Fixing a Hole While Teams Train This Spring To Stop the East Clubs From Wondering What They Should Do

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If the winter is a time for dreams, the spring is a time for solutions. Your team may have been going after Juan Soto or Aaron Judge or Shohei Ohtani, depending on the offseason, but short of something going weird in free agency (like the unsigned Boras clients last year), if you don’t have them under contract at this point, they’ll be improving someone else’s club. However, that doesn’t mean that spring training is only about ramping up for the daily grind. Teams have real needs to address, and while they’re no doubt workshopping their own solutions – or possibly convincing themselves that the problem doesn’t exist, like when I wonder why my acid reflux is awful after some spicy food – that doesn’t mean that we can’t cook up some ideas in the FanGraphs test kitchen.

This is the first piece in a three-part series in which I’ll propose one way for each team to fill a roster hole or improve for future seasons. Some of my solutions are more likely to happen than others, but I tried to say away from the completely implausible ones. We’ll leave the hypothetical trades for Bobby Witt Jr. and Paul Skenes to WFAN callers. Also, I will not recommend the same fix for different teams; in real life, for example, David Robertson can help only one club’s bullpen. Today, we’ll cover the 10 teams in the East divisions, beginning with the five in the AL East before moving on to their counterparts in the NL East. Each division is sorted by the current Depth Charts projected win totals.

New York Yankees: Get rid of DJ LeMahieu already
ZiPS is strangely bullish on DJ LeMahieu’s ability to contribute this season, but I’m far less confident. Still owed money for 2025 and 2026, LeMahieu is likely to miss the start of the season with a calf injury, but the Yankees have not yet laid out a timetable for his return, and their third base situation is still muddy entering the 2025 campaign. Let’s clear it up for them by releasing LeMahieu. Oswaldo Cabrera and Oswald Peraza may not be the most exciting players, but they’re both legitimate options at third. The Yankees should let them fight it out without having to worry about the 36-year-old LeMahieu supplanting either of them for the starting job as soon as he recovers. If the Yankees want to push the duo with more options at the hot corner, they can add Jorbit Vivas and Pablo Reyes to the competition; Reyes specifically is coming off a shockingly good season in the high minors. LeMahieu should be able to get a job elsewhere, especially if the Yankees are covering his salary. He is no longer an impact player on a contending roster, and the sooner the Yankees stop hoping he can return to being the player he was a few years ago, the better off they’ll be.

Boston Red Sox: Figure out a Garrett Crochet extension
The Red Sox are riding high after picking up Garrett Crochet and Alex Bregman this offseason. They’re becoming a trendy playoff pick, and this is one of those I agree with; I think the Red Sox have a solid offense, a sneaky-good rotation, and enough depth that they’re in as good a position as any team in baseball to make midseason trades. Nothing would wipe away the last of the awkwardness from the Mookie Betts situation than making sure Crochet stays in Boston long term. He clearly wants to get something done, and the Red Sox shouldn’t have made the trade at all if they weren’t willing to keep him around. Here’s how ZiPS expects Crochet to perform over the length of a possible extension.

ZiPS Projection – Garrett Crochet
Year W L ERA FIP G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA+ WAR
2025 12 6 2.93 2.72 29 29 135.0 113 44 11 43 169 143 3.5
2026 12 6 3.03 2.79 29 29 136.7 117 46 11 41 167 138 3.4
2027 12 6 3.14 2.89 29 29 140.3 124 49 12 41 166 133 3.3
2028 12 7 3.28 2.99 30 30 140.0 128 51 13 41 162 128 3.2
2029 11 8 3.36 3.09 30 30 139.3 130 52 13 40 156 125 3.0
2030 12 8 3.49 3.20 32 32 147.0 139 57 14 42 160 120 3.0

Ignore the games started column because Crochet’s situation is a bit unusual. ZiPS is factoring in his messy health history and conservative usage in the past, but there are reasons to believe he’ll carry a different workload moving forward. Most teams wouldn’t do what the White Sox did last year, when they converted him to a starter while he was coming off a major surgery, and he excelled where most pitchers presumably wouldn’t have. His projected innings here are more solid, and they already reflect the significant injury risk that should be considered for any possible Crochet extension. After also taking into account his $4.5 million salary for 2025 and the fact that he’s still arbitration eligible for 2026, ZiPS suggests offering Crochet a seven-year, $175 million contract starting this season. That doesn’t need to be Boston’s final offer, but it is a solid framework for what an extension could and should look like. Yes, there are risks, but the Red Sox shouldn’t sit at the high rollers table if they’re not willing to push in their chips.

