski: And then you look at the Albies deal and feel worse

9:33
Kvn: Does skittles really want to be associated with rain delays?

9:34
Wire Fan: Bellinger?  Still about 5 years out…

9:34
JaAm: Delay the rainbow

9:34
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I really want to murder the lady in that Geico commercial

9:34
Quarantino Martinez: Too bad they cut off when they did. Could’ve done a whole “Tyler Wade in the Water” bit…

9:34
YardGoat: Juan Soto will get a big deal

9:34
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He’s awhile away though

9:35
Avatar Dan Szymborski: 5 yrs to FA and won’t get more than Betts with cost-controlled years in there

9:35
Dodger Fan: Maybe it’ll be the rockies giving Corey Kluber $500 million to start in left field

9:35
dave k: if he does it again Pete Alsono

9:36
Tony Wolfe: I might be more curious about how many of the current stars even get as close to free agency as Mookie did, with how popular extensions have gotten

9:36
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m a little concernerd about this commercial for “authentic” medication

9:36
Dodger Fan: Wander Franco?

9:36
JaAm: Gleyber? Probably a stretch but there is nothing obvious

9:36
Tom: Alonso is going to be closer to Goldschmidt than Betts due to his age.

9:36
Tony Wolfe: Obviously Lindor will, but

9:36
Guest: Judge is too old I suppose

9:36
Guest: Judge?

9:37
casual observer: alonso is simultaneously 25 years old and 40 years old

9:37
JaAm: It’ll just be Trout probably

9:37
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Jeff Francoeur would have swung at that Fauci pitch.

9:37
Dakota mckee: Why didnt more teams put a pinch runner type on their expanded roster? Or did they do that and I just wasnt paying attention?

9:37
Avatar Dan Szymborski: A lot do have a guy like that around

9:37
Matt: that was awful I apologize

9:37
Matt: Smashing Claytons-“Zero (Rings)”

9:38
Dodger Fan: Terrance Gore is on the LAD roster

9:38
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Billy hamilton, though not brought on FOR that purpose

9:38
Guest: Andrew Stevenson is the Nats’ PR guy?

9:38
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Tyler Wade since I’ve been told he runs like a wide receiver

9:39
dave k: I’ve been wondering about this all day… what if someone hits 400 this year? are we gonna act like it counts? will they asterisk it in the record boooks?

9:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: There won’t be an official asterisk, but there’ll always be one in our hearts

9:39
JaAm: Cliff Lee is still on the market for teams looking for a pinch runner

9:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: BARTOLO PINCH RUNNER

9:39
Dodger Fan: I will personally be asterisking records, but probably not the WS champion

9:40
Tom: I wonder how much will a 39 year old Mike Trout fetch in 2031? (assuming MLB still exists)

9:40
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I mean, is being humble *really* what makes someone into a baseball player? Is that what you *really* think?

9:40
Dodger Fan: Everyone played with the same circumstances

9:40
dave k: well MLB will be making 25 billion a year so his 515m contract isnt as impressive

9:40
Smiling Politely: Dan I just logged into the chat and I’ve been reading through…that Mellon Collie and the Infinite Curveball image is amazing and heartbreaking, just like William Corgan, Jr.

9:41
Avatar Dan Szymborski: See, SOMEONE is amused by me and I swear that’s not a burner question.

9:41
Guest: Was just thinking about how Chris Sale called Adam laroche’s son a leader in their clubhouse

9:41
dave k: The championship ring is still gonna shine the same as a 162 season winner

9:41
Guest: the WS chmpion is always asterisked given the nature of playoffs. Why not just have no divisions, everyone plays everyone else six times (three home, three away)?

9:41
JaAm: New 2020 rule: courtesy runners for catchers

9:42
Dodger Fan: But the trophy is just a piece of metal, guys!

9:42
dave k: Adam LaRoches son is the next 500m player

9:42
Avatar Dan Szymborski: that’s MR DRAKE LaRoche to you, peasant

9:42
dave k: ESPN doesnt know who else to put as the face of the giants. They just alked about Longoria not playing

9:42
pittsburgh resident: now laroche appears in the chat, it never ends

9:43
JaAm: ARod signs himself to his 3rd record contract as owner of the Mets

9:43
Tony Wolfe: I’m really damn excited to see Johnny Cueto make an OD start again

9:43
dave k: so will they play this game at 2 am?

9:43
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Bud Selig is still paid $6 million a year

9:43
Andrew G.: Tony, big fan. I’ve got a two parter for ya. Firstly, what does it say about Joey Votto that he has zero playoff series wins in his career? Secondly, who are your darkhorse Cy Young candidates? Thanks, T-Man.

9:44
Tony Wolfe: come on man

9:44
Tony Wolfe: clevinger and castillo are getting Cys though

9:44
Dodger Fan: I recently graduated from the Alex Rodriguez School of Baseball Analysis, and Jacob deGrom is my dark horse Cy Young pick.

9:44
Andrew G.: i’m serious about the second one

9:45
Wire Fan: I think the runner at 2nd in the 10th inning rule should be modified to allow the opposing team to pick the runner

9:45
Dodger Fan: Clevinger doesn’t deserve to be a dark horse.  He’s so freaking underrated.

9:46
Tony Wolfe: yeah those two are only really dark horses in that they aren’t Cole/deGrom

9:46
Guest: Have either of you been in MLB clubhouses? Is there any way it’s an appropriate environment for a kid, or is my vision of clubhouses just colored by the worst parts of ball four, etc

9:46
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I have been. It’s not super exciting sinc ea bunch of writers are around

9:47
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m not in there very often though. Beat writers are working to get their quotes and the like and if I need someone, I can get in touch with someone

9:47
Aspergilius fumigatus: Has anyone else seen A-Rod’s tweet of him playing Connect-4, but just completely incorrectly? It’s sooo ~not~ how you play Connect-4 that I had a visceral reaction to the photo

9:47
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Wait, I have no tseen that

9:47
dave k: by TEXTING?

9:47
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I very rarely talk to players about actual baseball. I’d make a terrible reporter lol

9:48
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I probably spend half the time arguing with their agents

9:48
Aspergilius fumigatus: A-Rod connect-4 tweet:

For a guy who swung and missed as often as I did, connecting on four in a row can be a challenge sometimes. 🤣🤣

Still, games like this help keep our minds sharp and focused and can be great fun for the whole family.

What’s your go-to game? Text it to me at (305) 690-0485

30 Apr 2020
9:48
dave k: ARod sets the pieces on fire?

9:48
Dodger Fan: Please send this tweet as I am too lazy to open a new tab and google it.

9:49
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t understand what’s going on in this picture!

9:49
dave k: WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS PICTURE

9:49
Aspergilius fumigatus: Also, like, is he doing ads for Connect-4? So confused

9:50
Tony Wolfe: that picture is completely insane

9:50
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Tony, it’s insane on like five or six different levels

9:50
dave k: This is like someone took pictures at 2 different times and super imposed the board

9:50
dave k: this picture alone is enough to NOT let him own a baseball team

9:50
Brian: also Connect 4 is a solved game, if you have the first move you cannot lose!

9:50
Avatar Dan Szymborski: A-Rod solved it. You always win if you play by yourself\

9:50
JaAm: How could you possibly take a picture of connect 4 that is less like how you actually play

9:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’d love to see a whole series of professionally shot photographs of A-Rod misplaying board games.

9:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski: They show him playing Monopoly and he has 20 hotels on one property and he’s accumulated three tokens.

9:51
dave k: Arod wearing the Sorry board as a hat

9:51
Tony Wolfe: bug-eyed in a dark room playing mouse trap

9:52
Guest: Looks like a stock photo

9:52
Avatar Dan Szymborski: A-Rod playing backgammon with the doubling cube and moving 64 spaces

9:52
Ben Clemens: Hey what’s up guys

9:52
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Hey Ben!

9:52
Tony Wolfe: ben!

9:52
Eric A Longenhagen: Howdy howdy

9:52
Ben Clemens: Gonna be chatting the late game, and got here a little early

9:52
Ben Clemens: By here, I mean my couch

9:52
Brian: Chess with a knight on any 4 or 5 square in the first move

9:52
Dodger Fan: BEN

9:52
Brian: HI BEN

9:52
Guest: Bennnnnnn!

9:52
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Scroll up. Did you ever see the image of A-Rod playing COnnect Four?

9:52
Guest: You don’t want to know Ben

9:52
Ben Clemens: Oh yeah I’ve seen it

9:52
Ben Clemens: It’s truly excellent

9:53
Guest: Ben is your mom joining?

