Finding Homes for the Top Remaining Free Agents
Even before this week’s polar vortex hit the Midwest and the Northeast, the hot stove had failed to generate adequate heat. It’s the second winter in a row that this has happened, this time with a much stronger free agent class. With less than two weeks to go before pitchers and catchers report to spring training, more than 100 free agents remain unsigned. According to The Athletic’s Jayson Stark, 16 teams haven’t signed a free agent to a multi-year deal, and 23 haven’t done one longer than two years. This isn’t just a matter of teams waiting out a handful of players in order to get a slight or even steep discount to fill that last need; it’s yet another sign of an increasingly dysfunctional relationship between the union and the league. As if in concert, big-spending teams such as the Dodgers, Yankees, and Cubs are suddenly turned austere, as if the goal were to fly tidier balance sheets over their ballparks, instead of championship banners.
Even some of the winter’s best free agents have yet to find a home. It’s not just Manny Machado and Bryce Harper, who ranked first and second on our Top 50 Free Agents list, who remain unsigned. Even after the Astros inked Wade Miley to a one-year, $4.5 million deal on Thursday, a total of 10 players within the top 50 are still without a home — setting the three pitchers on that list aside, that’s almost enough to fill out a makeshift lineup if the versatile Marwin Gonzalez can play two positions at once. Here’s the list, with the previous and projected WAR totals and crowdsourced contract information taken from our big board:
| Rk | Name | Pos | Prev Team | Age | Prev WAR | Proj WAR | Med Years | Med Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Manny Machado | SS | Dodgers | 26 | 6.2 | 5.0 | 8 | $256.0M |
| 2 | Bryce Harper | RF | Nationals | 26 | 3.5 | 4.9 | 10 | $330.0M |
| 4 | Dallas Keuchel | SP | Astros | 31 | 3.6 | 3.3 | 4 | $79.0M |
| 12 | Craig Kimbrel | RP | Red Sox | 31 | 1.5 | 2.1 | 4 | $64.0M |
| 15 | Marwin Gonzalez | UT | Astros | 30 | 1.6 | 1.8 | 3 | $30.0M |
| 22 | Mike Moustakas | 3B | Brewers | 30 | 2.4 | 2.8 | 3 | $36.0M |
| 33 | Gio Gonzalez | SP | Brewers | 33 | 2.0 | 0.8 | 2 | $24.0M |
| 41 | Adam Jones | CF | Orioles | 33 | 0.5 | 1.2 | 2 | $20.0M |
| 43 | Martin Maldonado | C | Astros | 32 | 0.9 | 1.0 | 2 | $10.0M |
| 47 | Jose Iglesias | SS | Tigers | 29 | 2.5 | 1.7 | 3 | $27.0M |
| Average | 30.3 | 2.4 | 2.3 |
This isn’t an especially aged group or one facing imminent declines. Aside from the top two players, none of them projects to wind up anywhere close to a nine-figure deal, and while some of this group may still be unsigned specifically because certain teams are waiting for the biggest dominoes to fall, that explanation only goes so far.
What follows here is one scribe’s attempt to find homes for these 10 players, using a combination of our projected standings and depth charts, MLB Trade Rumors, Roster Resource, Cot’s Contracts, and peyote-induced vis— er, let’s just say some imagination. Consider it prescriptive, rather than predictive. I’m not here to listen to excuses why billionaires and faceless corporations won’t make these moves; I’m here to spend their record revenues. I’ll work from the bottom of the list to the top, because not everything has to be about Bryce and Manny. Since our crack squadron has already written about these players in the free agent context just a few short months ago, and we can assume that their skills haven’t changed appreciably since then, I won’t belabor my descriptions of these players except where relevant.
Jose Iglesias: Brewers
Nobody will ever confuse him for Machado, but Iglesias is strong enough in the field — averaging 9.3 UZR over the past three seasons, with a career UZR/150 of 9.9 — that even with his wet noodle of a bat (90 wRC+ last year, 83 for his career), he’s managed to be a very competent regular, averaging 2.1 WAR in 131 games per season over the last three years. Just about every contender is set at shortstop, but the one that stands out in terms of a particularly grim projection is the Brewers, whose starter, Orlando Arcia, is forecast for just 1.1 WAR in 2019, his age-24 season.
Highly touted as a prospect, Arcia has produced just 0.6 WAR in 327 games over the past three seasons. Last year, he hit .236/.268/.307 for a 54 wRC+, with 0.0 UZR and -0.4 WAR. As Dan Szymborski pointed out, his ZiPS projection system, which once loved Arcia as a prospect, has lost hope. At the very least, Iglesias would provide some insurance at an affordable price, though realistically, he’s more likely to wind up with a non-contender unless a spring injury strikes a bigger-named player.
Martin Maldonado: Phillies
An excellent pitch-framer (+5.9 runs last year according to Baseball Prospectus, after +27.2 in 2017) with a good arm as well, Maldonado doesn’t hit much (74 wRC+), but the package would still be an upgrade on many a backup. The Phillies’ lefty-swinging Andrew Knapp does fit into some kind of platoon with righty-swinging starter Jorge Alfaro, but that hardly matters when you can’t hit (68 wRC+ last year, 81 in 419 PA spread over two seasons), and Knapp isn’t much of a framer (-9.6 runs over two seasons) either. Pairing Maldonado with Alfaro (+12.3 runs) would give the Phillies an excellent strike-snatcher behind the plate every day, which can’t hurt given the quality of their defense, which admittedly is receiving some upgrades.
Adam Jones: Indians
It’s fair to raise an eyebrow regarding the brutal defensive metrics (24.1 UZR and -30 DRS over the past two years) that suggest Jones’ days as a regular center fielder are over. According to Statcast, he’s now just about the slowest one around, and deeper positioning hasn’t helped (hat tip to Mike Petriello for the pointers to that data). His offense is heading in the wrong direction, too, but there are teams for which he’d still be an upgrade. One look at the Indians’ outfield, which ranks 29th in left field (0.8 WAR) and 28th in right field, with Jordan Luplow and Tyler Naquin the primaries in some combination, suggests that Cleveland is among them; they have the legitimately above-average Leonys Martin in center field, so Jones wouldn’t be needed as much in that capacity.
Gio Gonzalez: A’s
He walks too many guys for most peoples’ tastes — 10.7% last year, 9.8% for his career — but Gonzalez is a durable mid-rotation lefty who over the last four seasons has averaged 32 starts, 181 innings, and 3.0 WAR, with a 3.85 ERA and 3.73 FIP. While he would make sense as a rotation stabilizer for the Padres, who have just one starter who’s ever thrown more than 150 innings in a season (Luis Perdomo, who missed much of last year with a shoulder strain), he could similarly add certainty for the A’s, for whom he pitched from 2008-2011.