Baltimore Orioles: Move Chayce McDermott to the bullpen
The Orioles have developed a lot of high-end offensive talent during their rebuild, but the pitching returns have been more mixed. Grayson Rodriguez looks good, but not Skenes-like, and most of the arms they had in the system five years ago are no longer around. Chayce McDermott is a Top 100 prospect in our official FanGraphs rankings, and he just missed in the ZiPS version of the exercise, coming in at 111. The problem is that he’s unusually old to be on a prospect list for someone who is not coming over from an Asian professional league; he turns 27 later this season, and he was unfortunately injured last year at an obvious entry point to get him some time in the majors. He’s recovering from a minor lat injury at the moment, but I don’t think he would’ve had a real shot at opening the season in the rotation anyway.

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Especially with Trevor Rogers expected to get another shot at the rotation at some point and Kyle Bradish targeting to return in the summer, there’s not a clear route for McDermott to start much for the O’s in 2025, if at all. McDermott still wants to start, but a move to the bullpen might be his best route toward getting a starting spot down the line. He has four usable pitches but struggles with his command, and a trip to the bullpen has ironed those issues out for a lot of pitchers in the past. Scaling down his challenge with a relief role would also give him a clearer path to a job in the majors. There’s no reason that would have to be forever, either; teams treat the starter/reliever roles with more ambiguity these days than at any time since the start of the Expansion Era. If he’s getting guys out in the late innings, there’s no permanent barrier preventing him from returning to the rotation in the future.

Toronto Blue Jays: Trade Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
I hate, hate, HATE that I’m saying this, but once the moment passed for the Jays to extend Vladimir Guerrero Jr., I think so did the argument that they should hold off on retooling. Unlike Bo Bichette, who is coming off a disappointing year, Guerrero’s trade value won’t be higher for Toronto than it is now. Pretty much any team in the wild card hunt without Vladito would automatically jump to the front of the race upon acquiring him, and for a full season of his services, the Blue Jays could expect a serious prospect package in return. They probably won’t get as much for him once the season starts. Last week, a few days after the extension deadline expired, I went into more detail about the Guerrero’s situation and long-term outlook. You should check that out for more info.

Tampa Bay Rays: Embrace Joe Boyle as a reliever
One thing I noticed in the ZiPS projections is that this is the weakest Tampa Bay bullpen the computer has projected in some time, though it’s still an acceptable one. The Rays seem to like the idea of Joe Boyle as a starter, but his profile just screams “overpowering fastball-slider reliever dude.” His woeful 52% first-strike percentage in Oakland last year, and his even worse 48.7% mark in the minors last year, won’t do anything to dampen the general concerns about his command. ZiPS gives him a projected 4.60 ERA if he’s used primarily as a starter; that’s surprisingly not awful for someone who has regularly walked seven or eight batters per game at all levels. But he has one of the biggest starter/reliever splits in the ZiPS projections, with his projected ERA all the way down around 3.00 in a full-time relief role. If the Rays can fix his command enough for him to be a viable starter, they certainly could do the same for him as a reliever, and this is an organization that views pitcher roles as fluid anyway. If things work out for him in the bullpen, the Rays could always move him back to the rotation in the future.