9:53
JaAm: ARod wanted a game that would be a good message for connecting with family and so he chose Connect 4 based on it saying “Connect” on the box

9:53
Ben Clemens: Maybe! She’s a Nats fan

9:53
Dakota mckee: You think he’s playing connect 4 but arod is actually playing 4d chess

9:53
Guest: Battleship with all the pegs in the holes with no ships

9:53
Ben Clemens: And was 100% watching earlier

9:53
dave k: Arod rolling dice playing monopoly

9:53
Tony Wolfe: dying at the battleship one

9:53
Ben Clemens: I sent her a pitching ninja gif of the Fauci first pitch

9:53
Avatar Dan Szymborski: This is the least threatening lineup to have this music.

9:53
Ben Clemens: Boy was that bad

9:53
Ben Clemens: Clubbed to Extremely Slight Injury

9:54
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Jepsen’s was still worse

9:54
dave k: thats suppose to be candyland… i’m a moron

9:54
i stan ben: oh heck yeah, what’s up ben

9:54
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The people are just too big which makes it really creepy.

9:54
Ben Clemens: Bold user name choice

9:55
Avatar Dan Szymborski: See, I just get disappointed sighs when people see it’s just me.

9:55
Tony Wolfe: let. johnny. ride. to. the. mound. on. his. horse.

9:55
Ben Clemens: It’s a pretty weird choice to use Hip Hop is Dead but leave out the chorus, which is probably my favorite part

9:55
i stan ben: i’ll be honest it hasn’t paid off until just now

9:55
Guest: “I always battled in the box, so sometimes now I like to play a round of battleship with my family to keep us in good health”

9:55
Ben Clemens: “Baseball reference!”

9:55
Avatar Dan Szymborski: These people cardboard cutouts are weirdly scaled

9:55
Avatar Dan Szymborski: There’s like this GIANT toddler lurking behind Bellinger

9:56
Tony Wolfe: where are the dog cutouts

9:56
Tony Wolfe: I was told there’d be dog cutouts

9:56
Ben Clemens: Tony my wife is trying to get the Giants to let us buy a dog cutout

9:56
Tony Wolfe: YES

9:56
Ben Clemens: And they’ve been conspicuously silent

9:56
Ben Clemens: It’s aggravating

9:56
Tony Wolfe: ah man

9:57
Guest: How much does it cost Ben?

9:57
Ben Clemens: Honestly I don’t remember. We never got that far. The Dodgers one is like, what, 100 bucks?

9:58
Brian: BLACK LIVES MATTER!!!

9:58
Derek: Baseball needs more Morgan Freeman

9:58
Guest: Are there fresh cutouts every game or are they season-ticket holder cutouts?

9:58
JaAm: The Giants are also 100 bucks

9:59
Ben Clemens: I’ll be honest, it’s a stupid purchase, but I’m a sucker when it comes to Ruby, and also they let you pick it up, authenticate it, and take it home as game-used after the season

9:59
ben: Does the $100 go to charity? If not it’s a little weird.

9:59
Ben Clemens: Ha! We’ve got jokes tonight.

9:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Wait, did he say six continents? Who’s the Australian I’m forgetting?

9:59
Ben Clemens: Definitely not

9:59
Brian: only 6 continents… they left out Antarctica… Is that because its only white!!! I smell conspiracy!

9:59
YardGoat: Everyone said hi to Ben, but did anyone say hello to Eric?

10:00
Brian: Joking aside, that was well done and Dodgers fan should deservedly be proud of his team.

10:01
Dodger Fan: I am proud

10:01
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Sandoval’s just stuck

10:01
Guest: Good for mookie

10:01
Avatar Jay Jaffe: hey folks!

10:02
Ben Clemens: I’m really psyched for Mookie the Dodger, to be honest

10:02
Guest: JAYYYYYYYY

10:02
Guest: Hello Jay

10:02
Guest: WE LOVE YOU TOO JAY

10:02
i stan jay: on god

10:02
Avatar Jay Jaffe: i just flew in from the other end of my apartment and boy are my arms tired

10:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Hey Jay!

10:02
Derek: Dan I’m assuming the six continents thing is MLB-wide: Liam Hendriks I think is the only one

10:02
Derek: Oh and that Thorpe guy for the Twins! I remember seeing him in OOTP

10:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yeah, I was wondering if there was just an Aussie here I forgot about

10:03
Brian: Jay are you just trying to steal Eric’s thunder?

10:03
Tony Wolfe: at least one Jay has a home

10:03
Avatar Jay Jaffe: Does Eric have thunder? I would never interfere with another man’s thunder.

10:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: OK gang, the 10 PM crew is here and I’m sure you want to talk to them rather than listening to me after three hours, so I shall bid you all adieu!

10:04
Anonymous: good night dan. your service to the chat was tolerated.

10:04
Guest: you owe us two songs dan

10:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: No, I don’t owe songs for group chats, only for personal chats!

10:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I will do Mr. Belvedere next week.

10:04
Tony Wolfe: I’m off as well, but will be back tomorrow around this time

10:04
Avatar Jay Jaffe: good night, Dan and Tony!

10:04
Ben Clemens: Cya guys!

10:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yup, back tomorrow!

10:04
Guest: BYE TONY

10:04
Derek: I miss Mookie the Red So(x/ck)

10:05
Ben Clemens: Well that too. Just, more Mookie please

10:05
i stan eric: eric you didn’t have a fancy picture like the others so i missed yr entrance, but glad you’re here! also goodnight tony and dan

10:06
Eric A Longenhagen: thanks, chat.

10:06
ben: Asked this of the last group: Who’s the next player to exceed Bett’s contract?

10:06
Ben Clemens: Right on the hot seat right at the beginning

10:06
Avatar Jay Jaffe: I was really looking forward to some Clayton Kershaw tonight. That scratch is a big bummer, but I’m excited to see Dustin May, too. I briefly got to swap messages with FG alum Josh Herzenberg, who was the scout who signed May. He wrote about it last fall https://blogs.fangraphs.com/called-up-dustin-may/

10:07
Ben Clemens: “This is a lineup where you’re not going to recognize all those names” is an excellent way to cover up for the fact that literally Kurkjian doesn’t recognize the names

10:07
Avatar Jay Jaffe: Lindor is the easy answer to that question re: Betts

10:07
Eric A Longenhagen: agreed, Lindor

10:07
Avatar Jay Jaffe: (I don’t know if he will, but if anybody on the scene will, it’s him)

10:07
Ben Clemens: Can I take the field? Like players not currently in pro ball?

10:07
Ben Clemens: I’m really down on big long-term deals post-COVID

10:07
Ben Clemens: That might be a weird way to say it

10:08
Ben Clemens: I think that teams are going to be really hesitant to hand them out

10:08
Avatar Jay Jaffe: the other guy i think has a shot is Gleyber – who isn’t the player Lindor is, but, um, plays for the team with the money

10:08
Brian: The previous consensus was Bellinger. People dont think Lindor will do that well. I dissagree.

10:09
Avatar Jay Jaffe: I think a lot of Bellinger’s chance depends on whether he can continue to carry RF or CF for awhile

10:10
Eric A Longenhagen: I now have the spanish commentary on because I hit my cliche quote for the day.

10:10
Ben Clemens: Tonight’s first beer will also very likely be tonight’s last beer: a 32 oz crowler from Bare Bottle Brewing here in SF

10:10
Ben Clemens: Amusingly, it’s called Slam Adams

10:10
Ben Clemens: Nice light lager

10:11
homealone: production values on point, missing the first plate appearance entirely

10:11
Aspergilius fumigatus: HOW DO YOU MISS THE FIRST PITCH ESPN

10:11
Ben Clemens: But the ads!

10:12
Avatar Jay Jaffe: I’m going to hold off on the beer for a bit since i am already past my pitch count…

10:12
Ben Clemens: The May sinker is going to replace the Jordan Hicks sinker for me as the most visually pleasing fastball in baseball

10:12
Ben Clemens: The little wiggle is just so fun tow atch

10:12
Avatar Jay Jaffe: (not beer-wise, typing-wise)

10:12
Guest: Arod: “to me, and this may be controversial, but the second batter of the game is the next best batter to start the game with!”

10:12
Ben Clemens: It’s way better to start the game with an even batter than with an odd batter

10:13
Avatar Jay Jaffe: i have a n overtired 3 1/2 year old doing play by play for a completely different game in the background

10:13
Ben Clemens: There isn’t much I’d like to see A-Rod announce

10:14
Eric A Longenhagen: He’s in the uncanny valley

10:13
Ben Clemens: But given tonight’s obsession with small ball, I’d love to hear what he said there

10:14
Ben Clemens: A-Rod coming out against framing

10:14
Ben Clemens: Because in the playoffs small ball matters

10:14
Ben Clemens: was just like

10:14
Ben Clemens: bro what

10:14
Avatar Jay Jaffe:

Alex Rodriguez waxing philosophical about smallball is far too high a price to pay for playing baseball during a pandemic
24 Jul 2020
10:14
Brian: Does May really sit 98?

10:14
Ben Clemens: Eh

10:14
Ben Clemens: Would you accept 97?

