How Long Will Aaron Judge Hold Court?

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The baseball season will soon be upon us, which means it’s time for an age-old question: How long until the best hitter’s reign ends? This year, and seemingly every year of late, that means Aaron Judge. You can quibble about who the best overall player is, but Judge is pretty clearly the best offensive player on the planet. Over the last four years, he has a composite 204 wRC+, miles clear of the competition, and he just put up that exact number in 2025. In 2026, we think he’s going to be the best hitter again, obviously.

Will we in 2027, though? It depends, of course. If Judge looks like his usual self this year, it’s hard to imagine anyone taking the crown. I wanted a little bit more rigor than that, however, so I dusted off the Marcel projection methodology. Marcel is what Tom Tango dubbed the minimum sufficient projection system. It’s as simple as taking the last three years of performance, weighting them, and tossing in some league average.

Let’s take Judge’s last few seasons as an example. I grabbed his wOBA and plate appearances for 2023-2025 and threw them into a table. Then I calculated league average across those three years (the exact calculation uses some weighting to match Judge’s playing time by season). That looks like this:

Aaron Judge, Marcel Projections
Year PA wOBA
2025 679 .463
2024 704 .476
2023 458 .420
League Average 600 .313

Turning those into a Marcel projection is simple. Multiply the most recent year’s plate appearances by five, the next-most-recent year’s by four, the next by three, and the league average by two. Take a weighted average of these new values. The result is Judge’s 2026 Marcel projection – which works out to a .440 wOBA. That tracks logically, which is the point of Marcel. It’s really close to what you and I would think about a player’s skill. Post a wOBA above .450 for two straight years, and I’ll expect you to come back to the pack a little but still do something outrageous the next year.

Using this methodology, here are the top projected hitters for 2026:

Top 12 MLB Hitters,
2026 Marcel Projections
Name 2026 wOBA
Aaron Judge .440
Shohei Ohtani .412
Juan Soto .391
Ronald Acuña Jr. .383
Yordan Alvarez .378
Freddie Freeman .371
Ketel Marte .369
Kyle Tucker .368
Corey Seager .368
Bryce Harper .365
Bobby Witt Jr. .365
Kyle Schwarber .365

Well, yeah, sure. That’s just a list of 12 incredible hitters. (I went to 12 because of the three-way tie for 10th). That’s what Marcel projections are supposed to do. These guys have been very good in the last three years, so we think they’ll continue to be very good. One quick note: You don’t see Nick Kurtz on this list because Marcel penalizes rookies pretty heavily – it fills in a lot of league average, basically. It’s a known weakness, and one that I acknowledge. Other than that shortcoming, though, Marcel does a great job of mirroring common sense. That’s the benefit of this system – it’s simple, explainable, and spits out reasonable answers.

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Regardless, there’s no question that Judge is the best hitter today. To figure out when Judge might get leapfrogged at the top, we have to look to the future. I plugged in 2026 Depth Chart projections for everyone we have a projection for and used those to calculate some 2027 Marcels:

Top 12 MLB Hitters,
2027 Marcel Projections
Name 2027 wOBA
Aaron Judge .430
Shohei Ohtani .404
Juan Soto .391
Yordan Alvarez .375
Ronald Acuña Jr. .373
Vladimir Guerrero Jr. .372
Kyle Tucker .367
Ketel Marte .366
Bobby Witt Jr. .366
Kyle Schwarber .365
Nick Kurtz .361
Bryce Harper .361

Boy, Judge is still at the top by a lot, huh? Obviously he is. He has the best offensive projection in baseball this year. He started with the best accumulated batting line. Add those two together, and the Marcel technique is always going to point to him as the best. But we’re not done here because that’s not the question I’m trying to answer.

First, I wanted to see how poorly Judge would have to hit for us to replace him in our heads as the best hitter. In other words, I worked out what wOBA he’d have to produce in 2026 to end up with the same 2027 projection as each of the next guys on the list. Here’s that list, along with a rough wRC+ translation for each for people who don’t swim through wOBA data all day like I do:

How Much Decline for Judge To Match These Projections?
Name Judge’s 2026 wOBA To Equal Player’s 2027 Projection wRC+ Translation
Aaron Judge — —
Shohei Ohtani .340 120
Juan Soto .303 94
Yordan Alvarez .257 63
Ronald Acuña Jr. .251 59
Vladimir Guerrero Jr. .248 56
Kyle Tucker .234 47
Ketel Marte .231 45
Bobby Witt Jr. .231 45
Kyle Schwarber .228 43
Nick Kurtz .217 35
Bryce Harper .217 35

In other words, if Ohtani hits his 165 wRC+ Depth Charts projection for 2026 and Judge posts a 120 wRC+, they’d both have the same Marcel projection in 2027. That doesn’t track quite perfectly in my head, but honestly, it’s close. Judge has hit a lot better than Ohtani over the last three years – .312/.445/.674 (203 wRC+) to Ohtani’s .298/.397/.640 (177 wRC+). If Ohtani is 45 points of wRC+ better than Judge in 2026, that gap will collapse toward zero, and Judge’s trajectory will look a lot scarier.