Atlanta Braves: Add an outfielder for extra depth
A healthy Ronald Acuña Jr. and Michael Harris II would give the Braves one of the better outfields in baseball, and Jurickson Profar should be a valuable addition to the lineup, even if he regresses from his career year in 2024. But Atlanta’s backups there aren’t promising, and considering how tight things are expected to be at the top of the NL East, the Braves should buttress their depth on the grass. They don’t need to do anything too fancy here, just some kind of fringe prospect fielder or minor league veteran who doesn’t have a clear path to playing time on his current club, like Colby Thomas of the A’s or DeShawn Keirsey Jr. of the Twins. Atlanta could also target Toronto’s Addison Barger, who disappointed in the majors in 2024 but is probably a good bit better than his numbers suggest. I find guys like these more interesting than Eli White or Jake Marisnick, the types who are expected to fill out the Triple-A Gwinnett roster.

Philadelphia Phillies: Try to trade for Luis Robert Jr.
I’m not positive that the White Sox are even at a place where they would seriously consider trading Luis Robert Jr., but Philadelphia should certainly see what it would take to get him. It’s not center field that’s so much the problem for the Phillies, but right field, though I suspect they’re happier with Nick Castellanos there than I would be. But if we’re addressing team weaknesses, it would be malpractice not to talk about the fact that Castellanos’ bat has been below average for the position in four of the last five seasons, he’s one of the worst defensive outfielders in the majors right now, and he’s entering his mid-30s. The Phillies get a lot of their production from older players, so their current contention window isn’t going to be open forever. I’d start by offering the White Sox their pick of whatever young players they want from the Phillies system not named Andrew Painter or Aidan Miller, hoping I can dazzle the rebuilding South Siders with quantity. Robert comes with some risk after he was injured and struggled last season, but that also means he could come cheaper. But even if the White Sox aren’t asking for less in return than they would’ve if Robert were coming off a year of his typical production, he still would probably be worth it for Philadelphia. There just aren’t a lot of other quality outfielders available.

New York Mets: Find a lefty reliever
The Mets have a decent bullpen, one that’s solidly above average if you believe the projections, but ZiPS at least thinks the vast majority of this bullpen’s value comes from the top four pitchers on the depth chart. One thing the Mets are not deep on here is lefties, which is why I’m going to suggest something that sounds frightening at first read: Sign Patrick Corbin. Now, he should never start a game in the majors ever again, but he has notable platoon splits, his slider was more effective in 2024 than it has been in years, and he’s had more time to refine the cutter he’s been working on. If he doesn’t get an offer for a guaranteed contract, perhaps the Mets could get him on a minor league deal with the ability to opt-out if he doesn’t get called up by a certain date, and see what he looks like in a month. I’d also like to explore signing Brooks Raley to an incentive-filled one-year contract for the second half, when he’s expected back from Tommy John surgery, with some sort of option for 2026. Little moves like these may keep the Mets from having to retool their bullpen in July.

Washington Nationals: Sign Spencer Turnbull
If you look at the Washington Nationals, you can see the foundation for their next contending club in the coming years. There’s real offensive upside here with James Wood, Dylan Crews, CJ Abrams, and Luis García Jr.. They also made two smart short-term adds in trading for Nathaniel Lowe without giving up much and signing Josh Bell. But Washington’s pitching staff projects to be among the worst in baseball, and if this team is going to make a surprise wild card run, it’ll need to add some quality arms. I’d like to see the Nationals go after Spencer Turnbull, who I think is the most interesting pitcher left out there. Between injuries, he’s flashed some potential to be a no. 2 starter, and if he isn’t quite that good, he definitely has a higher ceiling at this point than hurlers like Lance Lynn or Kyle Gibson.