10:14
Dodger Fan: May sits 96-97

10:14
Ben Clemens: Yeah

10:14
Eric A Longenhagen: This is more than last year, even across the whole minor league season. https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board/2020-in-season-prospect-…

10:15
Ben Clemens: Dang Eric, all over it

10:15
Avatar Jay Jaffe: I am curious given the introduction of Hawk-Eye how seriously we should be taking velo readings right now

10:15
Ben Clemens: He looked a lot like this in his major league time last year; Statcast had him 96 mph average

10:16
Guest: Marlins man should buy as many cutouts as possible in all stadiums just to troll the hell out of us

10:16
Ben Clemens: Counterpoint: no

10:17
Guest: Holy shit pence is back on the giants?

10:17
Ben Clemens: Haha yeah they are running it back, I love it

10:18
Ben Clemens: It’s interesting, I’d expect a team with playoff aspirations to bring Pence in and see if last year was real

10:19
Ben Clemens: But he probably projected to sell a lot of tickets for the Giants

10:19
Ben Clemens: I can tell you that excitement in the bay area was HIGH for him coming back

10:19
Ben Clemens: And not just from various Magic the Gathering players I know who hoped he would pop into their stores

10:20
Eric A Longenhagen: in-store play is a distant memory now

10:19
Dodger Fan: They better pump in an enormous ovation for Betts

10:19
Ben Clemens: I mean they have fans in the stands before the second inning

10:20
Ben Clemens: So they’re clearly not playing this like it’s real-life Dodgers Stadium

10:20
Dodger Fan: Ouch

10:20
Ben Clemens: I kid

10:21
Ben Clemens: I’m mainly interested in the dog section

10:21
Avatar Jay Jaffe: that was nasty from Cueto

10:21
JaAm: By what year of his deal does Mookie commit to being bald

10:21
Ben Clemens: He does have a bit of Lebron-before-giving-up to his hairline

10:22
Kai John: I’ll be happy if the aging curve is the same.

10:23
Ben Clemens: Haha yes when someone compares you to Lebron, that’s a good sign

10:23
Brian: We all want LeBrons aging curve

10:23
Ben Clemens: LeBron is my age

10:23
Ben Clemens: And let me tell you, yeah

10:24
Dakota mckee: Could we see more in the stands catches with only cardboard fans as obstacles?

10:24
Ben Clemens: Oh, probably!

10:24
Ben Clemens: I mean, only in a very narrow way, because not that many balls are in that exact zone

10:24
Ben Clemens: but yeah

10:24
Wire Fan: That cueto delivery is AWESOME!

10:25
Avatar Jay Jaffe: He’s got a bunch of different ones. So much fun to watch

10:25
Guest: Should more pitchers adopt the varied windups like cueto? Or is finding a delivery hard enough without worrying about deception?

10:25
Ben Clemens: Would love to hear Eric’s take on this

10:25
Eric A Longenhagen: It’s more prevalent now among young pitching than when I started out. They don’t always go about it correctly

10:25
Ben Clemens: That’s my assumption. Cueto is just a freak when it comes to repeating the core parts with so much window dressing

10:25
Avatar Jay Jaffe: I have to think it’s tough to keep your mechanics right when you’ve got so many different looks

10:25
Avatar Jay Jaffe: He is our Luis Tiant

10:26
Eric A Longenhagen:

From Friday evening, here’s Ethan Small varying his timing.
29 Jul 2019
10:26
Ben Clemens: He’s not small, though. I feel deceived.

10:27
Derek: Even with a healthy Kershaw, the Dodgers rotation is the obvious weakness to their team, right?

10:27
Ben Clemens: Pretty sure their weakness is the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune

10:27
Guest: ESPN was late coming back from commercial again. Ack.

10:27
Eric A Longenhagen: the mouse wants his money

10:27
Avatar Jay Jaffe: I’m more worried about the Dodgers’ bullpen than their rotation. Depth and young arms galore. Buehler, Urias, May, Gonsolin…

10:27
Ben Clemens: The Dodgers go about 10 deep in good starting pitchers

10:28
Eel Ffilc: And May is pitching in July, last names are not to be trusted like that Ben.

10:28
This is lude-i-cris: Huh? The Dodgers are already down two of their original starting five and we still recognize all five in the rotation. They’re fine!

10:28
Ben Clemens: Yeah I mean, you could argue the bullpen is a weakness

10:29
Dodger Fan: It’s a relative weakness

10:29
Ben Clemens: Yeah

10:29
Ben Clemens: It’s still good, but I would say it’s the weakest part of the team

10:29
Eel Ffilc: I mean! Drink!

10:29
Ben Clemens: Challenge accepted

10:29
Derek: Fair. The Dodgers rotation is good. I guess just in comparison to their lineup it doesn’t seem quite as infallible

10:29
Steve Rasch: Less worried about Dodgers starting 5 than I am about everyone else in the bullpen

10:30
Avatar Jay Jaffe: Treinin and Graterol should help but the real question is can Kenley get back to being the Kenley Jansen of a few years ago

10:31
Eric A Longenhagen: Cutter was sitting 88-92 during camp

10:30
Avatar Jay Jaffe: and let’s not even talk about Joe Kelly

10:30
Ben Clemens: May not being in the bullpen will be a downgrade, but you know? Not the worst downgrade to move your impact reliever to an impact starter

10:31
Ben Clemens:

Empty seats or cardboard fans?

Empty seats (31.6% | 25 votes)
 
Cardboard fans (68.3% | 54 votes)
 

Total Votes: 79
10:32
Dodger Fan: Oh hey they didn’t miss a pitch

10:32
Ben Clemens: Cueto just kept wiggling until the commercial finished

10:32
Avatar Jay Jaffe: what no choice for Fox football robots doing the wave?

10:32
This is lude-i-cris: They only miss pictures with the rebuilding team is up

10:32
Ben Clemens: Yeah but I want to see May pitch!

10:33
Derek: I feel more strongly about no fake fan noise. It’s very off-putting to me and legitimately distracting. Maybe it’s just the dissonance it causes – like, I *know* there no fans there so why can I hear them??

10:33
Ben Clemens: Every May pitch they don’t show is one time I don’t get to see that sinker

10:33
Eric A Longenhagen: agreed, it’s weird

10:33
Andrew: Kinda weird to keep the ball from getting HBP, even if it’s your first time on base in 2020, no?

10:33
Sam: Joc Pederson… MVP candidate? Ok.

10:33
Ben Clemens: I *think* that the ball has to be taken out of play after an HBP

10:33
Ben Clemens: For COVID reasons

10:33
Avatar Jay Jaffe: i almost did a spit take on that one, Sam

10:33
Ben Clemens: And that Turner was just being a helpful guy

10:34
Andrew: But Justin Turner asked for it from the catcher, then tossed it to someone whose attention he got in his dugout. Just seemed odd to me.

10:34
Ben Clemens: It certainly looked odd

10:35
David: The crowd is just too fake

10:35
Avatar Jay Jaffe: the thing about the crowd noise, as I understand it, is that it’s more for the players than it is for the viewers. keep the in-game chatter from being overheard. But anyway you slice it, it’s gonna be weird.

10:35
Ben Clemens: The best fake crowd has been the cartoon characters one in  the KBO

10:35
Avatar Jay Jaffe: the KBO is the damn best

10:36
Avatar Jay Jaffe: i’ve been too busy to watch much of it lately but I miss it

10:37
Eric A Longenhagen: Jung-hoo Lee and Ha Seong Kim are must-watch for me

10:37
Avatar Jay Jaffe: I need more Swole Daddy and Sung-Bum Na

10:38
Ben Clemens: Insulting to my guy Eu-ji  Yang

10:38
Avatar Jay Jaffe: and Euiji Yang

10:38
Ben Clemens: He’s 100% my favorite to watch

10:38
Avatar Jay Jaffe: damn, it Ben, i was trying to remember how to type his name

10:38
Ben Clemens: Well, you got it right, and I got it wrong, sooooo

10:38
Wire Fan: The revisionist history on Friedman is starting to get annoying (the waiting for Betts narrative). Didn’t the Dodgers offer Harper a very high AAV deal on I think a 5 year deal?  They were also in on several other big name FA’s.

10:38
Ben Clemens: Yeah, it’s obnoxious

10:39
Ben Clemens: They went after Cole too

10:39
Ben Clemens: It’s safe to say that they were selective, but the fact that Betts is who they ended up with is still somewhat down to chance

10:39
Ben Clemens: Isn’t it enough to say that he identified the five best available players in baseball over some window and went after them?

10:40
JaAm: Derek Dietrich signed with the Cubs so he still gets to play against the Pirates!

