How Much Do the Angels Benefit When Ohtani Hits When He Pitches?

There might be no player in baseball who is more fun to watch or more talented than Shohei Ohtani. On Tuesday, he beat out what looked like a routine groundball to shortstop for an infield single, with a sprint speed of 29.5 feet per second. Later that game, he drilled a ball 431 feet for a solo home run — one that left his bat at 108.9 mph, already his 11th batted ball of 105 mph or more this season. That’s all business as usual for the two-way star, even as he recovers from a blister that has kept him from making a start as a pitcher since April 4.

That April 4 outing, though, was truly one-of-a-kind. Ohtani put on a show, starting the game and hitting in the No. 2 hole, becoming just the third pitcher to hit for himself in a game with the DH spot available. Though the feat was unique, Ohtani’s appearance in the lineup as a pitcher was not a surprise. He and the Angels thoroughly discussed the strategy in spring training, and he pitched and hit leadoff in a game on March 21. While it was only spring training, Joe Maddon whipped up the coolest lineup card I have ever seen:

The Angels have underscored a new emphasis on maximum Ohtani usage. When he first broke into the majors in 2018, he was kept out of the lineup on days before and after his pitching appearances. But already this season, Ohtani has both hit on the day before he pitched, serving as the DH on April 3, and on the day of.

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“If you had to shut him down [at the plate] for three games — the day before [his start], the day of, and the day after — woof, that’s a bad thought,” Maddon told Jack Harris of the Los Angeles Times during spring training. “So I think it’s important that we experiment right now.”

Getting your best players in the game more often will benefit your team in the long-run. This does not come without its risks, and that goes for all players, not just ones who pitch and hit. But for Ohtani, health has always (rightly) been a top priority, as the Angels have tried to juggle both parts of his game. This season, though, they want him to “just play baseball,” Maddon told reporters, and part of that is hitting while pitching, something he did frequently when he played in Japan.

Getting Ohtani’s bat in the lineup more often will undeniably help the Angels; he has a career .360 wOBA and 128 wRC+ as a hitter. But how much do they benefit from having him in the lineup when he pitches? A firm answer is hard to provide. We don’t know how much his hitting will deviate from its true-talent level on days he pitches, and we also can only guess how many plate appearances this will be impacting. But what we can do is analyze a ballpark estimate — a theoretical run-value figure for the Angels’ team-wide gain.

First, we must consider who Ohtani is replacing in the lineup. The Angels are forfeiting their designated hitter, so a quick glance over at our Angels Depth Chart page provides the answer. The position group is decent overall, but a lot of that is because of Ohtani, and we need to factor him out. This is what the Angels’ DH situation looks like without him:

Angels’ DH Situation Without Ohtani
Name PA AVG OBP SLG wOBA
Albert Pujols 151 .234 .286 .395 .287
José Rojas 20 .227 .279 .389 .282
Justin Upton 13 .227 .314 .436 .318
Mike Trout 7 .285 .427 .598 .417
Total 191 .235 .292 .405 .293

Effectively, Ohtani is replacing Pujols in the lineup, since Pujols makes up roughly 80% of the overall DH-without-Ohtani numbers. But for accuracy, I’ll use that ugly .235/.292/.405 line as the “hitter” that Ohtani will be replacing.

Next, we need to consider how often this situation will arise. The Angels’ preseason plan was to start Ohtani once every six games, which would work out to 27 starts over a full season. It’s unclear whether he will be able to get close to that threshold, but considering he has already missed time on the hill due to his blister, I’ll assume that he makes 20 starts this season, hits in the No. 2 slot in all of them, and has zero downtick in his hitting performance relative to his Depth Charts projections. If those assumptions don’t hold — if Ohtani makes a different number of starts, does not hit in all of them, or does face a downturn in hitting — these numbers will change. But 20 is a nice round number that we can use to gather a simple picture of what this might look like.

In this scenario, Ohtani hits in the No. 2 hole, so this does not represent a one-for-one replacement of the non-Ohtani DH; no team would put a .235/.292/.405 hitter that high up in the lineup. (As an aside, it was sad to see Pujols start a game hitting seventh for the first time since his rookie year.) For this, we can consider three alternate scenarios: one where the DH would normally hit fifth, sixth, and seventh. This season, batters in the second spot have had 7% more plate appearances than those at No. 5, 10% more than those at No. 6, and 13% more than those at No. 7.

Lastly, Ohtani will not hit for the entire game. Once he is removed as a pitcher, the Angels will have to play NL baseball and use a combination of pinch-hitters and other substitutions to account for that spot in the order. Fittingly, on April 4, the first non-Ohtani player to hit in that spot was Pujols, who pinch-hit in the sixth.