You can at least theoretically calculate how far Judge would have to fall to end up behind other hitters on this list. I’m not sure it’s all that meaningful, though. If Judge posts the .231 wOBA necessary to make his projection for 2027 the same as Marte’s, there will probably be some obvious signs of what’s wrong, like a missing arm or leg. Another possibility would be a Space Jam situation, where his powers are siphoned away by Monstars. But there aren’t any realistic scenarios where Judge suddenly hits like Leody Taveras this year, so this type of analysis has a clear limit. I think that limit is basically Ohtani. If Judge isn’t considered the best hitter in baseball next year, and it’s entirely because he has declined, the only guy realistically to move ahead of him would be Ohtani.

Judge isn’t the only one whose performance can change, though. I think it’s more interesting to wonder about who might pass him if he keeps playing at his current projected level. Instead of moving Judge’s performance down, I moved every other hitter’s performance up until they had the same 2027 Marcel projection as him. This time I left off wRC+, because it’s hard to figure out when the numbers go so high:

2026 wOBA Needed To Catch Judge in 2027
Name wOBA To Match Judge
Aaron Judge —
Shohei Ohtani .481
Juan Soto .509
Yordan Alvarez .524
Ronald Acuña Jr. .507
Vladimir Guerrero Jr. .542
Kyle Tucker .525
Ketel Marte .529
Bobby Witt Jr. .540
Kyle Schwarber .542
Nick Kurtz .552
Bryce Harper .548

Some of these numbers are at least theoretically possible. Ohtani’s .481 breakeven is reasonable — that’s in the neighborhood of a 210 wRC+, essentially a peak Judge batting line — even if it’s not particularly likely. There are eight different player-seasons with a 200 wRC+ or higher in the 21st century. To be fair, Barry Bonds has four of those and Judge has three, but if we’ve learned anything over these last eight years, it’s that we shouldn’t doubt Ohtani. Soto and Acuña are at least flirting with reality in their breakevens, too.

Past that, we’re getting really silly. Could Bobby Witt Jr. post a .540 wOBA and ascend to Judge’s equal? Never say never, but since 1948, there are only five player-seasons with even a .520 wOBA — three from Bonds and two from Ted Williams. Kurtz could equal Judge by posting the greatest offensive season of all time. Hey, something to aim for!

I wanted to do one last permutation, where I moved Judge’s performance down and each hitter’s up. That’s the way that he is most likely to get passed; he fades slightly and someone else bursts onto the scene. This time, I told the computer that Judge performed at that player’s projection for 2026. To use Ohtani as an example, Depth Charts has him down for a .407 wOBA in 2026, so I told the computer that Judge posted that .407 mark. Then, I calculated the number Ohtani would have to hit to end up with the same projection as Judge in 2027. That came out to .473. So if Judge hits to a .407 wOBA and Ohtani hits to a .473 wOBA, they’ll have identical Marcel projections in 2027. Here’s the whole list:

Another Way To Catch Judge
Name If Judge wOBAs… This Hitter Must wOBA
Aaron Judge — —
Shohei Ohtani .407 .473
Juan Soto .400 .495
Yordan Alvarez .393 .506
Ronald Acuña Jr. .389 .489
Vladimir Guerrero Jr. .382 .510
Kyle Tucker .374 .490
Ketel Marte .362 .480
Bobby Witt Jr. .362 .488
Kyle Schwarber .361 .488
Nick Kurtz .371 .512
Bryce Harper .366 .503

I think this is pretty close to the spirit of the question. The top 10 guys on the list have wOBAs that Judge could reasonably post in 2026 without some type of catastrophic change. It’s not likely by any means, but it’s at least within the realm of possibility. But even if Judge declines, they’ll have to have incredible years of their own to catch up to him. Could Tucker post a .490 wOBA in 2026? Indubitably. Could Judge post a .374 wOBA in 2026, Tucker’s Depth Charts projection? Surely. The odds of both of those happening are quite low, but they’re not zero.

Perhaps that’s not a satisfying answer, but the truth is that it’s going to be very hard for Judge not to look like the best hitter in baseball in 2027. He’s head and shoulders above everyone else. He’s been head and shoulders above everyone else for so long that even if he declines, he has a long track record to fall back on, and in this instance, past performance often is indicative of future results. Judge won’t reign forever, but I’m pretty positive he’ll still be atop the heap in a year’s time.





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Sporter's Five HorsesMember since 2016
6 months ago

Reminiscent of Mike Trout’s many years atop the projection and actuals leaderboards, and in a separate fashion, Evan Longoria’s many years atop the trade value leaderboard.