Oakland’s rotation currently projects as 28th in baseball, that after a year in which it resembled the dwindling cast of a horror movie, with four pitchers succumbing to Tommy John surgery (Jharel Cotton, Kendall Graveman, Daniel Gosset, and A.J. Puk), one to thoracic outlet surgery (Andrew Triggs), and one to arthroscopic shoulder surgery, which could sideline him all season (Sean Manaea). Yes, they have a glut of guys without minor league options, including Chris Bassitt and Daniel Mengden, but Gonzalez would be a significant upgrade nonetheless.
Mike Moustakas: Padres
A victim of the freeze-out for the second straight winter, Moustakas is a solidly above-average player — particularly given that his 2017 defensive numbers look like an aberration — at a time when the hot corner abounds with stars. He’s positioned as the fall-back option for the Phillies, White Sox, and perhaps even the Padres if they don’t get Machado, which has to be a nerve-wracking situation for him as spring training approaches. Since San Diego seems like the least likely of those three teams to land Manny, they’re a sensible choice here, and I’ll further that by stating that the Moose will provide a better return on investment than his fellow ex-Royal, Eric Hosmer, who managed just a 95 wRC+ and -0.1 WAR in the first season of his eight-year, $144 million deal.
Marwin Gonzalez: Rockies
There aren’t many teams who couldn’t find room for this versatile switch-hitter, who’s been above-average against both righties and lefties over the past two seasons. While the defensive metrics suggest he’s stretched at shortstop, he can handle the other three infield positions and left field quite adequately. A return to the Astros still appears to be possible, and he’d be a worthwhile addition to the Indians, who need help in the outfield and at second base, where Jason Kipnis is a shadow of the player he was from 2012-16. To these eyes, however, he makes more sense as a National League player who can move around mid-game to help accommodate double switches. For the Rockies, he would provide insurance at second base, where Ryan McMahon and Garret Hampson are trying to fill DJ LeMahieu’s shoes, and he’s likely to outplay both current left fielder and potential returnee Carlos Gonzalez, whom the Rockies can’t seem to quit.
Craig Kimbrel: Braves
Given that only one season of his past four (2017) has been up to the standards of sheer dominance he established from 2011-15, it’s fair to suggest Kimbrel is in decline, which makes it a difficult time to be seeking a five-year deal in the $80 million-plus, Kenley Jansen/Aroldis Chapman stratosphere. With the Red Sox already well beyond the CBT threshold, a return to Boston is probably out, and while general manager Alex Anthopoulos has downplayed the possibility of a return to Atlanta, the Braves are currently projected by Cot’s Contracts to have an Opening Day payroll about $4 million below last year’s $118.3 million. That’s a conspicuously ridiculous way for a team that’s a playoff contender in a relatively new ballpark and within a competitive division to act, particularly one whose bullpen was below-average last year and who hasn’t made a substantial addition beyond waiting for Darren O’Day — acquired as part of the Kevin Gausman trade — to heal from last year’s season-ending hamstring surgery. Add to it the fact that the Braves just got a big bargain with the return of Nick Markakis and have considerable cash coming off the books after 2019 (O’Day, Josh Donaldson, Julio Tehran) and… c’mon already. Just. Pay. The. Man.
Dallas Keuchel: Angels
Until Miley signed, a return to Houston didn’t appear to be out of the question for Keuchel, who’s coming off his best season since his 2015 Cy Young-winning campaign. But according to MLB Trade Rumors, the 31-year-old southpaw has been linked to the Angels, Blue Jays, Braves, Brewers, Nationals, Padres, Phillies, Rangers and Reds at various points this winter, so he’s presumably still got more lucrative options that a discounted return to Houston. He could still conceivably land in many of those spots, but even given that he’s not the most durable pitcher on the planet — he made just 49 starts in 2016-17 due to shoulder and neck woes — he would stabilize and improve an Angels rotation that even after the free agency additions of Matt Harvey and Trevor Cahill has just one pitcher (Andrew Heaney) who threw enough innings to qualify for the ERA title last year. So long as Mike Trout can see the horizon of his contract (he’s signed through 2020), an aggressive approach has to be the order of the day for the Angels’ front office.
Bryce Harper: Dodgers
Look, I have come here to chew bubblegum and spend other people’s money, and unless somebody hands me an unopened pack of baseball cards by the end of this sentence, I’m all out of bubblegum. Five weeks ago, when the Dodgers traded Yasiel Puig, Matt Kemp, and Alex Wood to the Reds for nothing in particular, they appeared to be clearing their outfield and their payroll to accommodate a major free agent signing. Many people believed it would be Harper, who as a Las Vegas native might understandably want to play closer to home, in the West Coast’s largest market. Last week’s signing of A.J. Pollock, a true center fielder, to a four-year, $55 million deal, suggested that the door might be closed, particularly once team president Stan Kasten fumfered his way through a FanFest appearance by trying to justify the team remaining under the $206 million CBT threshold.
“There are a lot of advantages to being under [the threshold],” said Kasten, but when pressed to elaborate, he added, “I’m not going to go into that because that’s real inside baseball economic stuff,” as though such matters were beyond the comprehension of Dodgers fans who have spent nearly seven years watching the Guggenheim Baseball Management Group’s spending. From the late-2012 Adrian Gonzalez/Carl Crawford acquisition through record-setting payrolls and a series of accounting-voodoo trades — three of them involving Kemp, as well as the Mat Latos/Hector Olivera dump — fans and the entire industry have become highly attuned to the team’s balance sheet, particularly as the Dodgers’ stated goal after their near-miss in 2017 was to reset their marginal tax rate, presumably to position themselves for this winter’s big free agency class.
So yes, I’m calling BS. Harper has his warts, that’s true, but he was able to shake his problems with the shift in the second half last year, and his defensive woes don’t seem unsolvable given his above-average speed and athleticism. Even if one disregards his 2015 MVP season in an attempt to forecast him going forward, as Craig Edwards did, he’s got a very good chance of living up to his end of a mega-deal. As Edwards summarized upon examining how the comps to Harper’s age-23-to-25 production fared over their next 10 seasons:
“The bare-bones look might examine the average and see a projected contract of close to $200 million. There’s also, based on this group, a little bit better than a one-in-five shot at Hall of Fame-level production with a roughly 50% chance at being worth a $300 million contract over the next 10 years.”
