How to Rationalize an Eric Hosmer Mega-Contract
In the middle of last July, rumors started to spread that, come free agency, Eric Hosmer could seek a 10-year deal. Then, in the second half of the season, Hosmer batted .225, with a 76 wRC+. Now, in a new article from Ken Rosenthal, it’s expressed the Royals believe Eric Hosmer could seek a 10-year deal.
Hosmer is represented by Scott Boras, and you can see here how Boras effortlessly presupposes Hosmer’s significance:
“We all know that Hos is a franchise player, a world champion. He’s done all this at a very young age,” Boras said.
World champion? Sure, that happened. Very young age? Hosmer is still only 27 years old. But, there’s that first thing. We don’t all know that Hosmer is a franchise player. The majority of people would actually disagree with that notion. This is a phenomenally easy idea to argue against.
It’s certainly true that Hosmer is a recognizable player. He’s part of what’s considered the Royals’ core, in terms of both performance and leadership. The Royals like Hosmer plenty, but there’s no getting around the statistics. Here’s an excerpt from the leaderboards covering the last three seasons. I calculated everyone’s WAR per 600 plate appearances, and here’s Hosmer, with the two names above and the two names below:
- Michael Taylor, 1.1 WAR/600
- Robbie Grossman, 1.0
- Eric Hosmer, 1.0
- Caleb Joseph, 1.0
- Mitch Moreland, 1.0
Similarly, I calculated WAR/600 for all the 2017 projections. Because Hosmer’s still young, right? The same sort of excerpt:
- Chris Carter, 1.3 projected WAR/600
- Adam Duvall, 1.3
- Eric Hosmer, 1.3
- Mike Napoli, 1.3
- Alex Dickerson, 1.3
Hosmer has played six full seasons. In just two of them has he posted a total WAR north of 1.0. In three of them, he’s been replacement-level or worse. Over the past three seasons, Hosmer has a combined WAR of 3.2. Before he signed his big contract, Prince Fielder had a three-year WAR of 13.3. Joey Votto had a three-year WAR of 18.1. Adrian Gonzalez had a three-year WAR of 16.1. Chris Davis, 13.4. Mark Teixeira, 14.8. Even Ryan Howard was at 7.1. Hosmer, statistically, does not measure up. His age is the best thing he has going for him.
So it’s easy to say two related things: Players and agents can seek whatever they want, but Hosmer doesn’t deserve a giant contract. There, we’re finished! But we’re not finished. See, I think this is interesting. This isn’t just a player and a team not yet having agreed to multi-year terms. This isn’t the Royals expecting Hosmer to seek, say, six or seven years. Reports say they’re expecting 10. Hosmer’s agent referred to him as a franchise player. His most recent WAR was literally below zero. This screams for further investigation. How could we make sense of Hosmer and Boras staking out such a position, if we are to assume they’re not stupid?
Okay, let’s start with defense. Hosmer is a first baseman, and he isn’t about to move up the defensive spectrum or anything. Relative to a middle infielder, Hosmer is not defensively valuable. But here there has been disagreement. Hosmer has been below-average, according to both DRS and UZR. At the same time, from 2013 – 2015, he won three consecutive Gold Gloves. And over the past three years, by the Fan Scouting Report, Hosmer rates as one of the better defensive first basemen in baseball. His three-year DRS is -2. His three-year UZR is -8. His three-year FSR is +13. Fans think he’s about as good as, say, Anthony Rizzo. Almost always, the numbers are more dependable than subjective perception. I don’t know where this truth actually lies. But I can concede that Hosmer could well be better than his statistical record. I’m not willing to take a bullet for the metrics.