And in a looser sense, this article is somewhat in the spirit of Bill James SP rankings / *golf leaderboard*. Actuals plus forward-looking Marcels seems like a potentially interesting addition to that discussion.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago

He’s probably going to project as the best hitter in baseball until he has an injury serious enough that it saps his athleticism.

His average wRC+ from 2022 through 2025 is thirty five points higher the #2 hitter on the list over that span (Ohtani). He has the three highest wRC+’s in that span. The #4 season is Yordan Alvarez, which is nineteen points lower than Judge’s #3 season of 204.

In that span of time, his hard hit rate is above 60%. His Barrel% is above 26%. His OBP is .439, with the lowest number in that group being the furthest year away. Nobody even comes close to these numbers. When he comes up to bat he has about a 45% chance of reaching base (or hitting a homer), and about a 16% chance of having an extra base hit. His AVG+ is 128, only one point behind that of Luis Arraez, but his ISO+ is three and a half times bigger than Arraez’s.

He’s not invincible at the plate or anything like that, even the very best players of all time get out about half the time. But outside of known steroid users we haven’t seen another player who does this much damage when he makes contact and avoids outs this well since late stage Ted Williams. Back then he was running OBPs in the .500 range and was getting an extra base hit 15% of the time when he wasn’t walking.

It’s going to take something more potent than the normal aging process to pull him off of projecting as the best hitter in baseball because he’s something like a standard deviation and a half better than any other hitter right now. Enjoy this moment, if baseball still exists in 2060 and you’re still alive you’re going to get to tell your descendants about the time you got to see Aaron Judge dominate major league baseball.

Fun-Hating DorkMember since 2019
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think it’s that point you hint at — what leveled up Judge from “scary power threat” to “one of the best hitters in baseball history” was the evolution of his hit tool to something in the 50 range. A guy with 80 raw shouldn’t really be allowed to be even within sniffing distance of a 50 hit.

The biggest change visually is subtle, and as insane as it sounds, it really does seem like he really doesn’t try to swing as hard as possible anymore. Everything with him just flows easy now. You see fewer ridiculously long homers now, but there’s just a lot more consistency.

I’ve pointed this out a couple of times here, but from May ’24-May ’25, he batted over .360 over a 162 game stretch when league average is in the mid-.240s. I’d call them “video game numbers” but I don’t think most people are good enough at video games to hit those numbers.

mercyMember since 2017
6 months ago

It’s definitely noticeable that he isn’t trying to swing his hardest. In fact, it seems as though he tries to stay back as long as possible in order to track the ball better. His being able to stay back as long as humanely possible whilst still being able to do damage is what allows his hit tool to play up.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  mercy

Playing at 70%, baby!

I love Judge’s line about how his base plan is “hit a line drive through the second baseman’s head,” before adjusting to what arrives.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago

This was actually part of what took him from being a guy who couldn’t hit anything at all in his first cup of coffee to the second best hitter in the league in his first full season. This is Jeff Sullivan back in 2017 in “Help Evaluate Some of the Game’s Best Hitters”:

Judge hasn’t improved his contact out of the zone, but he’s greatly improved his rate of swings out of the zone, and he’s making his extra contact over the plate. Judge, in short, has quieted things down. He doesn’t need to swing at everything at 100%, because his 90% is the average player’s 110%.

The other part is that he focused more on getting the bat into the zone for longer. I disagreed strenuously with probably 60% of the analysis that Travis Sawchik made at Fangraphs, but he nailed it with this article “Aaron Judge has found the right track.” This is what he wrote there:

And that’s what Judge has focused on this offseason: giving himself greater margin for error, allowing himself to catch up to velocity or better overcome an initial misdiagnosis of a pitch. His physical skills, his ability to produce elite exit velocity, will still allow him to do damage on mis-hits. The right-field porch and power alley at Yankee Stadium II should also greatly encourage all-fields hitting.

jb1205Member since 2022
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The aging curve comes for everyone eventually, and Judge is getting close to that point. Per FG’s data, since 1950 only 4 hitters have ever averaged a wOBA of .430 or higher during their age 34 & 35 seasons: Larry Walker and Chipper Jones, and Bonds and McGwire (who received some pharmaceutical anti-aging assistance). Judge could absolutely hit the projections from this article, but it’s also incredibly rare for a guy his age to reach those numbers. There’s a pretty decent chance that the downward slope to his career starts soon.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  jb1205

Maybe it has already started. His wRC+ fell 16 points from 2024 to 2025. Of course, he still put up a wRC+ of 204.

That’s the thing about where he’s at. If he fell another 16 points every single year, he would reach the wRC+ of of the number two hitter from 2025 (Ohtani) in 2027. But he’s so far ahead of anyone else that if he put up a wRC+ of 188 in 2026 he’d be projected to be the #1 hitter in 2027 easily.

But I still think he’s going to get injured at some point soon and then he’ll slide out because he won’t be at full strength.