10:40
Ben Clemens: I’ll be off for a moment, grabbing delivery food

10:40
Avatar Jay Jaffe: I hope he’s healthy. He was so much fun for awhile last year and then hit like .120 for several months playing through his shoulder injury

10:41
Marko from Tropoja: What are the chances that the Dodgers are in on Lindor? Imagine an infield with him, Seager at third, Lux and Muncy. Yikes …

10:41
Avatar Jay Jaffe: Tough to imagine them going with 2 $300M+ deals at once

10:42
Avatar Jay Jaffe: wow, Betts made that play close at second

10:43
Avatar Jay Jaffe: given the volume of Dodgers games I watch I am quite excited to see more Mookie

10:43
Derek: That bat crack sounded nice

10:43
Eric A Longenhagen: the empty stadium bat crack is very satisfying.

10:44
Ben Clemens: We back

10:44
JaAm: If Heineman were out that would have been quite the intro for Mookie

10:44
Ben Clemens: Get a head start on that defensive value

10:44
ben: What’s for dinner, Ben?

10:44
Ben Clemens: Pizza. My wife is feeling under the weather so we’ve scrapped our cooking plans

10:45
Derek: Hey Fangraphs was on ESPN!

10:45
Ben Clemens: Hype!

10:45
Avatar Jay Jaffe: had an exciting dinner here, I made hand-pulled noodles from a Xi’an Famous Foods kit and they turned out all right

10:45
Ben Clemens: Jay really just bragging here. Xi’an might be the food I miss most from NY

10:46
Ben Clemens: I lived about five minutes from the one in Chinatown

10:46
Avatar Jay Jaffe: i have one a block and a half away and it’s been closed since mid-March. but they just started doing these delivery meal kits and I am stoked

10:46
Kai John: San Francisco pizza?

10:46
Dodger Fan: Any toppings?

10:46
Ben Clemens: It’s acceptable. It’s not NY, of course

10:47
Rick: Will you be mentally attaching an asterisk to the WS winners if a team like the Rockies or Mariners sneaks into the (expanded) playoffs and gets hot, but not if a team like the Yankees or Dodgers wins it all, on the grounds that the latter teams, as a matter of true talent, deserved to be in the playoffs, but the former teams did not?

10:47
Eric A Longenhagen: It should have an asterisk regardless of what happens, I’m just dismayed at how you can’t strip the negative connotation from the asterisk because of the steroid era. It just denotes a weird thing happened but it’s always discussed as if it cheapens the accomplishment.

10:47
segiddins: Ben, what’s your ranking of top 5 pizza places in SF? There are wrong answers

10:47
Kai John: I’m here in SF too, what’s the best pizza in the City?

10:47
Ben Clemens: Oh man, on the spot

10:47
Ben Clemens: I’m not 100% sure to be honest

10:47
Ben Clemens: But I’ll give you three

10:48
Ben Clemens: I like Gioia, I like Little Star if you don’t want to go too pricey, and I like Montesacro Pinsa Romana

10:49
Ben Clemens: Kershaw is getting *paid* this year

10:49
Ben Clemens: Hankook tires? In!

10:49
Derek: When will ESPN change their default player stat line to something other than AVG-HR-RBI?

10:49
Ben Clemens: Skechers? The money vault is out back

10:49
Avatar Jay Jaffe: when they hire ex-players who don’t wax philosophical about small ball. I have the year 2327 down on my card

10:50
Ben Clemens: Just let Petriello and Benetti call every game

10:51
Babo: Do you think Edwin Rios stays as the first pinch hitter off the bench for the dodgers or do you think they move him for BP help at some point?

10:51
Eric A Longenhagen: I think it’ll be a mix of him, Taylor, Joc

10:51
Ben Clemens: I also don’t know how much deadline activity there will be, honestly

10:52
Eric A Longenhagen: They’re so deep. Rios has huge power, he just swings too much. But if it’s late and you need a ball in play…

10:52
Avatar Jay Jaffe: regarding asterisks, look, the year is weird, but any team who survives the mountain of bullshit that we have all had to contend with and wins the World Series gets to call themselves champion and tell us to kiss their asterisk.

10:52
David: Are these going to happen every day?

10:52
Ben Clemens: Today, tomorrow, and I dunno, playoffs?

10:53
JaAm: Yankees officially beat the Nationals

10:53
Avatar Jay Jaffe: wait i thought all rain-delayed games were considred suspended?

10:53
Avatar Jay Jaffe: what the

10:54
Ben Clemens: Nah, weirdly that’s only if tied?

10:54
Ben Clemens: I think

10:54
Ben Clemens: I don’t know the exact rule to be honest. Too many changes coming this year

10:55
Avatar Jay Jaffe: ah i think it’s suspended only if it hasn’t reached official status

10:55
Ben Clemens: One thing I’ve often wondered about Cueto: would he throw harder with a regular delivery

10:55
Ben Clemens: ?

10:56
Ben Clemens: He definitely has several variations where he can’t get his core into it quite as much

10:57
David: I thought they were saying all games were played in full on ESPN after the rain stopped…

10:57
Avatar Jay Jaffe: Continuation of Suspended Games. OBR 7.01 (“Regulation Games”) and 7.02 (“Suspended, Postponed, and Tie Games”) shall be adjusted to permit the continuation of non-regulation games (i.e., less than five complete innings) that are ended because of weather. Such games shall be treated as suspended games that will be continued at a later date (see OBR 7.02(b)) and resumed at the exact point of suspension of the original game (see OBR 7.02(c)).

10:57
Ben Clemens: Yeah, but Manfred said it, and as we know, anything Manfred says on ESPN gets walked back shortly thereafter

10:57
Avatar Jay Jaffe: from the 2020 operations manual

10:57
Anonymous: More likely: SF Giants sweep this series OR SF Giants are forced to use a position player as a pitcher at some point in this series?

10:57
Ben Clemens: Sounds like a poll!

10:58
Ben Clemens:

What’s more likely?

Giants sweep series (52.9% | 36 votes)
 
Position player pitches (47.0% | 32 votes)
 

Total Votes: 68
10:58
David: Cheers Jay, was about to ask if someone could find the rule on it but you beat me!

10:59
Avatar Jay Jaffe: yeah i don’t see anything about suspending games that have gone past 5.

10:59
Derek: Well, most likely is “neither”

10:59
Ben Clemens: SUre

10:59
Ben Clemens: What’s more likely, asteroid strike or alien invasion?

10:59
Emil: May’s at 40 pitches and is 1.5 times through the Giants’ lineup. Is this probably his last inning?

10:59
Eric A Longenhagen: May threw as many as four innings in camp

11:00
Aspergilius fumigatus: These count as complete games for Scherzer and Cole, right?

11:00
Eric A Longenhagen: he piggybacked with Buehler like 5 days ago

11:00
Ben Clemens: They will, yeah

11:01
Avatar Jay Jaffe: i think the broadcast said Roberts said 75 pitches for May

11:01
Ben Clemens: Loving the personalized masks, btw

11:02
Babo: Is it a quality start for Cole?

11:02
Ben Clemens: Huh

11:02
Ben Clemens: I don’t believe those are official stats

11:03
Avatar Jay Jaffe: it’s not a QS since a QS by definition is at least 6 innings

11:03
Avatar Jay Jaffe: (and yeah, not official)

11:03
Ben Clemens: So a) no and b)Dayn Perry is cited in the Wikipedia article on quality starts

11:03
Eric A Longenhagen: lol

11:04
Avatar Jay Jaffe: i like QS more than I do pitcher wins, tbh

11:04
Ben Clemens: Dayn Perry of CBS Sports has introduced what he calls the “Dominant Start”.[9] This stat would award a pitcher with a Dominant Start if he goes at least eight innings, and give up no more than one run, earned or unearned. This stat means that if a pitcher pitches a complete game and gives up two unearned runs, he would not get a Dominant Start. Perry argues that this stat would better show which pitchers are truly the best in all of baseball.

11:04
Ben Clemens: Odds of Carson having put that in there as a very weird piece of public art have to be higher than 0

11:04
Avatar Jay Jaffe: lol yes

11:05
Eric A Longenhagen: Lakers Mavs replay still has a quarter left on NBA TV if people wanna shake off that ‘recall’ button rust and regain feel and timing

11:05
Derek: “Dayn Perry is an author and possible baseball journalist. He was also a special consultant for the San Diego Padres from 2001–2003.” – Wikipedia

11:05
Matt: I know Cueto has been doing this forever, but are we just supposed to pretend that his delivery isn’t illegal?  The rule seems pretty clear.  Delivery has to be made “without alteration or interruption.”

11:06
Ben Clemens: No one knows what deliveries are and aren’t legal. If he threw to first halfway through the bleeps, the sweeps, and the creeps (to quote Spaceballs), I feel confident they’d call a balk

11:07
Ben Clemens: But he tones it way down with runners on, and I just don’t see an ump calling him out for an illegal pitch without a solid reason why

11:07
Eric A Longenhagen: The Schwartz tells me the script for the Spaceballs sequel is being written

11:08
Ben Clemens: Wait really?

11:09
Eric A Longenhagen: I think so. Story next staff call.