Switching now to offense, there is some reason to believe Hosmer has been more productive when you put his performance in context. His three-year wRC+ ranks 101st out of 235 players. His three-year WPA/LI ranks 81st. However, his three-year WPA ranks 46th, because his Clutch score ranks 18th. A less complicated way to put this: Eric Hosmer, to this point, has been a legitimately clutch offensive performer. Since he debuted, he ranks second among all hitters in offensive Clutch. According to Baseball-Reference, out of all active players with enough playing time, he’s been the fifth-biggest over-performer in high-leverage spots. Here are some career FanGraphs splits:
- Low leverage: 91 wRC+
- Medium leverage: 118
- High leverage: 136
In the important spots, walk rate is at a high, and strikeout rate is at a low. Power is at a high. I’m not saying this is something to definitely believe in, but it’s possible to be both skeptical and interested. Eric Hosmer, the hitter, has demonstrated excellent timing. It’s made him more valuable, so far, than his overall numbers would suggest.
And now we should talk about the upside. The talent that Hosmer hasn’t entirely tapped into. This goes along with Hosmer still being fairly young — there could be more in there than the career wRC+ of 107. If there’s one thing that’s held Hosmer back at the plate, it’s that he’s hit too many balls on the ground. His career grounder rate is 53%. Last season he set a new career high, while achieving the same average launch angle as Adam Eaton and Ben Revere. You don’t have to squint too hard to recognize the unflattering Billy Butler comp.
Over the last three years, however, when Hosmer has hit the ball in the air, his wRC+ ranks in the 77th percentile. He’s right there with Hanley Ramirez, Yoenis Cespedes, and Mark Trumbo. When going up the middle or the other way, Hosmer’s wRC+ ranks in the 87th percentile, and he’s in the 90th if you look at the opposite field alone. Hosmer has shown that he has hitting ability and power to all fields. He just hasn’t been consistent about it. But there should be no denying the strength.
On air balls, in 2015, Hosmer ranked in the 78th percentile in average exit velocity. By the same measure, in 2016, he ranked in the 91st percentile. Right above him: Edwin Encarnacion. Right below him: Trumbo. Hosmer has been too much of a ground-ball hitter to be a consistent power hitter, but we’ve seen that change with other players before. The strength and bat speed are there. Whether it’s an issue of swing mechanics or timing, Hosmer so far has topped too many baseballs, but it’s not hard to imagine him blossoming.
I’ve said hardly anything about Hosmer’s alleged leadership skills. Can’t address ’em, can’t quantify ’em, can’t vouch for ’em. Based on my very limited understanding, Hosmer’s clubhouse presence is more good than bad, so that would provide him a small value bonus. It’s not something that would convince a team to spend way overboard to land this one specific player, especially because every clubhouse is different, but Hosmer doesn’t seem to be a bad dude. He’s supportive and experienced and all the stuff that goes along with those traits.
Eric Hosmer, right now, is not a 10-year-contract kind of player. WAR is our best measure of value, and it’s no fan of Hosmer’s. Teams know that, and their own systems would mostly agree. At the same time, you can see how Hosmer could be close to being one of those cornerstones. He could definitely be a better defender than he’s given statistical credit for. It’s hard to ignore the offensive timing he’s had. And the offensive upside is also a selling point, even if Hosmer has been hitting ground balls for six years. There’s more power in there, and some hitters have managed to set theirs free. It could be a matter of making one tweak.
No team in baseball would give Hosmer a mega-contract today, even if they believe him to be a little underrated. What Boras might be taking for granted, publicly, is that Hosmer can consistently be his best self. Deep down, Boras knows there’s work to be done, but there is a legitimate chance here. Eric Hosmer’s best self is a star first baseman. Several months from now, that mega-contract idea might not seem so far-fetched.
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.
No creo que Eric Hosmer sea un jugador para un mega contrato, pero es razonable que alguien le pague un promedio de $16 millones.
Pienso que $130 millones por 8 años es razonable, pensando en lo que se ha convertido la agencia libre.
Y no creo que actualmente Hosmer esté entre los diez mejores 1B.
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I do not think it is a player on the Eric Hosumega contract, but it is reasonable for someone to pay an average of $ 16 million.
I think it is reasonable to think about what happened to free will for $ 13 million in 8 years.
I think that phosmor is not the current top 10 (b).”