Edwards conceded that opt-outs might drop that value some, and we should expect Harper’s deal to contain some bells and whistles. But if any team can afford the risks that come with signing Harper, it’s the Dodgers, and if they have to make some payroll room by bundling, say, Joc Pederson and Rich Hill in a trade, and still pay some amount of tax (via Cot’s, they’re at $7.8 million under right now), that’s doable. Harper was built for the Tinseltown spotlight, the Dodgers need more production from their outfield, and any explanations that try to minimize their ability to spend, particularly when Kasten is bragging about the likelihood of the team leading the league in attendance again, just don’t wash.
Manny Machado: Phillies
If I’m pushing the Dodgers to sign Harper despite a roster crunch, it’s reasonable to expect me to demand the same of the Yankees, and call for Machado’s services in the Bronx, right? Indeed, it’s a fair expectation, despite all of the obstacles on their roster — from keeping Miguel Andujar to adding LeMahieu and Troy Tulowitzki as a means of covering for Didi Gregirius’ Tommy John surgery-related absence. Still, the Phillies have money burning a hole in their pockets, and they arguably have a greater need given their current 79-win projection (versus the Yankees’ 96-win one). They’re well equipped to add a $30 million AAV to their payroll, and they can just as easily put Machado at shortstop if that’s a sticking point, slide newly-acquired Jean Segura back to second base (where he played with the Diamondbacks in 2016), and trade Cesar Hernandez, as they can deal third baseman Maikel Franco. As opposed to Harper to the Dodgers, I do think this one is actually likely to happen, mainly because I can’t see White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf, MLB’s resident collusion and 1994 strike hard-line veteran, paying top dollar for the top free agent (and no, you can’t talk about Albert Belle without noting that he was able to opt out after two years of his industry-shaking deal).
Will it all unfold this way for these 10 players? Hell no, and there are other plausible paths that make sense, such as Harper back to the Nationals, and Moustakas and Keuchel to the Phillies instead of Machado, who goes… to San Diego? Whether or not we need to break out the flamethrower, we should be able to do more than dream of a thaw to this frustratingly frigid market.
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
I like the Keuchel pick, though I think the Reds need him just as much. Both the Reds and the Angels are in the ‘do you really intend to be competitive with that rotation’ camp.
I can’t imagine that the Phillies won’t get one of Harper or Machado, but I think it’ll be Harper. They really need an outfielder, and I could see the logic to giving Franco & Kingery early ABs and addressing 3B in season if necessary.
Machado, I have no clue. There are just so many teams out there with money who could fit him in. My head says White Sox but my heart says Twins.
Gray/Wood/Roark/DeSclafani/Castillo, with a number of pretty good younger guys backing them up? I don’t see why they can’t be competitive with that rotation, especially considering their offense and pen. It’s not a high upside rotation, but the floor is pretty high too. Overall it’s a team with very few holes, and few long-term commitments. I don’t see how Keuchel fits, especially on a big contract.
might get some quibbles here with your implied definitions of “a number,” “pretty good,” and “pretty high”
I mean, it’s a fun rotation, and there’s upside, but I don’t see the high floor you’re talking about. I’m not betting on Gray’s regression, especially since he’s simply replaced Yankee stadium with GAB, nor am I betting on Wood/Roark to reverse their recent declines. DeSclafani is a solid 3/4, and September Castillo was awesome (even if the rest of the season was a disaster). But there are a lot of things that have to go right.
The floor here is super low in my book, way too low for a team that has to claw its way past the Brewers, Cards and Cubs.
Or, I suppose, the tactic from the Reds could be to assemble a bunch of 1 year guys, give it a shot, and then stock up the farm system at midseason if it doesn’t pan out. In that case, sure, don’t go get Keuchel.
I made this comment in the Red ZiPs projection, but people are not paying attention to the defense this team is going to trot out. It’s true that defense is less important than batting and pitching in the grand scheme of things, but every discussion I’ve seen of whether they’re contenders ignores that their shortstop should probably be playing 2nd base, their second baseman should probably be playing left field, their left fielder should probably be playing 1st base, their center fielder should probably be playing right field, their 3rd baseman has an error problem, and their right fielder is a head case who could be a gold glover in right field or he could be terrible. This was not going to be a problem when the stakes were low and they wanted to figure out how high up on the defensive spectrum these guys could go, but it’s potentially a bigger issue if you actually want to win games.
I was the downvote. You make some good points, but lost me at Puig being a head case. Puig is glorious. If you don’t like Puig you don’t want to see baseball succeed.
Puig is a glorious head case. And that’s ok.
FWIW, I love Puig too. But if you can tell me what’s going on with him on defense, please let me know, because he seems to range between being the best defensive right fielder in the league and Shin-Soo Choo.
Ummm. “Best defensive right fielder in the league”? Mookie says “Hold my beer.”
Thanks for pointing out that the Braves have not really invested much in making themselves better this offseason. Seems like they have been getting a bit of a pass after they overperformed last year. Since they screwed local taxpayers in their stadium deal, they should be able to spend more, right? Is that how these things work?
Why don’t we wait and see what the Braves do instead of jumping to conclusions. There is a ton of time left for them to spend money.
Not really.
Not jumping to conclusions about what they will do- just following up on the author’s own comments about what they have done. Which is, not a lot. After overperforming expectations last year, they seem to be counting on young players not regressing, and young pitchers staying healthy and improving. Teams like the Mets (who have spent a decent amount already this offseason) and the Dodgers (who have been above the luxury tax) have taken heat for not going after Harper, Machado, etc. A guy like Machado or Harper (or Corbin) would probably make the Braves the favorites in the division for the next half-dozen years. Instead they have a year of Donaldson (hope he stays healthy and rebounds), a year of Markakis (totally decent player on the wrong end of his career arc), and Brian McCann. If I were a fan, I think I would be frustrated that they haven’t done more.
I was frustrated when the Braves let Suzuki walk and then replaced him with Brian McCann. I mean all of us Bravo fans love McCann, but Flowers and Suzuki at the catcher position were solid as a tandem.
Other than that I have no issue with how Anthopolus has taken a conservative approach to the offseason. This is his second offseason leading the Braves and their are alot of fringe major-league prospects that need to be combed through (all SP).
He already has a solid core to compete for division titles with. He just needs to make small and smart tweaks to put them in the next level. I wouldn’t commit a large contract to anyone until he figures out what he’s gonna do with Freeman after the 2021 season, which preARB players he will try to buyout years for (Acuna/Albies), figure out if Swanson is the longterm answer at SS, and determine which of the many young star prospect SP are for real or not.