11:09
Ben Clemens: Amazing

11:09
Ben Clemens: I was down on the remaking of movies I liked when I was younger until I saw Super Troopers 2

11:09
Ben Clemens: Now I’m back in

11:09
Guest: Man the dodgers look like arod playing connect four versus cueto

11:10
Avatar Jay Jaffe: well, they just tied the game up

11:10
Guest: Well now they don’t

11:10
Guest: Super troopers 2 is good?!?

11:10
Ben Clemens: I liked it quite a bit

11:10
Ben Clemens: It didn’t try to be anything other than an extension of the first one

11:11
Ben Clemens: And I didn’t really want anything more than that

11:11
Nolan: Tim Kurkijan might be my favorite baseball analyst ever, simply because he has such genuine and boundless enthusiasm for the game, in addition to being a limitless font of fascinating trivia.  Who is your favorite analyst?

11:11
Eric A Longenhagen: Hershiser

11:11
Ben Clemens: Wonderful question

11:11
Avatar Jay Jaffe: I enjoy David Cone with the Yankees

11:11
Ben Clemens: I actually like Keith Hernandez quite a bit, though not so much for the baseball analysis

11:12
Avatar Jay Jaffe: Hershiser has grown on me too

11:12
Ben Clemens: I don’t think he would work at a national level but I’ve liked Francoeur with the Braves

11:12
Kvn: KEITH HERNANDEZ?!

11:13
Ben Clemens: I like someone who talks about cats instead of bothering to watch the Mets sometimes

11:13
Car Talk Fan: On NPR today there was a piece saying the reason the small sample of 60 games was unrepresentative was because there will be less games against the same pitchers (ie the games aren’t representative because there just aren’t enough games with the same starting lineups). Is that true? I’ve never heard it framed that way

11:13
Ben Clemens: In a word: no

11:14
Ben Clemens: Oh!

11:14
Ben Clemens: Bill Walton is the best baseball analyst

11:14
Avatar Jay Jaffe: lol

11:14
Ben Clemens: The Walton/Benetti booth in Anaheim last year was the best baseball broadcast I’ve ever heard

11:15
Avatar Jay Jaffe: i am drawing blanks in thinking of others I like, it’s been so long

11:15
Car Talk Fan: That’s what I figured! It was so odd to hear

11:15
Ben Clemens: Yeah. Very weird way of explaining it, and misleading

11:16
Ben Clemens: A 97-game season where each team played the other 29 3 times would be more representative than a 60-game season despite actual 0 repeated matchups

11:16
Ben Clemens: Yikes, 87*

11:16
homealone: honestly that whole weekend was solid, Benetti/Schur was quite an enjoyable broadcast to listen to as well

11:16
NakedMoleGaetti: Steve Berthiaume is good

11:16
Olan: Charlie Steiner/Rick Monday are fun to listen to. Not really for analysis though

11:17
Dodger Fan: ARod /s

11:17
Ben Clemens: Potentially blasphemous, but I liked the A-Rod/Pete Rose studio

11:17
Girardi: I was fucking incredible in last year’s NLDS

11:17
Avatar Jay Jaffe: Girardi is great inthe booth

11:18
Ben Clemens: A-Rod is wildly underqualified to be analyzing a game live

11:18
Guest: The whole YES crew is good, but yeah Cone is the star

11:18
Ben Clemens: But watching him unsuccessfully try to bro it up with a baseball legend was tremendous

11:18
Dodger Fan: Ben, I was joking

11:18
Avatar Jay Jaffe: I am a long time Ken Singleton fan

11:18
Ben Clemens: Oh I know, I just wanted it as an entree into my bad take

11:19
Dodger Fan: I just wanted to express my appreciation for this community of baseball fans

11:20
Avatar Jay Jaffe: it’s great to be chatting about live-ass baseball right now

11:20
Dodger Fan: That LA sunset looks much less cool from my place

11:20
Avatar Jay Jaffe: and we appreciate you too

11:21
Ben Clemens: Totally agree with Jay

11:21
Ben Clemens: It feels surreal to have real baseball on

11:22
Dan: How many games would the Orioles win if they moved their whole team as is to the Korean league?

11:22
Avatar Jay Jaffe: I put out the Szymborski bat signal for that one

11:22
Stu: Does the “K” indicator for a strike bother anyone else?  K is for strikeout, not strike, right?

11:22
Ben Clemens: Yes!

11:23
Ben Clemens: I complain about it frequently

11:23
Ben Clemens: Just use the solid/hollow indicator that everyone else uses

11:23
Guest: Says someone who drinks hot water

11:24
Ben Clemens: You tell *one* embarrassing story on a podcast you know people will listen to…

11:25
Guest: It’s your connect four

11:25
YardGoat: Dustin May’s last inning?

11:25
Ben Clemens: I say yes

11:25
Ben Clemens: Not convinced he’ll make it out

11:25
Avatar Jay Jaffe: they just pulled him at 60 pitches, so scratch what I said earlier

11:25
Ben Clemens: Ha well

11:25
Morgan: Total number of complete game shutouts this year: over or under 3.

11:26
Ben Clemens: I’ll take the under

11:26
Eric A Longenhagen: Caleb Ferguson struggled to throw strikes in his last scrimmage outing

11:26
Eric A Longenhagen: https://streamable.com/7b0tdh

11:26
Avatar Jay Jaffe: and all of last year

11:26
Jonesy Wales: First pitching change of the season!

11:26
Dodger Fan: OOTP loves Caleb Ferguson for some reason

11:26
Ben Clemens: OOTP largely equals ZiPS

11:27
Ben Clemens: So take it up with Dan

11:27
Avatar Jay Jaffe: woof 13.2% BB rate for Ferguson last year

11:27
Guest: ZiPS is lower on Ferguson than Steamer is

11:27
Eric A Longenhagen: Dodgers lefty relief situation is sneaky thin

11:28
Ben Clemens: That’s really interesting. I have no clue why then

11:28
Eric A Longenhagen: Kolarek (gap), Ferg, Alexander, waiver-plucked McGee

11:28
Avatar Jay Jaffe: they seem to think they can fix McGee but we shall see

11:28
Ben Clemens: Kolarek is great, but yeah

11:28
Ben Clemens: Mind the gap

11:29
Ben Clemens: Sorry Eduardo, some pitchers aren’t built up enough to face *three* hitters?

11:29
Ben Clemens: That’s worrisome!

11:30
Josh: How the hell do the Dodgers find major leaguers in the 38th round?

11:30
Eric A Longenhagen: Arguably the best dev group in baseball

11:30
Dodger Fan: TOOTBLAN

11:30
Dodger Fan: Dumbest rundown ever

11:30
Ben Clemens: I thought Seager made a nice heads up read to not finish the double play attempt

11:30
Ben Clemens: But also, yeah

11:31
Chico Herrera: I would have made that play! Put me in, Dave.

11:31
Avatar Jay Jaffe: serious TOOTBLAN on that one, i missed those

11:31
Ridley: I just noticed there’s still netting behind the plate. The fans are cardboard!

11:31
Eric A Longenhagen: they should remove the netting and let’s see what happens to the cutouts

11:32
Ben Clemens: Don’t team employees sit back there sometimes?

11:32
Eric A Longenhagen: So, shark fest and shark week are different things?

11:32
Eric A Longenhagen: or did they rebrand shark week?

11:35
Dodger Fan: Matt Chapman!

11:35
Ben Clemens: Anyone listen to the earlier game when they were discussing playoff dark horses?

11:35
Avatar Jay Jaffe: like the Astros?

11:35
Eric A Longenhagen: Yes, haaaaa

11:36
Ben Clemens: I forget which announcer it was, but they said “Oh I like the A’s. Matt Chapman is an MVP candidate. Matt Olson is an MVP candidate. Marcus Semien (pause) wants to prove he can play at a high level this year.”

11:36
Ben Clemens: HE WAS AN MVP VOTE GETTER LAST YEAR YOU DWEEBS

11:36
Ben Clemens: A-Rod does not understand what dark horse or sleeper means, it’s true

11:36
Dodger Fan: He placed third!

11:36
Ben Clemens: Yeah it was inexcusable

11:37
Avatar Jay Jaffe: it’s Summer Camp for his brain too

11:37
Morgan: Which team do you think most benefits from the expanded playoff format?

11:37
Avatar Jay Jaffe: .500ish teams. Angels, Mets

11:37
Ben Clemens: hot take: sub-.500-ish teams

11:37
Eric A Longenhagen: NL Central teams all have a better chance to beat up on AL Central and slip in

11:37
Avatar Jay Jaffe: as in they’ll get in. won’t get anywhere

11:38
Ben Clemens: I had the NL Central winning both wild cards in the old format

11:38
Ben Clemens: Couldn’t bring myself to add a *fourth*

11:38
Avatar Jay Jaffe: i have Reds-Cubs-Brewers all in

11:39
Ben Clemens: I have Reds-Brewers-Cards

11:39
Dodger Fan: There will likely be a sub-.500 team in this year, probably in the AL

11:39
Ben Clemens: Potentially in the NL as well

11:39
Shimmy Dean: Hard to believe Flores was the starting shortstop in the World Series not that long ago

11:39
Ben Clemens: Yeah, but only because of that meddling Chase Utley

11:40
Matt: Going to be devastating when the 50-10 Dodgers lose to the 28-32 Padres in the first round.