Miami Marlins: Sign (in order to trade) J.D. Martinez
J.D. Martinez is definitely on the down slope of his career, but at least according to ZiPS, he is still projected to have a higher OPS+ than every Marlins hitter except Jesús Sánchez. Miami needs an awful lot to go right to be anywhere near contention come September, but if there’s even a chance to be competitive this year, it’ll need to grab whatever shred of offensive value it can find. Of course, the Marlins don’t care about winning in 2025, but that’s all the more reason to scoop up Martinez on the cheap. Come July, they can flip him for a minor prospect return to whatever contending club realizes its DH position is a dumpster fire.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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sandwiches4everMember since 2019
1 year ago

I saw this:

New York Yankees: Get rid of DJ LeMahieu already

And was like “great article, I don’t even need to read the rest.”

wheelhouseMember since 2022
1 year ago

The Yankees would probably lose money cutting DJ, no? Other than the league min salary someone else would pay him until he proves he’s not good there either. I’d have to think that whatever insurance payout they’re able to get if they keep him on the 60-day IL forever is probably still greater than the ~$2M someone else would pay him.

Brad JohnsonMember
1 year ago
Reply to  wheelhouse

Contract insurance is mostly a myth.

wheelhouseMember since 2022
1 year ago
Reply to  Brad Johnson

If the gap between “mostly” and “entirely” in this case is quantifiable as $2M or more, that’d be all it’d take

Brad JohnsonMember
1 year ago
Reply to  wheelhouse

Ok, sure, but what I’m saying is it’s highly unlikely they’ve insured DJLM. He’s too old. $5MM of coverage would run something like $3MM-$4MM.

*Maybe* they’ve insured against specific outcomes. That improves the cost to coverage ratio. But why would his calf be one of them?

Chili Davis Eyes
1 year ago
Reply to  wheelhouse

Shouldn’t teams like the White Sox and Marlins be calling Brian Cashman to see what kind of prospects he’d give up in exchange for taking on the rest of DJ Lemahieu’s contract?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago

I have always wondered why this doesn’t happen more. Teams eat money all the time to get a better prospect. But this almost never happens. The Yankees did this with Chase Headley and the Angels did it with Zack Cozart. But teams must be sensitive to the image of “selling” a prospect. The team would rightly get called out for cheaping out.

laughingstockMember since 2025
1 year ago

That title looks like word soup until you figure out which song’s melody to sing it with

Runaway ToasterMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  laughingstock

Please help me!

szakylMember since 2024
1 year ago

McCartney

NorthWallMember since 2021
1 year ago
Reply to  szakyl

Straight out of Sgt Pepper:

I’m fixing a hole where the rain gets in
And stops my mind from wandering
Where it will go…

Uncle SpikeMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  NorthWall

lol, I totally didn’t make that connection and was thinking this was an odd title.

ThomasMember since 2017
1 year ago
Reply to  laughingstock

This begs the question: who contributes the headlines at Fangraphs? The author of the article, or an editor? I wonder, if it’s the former, if Dan was listening to SGT. PEPPER while writing the article.

Veeck as in BeckMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  laughingstock

♫ See the people signed this week
Like Iglesias and Finnegan
And wonder why we don’t go get Grandal ♫

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago

Yeah, trading Vlad Jr would definitely improve the Blue Jays for future seasons. But they would have an awful year and those future reasons will be without Ross Atkins. It’s no good* to do what is in the best interest of the team 3 years from now, since he knows that if they don’t win now they won’t be there.

—-
*except, you know doing your job…

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I had a crazy thought, but it’s too fun not to share and expose myself to derision:

The Giants trade Bryce Elridge for Vlad (who agrees to an extension in SF). TOR replaces their one-foot-out-the-door 1B with the next best 1B prospect in baseball for years to come and the Giants attempt to score runs for the first time since COVID.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago

That could be fun. The good thing about Vlad Jr for the Giants is that he doesn’t hit that many of cheap home runs. He had 30 homers last year and 28 of them would have been out at the Giants’ park.

But they’d have to sign him to a huge extension to make it work.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago

Is Luis Robert ever going to be healthy again? I know he was bad last year because he was hurt, sure, but does anyone have faith he will be healthy enough to be good again for close to a full year?

Sure, if the White Sox are willing to take Mick Abel and Dante Nori, the Phillies should definitely trade for him. But the White Sox are going to be asking for Aidan Miller.