There are at least 6 young starters that, IMO, are just about locks to being starter-rotation capable (few of them will be great and most will not be);
Kyle Wright
Ian Anderson
Touki Touissant
Luiz Gohara
Bryse Wilson
Max Fried
Not counting Kolby Allard, who is more of a soft-tosser/command guy with a nice curveball. I’m not sure if he has a real future in a rotation, but he still needs more evaluation. I think he’s a great “sell-high” candidate if he can pitch well in Triple-A for half a season this year.
Donaldson at 3B this year is a no brainer. One year to a former MVP with a top-prospect (Austin Riley) just about ready.
Markakis was a very cheap resign that isn’t flashy. But I’d rather patch and fill until we know for sure what Pache/Waters will bring. Pache, defensively, is ready for the majors. He just isn’t much of a major league hitter yet. And scouts say that Waters could be a more complete player than Pache, so their’s that.
So TLDR: Anthopolus has to find that perfect balance of keeping the team competitive while also maintaining the future. I think he’s accomplishing that nicely.
I would much rather they take on a shorter term contract that is under water right now, especially the Zack Greinke deal. Greinke and some cash for Teheran and a lottery ticket prospect to help the Dbacks save face. Kimbrel on a shorter deal would be okay, too, but then you’re probably talking $20 million per year AND you are losing the draft pick. If you would essentially be paying Greinke about $20 million per year, and you could keep the draft pick, wouldn’t that be better? Of course, Arizona might might ask for something more substantial and it takes two to tango.
Exactly the Diamondbacks – Braves deal I’m envisioning. Greinke + $55mm for Teheran and Bryse Wilson, Joey Wentz or Kyle Muller should work for both teams. Saves the Diamondbacks $50mm and gives them a decent prospect.
Josh Donaldson is a top 5 player in baseball if he’s healthy.
*was
It’s been 3 years since he was a top 5 player. He’s 33 now, has played in 165 combined the last 2 years and has been passed by multiple young players over the last few years. I’d be surprised if he ends up top 5 on his own team this year.
Thank you Jay! Lovely written article. Keep praying for an end to this baseball offseason famine
Did Mike Moustakas reject a pretty decent offer from the Angels last offseason?
Boras denies it, though if true Moustakas’ has likely been kicking himself for at least a year now.
Thank you for the They Live reference. It was the highlight of many a hollywood career.
Fun fact: it was edited by a Gib Jaffe.
Rowdy Roddy Piper!
i have a pair of those sunglasses, you know.
OBEY
I think Machado to the Padres makes the most sense. They need a 3B and the team that gave Hosmer $140M shouldn’t mind dropping $300M on Machado.
I think pretty much all of these are right (or close to it), but a few thoughts…
-I cannot think of another team that needs Maldonado more than the A’s. Depth Charts is projecting 448 PAs for Josh Phegley. Phegley’s highest # of PAs came in 2015, when he had 243. He’s being projected for more PAs this year than from 2016-2018 combined!
-The problem with Harper is that for the prices that he’s been reported to be seeking, he’s not a good fit for anybody. I agree that he makes sense for the Dodgers in the abstract, and he would make sense for the Phillies if Machado goes elsewhere, but it’s hard to say he’s a good fit anywhere.
-The Angels definitely still need pitching, but there’s another reason he makes sense there: The Angels have a great infield defense, and Keuchel puts the ball on the ground.
-Moustakas makes a lot of sense for SD, as long as the terms of the contract aren’t too long. 3B is the only position where SD doesn’t have a possible long-term answer in their farm system coming up soon.
Counterpoint to A’s/Maldonado: he’ll want multiple years. A’s have no need of that when they have Murphy to call up mid-season.
I would be shocked if Maldonado can get multiple years. If he does, he’ll probably be cheap enough to be a cost-effective backup.
Good analysis. And, one more thing. On this very cold day, I really appreciated your application of the word “fumfered” in a baseball context. Well done!
I learned a new word today!
Everybody says Yiddish, but anyone know the etymology from there? I just see proposals that it *sounds* onomatopoetic doesn’t it.
Now I want to start a Jewish folk rock band and call it Fumfered and Sons.
I also think the Marlins should sign Logan Morrison, Denard Span, Devin Mesoraco, and Jose Iglesias and just try to have a good time for a year while the kids get ready. Normally, you’d want to play young guys to see if they’re the answer, but it’s Miami so lol nothing matters just have a good time.
Darvish signed a $126M/6Yr deal on 2/10/2018.
Hosmer signed a $144m/8Yr deal on 2/18/2018.
I really don’t see a reason for concern.
And as for the result of the ‘slow’ offseason last winter?
looking at 58 players with contracts $5M or above, the sum of the AAVs were $516M and the players combined for 51.8 war.
That is $10M/WAR on average.
Changing the cutoff to $2M or above improves it to…$9.6M/war
both of which are larger than the often-touted number of $9M/war
which again is probably larger than how the industry actually values war given that Stanton’s contract was considered to be more or less fair value.
And this is not even including the fact that while Upton signed for $106M/5Yr, Angels are not expecting $21M worth of performance from a 34 year old Justin Upton.
So the conclusion is, given how the players from last offseason panned out, it wasn’t that players did not get paid because the teams were pinching pennies.
The free agent class was really not that good. (Among all the free agents, Zack Cozart had the 2nd highest projection.)
And JD Martinez signed a $110/5 deal circa 2/25/18.
And Arrieta signed a $75/3 deal circa 3/10/18 (after allegedly turning down the 126/6 Darvish deal).
Agreed entirely that all the arm-waving from last February 1st turned into nothing once the off-season was done. And the message was driven even further home with a year of hindsight: you’re hard pressed to find more than a small handful of deals that teams are happy to have given out – as your math supports nicely.
Yet the lesson has seemingly been missed (or deliberately twisted) by Jaffe and some others here.
“Why do fans care about owner’s money?”. Because resources aren’t infinite. That was one of the basic precepts of Fangraphs circa 5 years ago. Now it’s apparently heresy.
Are we really supposed to think that Angels fans who would love to build around Trout – but are constrained by the dead Pujols money – are ignorant of this? Or, more immediately, that Padres fans wouldn’t be better suited if that Hosmer deal hadn’t been signed, freeing up that money for a Machado or Harper deal?
“Basic precepts”?