11:41
Ben Clemens: My best man lives in LA and loathes the Dodgers (he grew up near DC)

11:41
Ben Clemens: He has mentioned a variation on this exact scenario as his biggest hope for the season

11:41
Ben Clemens: Just the Dodgers finding new ways to choke

11:41
Ben Clemens: Unless this is, in fact, him

11:41
Ben Clemens: A possibility!

11:42
John: I think the biggest beneficiaries are probably teams that are likely to be 2nd place in tough divisions.  A’s, DBacks.  The second place auto bid is the biggest change.

11:42
Ben Clemens: Eh

11:42
Ben Clemens: It’s pretty hard to miss an 8-game playoff field if you finish second in your division, even without the second place auto bid

11:43
Ben Clemens: 8/15 make the playoffs, you already beat 3 in your league

11:43
Avatar Jay Jaffe: i hate the 8-team thing but then again a 60-game season is just a tournament anyway, where Cinderella has a chance of winning. this just locks that in

11:43
Ben Clemens: That means you need to beat 4 teams from other divisions TOTAL

11:44
Ben Clemens: Just seems unlikely to me

11:45
NihilistDuda: Yeah 50-10 dodgers. So now we think they would win 138 games in a regular year. Let’s step off the third rail

11:45
Eric A Longenhagen: The phrase “the third rail” is making a comeback.

11:45
Ben Clemens: Jay I totally agree with you on that (soon to be a feature-length article on Fan Graphs dot com)

11:45
Ben Clemens: So long as they don’t keep expanded playoffs past this year, bring it on

11:45
Eric A Longenhagen: Now if only we could start to curb how often we all say “100%”

11:45
Dodger Fan: Huge strikeout there

11:45
Ben Clemens: My wife greatly dislikes that I hedge and say 99% a lot

11:46
Avatar Jay Jaffe: just pour Stupid Sauce on everything and we’ll puke it up in October, sleep it off from November to January, and get back to Normal Baseball next year

11:47
Matt: That’s how it starts, though. You enjoy some stupid sauce on Friday, and eventually, you’re sneaking stupid sauce during work lunches and having 20 team playoffs in normal years.

11:47
Avatar Jay Jaffe: Pedro Baez is here to stretch the space-time continuum like a hand-pulled noodle

11:47
Oddball Herrera: But what if this only whets the public’s appetite for stupid sauce

11:48
Avatar Jay Jaffe: indeed, some people are highly susceptible to Stupid Sauce

11:48
Guest: I 100% agree with you Eric

11:48
Matt: Bring out the CLOCK!

11:49
Ben Clemens: Imagine Baez pitching in a Sox/Yankees game

11:49
NihilistDuda: Why- I’d argue that this seasons champion is one of the best of all time for all the ridiculousness they have to go through to win it. Quit with the asterisk stuff.

11:50
NakedMoleGaetti: If you had to pick one of the lowest projected teams to make the expanded playoffs? Marlins, Tigers, Royals, Pirates, Giants, Mariners, Pirates, Orioles

11:50
Eric A Longenhagen: I guess I could see a bunch of the young Mariners quickly getting good.

11:50
Ben Clemens: Do the Red Sox count? I actually took them

11:51
Ben Clemens: I really hope they are wrong about expanded playoffs being here to stay

11:51
Ben Clemens: Kurkjian the voice of reason

11:52
Avatar Jay Jaffe: I like Kurkjian and Perez but i really wish this broadcast would talk more about the action on the field.

11:53
Ben Clemens: They’re suffering from KBO-itis

11:53
Ben Clemens: Those first few ESPN KBO broadcasts were tough to watch

11:53
Avatar Jay Jaffe: yes, and even having benefited from that by doing a broadcast with Perez and Boog, I’m finding this format tough to take

11:53
Avatar Jay Jaffe: (I did a couple innings, not a full broadcast)

11:53
Matt: Resolved:  Cardboard cutout fans also need to have pictures of the backs of their heads

11:53
TKDC: They also aren’t actually there. That probably impacts how they announce.

11:54
Ben Clemens: I think that’s most of it

11:54
Guest: Do they still do KBO games live? Feels like nobody watches them anymore

11:54
Ben Clemens: Jeez, Idina Menzel getting checks too

11:54
Avatar Jay Jaffe: the Yankees booth took it like a normal game the other night, broadcasting from the Bronx while they played in Queens

11:54
Eric A Longenhagen: They do. I watched the weekend 10pm west coast game until they took them away. Now I watch some replays based on who’s playing.

11:55
Ben Clemens: I guess that breaks the streak of Anna Kendrick being in every single commercial where someone needs a celebrity

11:55
Chico Herrera: Let’s have Bill Walton and Rex Hudler call these games

11:56
Dodger Fan: Could *we* talk more about the game?

11:56
Ben Clemens: A fair counterpoint

11:56
Ben Clemens: It has, to be fair, been a tame affair so far

11:57
Ben Clemens: They are pushing this narrative that the Giants had a regime change over the winter hard

11:57
Ben Clemens: Guys, the Giants have been bad for YEARS

11:57
Avatar Jay Jaffe: via Statcast only 4 balls with exit velos of 100+, 2 off May and 1 each off Cueto and Smyly

11:57
Eric A Longenhagen: Rico threw really hard in relief with COL, not so much as a starter.

11:57
Ben Clemens: Not having Lux on the roster messes with the Dodgers’ infield depth a little

11:58
Eric A Longenhagen: Brody Stevens sighting

11:58
Ben Clemens: Like Hernandez should only start against lefties really

11:58
Aristedes Antetukounmpp: i need a Rico Garcia scouting report

11:58
Ben Clemens: I suppose they weren’t brave enough to go Rios at first/Muncy at second

11:59
Dodger Fan: Well Muncy could play second and Rios first, so it’s not like Roberts was forced to use Kiké.

11:59
Eric A Longenhagen: 93-96, average changeup and slider, couldn’t velo late. Was in the extras

11:59
Ben Clemens: Haha I was getting to that! But yeah I think they plan on having Muncy 1st-only if possible this year

11:59
Guest: Was Lux’s option purely service time?

11:59
Eric A Longenhagen: Kiké also looked incredible during intrasquads.

11:59
Ben Clemens: Curious to see what Eric thinks about this

12:00
Ben Clemens: I say no

12:00
Avatar Jay Jaffe: Lux showed up late due to “undisclosed reasons” for absence

12:00
Avatar Jay Jaffe: and had some struggles on both sides of the ball

12:00
Ben Clemens: I think they’re unlikely to keep him down the month they’d need

12:00
Avatar Jay Jaffe: service time might be in there but plausible he’s just not ready and they have insane depth

12:00
Eric A Longenhagen: What game is that, Ben?

12:01
Ben Clemens: Hm? Oh, I meant the service time game with Lux

12:01
Avatar Jay Jaffe: Now: source says Blue Jays will call up Nate Pearson July 29, that’s some service time games

12:01
Eric A Longenhagen: Oh, he definitely has issues throwing to first base. He either needs to get that ironed out or get reps in LF.

12:02
Ben Clemens: Dylan Carlson? Service time too

12:02
Ben Clemens: But I don’t buy Lux

12:03
Smiling Politely: Is the deal to add playoff teams further incentive for clubs to hold down younger players (now that the 60 games don’t really matter)? did the players do it for more playoff shares and no concern for other consequences (and are they likely to agree to it down the line)?

12:03
Ben Clemens: I don’t see it that way. I don’t think it does much for service time shenanigans really

12:03
Ben Clemens: My take is that after the deal to start the season was agreed, the owners called the players and were like ‘hey guys, expanded playoffs?’

12:03
Avatar Jay Jaffe: the expanded playoffs are to get the players some money

12:03
Ben Clemens: And the players said ‘nah’

12:03
Ben Clemens: And the owners said “We’ll give you 50 million bucks”

12:03
Ben Clemens: And the players said “Okay”

12:04
Avatar Jay Jaffe: right

12:05
Nick: When asked to think of the best players over the past couple decades, which players do you most often find yourself *forgetting*?  For instance, for some reason I tend to forget that Omar Vizquel and Matt Holliday ever existed.