This may be a bit generous, but I’ll assume that Ohtani takes two-thirds of the plate appearances at the No. 2 hole in these games, emphasizing one important point: The Angels won’t ever have to pinch hit for him like National League squads do. If it’s the bottom of the fifth and they don’t plan on letting him pitch the top of the sixth, they’ll still let him hit. Combined with the fact that he went at least five innings in seven of his 10 starts in 2018, that makes me comfortable using a two-thirds Ohtani, one-third non-Ohtani split for these plate appearances. This blend is shown in the “Ohtani Pitch+Hit” row of the following table; his stats are based off of our Depth Charts projections:

Run Values for The 20-Game Scenarios
Scenario PA AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRAA
Ohtani Pitch+Hit 91 .254 .322 .469 .331 1.458
DH in 5th Spot 85 .235 .292 .405 .293 -1.202
DH in 6th Spot 83 .235 .292 .405 .293 -1.174
DH in 7th Spot 80 .235 .292 .405 .293 -1.131

The Angels benefit by having Ohtani on both sides, but over the course of the season, this might not amount to much more than 2.5 runs, or roughly one-quarter of a win, in terms of raw offensive value. There is additional value to be had if, instead of hitting at a .349 wOBA level this season, Ohtani posts something closer to or above his career mark. For fun, let’s say he sustains his current .464 wOBA. The Angels might expect closer to an eight-run benefit. Better yet, if we project Ohtani at his .464 wOBA and Pujols at his current .234 wOBA, then the Angels would generate an entire additional win.

There are a ton of assumptions baked into theoretical analysis like this, and there are also plenty of shortfalls. We’re excluding baserunning value, an area where Ohtani is also better than Pujols. We’re excluding fatigue, something that is hard to measure or value but could play a big role. And we’re excluding context: If Ohtani pitches and hits well in an important late-season game against the Astros, for example, the move would be totally worth it, even if the season-long, context-neutral value dictates that this doesn’t move the needle much.

And we’re excluding the sheer fun of this. Baseball is a game, after all, and I know that I would thoroughly enjoy 19 more nights just like April 4. While the Angels might not get a significant advantage from Ohtani pitching and hitting in the same game, the fanfare it generates is practically immeasurable.





Devan Fink is a Contributor at FanGraphs. You can follow him on Twitter @DevanFink.

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AnonMember since 2020
5 years ago

That video of him beating out a routine grounder. . . .wow, unbelievable. He really is a unicorn. There really has never been a player like him.

Lanidrac
5 years ago
Reply to  Anon

He wasn’t as fast on the bases (yet still had 123 career SB), but what about, oh you know, Babe Ruth? He was even a 2-way player from 1917-19.

Shirtless George Brett
5 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

Ohtani would make Ruth look like a beer league player.

BenZobrist4MVP
5 years ago

When the Angels forgo the DH in an AL park and have Ohtani bat, does his WAR get computed with the DH penalty (this would make sense because the Angels are choosing not to use the DH) or does he get the pitcher hitter value bonus? (this would also make sense, since he is in fact batting as the pitcher)

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  BenZobrist4MVP

Who cares!!!!!!! Does it make any difference? Just more fodder for why the game is played on the field, not by computers.

letmegocheck
5 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

Why track anything just play the game right? Who needs batting average or ERA or anything

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  letmegocheck

It is interesting that the two statistics you mention are now considered hopelessly outdated by the SABR community. At least use OPS which is a true stat, or at least as close as anything in baseball can be, not something subjective like wRC or FIP or maybe DRS, possibly OAA, or DRA- or whatever the latest fad is. Will anybody really need to see what Ohtani’s fWAR or bWAR or WARP is to determine whether he has succeeded and to what degree? As long as systems keep spitting out garbage that says things like Rick Porcello was a better pitcher during the 2020 season than Gerrit Cole I will choose to question the legitimacy of most of them. I think the industry agrees with me because if it was just luck that led to Porcello’s poor record then some smart team would have jumped on him but, try as I might, I don’t see Rick Porcello on a major league roster.

Shirtless George Brett
5 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

Imagine being a paying member of fangraphs who writes off all advanced statistics because he doesn’t understand small sample sizes lol.

Porcello pitched 60 innings in 2020. Cole pitched 70. What the are you even doing here?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

I would like to know this, simply so I know how to interpret it.

Lanidrac
5 years ago
Reply to  BenZobrist4MVP

This is just further proof that the DH defensive penalty in WAR should be discarded in the first place. It’s not like a replacement DH can generate any better defensive value than the first guy, after all.

NATS FanMember since 2018
5 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

I absolutely agree. You don’t penalize a great cook for not delivering food. If a guy does not have to field then just compare him to all other DHs. Edgar Martinez was an average defensive 3rd basemen for his career but because his bat was so valuable and he was fragile when he fielded he DH’d. His War loses two full wins a season for his career just for that. Its not fair!

Jon L.Member since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

He was immensely less valuable to his team because he couldn’t play the field. They had to find someone else to play third, rather than just play the best hitter available.

There’s more of an argument to make for someone who plays DH because his team has other great options in the field rather than someone who’s unable to play the field due to health concerns.

hombremomento
5 years ago

If he just hit, he would be a top-10 DH. If he just pitched, he’d be a top-15 pitcher. But yet, he does both and at very high levels

ScottyB
5 years ago
Reply to  hombremomento

Or, he keeps getting injured while pitching, so he adds no value either way.