(this response is to both tung_twista an DBA455)
5 years of record-setting profits, a massive payout from the sale of MLBAM, a fundamental change in the way revenue is distributed via the latest CBA (https://blogs.fangraphs.com/as-revenue-sharing-money-heads-back-to-the-yankees/) have changed the landscape considerably. Resources are still not infinite, but the wave of simultaneous austerity at a time MLB is booming makes it clear that there’s a lot of money that’s just not going to the players.
What’s more, for those pointing to the late signing dates of a handful of players, note that — and this is an observation that may just be correlation without causation — many of the late-signing players named did not have very good seasons, perhaps because of the unsettled nature of their offseasons (ask yourself if you would be better off if you had two months to prepare for your next job and relocate your family, or less than a week). Whether or not that’s fully the case, the delay in signings for the top players clearly did suppress activity when it came to lower-tier signings — the dominoes took longer to fall — with more players forced to settle later in the winter/spring. As a result, MLB salaries dropped in 2018, for just the fourth time in the last half-century (https://www.apnews.com/cc612855378d4327969e8293c9dba050). And again, that’s amid record revenues.
So while you folks may not see a cause for concern because of a few stray data points such as the sizes of the Martinez, Hosmer and Darvish deals, a whole lot of us do see plenty of reason to worry about the state of the industry.
The following is the list of the players that signed for $10M or higher AAV and their signing dates (could be off by a day or two).
I fail to see any trend or correlation between signing date and performance.
11/2 Upton $108M so-so
12/8 Chatwood $38M bad
12/12 Morrow $21M meh (injured)
12/15 Cozart $38M bad
12/16 Sabathia $10M good
12/19 Santana $60M bad
12/29 Davis $52M bad
1/16 Bruce $39M bad
1/25 Cain $80M great
2/10 Darvish $126M bad
2/16 Garcia $10M bad
2/18 Hosmer $144M bad
2/25 JD Martinez $125M great
3/12 Arrieta $75M bad
3/12 Lynn $12M so-so
3/20 Cobb $57M bad
3/29 Holland $14M bad
I appreciate the response. I’m also entirely unconvinced – it feels like a decision made independent of the facts.
“the wave of simultaneous austerity”: From 2012-2018, payrolls increased ~45%. I don’t know of many industries where a ~2% decline from all time highs is spoken of in such dramatic terms. You’d be hard pressed to find many FAs who have signed for an AAV off by more than $1M or so from forecasts this offseason – and you’d find at least as many on the other side of the curve.
” at a time MLB is booming”: Over the same period, baseball attendance fell by about 7%. This is far from the only, or even the biggest, revenue generator for the sport. But If I were making a commitment to a 10 year contractual liability,
I’d be thinking long and hard about how much the pay TV landscape has changed just in the last 5 – and what might come next (and that’s before even unpacking the uncertainty around the fate of the RSNs getting spun out in the Disney/Fox transaction).
By “the sale of MLBAM” I assume you mean BAMTech (the rest of MLBAM is still owned by the clubs and powers things like the At Bat app). It’s something that seems to be continually misunderstood in some parts. The proceeds from that sale are *not* an ongoing revenue stream that one can capitalize, or the source of an ongoing revenue stream that a club can use to fund future salaries. Quite the opposite, in fact: the revenues that were generated from providing OTT services to the NHL, the WWE, HBO, and others are obviously now forfeit (to Disney).
Most importantly, I have yet to see you make case that the player’s share of revenues has declined dramatically – and in fact I’ve seen it made elsewhere, and not disputed, that the % is roughly unchanged.
After the prior offseason ended up awfully close to where one might have projected in the previous fall, I thought some of the more agitated voices would have noted that the calendar has simply shifted – but the outcome is about the same. Instead the opposite seems to have happened – some people are doubling down on their wrong conclusions.
The Boras schtick for years has apparently been to avoid dealing with other professional negotiators and play to the egos of the owners. That game is largely up. (Although I am guessing he’s trying the same stunt with Jerry Reinsdorf almost as we speak). But even with the new framework in mind, I will be *very* surprised if this doesn’t all end with both Harper and Machado signing enormous deals.
If I’m wrong, I’ll be sure to offer a mea culpa. Will you do the same?
Total % of revenue to all players has stayed roughly the same, but the amount going to MLB players (as opposed to MiLB) has dropped.
So Hosmer was bad and Darvish got injured (again) because they signed in February? If only mental gymnastics were an Olympic sport…
What’s wrong with simply accepting that most FA deals turn out badly (Pujols is the worst of many, many examples) and the owners finally are listening to their GM’s and analytics departments and de-emphasizing FA’s (except relievers). Then we can simply focus the next CBA on getting more money to players while they’re younger by raising the minimum wage.
Things can change. It’s ok that FA isn’t going to be the same as it was in 1995. Getting more money to the players in the next CBA is a fairly simple problem to solve, since it’s maybe 2.5% of revenue at question. All the “looming strike” alarmism says more about the writers of the sport than it does about reality.
“All the “looming strike” alarmism says more about the writers of the sport than it does about reality.”
This, times 100.
It used to be that the flurry of activity around the winter meetings gave reporters more grist for the mill. That’s changed, and it’s made their jobs harder.
It’s also happened at a time where the job of being a sports reporter has gotten more commoditized (and thus stressful). The business of being an internet publisher is a challenging and rapidly changing one.
And so you see more of this stuff. Maybe a combination of parties who are anxious about their own futures and projecting it on to the sport, and an operating model that encourages more click-baity panic than reasoned, thoughtful analysis.
It’s an exaggeration to say that “all the arm-waving … turned into nothing,” though. It turned into the lowest percentage of revenue going to players since 2012, and the third straight year of decline in the players’ share (both per Forbes). As Craig Edwards laid out on January 17, there’s a decent chance that overall payroll will decline again this year, despite a much stronger free agent class. If payroll does stay flat or decline it is practically certain that the players’ share decreases for a fourth straight year. I also noticed, DBA455, that in the 2018 version of Craig’s payroll piece you predicted payroll would end up rising before all was said and done, which wasn’t the case (a $115.4 million drop, again per Forbes). That’s a small drop, of course, but more importantly, you wrote this:
“The article is strangely alarmist for an off-season that’s not yet over, and probably points to something like flat YoY payrolls – which (a) would still be a powerful growth CAGR over the past 3/5/10 years and (b) is an advance of what could be an extraordinary free agent class a year from now.
As far as I can tell, in the history of professional sports there has been exactly one guaranteed deal >$275M. We might get more than that in a week later this year with Harper and Machado. (Who will be joined by Kershaw, Donaldson, Blackmon, and too many more to mention in a class that’s almost sure to increase payrolls).”
