FanGraphs Power Rankings: June 17–23

There were some big shakeups in the AL playoff picture as the Red Sox and Astros charged up the standings, while the NL playoff picture is just as messy as ever.

This season, we’ve revamped our power rankings. The old model wasn’t very reactive to the ups and downs of any given team’s performance throughout the season, and by September, it was giving far too much weight to a team’s full body of work without taking into account how the club had changed, improved, or declined since March. That’s why we’ve decided to build our power rankings model using a modified Elo rating system. If you’re familiar with chess rankings or FiveThirtyEight’s defunct sports section, you’ll know that Elo is an elegant solution that measures teams’ relative strength and is very reactive to recent performance.

To avoid overweighting recent results during the season, we weigh each team’s raw Elo rank using our coinflip playoff odds (specifically, we regress the playoff odds by 50% and weigh those against the raw Elo ranking, increasing in weight as the season progresses to a maximum of 25%). As the best and worst teams sort themselves out throughout the season, they’ll filter to the top and bottom of the rankings, while the exercise will remain reactive to hot streaks or cold snaps.

First up are the full rankings, presented in a sortable table. Below that, I’ve grouped the teams into tiers with comments on a handful of clubs. You’ll notice that the official ordinal rankings don’t always match the tiers — I’ve taken some editorial liberties when grouping teams together — but generally, the ordering is consistent. One thing to note: The playoff odds listed in the tables below are our standard Depth Charts odds, not the coin flip odds that are used in the ranking formula.

Complete Power Rankings
Rank Team Record Elo Opponent Elo Playoff Odds Power Score Δ
1 Yankees 52-28 1595 1514 99.7% 1613 0
2 Phillies 51-26 1581 1481 99.9% 1600 1
3 Orioles 49-28 1578 1500 97.6% 1595 -1
4 Guardians 49-26 1573 1483 91.6% 1592 2
5 Dodgers 48-31 1558 1487 99.3% 1578 -1
6 Braves 43-32 1555 1499 95.4% 1565 3
7 Mariners 45-35 1539 1494 80.1% 1552 -2
8 Brewers 45-33 1527 1495 79.8% 1543 -1
9 Red Sox 42-36 1545 1509 37.1% 1539 2
10 Twins 43-35 1525 1485 73.9% 1527 -2
11 Astros 38-40 1534 1502 43.6% 1514 5
12 Cardinals 39-37 1518 1490 43.7% 1513 0
13 Mets 37-39 1517 1515 34.1% 1502 1
14 Padres 41-41 1509 1509 50.1% 1499 4
15 Royals 42-37 1488 1502 29.3% 1485 -5
16 Diamondbacks 38-40 1497 1493 29.7% 1484 4
17 Rays 38-40 1502 1496 16.9% 1482 5
18 Nationals 38-39 1488 1502 3.5% 1479 -1
19 Rangers 37-40 1491 1503 17.6% 1474 5
20 Pirates 37-40 1483 1494 11.6% 1470 1
21 Reds 36-41 1484 1500 14.2% 1467 -2
22 Giants 36-42 1467 1496 18.1% 1451 -7
23 Blue Jays 35-42 1472 1508 5.0% 1450 -10
24 Cubs 37-41 1463 1498 20.7% 1449 1
25 Tigers 36-41 1454 1489 7.3% 1436 -2
26 Angels 30-46 1457 1517 0.2% 1434 0
27 Marlins 27-50 1442 1513 0.0% 1420 0
28 Rockies 27-51 1403 1507 0.0% 1385 0
29 Athletics 29-51 1398 1506 0.0% 1380 0
30 White Sox 21-58 1356 1510 0.0% 1343 0

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Tier 1 – The Best of the Best
Team Record Elo Opponent Elo Playoff Odds Power Score
Yankees 52-28 1595 1514 99.7% 1613
Phillies 51-26 1581 1481 99.9% 1600
Orioles 49-28 1578 1500 97.6% 1595

The Orioles had a statement series win against the Yankees last week, taking two of the three games, including a dramatic extra-innings affair on Wednesday and an old-fashioned blowout on Thursday. Unfortunately, they followed that triumph up with a pretty ugly sweep against the Astros in Houston. The Yankees weren’t immune to the weekend woes after the high emotions of that intra-divisional series; they dropped two of three to the Braves and lost Giancarlo Stanton to a hamstring injury. He joined Anthony Rizzo on the IL, and suddenly the Yankees’ offensive depth is being tested.