12:05
Ben Clemens: This might be too old but Garret Anderson for me

12:05
Ben Clemens: I saw his card in OOTP and went “ohhhhhhhhhhh”

12:06
Smiling Politely: Juan Gonzalez

12:06
1-877- Kars for Kids: Hunter Pence has 80 grade hair, change my mind

12:06
Ben Clemens: Why would I want to change your mind? I’d rather change your screen name

12:07
Ben Clemens: Meanwhile human rain delay is out

12:07
Eric A Longenhagen: I had 26 seconds between pitches in his first inning

12:07
Eric A Longenhagen: here comes Kolarek

12:08
Avatar Jay Jaffe: if you want to know what I’ve chosen as my first beer of the 2020 MLB season

12:09
NihilistDuda: Dustin May has 20 grade hair change my mind

12:09
Ben Clemens: Question for Eric

12:09
Ben Clemens: Does 20 grade imply that it could literally not be worse?

12:09
Ben Clemens: Does the existence of a worse option mean that something can therefore not be 20 grade?

12:09
Avatar Jay Jaffe: somebody mistyped 80 as 20, haha

12:09
Eric A Longenhagen: Uh, yeah like it’s not playable.

12:10
Ben Clemens: Ha btw Ravech going “submariner!” with shock in his voice

12:10
Eric A Longenhagen: The 20s are a problem, I’m trying to repurpose 20s

12:10
Ben Clemens: After Kolarek’s first pitch

12:10
Ben Clemens: Incredible

12:10
Ben Clemens: Was he not watching the warmups?

12:11
Eric A Longenhagen: Very interesting that Solano hit there.

12:11
Ben Clemens: Eric, if you were a team like the Giants with nothing to play for, would you hunt platoon-disadvantaged at-bats?

12:11
Ben Clemens: Let your lefties hit against tough lefties and so on?

12:11
Ben Clemens: Just to get them some reps and hopefully let them gain familiarity with it

12:12
Eric A Longenhagen: hmmm

12:13
Eric A Longenhagen: I think I’d be prioritizing showcasing more players as specialists to trade rather than develop a whole player but then you’re not tanking like you should be?

12:13
Eric A Longenhagen: It’s tough.

12:13
Eric A Longenhagen: Like, should KC just let franchy play everyday?

12:14
Ben Clemens: Right, that’s a great example of what I’m asking

12:14
Eric A Longenhagen: Doing so with SOler probably helped him.

12:14
Ben Clemens: You’re obviously hoping to get a player out of Franchy who is good enough that he plays every day

12:14
Ben Clemens: But if you shelter him against lefties, he’s less likely to develop the muscle memory for it

12:15
Ben Clemens: Mookie hit!!!

12:15
Smiling Politely: Who just wrote about how Mookie should look for more inside pitches? Give yourself a high five!

12:15
Avatar Jay Jaffe: yeah i think if you’re one of these teams you have to see if some of the kids can learn to hit same-side pitching

12:15
Dodger Fan: Betts quietly 2 for 4

12:16
Ben Clemens: I’m busy snuggling with my dog, I’ll settle for a celebratory snuggle

12:16
Matt: I think one of Mookie’s PAs was called an error, so 1-4

12:16
Ben Clemens: On base twice, at least

12:16
Matt: SF’s streak of 14 consecutive new opening day starters in LF since Bonds is the most astonishing bit of baseball trivia I’ve ever heard.

12:17
Ben Clemens: Imagine being Taylor Rogers and they’re like hey man, we’ve got two of the next three hitters as righties, you’re good

12:17
Ben Clemens: Oh by the way the righties are Mookie Betts and Justin Turner

12:17
Ben Clemens: … and the lefty is Bellinger

12:17
Avatar Jay Jaffe: lol

12:17
Dodger Fan: Tyler*

12:17
Ben Clemens: Dangit!

12:18
Ben Clemens: What kind of parents name their kids Tyler and Taylor

12:18
Ben Clemens: C’mon

12:18
matt: Betts-Bellinger-Turner the best 2-3-4 hitters in MLB this year?

12:18
Ben Clemens: I’ll give the edge to Trout/Rendon/Ohtani

12:18
Ben Clemens: But it is CLOSE

12:19
Avatar Jay Jaffe: with both of those, a lot of it depends on how often the #4 guy shows up

12:19
Eric A Longenhagen: SFG releases so far tonight

12:19
Avatar Jay Jaffe: wow

12:19
Ben Clemens: They’re going full Brewers

12:20
Ben Clemens: Rogers is a real weirdo, though; otherwise that wouldn’t look so crazy

12:21
Ben Clemens: The Dodgers lineup must be very frustrating for opponents

12:21
Dodger Fan: Insurance!

12:21
Ben Clemens: Ravech now saying Kiki Hernandez

12:21
Ben Clemens: And I can’t get in my feelings out of my head

12:22
Guest: FG got the new playoff odds up quickly. You guys are the best

12:22
Ben Clemens: Heck yeah

12:22
Ben Clemens: David and Sean are awesome

12:22
Eric A Longenhagen: I think I saw Dany Jimenez coming in? Their Rule 5 pick

12:23
Ben Clemens: So in this Hankook commercial

12:23
Ben Clemens: Was this just a colossal homer?

12:23
Ben Clemens: Are there multiple Kershaws?

12:23
Ben Clemens: How did he get to the garage?

12:23
Ben Clemens: Someone on Twitter suggested a sequel where Bumgarner sails a boat to catch one

12:24
Ben Clemens: I’d be into it

12:24
Avatar Jay Jaffe: i think that’s how Kershaw hurt his back

12:24
Matt: Imagine pitching the commercial to Kershaw.  “So you’re going to be on the mound and just give up a monster dong.”

12:25
Marshall: I feel like that Hankook commercial would make more sense with an OF instead of a pitcher as the focus

12:25
Ben Clemens: Or the hitter catching his own souvenir

12:25
Ben Clemens: Or it’s a sandlot game and they only have one ball

12:26
Ben Clemens: Jimenez looks like he’s throwing harder than the gun is registering

12:26
Lance Biggerstaff: Why do announcers always have to say, “I’m a big fan of the analytics, BUT…”

12:26
Lance Biggerstaff: Like, nobody on Fangraphs Dot Com would argue that most baseball fundamentals just don’t matter

12:27
Ben Clemens: People enjoy defining themselves by their opposition

12:27
Ben Clemens: It’s hard to say what you think is right, relatively easy to say what you think is wrong

12:27
Avatar Jay Jaffe: <broadly gestures at twitter>

12:27
Matt: It’s because Jimenez has those long Ramon Martinez arms.  They add 3 MPH in appearance.

12:27
Guest: Jimenez looks robotic

12:28
Ben Clemens: I really *want* him to have more of an arm snap

12:28
Ben Clemens: When I picture a skinny guy with long levers like that, I just automatically picture a snap at the end of the delivery

12:28
Eric A Longenhagen: Dodgers release points so far

12:29
Ben Clemens: Kolarek does the Oliver Drake move for right/lefty thing I guess?

12:29
Wire Fan: Going to be a lot easier to keep rule 5 guys this year.   Any chance we see more rule 5 picks this offseason?

12:29
Eric A Longenhagen: I don’t think so. Hard to evaluate minor leaguers with enough confidence to think you can roster them all next year.

12:29
Eric A Longenhagen: Ben, I don’t know the specifics of his variation.

12:30
Ben Clemens: Gotcha. I wasn’t paying enough attention during his appearance

12:30
Ben Clemens: I have noticed that the Rays are big fans of moving righties all the way to the first base side against lefties

12:31
Ben Clemens: Was wondering if the Dodgers are getting into it as well, only in reverse

12:31
Smiling Politely: Are May’s separation points distinct enough so that a hitter could tell that it was/wasn’t a SL?

12:31
Eric A Longenhagen: probably not

12:32
Ben Clemens: “I’m all in when it comes to the analytics”

12:32
Ben Clemens: Buddy, when you follow that sentence with a “but”, you’re just confusing us

12:32
Ben Clemens: Lol I love that he’s saying “sometimes you shouldn’t pull overall good batters to get a platoon advantage”

12:32
Ben Clemens: Something we’d all wholeheartedly agree with

12:33
Ben Clemens: And then saying “that’s something analytics doesn’t take into account”

12:33
Oddball Herrera: Do you expect to see a lot of early trade activity from the bottom dwellers? I would think you’re going to get peanuts if you wait until Aug 31 to see how much people pay for 1 month of a player

12:34
Dodger Fan: OH MY GOD

12:34
Dodger Fan: WHAT WAS THAT

12:34
Ben Clemens: lolllll

12:34
Eric A Longenhagen: 92-93 frmo Jimenez is below last year with TOR

12:35
Avatar Jay Jaffe: I don’t expect to see much trade activity, tbh. I think teams will be more conscious of the impact of moving guys from team to team under these conditions

12:35
Ben Clemens: Did he…. did he look where Dubon was?