Even you seemed to think that last offseason was the calm before the storm, but at this point isn’t it fair to say, at the very least, that this class is not “almost sure to increase payrolls”? And if this class can’t, I can see why players would worry, especially amid record breaking revenues.
Good post. I appreciate the call for accountability. But I don’t think my view has changed dramatically from then.
For one, I don’t think (2.5%) is profoundly different from flat. Down, yes. Meriting “plenty of reason to worry about the state of the game”? No. I don’t think so. Especially reiterating the point that even that decline leaves the intermediate term trend line strongly positive. Again: 2012-2018 = +45%.
Will 2019 be up from 2018? I don’t know (so yes, a year later I would back off of the “almost sure” – that’s fair).
Kershaw gets left out of the FA discussion because it was technically an extension of his Dodgers negotiating window, but he ended up landing a $93/3 deal despite a significantly down season that may speak to a chronic injury risk. Donaldson had a dreadful year and still signed the biggest 1-season contract in baseball to date. And Machado and Harper are not done yet – I still expect them to sign enormous deals.
(And with an extra year of evidence, teams seem right to be incrementally more skeptical of the FA market. How many deals would you point to from last year that have surplus value today? Cain, probably. Given the outcome, I doubt the Red Sox regret Martinez. But the list dries up pretty quickly after that.)
As for the players’ share of revenue – I don’t have enough specifics to be sure. I’d love to see them. From the best I can gather, they remain inside the same band they have been in for a decade-plus. Might they have been a the highest end of the range circa 2015 so had some room to regress back to the mean? Seems reasonable to me. (And I think there’s a broader conversation about what the right percentage is for players – but that’s outside the scope of this discussion.)
It seems that what the players chose to focus on in the last CBA is not what I would have done in their shoes. It also seems to me that the union has long prioritized tenure/veterans over merit/younger players. And certainly over minor league players. But they were all informed parties who bargained in good faith – and I don’t see that the owners have violated the spirit of that agreement.
From Rosenthal, and quoted elsewhere on this site:
“Since 2007, players have received between 53 and 57 percent of revenue annually, including 54.8 percent in 2018. Those figures, which include amateur signing bonuses and minor-league salaries, are audited and given to the union. They are not in dispute.”
Where we are on the scale of 55% +/-2 pts is enough to generate (and justify) all of this sturm und drang? Really?
I agree with most of that. If Machado and Harper sign mega-deals then all of this might be moot. And there was a time when this free agent class looked like it would be much stronger than it ended up being, which is saying something. Likewise, I agree that there is no evidence of owners colluding against players. In fact, I’ve been intrigued by what I see as the rapidly evolving negotiating tactics of owners/management. People often point to the fact that teams have gotten better at evaluating players as explanation for the market shift; I think it is also explained in part by the fact teams have realized that by being patient, and making players sweat, they can extract better value. The market has become more interesting in terms of its gamesmanship, with some players seemingly doing better by cashing in early, while others end up losing the game of musical chairs.
With that said, we’ve reached a point where one plausible outcome of all this is that Machado and Harper get substantially less than we expected, payroll falls again, players’ share falls for the fourth year in a row, and everyone starts gearing up for a bloodbath when the next CBA is negotiated. I don’t know what odds I would put on that worst-case scenario, exactly, but it’s enough to make me nervous.
I’m not sure how you’re defining contacts for Machado and Harper being “substantially less”, but CBA “bloodbath” is ridculous. Avg player salary has gone up 30% in just the last 4 years (!!!), perhaps due to revenues from licensing to MLBAM. And using your figure of a $115M drop in player share implies less than the 2.5% gap I cited above in a sport with $10B in annual revenue. Ben Lindbergh’s “Baseball Economics are not as skewed as you think” article in the Ringer last year lays out that Player’s received 50% of revenue with another 6% going to minor Leaguers.
In his chat today:
10:58
Jeff Sullivan: But at least on the internet, the union side is winning the messaging battle. I personally remain a work-stoppage skeptic, given the amount of money there is in the game today. I think everyone understands the way that players are compensated needs to change. I don’t think baseball will allow for the game to go dark at a time when it might be harder to win fans back afterward than ever
10:59
Jeff Sullivan: Baseball is already dealing with attendance and attention issues. There are more forms of entertainment vying for eyes and money than ever before in the history of the globe. Not a great time for MLB to temporarily self-destruct
Maybe Jay Jaffe could talk to Ben & Jeff since they write for the same publication?
A fair point. Maybe the public complaints of players and agents are mostly posturing and I’ve fallen for it. But we know from past CBA negotiations (across sports) that players care about the percentage of revenue they receive, not just average salary. If they feel like their position will continue to erode, that could lead to a fight.
5 of the first 7 names on the list are Boras clients. This is by and large the way he operates… only now the broader system has evolved but he hasn’t. I guess a leopard doesn’t change its spots.
Sure, he has a great record of getting his clients paid over the long run, but he’s certainly been running into some problems over the past several years. Looks like a few of these guys are going to be left holding the bag.
“Going to be”? Mike Moustakas and his rejected QO from last year would like a word with your future tense – that’s $14M he will never recoup.
I really don’t understand how Boras doesn’t take more heat for misreading the market that badly. (And he may or may not have turned down $45/3 from Anaheum as well).
I’m even more shocked that he wasn’t fired over it. I guess as long as Boras can keep convincing his clients – and a surprising number of baseball writers lately – that this is owner malfeasance somehow, he’s a one-trick pony that can keep running the same trick.
Boras got fantastic deals for Hosmer last offseason, and for Britton this offseason, and if he had known when to quit he could have gotten Harper a $300M deal or similar (which would have been a really good outcome for him). He did well for Matt Harvey and Kikuchi too.
His strategy is to try to sell his free agents as unique pieces of art that ownership can’t live without. This gets some of his clients way farther than they would have otherwise. For guys like Moustakas, though? It just doesn’t work, and waiting doesn’t improve the offers. Same thing might happen this year with Kimbrel or Keuchel, although clearly it’s too soon to tell.
You might be the first person on this site to describe Hosmer’s deal as “fantastic”. Haha
I don’t think 300m is off the table for Harper yet
I like how David Robertson represented himself this year. I realize not all markets move like the Reliever market does and Robertson’s case was fairly straight-forward, but good on him to save the 6% agent fee.
I think a large part of this stalemate is simply a matter of most contenders being fairly well positioned to compete and the rest of the pack looking at their chances realistically and not wanting to spend big for a longshot at a championship run.
The big spender teams certainly wouldn’t mind adding one of these top FAs, but aren’t willing to pony up for what will essentially be a luxury addition to their already formidable rosters.