The Phillies signed Cristopher Sánchez to a four-year extension over the weekend, and he celebrated by spinning seven shutout innings against the Diamondbacks on Sunday. Philadelphia now has the three best qualified starters in the NL by ERA — and Aaron Nola isn’t one of them. Bryce Harper is producing like he wants to win another MVP. Meanwhile, the calendar says June so Kyle Schwarber is crushing the ball.

Tier 2 – On the Cusp of Greatness
Team Record Elo Opponent Elo Playoff Odds Power Score
Guardians 49-26 1573 1483 91.6% 1592
Dodgers 48-31 1558 1487 99.3% 1578
Braves 43-32 1555 1499 95.4% 1565
Mariners 45-35 1539 1494 80.1% 1552
Brewers 45-33 1527 1495 79.8% 1543

The Guardians won their fifth straight game on Sunday, sweeping the Blue Jays and overtaking the Yankees for the best record in the American League (though New York still has the most wins in the majors, with 52). Cleveland travels to Baltimore and Kansas City this week in two pretty big tests of the team’s mettle.

The Dodgers haven’t missed Mookie Betts or Yoshinobu Yamamoto yet thanks to the scorching hot Shohei Ohtani. He blasted four home runs last week and is now up to nine in June to go along with a 207 wRC+ this month.

After falling to 10 games back in the NL East on June 11, the Braves have strung together three series wins in a row and have gone 8-3 in that stretch. That cut the deficit down to seven games. Michael Harris II joined Ronald Acuña Jr. on the IL last week, but the rest of their offensive stars have shown a bit of life recently. But the real reason why they should still be considered one of the better teams in the league is because of their pitching staff; over these last 11 games, they’ve allowed just 2.9 runs per game.

The Mariners’ fun differential was nowhere to be found last week; they lost back-to-back series to the Guardians and Marlins on the road. Seattle has a gauntlet of AL Wild Card contenders on the horizon, beginning this week with series against the Rays, Twins, Orioles, and Blue Jays coming up. The Mariners still have a solid grip on the AL West, but last week showed just how razor thin their margin for error is without any significant upgrades to their lineup.

Tier 3 – Solid Contenders
Team Record Elo Opponent Elo Playoff Odds Power Score
Red Sox 42-36 1545 1509 37.1% 1539
Twins 43-35 1525 1485 73.9% 1527
Astros 38-40 1534 1502 43.6% 1514
Cardinals 39-37 1518 1490 43.7% 1513
Mets 37-39 1517 1515 34.1% 1502

The Red Sox hovered around .500 for essentially the entire season — never climbing more than four games over and never falling more than two games below that mark. Until last week, that is. Their series win over the Yankees a couple of weekends ago gave them the momentum to sweep the Blue Jays and win their weekend series over the Reds, pushing them six games over .500 and into sole possession of the final AL Wild Card spot.

Perhaps the Astros’ sweep of the Orioles last weekend will end up being the turning point for what has been an otherwise disappointing season. They’ve now won three series in a row and have cut their deficit in the AL West from 10 games to just six in the span of a week. Even so, last week was far from ideal. They finally decided to cut the struggling José Abreu, and their pitching staff suffered yet another injury; this time it was Justin Verlander, who was placed on the IL with neck discomfort on Tuesday. Still, the Astros definitely should not be counted out of the playoff picture yet.

The Cardinals and Mets seem to be the two teams in the NL Wild Card race with the most forward momentum right now. St. Louis swept the Giants over the weekend to pull within five games of the Brewers in the NL Central. And no team has been better this month than the Mets, who are 13-6 in June following their brutal 9-19 May. New York’s bats have awoken during the scorching stretch, with a 142 wRC+ that ranks first in the majors this month. Of course, because they’re the Mets, they capped off their week with a self-inflicted wound. Closer Edwin Díaz was ejected before pitching the ninth inning of Sunday’s 5-2 win over the Cubs for a sticky substance violation; his ejection triggered an automatic 10-game suspension.

Tier 4 – The AL Melee
Team Record Elo Opponent Elo Playoff Odds Power Score
Royals 42-37 1488 1502 29.3% 1485
Rays 38-40 1502 1496 16.9% 1482
Rangers 37-40 1491 1503 17.6% 1474
Blue Jays 35-42 1472 1508 5.0% 1450
Tigers 36-41 1454 1489 7.3% 1436

Last week, I had this group of fringe AL contenders behind the much larger NL group, but I think these five teams are a bit better than that blob of clubs fighting over the NL Wild Card. Right now, the Rays and Rangers look like they’re trending upward, while the Royals and Blue Jays have had pretty terrible fortnights.