IMO the team that really should trade for Robert is the Reds. This has been the case for a while now, but Arroyo and Stafura are both really interesting prospects and they also have some post-prospects that could be of interest (Noelvi Marte, for example). The Reds outfield is kind of a mess and they don’t have a lot of money, they’re the right kind of team to take a gamble on him recovering.

cashgod27Member since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Apparently the Reds tried to do exactly this but the Sox wanted more than basically just Arroyo

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  cashgod27

Recently? I know last offseason their price was much higher.

MRDXolMember since 2021
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Am I missing something about Stafura/Arroyo? They’re respectable prospects. Neither is close to as tantalizing as an Aidan Miller; neither is even a top 100 dude. Seems like pennies on the dollar for Robert.

You can definitely argue that his value is currently in the tank after last year’s disaster. But he’s still got 3 years on his contract at a very reasonably $18.3M AAV— the latter two years are $20M team options, not even guaranteed. Chicago is not in any rush; they stand to gain a much better prospect haul than Arroyo/Stafura if he’s healthy and goes on a tear to start the year, or even if he ends the year as such and they trade him next offseason.

Cincy does have 4 top 50 prospects. Unfortunately they align terribly with the positions Chicago already has stockpiled: three SPs and a catcher. I just don’t see the fit here.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  MRDXol

I think a prospect somewhere in between Miller and Dante Nori is where Robert’s stock is located. A wide range! Arroyo is a better prospect than Stafura but both qualify. Probably an FV50 on an Arroyo and an FV45+ on Stafura.

I don’t think the White Sox are getting Aidan Miller for Robert, ever. Robert is one year away from having negative trade value if he puts up less than 1.5 WAR.

But I would also advise the White Sox not to trade Robert right now. I don’t think it’s likely he will have another year where he is under 1.5 wins. A bounce back year and they can get more prospects back, even if the headliner is still probably only an FV50.

Brad JohnsonMember
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

This is a pivotal year for Arroyo’s prospectdom. A big season, and we’re talking about him as a top 25 or 50 prospect. No sign of growth, and he’ll be tracking as a future utility guy.

All of which is to say, he’s definitely a sensible start to a Robert offer. Build around him with something like Cam Collier, Chase Petty, and Ricardo Cabrera, and they probably have a deal.

Some clubs don’t feel comfortable trading prospects before they have a clear vision of how they’ll turn out. The Reds prospects are all extremely volatile. (Burns and Rhett because they’re pitchers, the rest because that’s just the type of player they are)

averagejoe15Member since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  Brad Johnson

I mean I pretty much disagree entirely on this Arroyo take.

Arroyo was the #52 prospect on this site in 2023. Now there are more doubts about his ability to play SS in the bigs and he’s coming off a shoulder injury which should temper expectations for this season.

If he treads water this year or even performs below his track record I don’t see much of a material change in his current report card as a potential second division regular at 2B. It would likely take 2 poor seasons in a row or clear tool deterioration not linked to the injury.

If he has a big season with the bat I still really don’t see how he jumps higher than someone like Marcelo Mayer (#57 this year) who has a similar hitting profile with a better track record, just performed at AA where Arroyo should be this year, and seems more likely to remain big league viable at SS.

If Arroyo has a huge breakout where he suddenly fixes all the holes in his game and actualizes his potential then yea put him in the top 50. But this isn’t a guy with top 15-20 prospect potential regardless unless there’s a material change in the evaluation of his tools themselves.

In terms of upside we’re talking something like Willy Adames with below average defense or Ozzie Albies with way less contact and higher rated D. That’s what, a 3 WAR player? Not really the kind of upside you talk about with high volatility prospects.

Brad JohnsonMember
1 year ago
Reply to  averagejoe15

I don’t see much of a material change in his current report card as a potential second division regular at 2B

If you want to say that’s different than a utility guy, I guess you’re free to make that argument. To me, a second division 2B is the same thing as a utility guy.

Otherwise, the upside is predicated on how the power plays. Remember, he’s trending toward a debut at GABP. Lift and barrel feel are emphasized in his reports, as is pulled contact. It’s not hard to imagine projecting him as a 30 HR guy when the dust clears after 2025. Not calling that likely, but as a 75th or 80th percentile outcome…it’s plausible.