Boras’s harem of players are facing a slim market and without the big bidders in play, the teams like the Phillies and White Sox who want them don’t feel pressured to ramp up their offers.
I think once one of Machado or Harper fall, more teams will feel the pressure to step up, but the teams we expect to spend don’t need to be silly and the longshot teams seem more than content to stand idle for the best season or two.
Machado needs potential suitors more than any of the potential suitors need him.
If the Red Sox don’t end up re-signing Kimbrel, I will be truly befuddled. I wasn’t thrilled about bringing him back because of the aforementioned decline, but he’s clearly the best reliever on the market now that pretty much everyone else is signed, and the bullpen remains Boston’s No. 1 concern.
Except it’s possible that Boston doesn’t really have much money, especially once you consider how much they’re going to have to spend to keep their core (or some significant portion of it).
Long term deals for relievers who are declining don’t really fit financially on that team. Let them see how the season goes, see if anyone young steps up. They’re going to make the playoffs anyway, and if the pen is really a problem in July, there will be guys available on the trade market.
If anything, the mistake they made was not getting in on guys like Kelley/Strickland who signed for extremely cheap and could easily be back of the pen options.
Well, sure, that’s what’s baffling. If they passed on Kimbrel and signed short-term bullpen help, that would have made sense. It’s doing neither that boggles my mind.
That said, if Kimbrel is down to three years, I don’t see that as “long-term” in the traditional sense of the phrase, and I don’t put much stock in the notion that John Henry and Co. are hurting for cash. Which is why if I had to pick an outcome, it’d be that Kimbrel returns to Boston on something like a 3/$45m deal.
So let me get this straight: Harper has a 50% chance of being worth $300M over the next 10 years. He was offered $300M and turned it down. And it’s the owners who are the reason he’s not signed?
To be fair … I *think* the point is that there is a 50% chance of being worth $300M if you EXCLUDE his big year. Of course, Harper and Boras aren’t likely to just pretend that the 10 fWAR season didn’t happen. That’s maybe why they are saying 10/$300M is too low for a floor. Pass on that to see if there are takers on a higher number. Not suggesting that they are smart for doing it as the market may simply reject any long-term deal like that. But I can see why they passed on the Nats offer.
Personally, every day I’m leaning more and more towards a base 3/$110M type deal with vesting options (either way) that extend out for another 3-7 years. This would allow Boras to claim highest AAV and save some face on the duration and give Harper opt-outs. Harper also seems like the kind of guy who would bet on himself if given the chance.
This. I think he does take a deal with opt-outs. I also think the “being worth 300m” is very hard to actually calculate, because I am fairly certain WAR isn’t what owners are using when examining how much to pay a guy.
It’s crazy that the Phillies wont just sign both Machado and Harper. Adding two $30 AAV contracts next year would bring their total salary to around $180-190M, or what it was in 2014…
They have $25M in just relievers contracts coming off the books next year, and Arrietta’s $20M is gone the year after that. Hernandez and Franco would become expendable to get some C or B prospects and trim another $10-15M. Yes, they eventually have to lock up Nola, but that’s it as far as folks already in Philly that are going to have to get paid soon.
I think the Phillies plan is go after Harper this year and Trout next year. Seeing as Trout grew up a Philadelphia fan, he’s almost guaranteed to sign with his hometown team.
Solid piece. I’d disagree however with Iglesias to the Brewers. The last two seasons have shown they prioritize offense over defense. They’ve gotten weak defenders and used shifting to overcome their defense – re: Shaw, School, Moustakas.
Bryce Harper will sign with the Twins or Blue Jays check back on this comment and bask in my clairvoyance.
I know Iglesias and the Brewers is the lead, but I’m still inclined to believe that it’s the obvious choice. Dodgers for any FA? No — that’s not the way they work right now. Phillies and Braves? They have the resources, but they won’t spend them for some unfathomable reason. (Equally unfathomably, the Padres might …)
But. Adding a projected 1.5 WAR at SS, and even ignoring the bounce this might get from the pitching staff, is clearly something that the Brewers should consider. They’re at the right point on the win curve for 2019. If they can even get Iglesias on a pillow contract, they should jump.
Plus, they have less than $50 million committed for next year, which means that 2019 is an excellent time to spend. And they were 7th in the National League last year on offense, so it’s not like acquiring a traditional SS who “only” hits for 90 WRC+ is going to cripple their line-up.
“some of the winter’s best free agents have yet to find a home… Even after the Astros inked Wade Miley”
lolwut
Those are two halves of two different sentences. If you read the rest of both of them, you will be less confused.
With each passing day closer to spring training Machado’s leverage appears to be diminishing. I envision a trade-off being made on Machado’s part to sacrifice years to maintain a high AAV. If that happens, the Yankees will be major players regardless of roster construction. As crazy as it seems, Andujar or Torres could be optioned (I believe both still have option years) and used as insurance against under performing or injured players, much in the same way the Dodgers have been built there teams in recent years with high floor replacement players waiting in the wings.
I don’t think this happens, but it is an actual possibility.
Maybe Moustakas could back to the Royals. It could be a regular thing: sign a one year contract, get traded at the deadline, sign back again the next year.
From the article: “With less than two weeks to go before pitchers and catchers report to spring training, more than 100 free agents remain unsigned.”
This seems like a startling number until we learn that only 10 of those 100+ are within the top 50 free agents, and 5 of those 10 are Boras clients waiting out the market for an unrealistic number. Another one of the 10 is Machado–also waiting on a 10-year deal that probably isn’t in the cards–and yet another is Kimbrel, whose agent is proving that Boras hasn’t totally cornered the market on unrealistic salary demands. You’re left with Jones–a guy on the downslope whose most memorable action in 2018 was his refusal to waive his no-trade clause–and two no-hit defensive specialists. And those are the guys in the top 50!
A vast majority of the remaining 90+ “free agents” are guys with little marginal value who probably weren’t going to sign anywhere anyway. According to the 2019 Free Agent Tracker on this very site, sorting by projected WAR, once you get to the 51st player on the list and beyond, you’re looking at veterans projected at 1.0 WAR or less. If you’re expecting 1 WAR or less and there isn’t much upside, might as well play some of the kids and see if you have something.
A lot has been said about the sad state of free agency this off season, but it seems to me that the results are better than we even thought! Then add the record-breaking agreements reached by arb-eligible players this off season, and we see that the system isn’t working nearly as bad as we’re being told to think!
This is a fantastic post.