Last edited 6 months ago by sadtrombone
jb1205Member since 2022
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

What is it that suggests that his wRC+ would only fall by 16 points when he starts to decline, though? ZiPS is projecting him to drop from 204 to 175; Steamer is guessing 170. They project his wOBA to drop from .463 to .421 (ZiPS) or .415 (Steamer). Those numbers would be at or around what Ohtani put up last year, which suggests that it’s absolutely conceivable for Ohtani to pass Judge in either of these metrics this year.

Look at the wRC+ leaderboard for players in their age 30-33 seasons. Judge is at the top, followed by Robinson, Mantle, McGwire, McCovey, Bonds, Musial, Schmidt, Williams, and Mays. Take out the steroid guys and Ted Williams and what you see is that these guys had peaks from 29-34 where they had several seasons with a wRC+ of 175-195 and then started to range from 120-150 in their mid-to-late 30s. Judge is starting at a higher high than most of them, but even factoring that in, a wRC+ from 150-170 sounds completely reasonable to suggest, especially for 2027.

Judge has absolutely been the best hitter for the past few seasons, no question. It has been incredibly rare for guys to reach the heights he has reached (no tall guy pun intended). Running a wRC+ over 180 is just not something many guys have been able to sustain for more than a few years, particularly at his age. Maybe he’s the next Williams or Bonds and will be able to do it. Alternately, he might just start having a bunch of seasons where he is a top 5-10 hitter in the league.

soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
6 months ago

This feels like the sort of question ZiPS is perfectly suited to answer.

booondMember since 2019
6 months ago

It says 2027. But it is very tight.

Michael EisenbreyMember since 2024
6 months ago
Reply to  booond

This is how I learned that ZiPS projects Ohtani to hit 50+ homers again this year AND next year.

Last edited 6 months ago by Michael Eisenbrey
Yer Main GuyMember since 2024
6 months ago

I can see the value to using Marcel here. So simple you can plug in all the what-if scenarios you want.

MikeSMember since 2020
6 months ago

What does Bobby Witt Jr with a .540 wOBA even look like? With Witt’s defense, baserunning, and the SS adjustment, that’s gotta be like a 17 win season!

Last edited 6 months ago by MikeS
sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  MikeS

It would be the greatest season by a baseball player of all time. I’m not sure it would be particularly close.

In the current run environment that would be a wRC+ of at least 240, maybe quite a bit higher. Someone better with the fWAR formula could probably figure this out better than I could, but we’re looking at something like 2002 Barry Bonds Offensive run value (108.9) but with +7 Baserunning and +17.5 fielding and a +12.5 positional adjustment. I’m not sure how replacement runs are added in, but a replacement level player was about -22 in 2025 over 600 PAs. Runs per win is somewhere between 9 and 10, so let’s say 9.5? That comes out to about 16.6 fWAR.

Another way to do it would be to take someone who had a really hot streak for a short period of time and just prorate it out. In 1998 JD Drew had a 260 wRC+ over 41 PAs, at 1.6 Def and 0 BsR, that gave him 1.1 fWAR. Multiply all of that by 15 and you get to about 16.6 fWAR as well. That’s a little high on the defensive side and a little low on the baserunning side, but it sure seems like your 17 win season projection is a good estimate.

So far the greatest season of all time by WAR is 14.7 fWAR, the closest post-integration is 2002 Barry Bonds at 12.7 fWAR, and the greatest post-integration but not steroid era is Mickey Mantle at 11.4 in 1957 (Judge was at 11.3 in 2024). We’re looking at something that is 40% better than anything anyone has done that we should care about, and about 20% better than anything anyone has done ever.

MikeSMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Submitted to the mailbag to see how close we are.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
6 months ago
Reply to  MikeS

I got pretty similar numbers by rounding Bonds’s Off numbers to 110 (figuring that Witt would have more PAs) and making Witt’s 2025 Off that plus 7.4 for the baserunning. That’s around 80 higher Off than Witt had, divining by ten is 8 wins added to an 8.0 WAR season. And it’d be higher than that because Bonds was putting up .540 wOBA in a higher offensive environment.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  MikeS

Great idea. Much better than me getting fired because I spent all day trying to figure out how to calculate this.

EarthboundMisfitMember since 2024
6 months ago
Reply to  MikeS

Honus Wagner’s 1908? Even that isn’t quite there. It sure would be amazing!

asf123Member since 2019
6 months ago

I have to quibble a bit with the headline, because the actual question answered by the article (“Will Judge still be the best in *2027*?”) is quite different, and much more limited.

I was hoping for the headline question to be addressed, but it seems like the weakness in Marcel vis-a-vis rookies makes it a poorly suited tool for that question. On the list of top Marcel projections, I think Kurtz is the only player who is young enough to be on an upward trajectory (even Witt has peaked, at least per ZiPS). For everyone else, it’s just a matter of how fast their decline rate is relative to Judge’s. The guy who will catch Judge in 2029 or whatever is highly unlikely to be on the list given the methodology.