After series wins against the Twins and Pirates, the Rays are tied with the Astros in the AL Wild Card standings, and just like Houston, it’s too early to count Tampa Bay out of the race. The same could be said of the Rangers, who are only a half-game behind the Rays and just swept the Royals over the weekend. Texas also welcomed back Max Scherzer on Sunday, the first of what is expected to be a number of reinforcements from the injured list over the next few months.

The Royals have really floundered these past two weeks, winning just three times in their last 13 games. They’ve lost their grip on a Wild Card spot and are now nine games back in the AL Central. Their Cinderella Story might have been too good to be true, though there’s plenty of season left for them to rediscover some of their magic — after all, they have six more games against the White Sox. For now, Kansas City returns home for three games against the Marlins before hosting the Guardians for a four-game set over the weekend.

It’s probably too late for the Blue Jays to regain any ground in the playoff race at this point; they lost all six games they played last week and have won just three times over their last 12 games. Making matters worse, their no. 2 prospect, Orelvis Martinez, was suspended 80 games on Sunday for violating the league’s performance-enhancing drugs policy.

The Tigers took advantage of Toronto’s losing streak to leap the Jays in the Wild Card standings. Detroit’s -6 run differential and +9 Base Runs differential paints a much better picture than its actual record 36-41 record. The biggest issue for the Tigers is their lackluster offense; their 11-run outburst on Sunday broke a stretch of six games in which they had scored two or fewer runs. Their starting rotation has been carrying them for essentially the entire season, and they’re approaching the point where they need to make a decision about whether they want to keep Jack Flaherty for the stretch run or try to get a haul of prospects for the resurgent starter.

Tier 5 – The NL Melee
Team Record Elo Opponent Elo Playoff Odds Power Score
Padres 41-41 1509 1509 50.1% 1499
Diamondbacks 38-40 1497 1493 29.7% 1484
Nationals 38-39 1488 1502 3.5% 1479
Pirates 37-40 1483 1494 11.6% 1470
Reds 36-41 1484 1500 14.2% 1467
Giants 36-42 1467 1496 18.1% 1451
Cubs 37-41 1463 1498 20.7% 1449

Going .500 in a given week is the measuring stick of success for the teams in this tier. That bare minimum means they’re sticking around in the crowded NL Wild Card race without actually pulling too far ahead or falling too far behind. The Diamondbacks, Nationals, Pirates, and Cubs all met that meager mark last week. Meanwhile, the Padres won three of four against the Brewers over the weekend to cap off a 4-3 week and maintain their loose grip on the final Wild Card spot. It feels like the whole NL playoff picture is like a giant Pepe Silvia bulletin board.

The Reds lost both of their series last week and have dropped in the standings just as quickly as they climbed them a few weeks ago. Their youngsters are still battling though plenty of inconsistency as they work out the growing pains of trying to develop in the big leagues. They’ll welcome back Noelvi Marte from his 80-game suspension soon — he’s eligible to be activated on June 27 — and Matt McLain has shown some recent progress in his rehab from his shoulder injury. Those two should provide some support for the lineup whenever they rejoin the club.

Despite playing in the Rickwood Field game on Thursday night and honoring franchise icon Willie Mays after he died at 93 on Tuesday, the Giants had a week to forget on the field. They were swept by the Cardinals over the weekend and now carry a five-game losing streak into Monday night’s series opener against the Cubs in San Francisco. This is a huge four-game set; Chicago is one of the teams immediately ahead of the Giants in the Wild Card standings. And yet despite these woes — because this is the middling National League — San Francisco is only three games behind the Padres for the final playoff berth.

Tier 6 – Hope Deferred
Team Record Elo Opponent Elo Playoff Odds Power Score
Angels 30-46 1457 1517 0.2% 1434
Marlins 27-50 1442 1513 0.0% 1420
Rockies 27-51 1403 1507 0.0% 1385
Athletics 29-51 1398 1506 0.0% 1380

The Angels may have avoided a serious injury scare last weekend: Zach Neto had to be removed from Saturday’s game, but it doesn’t appear to be a serious issue. That’s good, because Neto has been one of the precious few bright spots for the Halos this year.

The Marlins had three walk-off victories in a row last week — and won both of their series to boot — but that’s pretty much the only thing to celebrate in Miami. They had to scratch both Jesús Luzardo and Braxton Garrett from their scheduled starts last weekend, and now their starting rotation is devoid of any of the young, promising starters they’ve developed over the last few years. With so many injuries decimating their youth movement, it’s starting to feel like this season is a complete lost cause, without any hint of momentum to look forward to next year.