Just Spanish to English:
I don’t believe Eric Hosmer is a mega-contract player, but it’s reasonable for someone to pay an average of $16M.
I think $130M over 8 years is reasonable, considering how free agency has changed.
And I don’t feel that Hosmer is actually in the 10 best 1B.
Knew I shouldn’t have purchased that used recalled translator at the pawn shop…
‘Actualmente’ does mean ‘currently’, not ‘actually’, except for Spanish speakers who are heavily influenced by English.
Traduces bien.
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I think the players are in the Eric contract Hosumega, but in reality that people have to pay an average of $16 million.
I think it’s reasonable to think that what happened will from $13 million for eight years.
“I think the phosmor is currently in the top 10 (b).”
8 years at $130 mil still seems like wayy too much
At AAV of $16M its not too crazy, it’s mainly the 8 year length that is long. To sign for 8 years on that AAV, at a certain point the Royals would have to actually be betting on a breakout, at which point that deal becomes significantly under-market. I think that, while Hosmer hasn’t been that great, I would think there aren’t many players around that are less likely to get worse. In other words, I would be more confident in his floor than in a lot of other available free agent 1B. And, good fly ball exit velo and a high GB% is a pretty good recipe for an impending breakout, as we have seen from other players.
Parce, Yo desacuerdo. Hosmer es un bum. Una de las mejores cosas en este website es como todos estamos de acuerdo Hosmer es un bum.
Yo desacuerdo?? Que espanol es ese?
I can understand spanish, but to speak it I certainly do not put words together in the right order
“Pienso que $130 millones por 8 años es razonable, pensando en lo que se ha convertido la agencia libre.”
En serio? Vimos este offseason pasado que los equipos no vale 1Bs mucho.
Hombre, yo puedo ayudarte con tu español.
Me gusta cómo lees este artículo en inglés pero escribe en español todavía.
Latinoamérica necesita más contenido sabermétrico en español.
Gracias por preocuparte, soy de República Dominicana. Aquí no hay páginas tan avanzadas como esta, y en mi caso tengo que leer Fangraphs porque me interesa la sabermetría.
Me expreso mejor en español, aunque muchos aquí no entienda y tengan que usar el traductor.
A 10 year Hosmer contract would look dumber than the Shelby Miller trade the minute it was signed. And that’s the best look that contract would get throughout the duration of the 10 years.
I’d sign him to a 10year, $40m deal. $40m being the total, of course.
Still too rich. Carter got $3.5 million no need to go 12x that for a player who is at best the same.
For a single year. And Carter is 3 years older. And Hosmer has had 3.4 and 3.2 win seasons in the last 4 years, whereas Carter peaked at 2.0. $4 mil a year to lock up Hosmer for 10 years would be super weird, but also a really fantastic contract.
Hosmer has also had one replacement level season and two below replacement level seasons surrounding his two 3 win seasons. Carter, while having a lower ceiling, has not been below replacement level since he became a regular.
He is not “at best the same,” that is ridiculous. He’s younger, and at times has actually been very good. $40 million over 3 years would not be bad. That is essentially paying for a slightly below average player. Getting the extra 7 years, and whatever amount of upside that is possible, not to mention the cost shifting that probably puts the real value of this deal closer to $30 million, just makes this a deal every team in baseball would take. Hosmer could average 1.2 WAR per season over the next 3 years, get cut, and that would basically be market rates.
Carter: 2645 PA, 112 wRC+, -7.1 UZR/150
Hosmer: 3722 PA, 107 wRC+, -4.7 UZR/150
With Carter, you get dingers. With Hosmer, you get volatility. Sure, you could pay Hosmer $40m over 3 years, but that would be buying Hosmer to be Trumbo, who is a better defender and hitter than Hosmer.
Adding 7 extra years does cost you the opportunity to sign a better player or give playing time to developing youngsters, since he probably wouldn’t have options and he couldn’t be sent down as a free replacement player would. It’s not a deal every team in baseball would offer, and I doubt even one team would really consider something like that for one of their star bad players.