Coming off a lost age 20 season in the Statcast era, the range of plausible outcomes is enormous.

Adames is a pretty good upside comp.

Last edited 1 year ago by Brad Johnson
cashgod27Member since 2024
1 year ago

Whether to release LeMahieu is an interesting case study in how on- and off- field factors play a role in decision-making.

From a strictly on-field standpoint, it makes no sense to have him on the roster. They have enough bench guys that can play the infield corners, and he can’t stay healthy or hit when he is.

But to release a veteran struggling with injury before he gets an extended chance to prove himself sets a bad precedent for the organization. He was an above-average regular as recent as the second half of 2023 – this isn’t a Hicks situation where he was dead weight for three years. If the Yankees cut him with two years left, based on 200 PAs where he may have been playing through one injury or another, without giving him another Spring Training to prove himself, other veteran players considering the Yankees might think, “I wouldn’t go to a team that would treat me like that”. In fact, there’s a (somewhat dubiously sourced) report that the Yankees did intend to DFA him in September, but Judge and the other vets on the team intervened and they put him on the IL instead.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
1 year ago
Reply to  cashgod27

OTOH, the Dodgers cut Jason Heyward (beloved teammate and Freddie Freeman’s bff) *right after* he hit a game winning, pinch-hit HR to make room for (other beloved, but not necessarily *better* teammate) Chris Taylor. Things worked out ok for Freddie later in the season and LA’s free agency endeavors.

Last edited 1 year ago by Smiling Politely
averagejoe15Member since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  cashgod27

I really don’t think the Yankees need to cut DJ. He adds depth to the roster and they’re paying him either way. Until a trade or something similar demands a roster slot I see little reason to cut a guy who can probably perform at a 2 WAR level when playing this year, especially if his teammates want him around and he’s a net positive to the clubhouse.

Now if the Yankees didn’t make a move for a guy who provides more certainty – i.e., Arenado – because they believe in DJ and other internal options that’s a different issue.

But I would push back on the idea that cutting DJ would set a bad precedent for the Yankees. This isn’t a situation where they brought in a vet last year or this year, he got hurt, and now the Yankees want to cut him. Nor is it a situation where the guy put up 5 WAR two years ago, hasn’t been healthy since, and the team wants to cut him.

If the clubhouse wants him back that’s one thing, but it’s separate from setting a bad precedent for other veteran FAs. DJ is getting his money either way and the Yankees didn’t mess with his health. He’s simply on a contract that is outlasting his usefulness to the roster, that’s the risk both teams and players face on the end of a long-term deal.

Realistically, the Yankees should have cut Rizzo prior to last year, but the difference is the team did mess with his health. That would have more fallen into the bad precedent category than this. Dodgers should also probably cut Chris Taylor but teams are showing a willingness to keep positive clubhouse guys with positional versatility around.

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
1 year ago

I loved the recent commenter suggestion that BOS flip Vaughn Grissom to DC to see how he does at third.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

I don’t know if that was me or not but Grissom needs a fresh start pretty badly and the Nationals are about as perfect a fit as I can imagine. He needs to settle in a corner spot and learn how to play it, third is the ideal position, and the Nationals are an ideal team to give it to him.

The problem is, I don’t have a clue what would be fair to give up. His value is pretty much shot, I’m not sure he’s worth Drew Millas or Nasim Nunez…

Brad JohnsonMember
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yea, he’s pretty untradeable at the moment because of what happened with the Chris Sale deal. They won’t get a notable piece in return, so selling would be terrible optics. If he struggles again this year, they’ll get the same (non)return next winter, but the optics won’t be as bad because more fans will have adjusted their expectations to match reality.

The bigger question is…do the Nats even want to bother giving him 3B reps? I just don’t see the appeal of Grissom. He’s a utility guy who isn’t good at offense or defense.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Brad Johnson

He is projected to be about a league-average hitter, based on his excellent minor league track record and his very successful debut with the Braves. I don’t think that he’s anywhere near as good as his 120 wRC+ in his debut, but he had a 7.4% barrel% then while having a reasonable balance of walks to strikeouts. A league average hitter with no current position but who might have one does have some value to a rebuilding team.