Tier 7 – The White Sox
Team Record Elo Opponent Elo Playoff Odds Power Score
White Sox 21-58 1356 1510 0.0% 1343

There is one problem with putting the White Sox in their own tier below that group of four rebuilding clubs above them: I have to write something about them each week. They won twice last week, which should be considered a moral victory given the historically bad pace they were on a few weeks ago. They’re still on track to lose 119 games, which would match the modern record.





Jake Mailhot is a contributor to FanGraphs. A long-suffering Mariners fan, he also writes about them for Lookout Landing. Follow him on BlueSky @jakemailhot.

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markakis21
2 years ago

It’s nice to see the Royals dropping in the standings. I didn’t like all known laws of baseball being challenged like that 😀

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  markakis21

I looked into it.
A lot of it is Perez coming back to earth after his unholy april.
Witt can’t do it alone.

David Klein
2 years ago

Having Alvarez and Vientos in the lineup over sinkholes like Narvaez and Baty has had a huge positive impact on the offense I’m starting to believe in Vientos. I’ve always believed in Alvarez.

Idli Amin, The Last King of SambarMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  David Klein

Vientos’s swinging strike rate is still terrible. His numbers will crater soon enough. (Probably not long after they get swept by the Yankees and Astros.)

Left of Centerfield
2 years ago

Sometimes I don’t understand the tiers. For example, the Guardian’s ELO is much closer to the Phillies and the O’s than it is to any team in their tier.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  Jake Mailhot

If they do well against the O’s there won’t be much excuse to downgrade them. Especially if Williams does well in his return. Until then, the rotation is still questionable…
…while offense is decent and the outfield ranges from workable to outstanding. All Hail Kwan! 😉

soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

“questionable” is being kind

Their starting pitchers are ranked 30th in WAR.

fjtorres
2 years ago

Most are 5 and done.
Young.
And erratic.

But they win and 4 have prospect pedigrees.
And they’re young.

And, again, the team wins.
Losing Bieber hurt big time.
But they’re still winning after three months and 80 games.

It’s not as if the rotation was a dumpster fire of 2 inning starts.
If you drill down at their performance the problem is they’re all homer prone. One per start pretty much guaranteed. But the majority are with bases empty. Lots of K’s, few walks.
There is upside in the rotation.

But they need veteran leadership.
(And no, Carrasco doesn’t count.)

Left of Centerfield
2 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

They’re also 17-9 against teams with winning records. So they’re doing something right. If the season ended today, Vogt would be the runaway winner for manager of the year.

fjtorres
2 years ago

Defense is part of it.
And the bullpen.
Also their freakish productivity.
Last friday they hit Toronto with a 70-pitch inning, 7 runs, on 5 hits and 5 walks.

But they are doing other weird things, like getting a useful ‘pen arm out of a DFA’ed Avila for just cash. There’s Fry and Schneemann, coming out of nowhere.

Smoke and mirrors working, but for how long?

fjtorres
2 years ago

18-9 after today.
And 50 wins before the end of june.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
2 years ago

The tiers are idiosyncratic and inscrutable. Imagine putting the Yankees on top after losing to LA, ATL, and BAL and losing players to the IL since the last update. Baffling to lower LAD to reify NYY.

its0in0the0cards
2 years ago

I get more mileage following division and wild card races. Give me those with SOS and records the past two weeks, and talk about them. Who cares about “power rankings,” anyway, even if they were accurate? What really matters is who makes the playoffs, since once they get in no one knows who’s going to win.

frankenspock
2 years ago

Especially when if you go by PythWL, the Yankees are fifth among the top group (Phillies and Dodgers at the top). But hey, it’s the Yankees so we must all stare open-mouthed in wonder and awe at their regular season competence.

dkdc
2 years ago

The Guardians are right up there in run differential with the Os, Phil’s, Yanks, and Dodgers, but their Baseruns run differential is much lower, as is total team WAR.

Looks like this is due to sequencing? They have 109 team RC+ (good for 9th), but are #1 with RISP with a 139 RC+.

Left of Centerfield
2 years ago
Reply to  dkdc

True but my understanding is these rankings are mostly based on ELO.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
2 years ago

Mr Blue Sky would never

frankenspock
2 years ago

Well, you see, the tiers are essentially meaningless since they’re almost entirely vibes-based. Instead of going with an actual formula like pythagorean W-L or run differential, the author uses a complex blend of wizardry that largely relies on feels, and then shakes the bag. And whatever comes out, comes out.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  frankenspock

For the tiers, yes, he shuffles somewhat to make themes out of them, but the rankings themselves are based purely on Elo and Opponents’ Elo.