I mean, he could get 10/$80 maybe. Technically that’s a 10-year contract and by year 10, $8 million will be literally peanuts for the team.
Exactly my thoughts. I love seeing guys stay with the same team, especially a guy like Hos, who is almost the face of the team. A ten year contract doesn’t have to be for 200MM. I’d love to see this contract.
Nope. You’re forgetting that unless he ages abnormally (not impossible, but a big gamble), he’ll be retired in the next few years.
An $80 million total commitment to Hosmer, who is forecast for 1.3 WAR this year is an overpay. Let’s assume he is worth double that (a big miss by the forecasts, although that is what the fans forecast is for him), and then declines normally:
2017 – 2.6 WAR
2018 – 2.1
2019 – 1.6
2020 – 1.1
2021 – 0.6
2022 – 0.1
2023 – RETIRED
At $8M per win, with a 5% inflation rate, here’s how much that’s worth:
2017 – $20.8 M
2018 – $17.6
2019 – $14.1
2020 – $10.2
2021 – $5.8
2022 – $1.0
2023-2026 – $0
TOTAL – $69.6 M
So to sum up, if you assume that the forecasts are wrong by a factor of 50%, an $80 M is still an overpay by $10 M, although you’ll only be paying him $68 M for those seasons, as you’ll be allocating $12 M to him to get his pension started after he retires.
I suppose if you have a high enough discount rate on your cash, or back-load the contract enough (see: the Bobby Bonilla contract), AND you believe that the forecasts are way low, you could justify paying him that kind of money for 10 years.
More likely, though, you’ll see him sign a contract for $40/3 or so.
You have his decline beginning with his age 28 season. Get rid of that, slow the initial decline (age 29-30), which is normal, and these numbers are way different.
2018 (age 28): 2.6
2019: 2.2
2020: 1.8
2021: 1.3
2022: 0.8
2023: 0.3
Now, using 2.6 as the starting point? I’m not sure about that…
I do agree that something like $40/3 is most likely, with something like $90/5 if he has a good 2017 being a reasonable upper limit.
It just seems really…weird to discuss a ten-year mega deal for a guy who collectively for his career has been equivalent to Chris Heisey, Brandon Guyer, and Trevor Plouffe.
A 10-year Homer contract would look good if it was $7MM.
Scott Boras also said that Matt Weiters is basically the same as Carlton Fisk.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/bal-scott-boras-matt-wieters-similar-to-carlton-fisk-at-age-30-helped-develop-o-s-pitchers-20170209-story.html
Well, maybe he meant 2017 Fisk…
I love how we all have collectively agreed to dislike Eric Hosmer for being a mean sob. The fact that he has been a below average regular who think he deserves a “mega-contract” is just an added bonus.
Can you elaborate on the mean sob thing? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times that he blew up on Eno, but I can’t actually find that and am not familiar with other instances.
If I recall correctly, he was rude to Eno Sarris when Sarris mistook him for Mike Moustakas. I’m sure you can find the fg article Sarris wrote reflecting on the incident if you google it. Seems self righteous to extrapolate who a person is from one instance from 3+ years ago.
Edit: link http://www.hardballtimes.com/learning-the-language-of-the-clubhouse/
Funny how Hosmer was rude because Eno mistook him for Moose, yet he expects a big payday for mistaking himself for Anthony Rizzo.
By reading the headline I thought Hosmer just signed a 10 years contract.
I read the whole article and I still have trouble with this, “Several months from now, that mega-contract idea might not seem so far-fetched”.
Even with the points made here, I do still find it incredibly far fetched. I appreciate the effort for the article, but I just find it unconvincing. Even if Hosmer has a great year and puts up something like 5 fwar, would teams really be willing to buy into that vs. what he has shown for these 6 years as his true talent level? Also is there any examples where a front office puts any sort of significant stock into a hitter being “clutch”?
That said, “mega-contract” is probably a pretty subjective term, so there could be a pretty decent amount of room for disagreement on what that even constitutes for Hosmer, but I still find the idea of him getting anything that I’d consider as a “mega-contract” to be incredibly far fetched regardless of what happens this year.