There are almost no teams that would be a good fit for Grissom. No team that is any good like the Red Sox should want to work through his growing pains, and a team that is super bad like the Marlins is so far away from contention it’s not really worth their time.

But the Nationals are in the sweet spot: They are starting Paul DeJong at 3B, have a wave of young guys about to come up, and are projected for about 70-75 wins. Not too far away from being respectable, but almost certainly not yet.

Aside from the Nationals and the A’s, I can’t think of another team in this bucket. The Brewers and Mariners and Yankees are too good in other parts of their roster, and the Marlins and White Sox and Angels are too far away from fielding a real team (despite what the Angels think).

Uncle SpikeMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think it’s way too early to give up on Grissom. Unless the Sox got a solid return, let him try to work it out in the minors as there still good upside there IMO. He had a solid 2022 at both the major and minor league level (at age 21). He was solid in the minors in 2023 but struggle a bit in the majors, but it was over a course of 80 ABs. He was just ok in the minors last year and struggled mightily in the bigs. However, it was only 114 ABs in an injury plagued season. Now healthy, having just turned 24 and put on 20 pounds of muscle, I think there’s still good potential there and would much rather gamble on that then get some marginal middle reliever or 40 grade prospect in return.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think bad teams like the Marlins or White Sox make the most sense, there are no stakes and they are in dire need of assets that can return value, which you either need to buy or develop.

Grissom is 24 with plenty of team control at low dollars left. Give him a year or two of runway in the Majors so he can hopefully build some value while allowing you to avoid overexposing your prospects.

That said, it won’t happen this year regardless. There’s no incentive for the Sox to move him this year as he has no trade value but does have an option year left.

If he can show some signs of life at AAA this year maybe he can be swapped for an older lottery ticket RP. If he doesn’t show any signs of life in MLB or AAA then he’s DFAed next year and a rebuilding team scoops him up for free.

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Maybe the Nats hope they have a flippable relief pitcher at the deadline that they can send to Boston?

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I believe it was me in response to your broader suggestion that he needs a change of scenery.

I think it’s still true, generally, but it is worth noting that the Nast signed DeJong even with Jose Tena in house from a deadline trade last year with CLE. Now, DeJong is just a guy filling a hole, but Tena is basically an off-brand Grissom. I’d still rather have Grissom instead of DeJong because there’s a better possibility he develops than there is that DeJong rejuvenates. And the chance that one of Tena or Grissom develops is better than the chance of either of them individually. In any case they’re all holding down the corner for Brady House, and I don’t think that the Nats are interested in collecting more theoretical 3Bs.

NorthWallMember since 2021
1 year ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

Carter Kieboom has entered the chat

David Klein
1 year ago

I’m fine with Cabrera or Young as short term fill ins if Minter misses the first few weeks. I’m very high on Kranick and Zuber from the right side and think they might be this years Nunez and Garrett.

NATS FanMember since 2018
1 year ago

I like the Turnbull idea!

chipjoshMember since 2019
1 year ago

Wouldn’t Kelenic and De La Cruz be that Braves OF depth once Acuña is back and displaces their platoon?

rickdugo3000
1 year ago

Getting Crochet extended is obviously the most important thing for the sox right now and the best way to make the future red sox better. It’s just a little bit of a cop out here because it’s obviously going to happen, likely in April for luxury tax reasons, just like the Bello, Rafaela, and Whitlock extensions over the last few years.

I would have loved to see a less-obvious and less-guaranteed option for the red sox — but maybe this just means they’re a pretty damn complete team?

darren
1 year ago
Reply to  rickdugo3000

I believe they adjusted the rules so that teams can decide whether extensions signed in the offseason include the upcoming season or not, for luxury tax purposes.