MikeSMember since 2020
2 years ago

You have my permission to not write anything about the White Sox, or acknowledge their existence.

macseriesMember since 2022
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

go sox

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  macseries

BoSox? They’re coming on…

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

Pretty much the only thing that’s interesting about the White Sox right now is them potentially trading Crochet and Fedde. And Robert too, although it’s hard to imagine them getting the sort of value right now for him that they would have gotten last offseason.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Although if they do trade all three of those guys (plus guys on expiring contracts like DeJong, Pham, Brebbia, Pillar), and maybe even a few other guys like Moncada and Sheets they could make an all-time run for being bad in the second half.

Right now, they have too much talent to be this bad going forward. But if they were rocking a lineup with Eloy, Korey Lee, Andrew Vaughn, Danny Mendick, Nicky Lopez, Lenyn Sosa, Benintendi, DeLoach, and Colas / Julks, they could really make some (terrible) noise.

MikeSMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I don’t think it will happen, but Vaughn or Sheets are technically an upgrade at 1B for the Yankees, Red Sox, and Astros. But the White Sox would probably have to move both of them in order to get worse since they routinely play one of them out of position as it is.

Lopez is also as good as any 2B has been for Boston this year. Which is not to say he has been good.

rickdugo3000
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

He has not been as good as David Hamilton. Which is to say fewer than five second basemen in the MLB have been as good as David Hamilton.

proiste
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

Put some respect on my guy David Hamilton’s name

PressXToJason
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeS
  1. Only an upgrade until Casas is back.
  2. As the others said, not better than Hamilton. And right now, Hamilton’s the second baseman, since our outfield health is finally unquestionably better than our infield health.
NATS FanMember since 2018
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I would like Fedde to return to DC!

david k
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

But if you’re an Angels fan, or a Rockies fan, or a Marlins fan, it would probably be appreciated that their lousy seasons can be forgotten, with more emphasis on the woes of another team.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago

At this point, who is a buyer at the deadline and who isn’t probably depends on the GM’s temperament more than anything. So the Braves and Padres will be aggressive, with the Phillies (outfield) and Yankees (infield) looking for position players but in a somewhat more measured way. The Orioles, Guardians, Dodgers, Mariners, Brewers, and Twins should all be aggressive buyers but I think they will be cautious buyers, because being cautious is how they got to this point.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

If I had to pick, I’d say the Red Sox probably deserve to be in the same tier as the Brewers. The individual players have performed very well, but they’re running into some bad luck somewhere along the line, since they have the BaseRuns record of a team with several more wins. I’m not sure how much longer David Hamilton, Connor Wong, and (to a lesser extent) Tyler O’Neill can continue to hit like this. Or Tanner Houck and Kutter Crawford continuing to pitch like this. But the team has been playing very well up to this point.

It’s wild seeing the Dodgers and Braves in the second tier. The injury woes are probably a bigger problem for the Braves (who will not get Acuna or Strider back this year) than for the Dodgers (who probably will get Betts and Yamamoto back), so I’d expect the Dodgers to do well.

The super-underrated team by this power score method (and their own record, too!) is the Padres. They really need Musgrove and Darvish healthy and performing to make playoff noise, but the lineup is super dangerous.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The Dodgers still have Ohtani and Freeman and look to get Kershaw back. And they’ve banked 48 wins with a nine game lead in a…muddled…division.

They’ll be fine through sept, at worst.

david k
2 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

They’ll be fine through sept, at worst.”

I don’t think Dodger fans want to hear that!

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  david k

No. But if they go against the Philies with today’s rotation it is going to take a lot of hitting to get to november.

steveo
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The Dodgers are more paper tiger-y than they’ve been in years. Their pitching staff is held together by duct tape. Their most reliable starter is somehow Tyler Glasnow. Their lineup without Mookie is very mediocre outside of Shohei/Freeman/Smith/Teoscar. They’re lucky the NL West is bad or they’d be at risk of losing the division. Then again, it doesn’t even matter since every team with a pulse gets into the playoffs.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  steveo

“Their lineup without that perennial MVP candidate is mediocre, if you ignore the two other perennial MVP candidates and another couple hitters with a wRC+ of 130” kind of shows the opposite of what you intend.