See Upton, Melvin. Then again, he was actually more valuable than Hosmer.
“I read the whole article”
bc you usually just skip to trolling people in the comments section.
(*rattles zipper*)
LOL, you can expect this A LOT btw….
I think Hosmer only has value as a franchise player to the Royals, given the history there and the love the city has for him. That’s reason enough for the Royals to over pay him, but I’m really not convinced any other teams would get much more than a below average offensive first baseman and a Kansas City home town star who’s name has mostly failed to pick up traction around the rest of the country. He honestly is not worth 10 years at most 10 year contract prices.
Plus as a Bay Area fan, I really enjoy watching Kansas City employ mediocre to middling offenses.
My favorite part of all of this, is that Boras knows how to value players like, at all. He values them in terms of dollars sure, but he knows zero about a players REAL value to MLB teams.
I think he knows, it is just his job to convince some GM somewhere to overvalue that player. So he has gotten very good at cherry-picking stats that compare favorably with some great player while ignoring everything else.
Co-sign this. The man is not there to provide neutral analysis.
He definitely knows how to hype up mediocre players, but I would also think that MLB teams of the present are smart enough not to fall for such elementary tactics.
He only needs a 3% success rate.
I feel like something around 5/80m would be a feather in Boras’ cap. Even that requires the team to pay for upside that hasn’t yet been reached. 10 years has to be pure puffery, although Boras has a history of making that work surprisingly often.
I think that is at least close to the upper range, assuming he has a pretty good season this year. I think a team will talk itself into believing in the upside, and a 5 year deal does not include the heavy decline years (though how far can Hosmer decline and still be roster-able?)
I’ve come to believe that Scott Boras is the only sports agent that exists. His name is hyphenated to his clients in every sports article/discussion. Are the other players representing themselves?
The Royals should hire Levine to respond for them.
I understand the temptation to seek some basis in truth for the Boras comment. But some statements are exactly as ludicrous as they sound. And I think seeing Boras play the desperate “begging the question” card so early on — “We all know that Hos is a franchise player” — is a sign of how few cards he’s holding right now.
Boras knows it as well. Hosmer is most likely to have the highest value to KC, but they don’t have the budget for what Boras dreams about. I think KC likely looks at Boras’ demand as a stroke of good fortune. They have better FA’s coming up that are going to need some attention. If they intend to let Hosmer go, they can take Boras at his word.
I suppose the only comment one could make is that it would take a great deal of rationalizing to justify an Eric Hosmer Mega-Contract.
Next year Hosmer will have as many 10 year MLB contracts as I will.
Rationalizing an Eric Hosmer Mega-Contract …
Step 1. Call your guy.
Step 2. Hit the pipe.
Step 3. Repeat step 2.
Boras is a gem. Bringing us ideas like Hosmer deserves a 10 year contract and Matt Wieters is misjudged by pitch framing numbers because of some bizarre argument about his pitchers throwing harder and him catching them out of the zone or some nonsense. The greatest BS artist in America.
I mean, I can think of another current great BS artist in America…
srsly, knock it off. get this junk out of here. not the place for it.
The best thing going for Hosmer is his popularity. Anecdotally, he’s THE fan favorite – dude gets a bigger response than Moustakas and Perez and Cain and Gordon and Escobar, even though they’re demonstrably better players.
KC SHOULD let him walk and be done with it. But they’ll alienate a chunk of their newly acquired/excited about baseball again fans if they do. I hope they have the guts for it (since I live close to KC and enjoy the stadium and fans and wish them nothing but the best), but I’m afraid even if it isn’t 10 years, they’ll give him some insane ‘face of the franchise to appease our fans’ contract that will cripple them for years.
A terrible defensive 1B with 5.6 WAR over his first six seasons?!?! Sign me up!
So are the Angels signing any free agents next year? If so, he’s got a shot.
Total FA expenditures for the Angels over the past 3 off-seasons.