12:35
Ben Clemens: look at*

12:35
Oddball Herrera: I’m not watching the game so I can only assume the all caps reaction means a naked cardboard cutout ran into the field

12:36
Ben Clemens: Donovan Solano made a casual grab and flip to Mauricio Dubon to get an out at second

12:36
Ben Clemens: …. Dubon was 10 feet from the bag while the runner was 5 feet away

12:36
Ben Clemens: Yeah, whoops

12:37
Ben Clemens: This Eduardo Perez rant is so weird

12:37
Dodger Fan: Calling it because I want to: Betts slam coming up!

12:37
Matt: Feel really bad for Jimenez in this inning.  Got squeezed a bit and then screwed by the defense.  Rough way to start the year.

12:37
Ben Clemens: Yeah his stuff has not blown me away

12:37
Ben Clemens: But he hasn’t been this bad

12:37
Eric A Longenhagen: I don’t think Kapler always implements new thinking in the optimal way

12:38
Ben Clemens: Well that’s true, but I have no issues with pulling Crawford there

12:38
Ben Clemens: This isn’t call in a reliever when no one’s warming

12:38
Ben Clemens: He does some goofy stuff. But pinch hitting for Brandon Crawford in a big spot of a tie game against a lefty

12:38
Ben Clemens: When Dubon can cover short?

12:39
Avatar Jay Jaffe: ok folks, as it’s a 5-run lead and i’m the lone East Coaster on our chat squad I’m going to grab some bench

12:39
Eric A Longenhagen: See ya, Jay

12:39
Avatar Jay Jaffe: it’s been a pleasure chatting about live baseball again

12:39
Avatar Jay Jaffe: good night!

12:39
Ben Clemens: Later Jay

12:39
Dodger Fan: Oof

12:39
Ben Clemens: Excellent pitch there

12:40
Eric A Longenhagen: Why Solano and not a real bopper like Ruf or Davis, then Solano on D the next inning? In the 7th, the opportunities in an all-DH world for those two guys to hit are gonna be limited the rest of the way. I get not wanting to burn two guys in one move, I guess.

12:40
Ben Clemens: Nah that’s fair

12:40
Ben Clemens: That’s a legit counter-argument

12:41
Ben Clemens: “But Crawford is clutch” is not

12:41
Dodger Fan: Yeah that was a great pitch

12:41
Dodger Fan: Easily his best of the night

12:41
Smiling Politely: he got away with that first pitch, but man did he fool him there

12:41
Ben Clemens: Yeah that was what he thought he did against Joc

12:41
Ben Clemens: Like, twice!

12:41
TKDC: Maybe the announcers shouldn’t talk about the game if they are going to dwell on well-past-his-prime Brandon Crawford for 20 minutes?

12:42
Ben Clemens: I’M ALL IN ON ANALYTICS BUT

12:43
Grits: I figured when Farhan hired Kapler he must’ve thought there’d be improvement. But that was a classic goofball Philly Kapler decision

12:44
Dodger Fan: I wonder what percentage of the game these guys have actually commented on?

12:44
Ben Clemens: They go in and out

12:44
Ben Clemens: We do as well, to be fair

12:45
Smiling Politely: it reminds me of “WITH ALL DUE RESPECT” from Talladega Nights, which permits you to say anything you want without regard to respect immediately afterward

12:45
Eric A Longenhagen: Kolarek just carving

12:45
Ben Clemens: “No disrespect, but”

12:45
Ben Clemens: “I’m all-in, but”

12:46
Ben Clemens: Same vibe

12:46
Ben Clemens: It’s fun to watch Kolarek

12:47
Chet Manley: Speaking of off topic, but I figure since it’s 6-1… any update on the OOTP trade front @ben? Or do you want to save the updates for next week.

12:47
Ben Clemens: Just really quickly: Uh, everyone in the league is a baseball writer so activity has been light

12:48
Fangraph’s Lurker: I don’t buy that kershaw is okay. If it was a minor thing, then why the IL and not day to day or skip a start or even push to 5th spot?

12:48
Ben Clemens: Yeah I am terrified

12:48
Eric A Longenhagen: I agree. ‘Minor’ is subjective and he has a history of back issues.

12:49
Ben Clemens: It’s literally his biggest weakness

12:50
Topper Bottoms: I still find it unbelievable that Dave Roberts trusted Kolarek so much last year… until the biggest stage. Then he went with a tired Clayton Kershaw. For no reason.

12:50
Ben Clemens: Yeah 🙁

12:51
Dodger Fan: His biggest weakness is Brandon Woodruff hitting

12:51
Ben Clemens: Harsh

12:52
Ben Clemens: A true story for you that will undoubtedly make you, the Dodgers fan, sad

12:52
Ben Clemens: I was on vacation in 2013, the year I started dating my now-wife

12:52
Ben Clemens: Cards-Dodgers

12:52
Eric A Longenhagen: lol

12:52
Ben Clemens: The Dodgers hang 5 or whatever on the Cardinals

12:52
Ben Clemens: And I was just like, nah, I need to stop watching

12:52
Ben Clemens: It’s 5 runs and Kershaw

12:52
Ben Clemens: Let’s go look at nature or something

12:53
Ben Clemens: It’s unhealthy for me to keep watching this

12:53
Ben Clemens: Got back, saw the score, could not understand

12:53
Ben Clemens: Oh no, haha, this was 2014!

12:53
Brian CashGod: also seriously, how did that balloon get there? There are no fans…

12:53
Eric A Longenhagen: Pennywise

12:53
Lance Biggerstaff: Ghost balloons. Pitchers catching popups. It’s officially weird baseball o’clock

12:53
Ben Clemens: Pitchers catching pop ups, always a crowd pleaser

12:54
Matt: The IL for Kershaw was necessary if they wanted May to start, because he was optioned the day before Kershaw hurt himself.  With back-dating, Kershaw can be back next weekend.  Made sense to use IL to get May onto the roster as a replacement.

12:54
Ben Clemens: I didn’t realize they’d optioned May but this makes sense

12:54
Ben Clemens: You need to IL someone to get an early recall

12:55
Pennywise: There’s a 162 game covid free season down here

12:56
Ben Clemens: Dubon has looked pretty smooth out there

12:56
Ben Clemens: Aside from, you know, the time Solano hung him out to dry

12:56
Dodger Fan: Seager hit that HARD. BABIP!

12:58
Smiling Politely: Hey, ESPN reading FG on the air!

12:58
Guest: ESPN gets some street cred for checking FG

12:58
Ben Clemens: That is sweet

12:58
Ben Clemens: That’s two FG references on the night

12:58
Ben Clemens: Following up on “Gabe Kapler is going to do some analytics things…. baserunning!”

12:59
Ben Clemens: Tied for the NL HR lead now!

12:59
Ben Clemens: Taste it, Bellinger and Mookie

1:00
Dodger Fan: Not a fan of his facial hair

1:00
Ben Clemens: Mustaches are love/hate

1:02
Topper Bottoms: Very brief White Sox detour so I guess I’ll go ahead and say it… Yasmani Grandal is building a real HOF case

1:02
Topper Bottoms: He will need another 3-4 years at peak and a couple more around average, but I think he can get there. Even *if* robo umps come into play.

1:02
Ben Clemens: Oof, would love to have Jay still here

1:02
Dodger Fan: Time for Graterol’s Dodger debut

1:03
Ben Clemens: Deathstar Graterol, you still here?

1:03
Matt: Catchers are a weird HoF situation.  20 years from now there are going to be some good hot takes comparing Russell Martin and Yadier Molina

1:03
Ben Clemens: Fwiw I think Molina is a surefire bet

1:03
Ben Clemens: And that Martin is cuspy

1:03
Ben Clemens: Not saying that’s right, but that’s just the feeling I get

1:03
Arthur: Is there a HOF for mustaches?

1:03
Eric A Longenhagen: I’d guess so, there’s definitely a mustache culture

1:04
Dodger Fan: How did he pronounce Graterol?

1:04
Grurawrl: Obviously a very rough comp, but Mauer’s career WAR is at 52. Grandal is at 32 and has been consistently between 4.5 and 5.5 for five years now.

1:05
Bob Loblaw: Re Grandal – he’s 31 and catchers’ aging curves are… not kind.  Hard to see it.

1:05
Ben Clemens: This is basically the question

1:05
Ben Clemens: If he can keep it going

1:05
Ben Clemens: Sure

1:05
Ben Clemens: Catchers generally have not kept it going

1:05
Ben Clemens: It’s hard to catch

1:05
Ben Clemens: Ballgame, folks

1:05
Ben Clemens: That was, well, it was close, and then later it was not close

1:06
Smiling Politely: thanks, FG!

1:06
Eric A Longenhagen: See you everyone, thanks for coming

1:06
Poor Man’s Rick Reed: Bringing this back tomorrow for bigger opening day?

1:06
Ben Clemens: Yes, we will be here all day tomorrow

1:06
Ben Clemens: Well, not me and Eric

1:06
Ben Clemens: But FG writers will be chatting all day tomorrow, and I’ll be hitting up the late shift again

1:06
Ben Clemens: Have a great night everyone, and thanks for hanging out





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