The starting pitching sure looks rickety, though. Their entire projected rotation is either dealing with some injury issue or is Tyler Glasnow or James Paxton. (I guess Walker Buehler too but he is below replacement). That one could go a bunch of different ways.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Any offense would be mediocre if you didn’t count their four best healthy hitters.

frankenspock
2 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Lol no

airforce21oneMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Shohei/Freeman/Smith/Teoscar is potentially one of the best foursomes in any lineup. I’d even say that foursome is historically good.

So to say that a team that temporarily loses one of the top 5 players in MLB temporarily is good “outside” of another historically good foursome is kind of weird.

soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think the Guardians pretty desperately need to add pitching. The starting pitching(last in the majors in WAR) has been bad, and they’ve been working the bullpen(leading the majors in WAR) hard as a result.

If overuse makes the bullpen go south, things could get ugly in a hurry.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago

This is another thing that the Orioles, Brewers, and Guardians have in common: They’re all in desperate need of more starting pitching, in particular near the front end. Because of the relatively few sellers and the front office’s conservative outlook I’m not seeing them as strong contenders for Crochet, who is going to a lot to trade for. But Flaherty and Luzardo are possible. And they might have interest in guys to just get them through the season like Fedde, Severino, Manaea, Zack Littell, and Trevor Williams. If the last four are even available. People keep including Tyler Anderson in that list too, but that ERA is not going to hold.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Luzardo got injured again.
Trading for him is a a hail mary because Miami won’t let him go cheap. Might as well wait til the offseason to see how he does in Sept.

Severino is going to be very popular, methinks, come the deadline.
His floor (and durability–innings wise) is known.
Not as likely to run out of gas in sept as a converted reliever.

Last edited 2 years ago by fjtorres
EonADSMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

I’d like an inter-division trade for Fedde and maybe Trevor Williams from Washington. Williams has the high floor durability and Fedde has been a very pleasant surprise.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

And what goes out?
It’s easy to target what to get, less so picking what goes out that the other guys actually want. Washington is going to want MLB-ready talent and ChiSox will want high ceiling talent. Cleveland has little of the former and unlikely to move the latter.

Severino is the best they can hope for.

frankenspock
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Who isn’t “desperate for starting pitching,” though?

airforce21oneMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  frankenspock

Phillies, Mariners

EonADSMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  airforce21one

Rangers are in a different way; given that most of their best options are on the IL until the second half, they aren’t likely to pursue upgrades from outside the org.

Last edited 2 years ago by EonADS
Left of Centerfield
2 years ago

Actually they’re not working the bullpen that hard. They’re 13th in the majors in reliever innings and 24th in PAs. Granted they’re last in the majors in games played so there’s some distortion there. But the 13th vs 24th is a factor of having such a good bullpen. Their relievers don’t work that hard when they pitch.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

You mean “depends on whether or not ownership thinks it’ll be more profitable to edge into the playoffs or sit it out”

edit: the Dodgers are cautious? They spend more money on relievers than some teams do on their entire payroll. who gives multiple years to Joe Kelly (or, say, $700m to one guy)? The Dodgers are a lot of things, but I’m not sure cautious is the word I’d use

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FrodoBeck
2 years ago

First of all, definitely not more on relievers than teams do on their whole payroll, but maybe you were just being hyperbolic.

Second, he likely means ‘cautious’ with regards to trading for guys at the deadline. The Dodgers have a history of trading for big pieces at the trade deadline, but you’d be hard-pressed to find a trade in their history where they overpaid for a guy just because they felt they needed another piece (outside of Yordan for Josh Fields, which has its own quirks).

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago

FrodoBeck covered some of this already, but the Dodgers are the type of team that doesn’t trade because they want to fill a hole. Instead, they make trades because they have prospects who aren’t part of their plans and want to see what they can get for them.

More specifically, the Dodgers tend to only deal guys who they have clearly identified as not being part of the team’s plans, and often actively shop those players (Jose De Leon and Michael Busch are key examples of that).

When the Dodgers have well-regarded prospects that they have identified as not being part of the future, that’s when the bigger trades tend to happen. I don’t necessarily know who they would be willing to trade right now, but unless other teams are high on Cartaya or the Dodgers are low on Rushing or River Ryan it’s hard to see any bigger deals come together.

wheelhouseMember since 2022
2 years ago

What exactly do the Yankees need to do to drop in these? They’ve been spanked on national television three weekends in a row, lost 7 of their last 10, and now one of their only moderately good hitters is out for a month. Did the acquisition of famously not-good-enough-for-the-2024-Oakland-A’s JD Davis buoy them this week?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  wheelhouse

They still have the most wins in MLB and therefore have near-100% playoff odds, so even if they drop it would probably only be a tier at first.