Last edited 6 months ago by asf123
PC1970Member since 2024
6 months ago
Reply to  asf123

That’s what I was wondering/hoping for.

If Judge has a normal aging curve, at what point is someone better than him? & if the other close comps are ALSO aging, who is the likely guy to topple Judge? Guys like Ohtani, Harper, Schwarber, Tucker are past or getting out of their prime. Alvarez & Acuna can’t stay healthy & you wonder if the injuries have hindered their peak going forward.

My guess is Kurtz or maybe Soto has another gear where his BA gets into the .300’s while maintaining his BB & power rates. Maybe someone like Konnor Griffin or McGonigle who arrive this year & then by 2029 are in their mid 20’s & entering their prime.

dodgerbleu
6 months ago
Reply to  PC1970

Yeah, seems like the only three there is a coinflips chance hasn’t had their career year are Soto, Kurtz and Witt. That’s really quite a statement for all of them, but especially for Kurtz.

I could also Ketel Marte having a bonkers .480 wOBA season… over 135 games.

Not sure I see Yordan over .500, but he could also have a juiced year… also over 135 games.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
6 months ago
Reply to  asf123

It’s not just the weakness in Marcel vis-a-vis rookies that makes it unsuitable for the headline question, it’s that Marcel regresses to the mean with no conception of the aging curve. I haven’t done the algebra, but I’m pretty sure that if you do a method of “take the last two seasons and mix in some regression to the mean” and iterate that, in the long term everyone regresses to the mean, but the guy with the two best starting values will stay on top forever.

This doesn’t mean Marcel isn’t well suited for the question Ben is asking, which is “how much over/underperformance this coming year is required for someone to project to outdo Judge the next year?” Or, if Judge does get bested, how ridiculously does the new, uh, chief official have to beat him for us not to expect that Judge will retake the, uh, seat of power next year? (Man this metaphor would work a lot better if the greatest hitter of our age was named after an executive official like Dave Kingman or Larry President.)

As sadtrombone said above, the real answer to the question of how long Judge will rule (that one works either way!) is probably “Until he gets an injury that keeps him from qualifying for the batting title.”

formerly matt wMember since 2025
6 months ago
Left of Centerfield
6 months ago

Yeah, this is something I was thinking about as well. If Judge were to put up a 120 wRC+ next year (or 130 or 140), he might be projected as the best hitter for 2027. But we might be wise to question if that is the right answer. Because a decline that steep + heading into age 35 season, should raise serious concerns about the future. Basically the difference between “will he be” and “should he be”.

shandykoufax
6 months ago
Reply to  asf123

2027 ZiPS has ohtani as Judge’s equal (technically ahead by 1-2 points of wRC+), and 2028 has Soto catch up to the two of them as well.
Not conclusive obviously.

grandbranyanMember since 2017
6 months ago

Thee only players with more than Judge’s 37.3 WAR from age 30 to 33 are Mays (39.1), Ruth (38.8), and Honus (38.6).

Aaron’s 204 wRC+ is first on that same leaderboard with only the Babe in shouting distance at 193 before Gehrig (177), Frank Rob (176) and Teddy (175) round out the top five.

Tough to compare aging curves to almost a hundred years ago but Ruth still managed a 194 wRC+ and 37.5 WAR from age 34 to 37 before falling off to “only” a 167 wRC+ and 6.7 WAR at age 38.

Williams racked a 199 wRC+ and 38.3 WAR from age 34 to 39.

Crazy that something like Hank Aaron’s 163 wRC+ and 36.5 WAR from age 34 to 39 would almost feel kinda disappointing from Judge to finish out his contract.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
6 months ago
Reply to  grandbranyan

A word also for Josh Gibson, who put up 15.9 WAR from 30 to 33, but only in 209 games because of the short Negro Leagues schedules. His wRC+ was 207. And of course he only played one more year before his tragic death.

jb1205Member since 2022
6 months ago
Reply to  grandbranyan

If you think replicating Aaron’s stats from age 34 to 39 would feel disappointing, you are expecting a lot! He’s got a great chance to remain a great hitter for a handful of years, but the guys you are citing are absolute outliers. Look at the last 40 years- the only guys who have even put up a wRC+ of at least 150 in that age range are Bonds, McGwire, Edgar Martinez, and Nelson Cruz (3 of whom were chemically enhanced. Judge is already an outlier for his recent age range, and he could absolutely continue to be one– but the mid-to-late 30s are brutal for a lot of players and I would never count on anyone to stay both healthy and elite in those years,

chubbswashburn
6 months ago

This is a fun exercise! One thought: I wonder if suggesting that a 210 wRC+ season for Ohtani would be “reasonable” reflects the same impulse that makes the Ohtani-Judge gap not “track” intuitively.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  chubbswashburn

Yeah, it doesn’t make sense to our brains that Judge is *that much better* than the second best hitter in baseball, so we try to shrink the gap to fit our framework from the last 15 years.