I also don’t think it’s a forgone conclusion. It makes sense for both sides, of course, but they may just disagree on what a fair value is.

Brad JohnsonMember
1 year ago

I suspect Spencer Turnbull is still injured. Otherwise, someone would have bet on his 2024 success. That the Phillies opted for Joe Ross (for more money) is pretty telling.

Sporter's Five HorsesMember since 2014
1 year ago

Of all the teams David Robertson would benefit, the Nats are low on the list. So I can’t argue with listing Robertson elsewhere in this series. That said, if I had to prioritize assets for the Nats to pursue to boost their fringy cinderella wildcard odds, I’d pick RPs before SPs. Especially a SP who offers 50/75 innings of #2 upside before injury

carterMember since 2020
1 year ago

I would imagine trying to win another championship, and proximity to his home are the most important things at his age. Also I highly doubt a 40+ year old relief pitcher has any interest in spring training.

yorobertMember since 2018
1 year ago

To give the Dodgers a little more breathing room, I’d like to see them send their top five prospects and about $25 million to the Royals, in exchange for shortstop Bobby Witt. Gives him a bigger stage to display his talent, and then let Betts and Edman decide what position they each wish to play. It would take some of the pressure off of the Dodgers.

eph1970Member since 2025
1 year ago
Reply to  yorobert

Take a step back and ask why the Royals would consider such a trade. They’ve got an incredibly talented MLB player. He seems happy in KC. If he needs advice, George Brett, Eric Hosmer, Mike Moustakis, Patrick Mahomes, and Travis Kelsey will return his calls. If he really, really needs advice, Taylor Swift would certainly call back.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  yorobert

The Dodgers fans in this comment section have been trying to come up with a plausible trade for Bobby Witt for basically his entire time in the majors and every time they come in at like 20% of what it would take. He’s probably the most valuable player from a performance-contract perspective in MLB. To get keep the Royals from hanging up the phone they would have to trade their whole freaking farm system.

Last edited 1 year ago by sadtrombone
carterMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Obv this isn’t the situation, but apparently mlb doesn’t have rules against trading cash? Just that it usually gets vetoed. Is that right?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  carter

IIRC you can do anything if the total cash changing hands is less than $500K or $1M in the transaction, but beyond that you need commissioner approval. Either the cash traded with a player to pay down a salary is in a separate group that is automatically approved, or it’s just traditionally approved.

But my guess is that if you’re going to sell a player for more than that limit–let’s say the Dodgers offered to buy Maikel Garcia for $3M–that the commissioner would veto that. We don’t see any deals like that, and I’m assuming it’s because front offices have gotten messages that deals like that will not be approved.

pumpsie greenMember since 2022
1 year ago

Dan, 9 of the 10 are realistic, as promised. Trading Vlad is simply not. The team shelled out millions for Scherzer, Santander and Hoffman, and traded youth for Gimenez – right or wrong, they are absolutely not going in that direction. You tried to stay away from the completely implausible ones; probably didn’t reach that goal on this one, unfortunately.

darren
1 year ago

Sorry I missed this at the time. But this stood out:

After also taking into account his $4.5 million salary for 2025 and the fact that he’s still arbitration eligible for 2026, ZiPS suggests offering Crochet a seven-year, $175 million contract starting this season.

So ZIPS thinks it makes sense to guarantee a serious injury risk his 2026 salary, then tack on something like 5/$160M? This is for a pitcher who is projected to put up about 15 WAR over those 5 years if he stays fairly healthy.

A comp to the Fried deal would support this but I don’t see a lot of other comps that would. And even with Fried, Fried was a free agent and was reasonably healthy. Crochet is two years away. Does ZIPS include any kind of discount for the fact that the team is taking on considerable risk? Or is it simply his arb salaries + his market value from 2027-2031?

I wonder what Crochet’s side is thinking. Do they turn down something like 5 years/$120 mil and take their chances with his health? 6/150?

Lastly, this is a much different picture if Crochet is projected for 4.0/4.0/3.9 WAR the next three years, as it says on his personal page. Why the difference?