Elsewhere (not hard to figure out where) there’s a very good Eno Sarris/Matt Swartz piece that takes a more objective/analytical view at the free agent market and presents an interesting fact (how few 5+ WAR seasons have been turned in by 30+ year old hitters in recent years – I believe only JDM and Cain last season) offers some good, if admittedly not unique insight on why teams might be reluctant to commit in the post-PED era (different aging curves), and most topically to your post – and most interesting to me – a theory that explains the uninspiring salaries for those lower-teir free agents:
The public-market perception of replacement value might just be wrong.
IE, there are clearly error bars around WAR. And moving the benchmark up just 0.5 cuts the value/AAV of that ~1war/year player by 50%. And maybe more, if you think about the value of a (finite) roster spot.
Could the teams be getting better at identifying/developing internal candidate who look like replacement level/0 WAR guys to the outside world but produce like 0.5-1 WAR guys? Seem plausible to me.
And it’s a better stab at it than just shouting at street lamps that ‘teams should spend more!’
Your memory of 5+ fWAR seasons by hitters 30+ is a bit faulty. Paul Goldschmidt (31) and Matt Carpenter (33) also turned in 5+ WAR years in 2018, and 34-year-old Jed Lowrie just missed the cutoff with 4.9 fWAR. 5+ WAR plus Lowrie comprises the top 20 position players of 2018, which 25% were 30+.
Going back to 2017, 5+ WAR seasons were turned in by: Brian Dozier (30), Zack Cozart (31), Joey Votto (33), Justin Turner (32), Justin Upton (30), Charlie Blackmon (30). That’s 6 out of 21 5+ WAR seasons. MLB is in a youth movement, there’s no question, but the demise of the 30+ hitter has been somewhat exaggerated.
“@MarkASimonSays
I’m probably not the first to note this, but i find it interesting
Position Players in Age 30+ Season worth 5+ bWAR
2014- 12
2015- 5
2016- 6
2017- 4
2018- 3 (Cain, Goldschmidt, JD Martinez)
2018’s 3 is the fewest since 2005 (when Craig Counsell was 1 of the 3!)”
There’s admittedly nothing magical about a 5 bwar cutoff; it’s admittedly somewhat arbitrary.
But your post itself nicely illustrates the point that only a small minority of baseball’s best hitters have been >30.
(Btw – Traditional cutoff for baseball age is July 1 I believe, so Upton was still in his 20s for 2017).
But then who’s left for the Pirates to sign
Keuchel would make a really big difference, but dont hold your breath
Machado is the most perfect free agent fit I’ve ever seen for the Bucs and yet signing him is a pipe dream. The Pirates need a SS, a power hitter, and a 6+WAR star. Machado fits all 3. They have only about $68MM committed to a very underrated roster that should win 85 games and we all know that they have alot more money than that. This makes so much sense and yet Nutting is only interested in profit margin.
“…it’s yet another sign of an increasingly dysfunctional relationship between the union and the league.”
Uhmm, no. It’s a sign of the increasingly dysfunctional relationship between the agents and knowledge of the market.
It’s not just the CBA that needs recalibrating.
I’m thinking agents need to start thinking more in terms of shorter deals and vesting options.
Not only would he bolster our pen, but Kimbrel would have great sentimental value for Atlanta. He’s a southerner that grew up a Braves fan, and we loved him dearly while he was here. I get chills just thinking about him jogging to the mound at Suntrust while “Welcome to the Jungle” is blasting over the loud speakers.
I’ve been screaming Machado to the Padres for months now, even before the mystery team was announced. I personally see Harper to the Phillies, and Machado to the Padres.
Unless Reinsdorf was clairvoyant and knew Belle would opt out, your disregard for his ponying up for Belle is nonsense. Also, signing Luis Robert for $52 million was hardly a sign of frugality.
As for Machado, only a change of heart and interest from Machado’s favorite team (Yankees) can prevent the Sox from signing him. The 83 year-old Reinsdorf wants another a ring. A weak AL Central, a top farm system, and Machado can accomplish this, if not this year, then soon thereafter.
To me, it’s a little like some odd fantasy auction where each team has $260 to spend, but a bunch of teams sign some $5 players for $1 right away, then announce that they won’t be using more than $100 or so of their $260. And then the teams all just ignore some of the $15-30 players, or announce that they’ll pay $20 for $30 players, but nothing more.
Some of the teams have $20 players signed for $5, but won’t then overspend by any amount on the top players. Owners are so pleased that they got Reynato Nunez for $1 that they ignore Moustakas.
I’ll be curious to see if the next round of cable/t.v. contracts don’t have some sort of “trying to win” clauses included. This new attitude by owners/front-office of, “The fans will watch, no matter how hard we try” might matter to the companies who have always paid for viewing rights with the assumption that teams are trying to be competitive.
Had a team do this in an auction last week, had 20 cheap keepers and entered the auction with $150 for 3 guys. He ended with $88 unused and 3 more “bargains”.
Keuchel to the Angels makes perfect sense, but I think Harper really really wants to sign with the Yankees. He wants that market and attention while also being a apart of a winning-culture. No matter where he ends up, IMO, the Yankees were the team he really wanted.
I could see San Diego signing either of Harper/Machado too. Who knows what will happen, but I believe Machado will no doubt go to the highest bidder while Harper will go to the team that’s most likely to win a World Series. I think Harper wants a legacy and Machado wants to be the richest player.
Realmuto needs to hurry up and get moved so that these things will start to line up better.
I think it’d be just grand to see the Padres land Bryce for their already clustered OF and the White Sox snag Manny. It’d just be so chaotic haha.
I am still going to pretend one of them ends up in STL where I can watch them play regularly, and stick my head in the sand for anyone who says they won’t.
Yeah and then watch the Phillie fanbase meltdown!
-no offense all you Phillies’ fans- ?
I find it really hard to imagine a scenario in which the Phils don’t end up with one of the two–really, it would take both Harper AND Machado deciding that they don’t want the Phils’ top offer and would rather play in a more preferred destination. One guy might go this route, but there’s no way both guys choose this course of action.
yea, I think the first scenario is much more likely than the second; the Pads are crazy enough to for broke on Harper, knowing that he will put butts in the seats and mesh well with their youth movement, and their city pretty much sells itself. On the second part, yeah, the Phils may indeed miss out on Machado and Harper, but it will not be to the White Sox–it will be to LA or NY. Nothing against Chicago, but they just simply are not going to bid more than the Phillies are.
Agree with Roster Resource that Greg Allen is going to start in the Indians OF and there are a bunch more options until Zimmer returns