The real “moment of truth” for them is going to be in early to mid July, when they play the Red Sox and Orioles again (and Rays). If they are dropping most or all of their games against the Red Sox and Orioles again, there is a decent chance they’re going to be out of the division lead. And then you’ll see some changes here.

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fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

They’ve done all that with Rizzo, Torres, and LeMahieu doing very little.
(Rizzo going on the IL might even be a bonus.)

The rotation has been solid (Without Cole!) and the bullpen good. In a year where most contenders are looking for at least one starter, their quandary is what to do with Gil.

As long as Judge, Soto, and Volpe stay healthy they’ll be there in october. Even if all they do is more dumpster dives like they did this weekend.

hopbittersMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  wheelhouse

They should probably send the Astros a nice gift basket for keeping them up there, but for some reason, I don’t expect that they will.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  wheelhouse

Davis can hardly be as bad as Rizzo and LeMahieu.
And if nothing else, he can suit up.

david k
2 years ago
Reply to  wheelhouse

Every team goes through these stretches where they look worse than they really are (as the Yanks are in right now) and stretches when they look better than they really are (as the Yanks did when they piled up that amazing streak of a large number of consecutive games where their starting pitchers gave up 2 runs or less in 6 innings or more, or something like that). These things tend to go in cycles.

As far as the quandary of what to do with Gil, that will probably resolve itself at some point, because it’s almost impossible to go half a season without one of your starters missing a few starts. SOMEONE will go on the DL and open up a spot for him again, but if he’s relegated to the bullpen, they don’t want to have him lose the ability to be “stretched out” when needed to get back to the rotation if he’s only pitching 1 or 2 innings at a time for a while, so that will be interesting. At least I am assuming with Cole back that he will be the odd man out of the rotation.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  david k

The yanks could go with a six man rotation for a while to minimize the innings on Cole, Rodon, Gil…

david k
2 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

I agree the six-man rotation may be a possible option. But theoretically, with one less reliever, that may make the starters go a little deeper, so their innings may essentially cancel out, or shift the delta-innings burden those in the bullpen (same number of IP distributed amongst one less reliever). Not sure how much of an impact that would be though.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  david k

This is correct—someone is always going to be hurt. I don’t think a single team over the last 5 years has had too much starting pitching.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago

All of the teams between 20 and 25 on this list–the Pirates, Reds, Giants, Blue Jays, Cubs, and Tigers–look pretty uninspiring. All of them should be sellers but these are a lot of front offices that are desperate for some good results, so I think it’s not super likely. Some of these teams need retooling, but others need a hard reset.

I’d add the Nationals to that group too. Hopefully they’ll consider moving their bullpen arms and expiring contracts but they might be too caught up in the fun. With so few sellers this deadline, they might be able to get some good prospects that are near-MLB ready to complement the loads of interesting position players they have in the upper minors.

I’m having a hard time seeing the Cardinals, Mets, or Rays making a run here. I think the Cardinals are probably holding and the Mets and Rays are going to sell a little bit at the deadline. The Cardinals feel like they really need some good news, while the Mets and Rays have front offices who are pretty honest with themselves about where they are.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The Pirates and Reds bear watching.
The Reds have underperformed but they have pitching and the Pirates are oh-so-close to the third WC,

And Skenes, Jones, and Keller in a short series?
The need a corner bat or two and those can be had cheap.
They’re probably a year away but stranger things have happened.

airforce21oneMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

If we are talking the Pirates making the playoffs, how many innings have Skenes and Jones pitched on the year already?

NATS FanMember since 2018
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I want the nationals to trade Rosario and Gallo if possible, and bring up Wood and Call. If wood slugs .500 or better and the remaining guys have second halves as good or better than the first half, then we will likely win a wild card. Then signing free agents in the offseason will be easy.

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Youppi!
2 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

I think you meant to say “DFA” instead of trade. Kudos to Rizzo if he can trade them for a warm body. Maybe Rosario turns it a bit around but Gallo is done. He simply cannot hit. Call up Wood after he’s healthy.

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airforce21oneMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

What exactly would you trade Gallo for?

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  airforce21one

Another bad contract?