I know it is less fun, but OF/1B/DH Ohtani is probably his best use.

fanofthemanMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  ScottyB

It seems like you could at least throw a bit of RP in there somewhere, too. Let him pitch as a fireman type for two-three innings a week if you go with that plan

The Stranger
5 years ago
Reply to  fanoftheman

The challenge of RP Ohtani is getting him warmed up as a pitcher while he’s busy hitting/fielding, I think. Otherwise, I think everyday player and high-leverage reliever would be a great way to use him.

tdouglas
5 years ago
Reply to  The Stranger

You could warm him up in the clubhouse. But yeah, that would definitely be hard to pull off.

Shirtless George Brett
5 years ago
Reply to  hombremomento

If he just hit he would probably be the best RF in the AL.

hombremomento
5 years ago

Yeah I’ve noticed if he had good hands he would be a genuine Gold Glove candidate- He has good reflexes and a ridiculously strong arm

NATS FanMember since 2018
5 years ago
Reply to  hombremomento

He is fast and athletic enough that he could play competently at several positions on the field. If they did not worry about injury and fatigue, he would. His bat plays at RF, LF, and first base. All spots he would likely be an all star.

eastmanMember since 2022
5 years ago

It’s fun to think about how Ohtani’s skill reverses the cost/benefit analysis that managers typically face regarding pitcher hitting. Instead of debating whether it is worth one a subpar at bat to get the starter back out on the mound, I can imagine a manager being tempted to let Ohtani try for just ooonnneee more out to get him an extra at bat if he’s due up the following inning.

thisisfine
5 years ago

Great article and loved the final paragraph! Baseball is supposed to be fun

Antonio BananasMember since 2016
5 years ago

Why does he have to be a SP. Why not just use him as a MIRP? A much more scheduled MIRP, but maybe a 50 pitch cap. Or maybe even the set up (or if we get really crazy with the cheese whiz, a CP).

I don’t know the logistics, trotting him to the pen after an AB to warm up, etc

NATS FanMember since 2018
5 years ago

The Angels need him to start

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
5 years ago

I am more than a little fed up with all the naysayers who are screaming that the Angels are doing something stupid by using Ohtani the way they are, as much as they are, and intend to continue to do so. The Angels haven’t exactly filled the dance card for post-season play since 2014 even with the best player in the game and now they have a player, the likes of which no one alive has ever seen, who might be able to lead them there. Nobody knows yet if he is a better offensive player or pitcher, but the same nattering nabobs of negativism are telling the Angels to choose now. Lest anyone forget, when this amazing player first came to our shores, he was seen as a better pitching prospect and I recall, quite well, as he struggled to hit that first spring training how the same naysayers were already screaming to end the experiment then and there, before it really began. CBS Sports recently asked its cast of baseball “writers” which path Ohtani should choose. Each of them paid the two-way experiment a little lip service and “wished” it would work but every one of them strongly hinted that they didn’t see it happening. This season is still young but if what he has done at the plate continues and he can take his regular turn and K 11/9, we will be unable to comprehend what we are seeing. I do not know what his regimen is between pitching assignments but walking up to the plate with a bat in his hands 4 or 5 times a day does not seem too taxing, and trotting around the bases after another 450′ shot lands in the upper deck is something I could do, the trotting not the hitting, and I am 79. A young man in good health has excellent recuperative ability and can hit one day and pitch the next. How does anyone know if he could DH the day after he pitches until he does? This isn’t some guy who couldn’t hit if the pitch and location were announced to the crowd. This is a man who gives every indication that he is an elite power hitter., and did I mention that he runs like an impala. Short of the Red Sox having the bases loaded with Devers coming to the plate, I monitor the Angels game and switch the big screen to it when Ohtani comes up. As far as the article goes, the difference between Ohtani at the plate and anything else they have to offer is so stark that the cost of losing the DH when he leaves is negligible.

ajb3313
5 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

It seems negligent to me to NOT use him the way the Angels are, given the unicorn-ness of his skillset.

TapeyBeerconeMember since 2016
5 years ago

All I can think when I read this article is Damn the DH rule!

carterMember since 2020
5 years ago

Rumor has it his next start he will move to the OF after he leaves the mound.

Shirtless George Brett
5 years ago
Reply to  carter

As much as I would love to see this, it seems like an insane idea. Dude is going to blast out 90+ pitches then go run around in the OF and throw even more?

I dont think people understand how gassed a pitcher is when he leaves the game. Making him run around the OF for another 3+ innings is cruel.

Lanidrac
5 years ago

With Fowler out for the season, Pujols is getting a lot more time at 1B, meaning Ohtani is now replacing even worse DH options when he hits while pitching.

Erick
5 years ago

In high school they let you use the DH to replace any player. Then you could let Ohtani bat and plug in someone like Lagares in the OF and DH for him instead.

I know it would really only benefit the Angels right now but I don’t see why the DH only replaces the pitcher.

AngelsLakersFan
5 years ago
Reply to  Erick

It also sucks that the Angels can’t replace pitcher Ohtani with a DH when he exists the game. All of these rules devalue the potential utility of Ohtani’s two-way talent.