…but we’re wrong to do so.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago

Aaron Judge has broken our brains. The scale of what he is doing is so different than anything we have seen except roided out Bonds. And in bosoxforlife’s case–and probably only his case, because he’s old enough to grow up without the polio vaccine–Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle in 1957.

The complete list of players who have had a wRC+ of 200 or higher since 1951 with a minimum of 500 PAs is: Barry Bonds (roided obviously, 4x), Aaron Judge (3x), Mickey Mantle (2x), Ted Williams, Frank Thomas, and Mark McGwire (high-steroid Cardinals iteration). And Frank Thomas almost certainly would have fallen further had there not been a strike. There is basically no comparison for what he’s doing post-integration except cases where already fearsome sluggers steroided themselves into hitting 70 homers a year.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

And Thomas is the only other RHH on the list!

Hank is obviously the *greatest* RHH of all time…but I don’t actually think anyone competes with prime Judge on *best*.

He’s at 57 WAR7…with three =<6.0 seasons, haha!

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I did indeed watch Williams and Mantle and they were, without question, truly great hitters but hitting was easier then. The ball wasn’t a Titleist but, at the same time, every pitcher wasn’t touching 90 very often, if ever. Even as a Red Sox fan for life, it is impossible not be a fan of Aaron Judge. Only a fool doesn’t appreciate greatness and, IMHO, Judge’s 2025 season is as good as any I have ever seen. A .331/53/114 line in 2025 is incredible. If you prefer today’s line of .458/.688/1.144 that also measures up with the best years of Williams, can anybody comprehend a 233 OPS+ at age 38, and Mantle. If I may, I am going to include a brief story about polio. To those who didn’t live through it, the scourge of polio was overwhelming. In June of 1953, when I was 11, my best friend contracted polio. My brother and I played baseball with him every day. The evening my parents got the call from his parents that he had polio is etched so deep in my mind that it cannot be erased. We were quarantined for 3 weeks and were spared from that horribIe disease. I have always known I have had an angel on my shoulder, one who has looked over me numerous times, but no time has ever been more important. We were near the front of the line when the miracle of the Salk vaccine became available in 1955.

Last edited 6 months ago by bosoxforlife
sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

I actually remember that story very vividly. I sometimes worry what happens when a massive public health victory is erased from public memory through the very normal process of people who lived through it no longer being with us. It’s good to remind us of how awful things were before reliable vaccines, safe drinking water, pollution controls, etc.

PC1970Member since 2024
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think we’re seeing it now with measles making a comeback.

96mncMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Or the “unnormal” process of people choosing to ignore science for social media.

bookbookMember since 2019
6 months ago

The answer is kind of obvious. Cal Raleigh, 2026. As he continues to add 2 dozen extra homers per year, at some point Judge’s outfield defense can’t outweigh that.

bookbookMember since 2019
6 months ago
Reply to  bookbook

More seriously, Judge won’t be the best hitter in baseball forever. Like Trout, it will be a surprise when it comes.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  bookbook

Earlier up the thread I wrote that Judge will be the best hitter until he has some injury that saps his athleticism.

For Trout, he had two: The first one was a back injury that caused something called costovertebral dysfunction, which was first diagnosed in 2022. Didn’t seem to slow him down in 2022, but by 2023 it was clear something had changed. And then he had repeated meniscus injuries in 2024, which led to a chronic condition in his knee.

jb1205Member since 2022
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Judge has had a historic run from ages 30-33, but there’s nothing about that that makes him immune to the aging curve. He may be one of the guys who remain elite in their mid-30s, but he could just as easily start a slow or precipitous decline at any moment. I’m not hoping for it or predicting it, but I’m surprised at the confidence some folks have here that he will avoid it.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  jb1205

He *is* one of those freaky smooth/effortless athletes – never got the chance to watch Mr. May live, but his highlights are the closest thing I’ve seen in terms of body control and athleticism…like turning on an inside fastball with obscene long levers.

Time’s undefeated, but I think he ages well – Stanton was already physically done.

jb1205Member since 2022
6 months ago

He may look good, but he’s also had a number of injuries in the past. He’s played in 112 games or fewer in 4 of his 9 seasons since becoming a starter (one of which, granted, was the pandemic season).

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  jb1205

Only one in the last five years was a hard tissue injury from a dogshit stadium.

chisoxmatt
6 months ago
Reply to  bookbook

Raleigh is busch league strikeout or HR, low average. Not a top 50 batter.

Jason BMember since 2017
6 months ago
Reply to  chisoxmatt

Michael Busch > Randy Bush > Homer Bush > Busch league hitter > bush league hitter

Athletics Fan Surrounded by GuardiansMember since 2025
6 months ago

>>He’s been head and shoulders above everyone else for so long
He’s only 6 foot 7, there have to be at least a few 6′ 8″ guys in the league. Tyler Glasnow comes to mind.