2014 – 9 contract years for $18M total
2015 – 6 contract years for $11M total
2016 – 6 contract years for $27M total
Put another way, the Angels have spent less in FA over the past 3 years than the Giants just paid for the 3rd best closer this off-season.
I’m assuming the comment was a joke but I’m constantly surprised by how many people have forgotten how tight the club has become of late (I fully acknowledge that they have become tight primarily due to awful decisions related to Pujols and Hamilton).
So, with Boras as his agent, can we rule out the possibility of Hosmer getting a 10-year deal with WAS? With a large portion of the money deferred over 40 years of course.
Remember when Bautista and Donaldson were terrible players, and then a coach said “swing with an uppercut and always try to elevate” even though that goes against conventional wisdom (although physics proved that it’s sound advice), and then they both blossomed into power hitting stars? If Hosmer were to make the same change, he could be legit.
All of this is to say that the Jays would be better off with 1 WAR Hosmer who can perhaps make the Donaldson adjustment and be a star over the 1 WAR Kendrys Morales who has no upside and cost $33mil.
Great point, echoing some of the points Jeff made on Hosmer’s upside.
If he lays an egg this season, he might end up being a steal on a pillow contract if he can elevate the ball more often.
Hosmer isn’t signing for something as small as the Morales contract, and I don’t think you’re being entirely fair regarding swing coaching. Sluggers have long been advised to get the ball in the air, it’s the smaller guys who were cautioned against it, sometimes to their detriment. I agree with you that Hosmer would benefit from a swing adjustment that created a higher launch angle, but we celebrate examples like J.D. Martinez precisely because that’s a difficult thing to pull off. How long have people been begging for Christian Yelich to do that, and while he has improved, he’s still only hitting fly-balls 20% of the time.
And even if Hosmer could simply hit more fly-balls, that alone isn’t going to make him an elite hitter given that his average exit velocity is vastly higher on ground balls and line drives than on fly balls. According to this FanGraphs article, Hosmer’s average exit velocity on fly-balls last season was just 90.7mph. If you look at his spray charts, what stands out is that he very rarely pulls the ball in the air. His pull percentage overall ranks among the worst for all first basemen, and the vast majority of those pulled balls in play are grounders (where pulling the ball is actually a bad thing). So he not only needs to create more elevation but also to get around on pitches more often. Basically you’re talking about a complete reconstruction of his swing, and it doesn’t sound like the player has any interest in doing that.
“Here are some career FanGraphs splits:
Low leverage: 91 wRC+
Medium leverage: 118
High leverage: 136”
Although those splits sound nice, those are the kind of splits that would scare me into signing someone to a long term deal. Why would a player’s production be lower when excitement seems low? Although the argument can be made that some people can dial it up when the game is on the line, I would expect the opposite to be the more likely case with players with such big leverage splits: that some players don’t have that same adrenaline and/or focus when certain points of the game aren’t as exciting.
What might that indicate to a GM who would have to think of the type of production to expect once he gets a long term deal and no longer has to worry about the effect of his production, in either big or small situations, on future earnings.
In regards to his defense, gold gloves still don’t mean that much. Usually good defenders have one of the key metrics showing something positive, but in his case they all are showing up as slightly below average and we have 6 years of data to go with. Age 27 tends to be the peak for defensive value so I would estimate that this key part of his value will likely go down over the next few years. I’d imagine that barring a major swing change that greatly increases his offensive value he will be a replacement level player over the next 10 years.
With the new market valuations of one-dimensional first basemen it would be safer and cheaper for KC to simply sign a new 1B every year or two for cheap than to risk a long-term deal on Hosmer.
If we believe in Hosmer being clutch (color me skeptical) and able to perform best when the stakes are highest should he be a guy we expect a walk year uptick for?
Might be fun to revisit at the end of the year.
HOT TAKE?
Eric Homer’s offensive potential = Jason Heyward’s offensive potential
said another way….. Don’t give this guy big money… But I think he will put up a good 2017