NATS FanMember since 2018
2 years ago
Reply to  airforce21one

Fv35 reliever

frankenspock
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Giants will never sell. It’s not in their DNA. They hold on to players too long and make changes too late. They have been in perpetual “one more guy” mode since 2015 and if Zaidi holds a fire sale his job is gone, the fans have completely lost patience with him. That franchise is a mess and will be until ownership decides enough luster has worn off the mini-dynasty era that they need to actually do a rebuild.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  frankenspock

A quandary indeed since a proper rebuild typically starts with a fire sale.

curt schillings ketchup bottle
2 years ago

Nice IASIP reference

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
2 years ago

The Red Sox have suddenly become a completely different team than they were a month ago. Duran has been nothing short of sensational, Hamilton can’t be as good as he has played but the real question is whether Rafaela is what he has showed since June 12. Despite a hiccup in Cincinnati he has looked like a clone of Mookie. Brilliant defense in CF and versatility that has value. His .244 doesn’t look bad in a game in which .242 is the average. The Red Sox rotation isn’t bad. Houck looks like he did back in 2020 and Pivetta, Crawford and Bello fit in most rotations. The bullpen has become as solid as any in the game with 7 guys who can be trusted. So much so that Cora has abandoned even the idea of a 5th starter and is using a bullpen game in its stead. The rest of the season just could be a lot of fun.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

Now this is a team that could use another arm to get them through the season.

PressXToJason
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

What a time to have finally cut bait on Sale.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  PressXToJason

Stuff happens.
They needed a 2B more than an oft-injured veteran starter.
So far, they have neither…
…but that can change.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

My sister hopes so. 😀
The Rays are going to have to fight them for the last wild card.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

Last night’s game just upped the excitement level by an infinite amount. In the meantime it is hard to comprehend just how poorly the Blue Jays are playing. Pearson’s reaction after the play that opened the door in the 8th was classic.

MRDXolMember since 2021
2 years ago

Re the White Sox: might I suggest reporting instead on the adventures of their AA farm team, the Birmingham Barons?

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  MRDXol

Reports from 2026?

david k
2 years ago

What do you consider the “modern record”? Didn’t the Mets go 40-120 back in their inaugural 1962 season? That would be more losses than whatever you are thinking the 119 record is.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  david k

That’s clearly an oversight, what he is probably doing is referring to the won-loss since 162 games started. Which is the 2003 Tigers, which is IMO the gold standard for bad teams. It wasn’t an expansion team. The Cardinals (or Orioles) didn’t buy them and transfer all their good players away. It took place in the draft era with relatively even talent across the league. And they were still horrible.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Before the shenanigans, the Spiders were a very good team.
Seven straight winning seasons 1892-96.
Six of their players ended in the HOF, including Cy Young.

Instead of cooking up “Guardians” Dolan should have embraced that history.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The 1962 season still had 162 games in both leagues. The Mets just had two games they didn’t make up at some point (including a tie), which sometimes happens when there are no playoff implications.

Your argument about them being an expansion team is still valid, though.

NATS FanMember since 2018
2 years ago

18th for the Nationals feels right!

filter2Member since 2019
2 years ago

It feels like the Orioles’ June schedule is finally catching up to them. Only 1 off day in the whole month (17 straight days with a game 5/30-6/16, then 13 straight 6/18-7/1) is just brutal. I didn’t do an exhaustive search but looking through other top 5ish teams in the league, none of them have a similar stretch in their schedule. A few have only 1 day off in July (7/1) but conveniently have the ASB in the middle of the month to break it up (Yankees don’t have a month with fewer than 3 off days, even excluding the ASB in July). The O’s had a similar stretch last season in July-August and then another 17 straight in Sept and it really wore them down in the second half. You can only play the schedule in front of you but this just feels like poor schedule design when a team has five off days in March/April and only 1 in June.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  filter2

Lots of off days (reducing home games) in april is common for teams in the north without roofed stadiums.
The O’s aren’t as far north but they’re not alone.

Cleveland, for one, has a tough stretch coming, with doubleheaders at home and on the road.

random Colorado guy
2 years ago

An oddity is that both the Dodgers and the Mariners, while leading their divisions, have no fewer than eight, that’s 8, pitchers on the 60-day disabled list. In fact, while I haven’t run any statistical tests, the mark-1 eyeball suggests that there is a direct correlation this year between teams’ winning percentage and the number of guys they have on one DL or another. It’s not an overpowering correlation, but it sure looks as if the more successful teams have more players out with injuries. It’s almost as though there’s addition by subtraction going on. Or am I imagining this correlation?

fjtorres
2 years ago

Cleveland hasn’t had as many but Bieber is a big hole and Williams has been missed.
Pitching injuries are routine by now; teams succeeding despite them is a sign of team depth. GMs don’t know who will go down but they have to prepare because some body will.