I’ll just show myself out.

steveo
6 months ago

He’s the best player in baseball. Ohtani doesn’t even have one combined 10 WAR season. Judge has 3. I don’t know why Ohtani is the consensus best player in baseball and has been for several years when he hasn’t been better than Judge over the last 3-4 years. Also Judge has over a 1 OPS in the WBC and people think he’s been a bum. I guess it’s just Anti-Yankees bias. If he were a Ray or Diamondback or something he’d be universally loved.

Ostensibly RidiculousMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  steveo

When a guy hits 3 home runs while striking out 10 batters in a playoff game and its not a total surprise its pretty hard to not think “he’s the best I’ve ever seen”

steveo
6 months ago

Well it’s one game. He doesn’t do that over 162 games. If he did, he’d be better. You could say he’s more talented, I suppose. But he’s not the better player until he can do it for a full season.

Jason BMember since 2017
6 months ago
Reply to  steveo

He doesn’t do that over 162 games. If he did, he’d be better.

A guy with 486 HR batting and 1620 Ks pitching would be pretty outstanding, I guess you got him there.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  steveo

He hasn’t been “the best” but he’s unquestionably the one with the most tools and the highest ceiling. When else has a guy has ever ran a 125 AVG+ with 54 homers and 59 steals in one season, and then another only a couple years earlier where he struck out 219 batters and ran a 59 ERA- and FIP-?

It’s super easy to get carried away and say “what would happen if he did both of those in the same season?” It would be something like a 14 WAR season.

I personally don’t think he’ll ever put up more than Judge’s 11.3 fWAR from 2024 because I don’t think his arm is going to be healthy enough to pitch for 160 innings in a year anymore, and even if he does the chances he does it in the same year he puts up a 180 wRC+ is pretty unlikely. But the mere fact that it’s possible…nobody else has a path anything like that.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’ll also repeat something else about Ohtani: It is my opinion that he literally could do anything on the baseball field if he had trained to do it in his teens. The only possible exception is catching, and that’s only a “possible” exception. He’s got the speed, agility, arm, and coordination to play any position. If you traveled through a multiverse to collect Ohtanis who were trained as shortstops, center fielders, those that focused only on pitching, etc you would have a 26-man Ohtani team better than any all-star team I can think of.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Great shout on him having the frame for any position on the diamond.

I’ll add a few more:

Basketball:
PG
SG
SF

Gridiron Football:
QB
WR
TE
DE
ILB
OLB
FS/SS

Ass. Football:
Striker
Wing

Rugby Football:
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15

Gaelic Football:
Half-Back
Half-Forward
Forward

Hurling:
All of it.

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Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago

(The soccer was largely a guess and I don’t know Aussie Rules or any form of hockey well enough to assay the correct positions – please “Yes and” me!)

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 months ago

I don’t know about pro basketball because those players are freak athletes even among freak athletes. 60 grade speed just doesn’t cut it when you have to defend against Donovan Mitchell and Anthony Edwards.

But I can’t rule out that he could do it.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I actually do think he’d be a Klay Thompson type – obscene coordination and a sturdy frame.

dodgerbleu
6 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yeah I can’t think of anyone. But if you get but Ohtani’s you can at least take the pre-2020 25 man roster rules. Everything in moderation, ya know..

wheelhouseMember since 2022
6 months ago
Reply to  steveo

I looked it up at some point and Jon Lester has thrown more innings in MLB since Ohtani’s debut than Ohtani has. He’s a perennial threat to have like a 14 WAR season, but he’s never actually done it because his body just can’t handle it at this level. The 9 WAR hitter and the 5 WAR pitcher haven’t lined up in the same season. It’s entirely possible that this is the year that that happens, as it’s been most years, but he’s also not young anymore.

What Ohtani undoubtedly is is the most irreplicable player in modern MLB history, but that’s too many syllables so people just say he’s the GOAT even if it’s not particularly true by any actual statistical measurement.

steveo
6 months ago
Reply to  wheelhouse

That seems like a fake stat lol. Also I think there’s close to a zero chance the 9 WAR hitter and 5 WAR pitcher line up together. Especially considering he’s only been a 5 WAR pitcher once. I don’t think it’s a coincidence he’s found another level as a hitter when he basically stopped pitching. He’s incredible, obviously, but with total production in one season hasn’t even eclipsed Judge’s third best season.

jb1205Member since 2022
6 months ago
Reply to  steveo

He’s been the best hitter for the past 4 years, for sure. He also only had one season with a wRC+ higher than 150 before his age 30 season. He’s got 1800 fewer career PA than David Wright (whose career people like to say is too short to qualify him for the HOF). He’s in the midst of an absolutely incredible, historic power hitting prime that has sent his career rate stats through the stratosphere, but he’s not much of a defender or baserunner.

Putting up with haters is the cost of being a Yankee or Yankees fan.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
6 months ago
Reply to  jb1205

He only had one season with a wRC+ higher than 150 before his age 30 season–another way to put that is, from 2017 to 2021, there were 45 qualified seasons with a wRC+ of 150 or higher, and Judge had three of them. I think the only batter with more is Mike Trout, and only Bryce Harper and Fernando Tatis Jr. had three.

Not to mention that twenty of those 45 came in 2020, including Dom Smith, Wil Myers, Luke Voit, and Brandon Lowe–and the other three guys from the first paragraph but not Judge. He’s good! Even his defense and baserunning are decent.

steveo
6 months ago

Juan Soto’s career wRC+ is 158 lol. Judge’s pre-ascension levels was basically Juan Soto level production with better defense + baserunning. We won’t see a batter on his level in our lifetime, I don’t think.

jb1205Member since 2022
6 months ago
Reply to  steveo

Soto has already had five years with a wRC+ above 150 through his age 26 season; Judge didn’t even have his 2nd until his age 30 season. There were six guys with a wRC+ higher than Judge in 2018, 13 in 2019, skip 2020 if you want, and then 5 in 2021. Judge has been a great hitter since he came into the league, no question about it! But he wasn’t “The Best Hitter in Baseball” until his age 30 season in 2022.

Judge’s first full year was his age 25 season; from his age 25 through age 29 seasons, his wRC+ was 155. Trout’s was 180; he had 11 consecutive seasons above 160. And Trout had better baserunning and defense.

Judge’s peak has been one of the best ever, but it started late and hasn’t lasted that long yet. Maybe he’ll sustain it for a while longer, good for him if so.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
6 months ago
Reply to  jb1205

In fairness…he was at exactly 150 twice during that span, and his one season above was at 175.

But yeah, the better proxy for his hitting from 25-29 is Ohtani.

jb1205Member since 2022
6 months ago

Sure, he was at exactly 150, which is fantastic, and he had one season at 174 which is elite! But Trout was even better that year; and, every other year until 2022, there were at least a handful of guys who hit better than Judge. He didn’t separate himself as the best until very recently.

You can use Ohtani as a comparison for 25-29 if you like, but there are plenty of other guys, some pretty recent, who were even better (in comparison to the league) over that age range. Trout, Thomas, Pujols, pre-roid Bonds– all of them had a wRC+ average over 170. Bagwell, Votto, and Piazza were all over 160. Soto and Alvarez are at 168, but neither has played through their age 29 season yet. Judge was great over those ages, but they weren’t numbers that we hadn’t seen anyone put up before or haven’t seen anyone put up since.

Rallymonkey5Member since 2018
6 months ago

My guess is the guy who passes him will be Soto. Maybe in 2027.

steveo
6 months ago
Reply to  Rallymonkey5

Soto doesn’t have enough power and he hits too many groundballs. If anything it’ll be Kurtz or some other brute masher. But I think after Judge declines, it’ll be a rotation of whoever has a career year with babip luck who leads MLB in wRC+. I don’t think it’ll be one player over and over like with Judge.

Rallymonkey5Member since 2018
6 months ago
Reply to  steveo

What a world where in when a guy with 84 homers the last 2 seasons doesn’t have enough power. I get it though, it’s Aaron Judge’s world.

Rallymonkey5Member since 2018
6 months ago

This boggles the mind: Judge is at his peak right now. Mike Trout was at his peak 7-10 years ago, and my how he has fallen. Trout is only 8 months older than Judge.

jb1205Member since 2022
6 months ago
Reply to  Rallymonkey5

Their timelines are incredibly different.Trout started his peak in 2012 and his wRC+ didn’t drop below 160 for the first time until 2023. He had 5 seasons with a wRC+ above 160 before Judge had his first in 2017. His eleventh consecutive season at that level was in 2022, when Judge had his second. Trout had a sustained peak that would be almost impossible for Judge to match at this point, even if his peak was not as high.

chisoxmatt
6 months ago

Go look at the plate discipline for Judge and Ohtani at baseball savant. They strikeout at an enormous rate. They are hyped by the mlb because of the HR. But they are not the best batters. Give me Soto Betts Tucker Ramirez Marte etc etc

Jason BMember since 2017
6 months ago
Reply to  chisoxmatt

I want to sign up for chisoxmatt’s batshit hot takes quarterly

Rallymonkey5Member since 2018
6 months ago

Let’s see what the long-term projections say:

2027: Judge
2028: Soto
2029-32: Kurtz. Caminero and Anthony are right behind him.

Jon L.Member since 2016
6 months ago

Didn’t get to this article until Friday. Based on the title, I fully expected this to be an investigation of aging curves and a projection of when Judge would decline. I’d still be interested in reading that article too, if someone wants to write it.