Angry David Hernandez Might Have a Point

It’s difficult, as a human person, not to arrive at the conclusion that the world is riddled with injustice. Epictetus felt it keenly. Marcus Aurelius felt it keenly. Owing to the infancy of medical science at the time, probably a lot of other ancients felt it keenly, as well.

Among those feeling it keenly in the year 2018, however, seems to be Cincinnati reliever David Hernandez. On Thursday, the winners of the Silver Slugger Award were announced. Hernandez, it seems, was unimpressed by the results.

https://twitter.com/DHern_30/status/1060707951449595905

It should be noted immediately that Michael Lorenzen and Hernandez were teammates in 2018, so there’s certainly a case to be made that bias is at play here. It should also be noted that, in this case, the “people” who “vote on awards” are major-league managers and coaches. These are important points to establish.

What’s also probably important to establish is that Hernandez, whatever the weaknesses of his rhetorical style, doesn’t lack for evidence.

Top Pitchers by Batting Production
Name Team PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG wRC+ Bat
1 Michael Lorenzen Reds 34 5.9% 26.5% .290 .333 .710 173 3.0
2 Kolby Allard Braves 3 0.0% 0.0% 1.000 1.000 1.000 472 1.4
3 A.J. Cole – – – 4 0.0% 25.0% .333 .333 1.333 336 1.2
4 Vidal Nuno Rays 2 0.0% 0.0% 1.000 1.000 1.000 486 0.9
5 Kyle Gibson Twins 2 0.0% 0.0% 1.000 1.000 1.000 481 0.9
6 Dan Jennings Brewers 3 0.0% 33.3% .667 .667 1.000 358 0.9
7 Rick Porcello Red Sox 7 0.0% 42.9% .429 .429 .714 207 0.9
8 Enny Romero – – – 1 0.0% 0.0% 1.000 1.000 2.000 721 0.8
9 Randy Rosario Cubs 2 50.0% 0.0% 1.000 1.000 1.000 410 0.8
10 Brandon Woodruff Brewers 10 10.0% 10.0% .250 .333 .625 151 0.6

This is the batting-runs leaderboard for pitchers from 2018. Batting runs account for everything that occurs at the plate. Walk? That’s a way to first base. Grounder to third? That’s also included, in its way. Most of the leaders here have a figure that’s just above zero because most pitchers regress to something even worse than that that.

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Not Lorenzen, though. Over 34 plate appearances this year, he hit four homers and slashed .290/.333/.710. Overall, he recorded the top batting line of the year among pitchers with as few as 10 plate appearances:

Top Pitchers by Batting Line
Name Team PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG wRC+
1 Michael Lorenzen Reds 34 5.9% 26.5% .290 .333 .710 173
2 Brandon Woodruff Brewers 10 10.0% 10.0% .250 .333 .625 151
3 Brent Suter Brewers 32 12.5% 18.8% .192 .323 .346 87
4 Clayton Kershaw Dodgers 57 12.3% 19.3% .239 .340 .283 82
5 Hyun-Jin Ryu Dodgers 30 6.7% 43.3% .269 .321 .308 78
6 Dan Straily Marlins 43 18.6% 44.2% .161 .350 .194 74
7 Carlos Martinez Cardinals 36 0.00% 30.60% .242 .235 .394 63
8 German Marquez Rockies 65 0.0% 16.9% .300 .300 .350 60
9 Zack Greinke Diamond 71 4.2% 22.5% .234 .269 .297 51
10 Max Scherzer Nationals 78 1.3% 17.9% .243 .274 .271 47

The actual winner of the Silver Slugger, blameless German Marquez, did reach the .300 threshold, but he also recorded just a single extra-bast hit — a homer off a position player pitching — this season. Lorenzen, on the other hand, hit a double and four homers in roughly half the plate appearances.

Homers like this one, after a weird bunt thing:

There are certainly moments when one is wrong to feel aggrieved. For right-hander David Hernandez, however, this isn’t one of them. His teammate Michael Lorenzen both (a) probably deserved but also (b) didn’t win the Silver Slugger Award for pitchers. An injustice has probably occurred. A minor, minor, minor injustice.





Carson Cistulli has published a book of aphorisms called Spirited Ejaculations of a New Enthusiast.

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Dustin
7 years ago

“Who needs to stinkin-bunt?!”

A bunt is the only chance I’d have of reaching base in a big league game.

NATS FanMember since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  Dustin

Id have a better chance on a walk, HBP, or error,

Doug LampertMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

At no time does the bat leave my shoulder. There was an article a few years ago that estimated a 10% chance of a walk even if the pitcher absolutely positively knows you aren’t going to swing. I’ll take my chances on that 10%.

Thecul
7 years ago
Reply to  Doug Lampert

You should show that article to Dee Gordon.

Tulos_Heavy_Legs
7 years ago
Reply to  Doug Lampert
Stovokor
7 years ago

Awards and the HoF (which also incorporate awards to some extent) will always be dubious when they are voted upon largely by idiots (managers, coaches, sportswriters).

Managers don’t actually do much. Their primary purpose is to stay out of the way and avoid doing dumb things like bunting. Smart teams are realizing they’re basically fungible, and look for guys who will do as they’re told by the front office.

ShauncoreMember since 2019
7 years ago
Reply to  Stovokor

Found David Hernandez’s FanGraphs account

Jon
7 years ago
Reply to  Stovokor

Weird that so many of these “smart teams” pay their managers several million dollars per year then, no?

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  Jon

Mike Scioscia was the highest paid manager in the league, last season.

Alex Cora was the lowest.

But please, do go on.

david k
7 years ago
Reply to  Stovokor

While I wouldn’t go so far as to say managers, coaches, and sportswriters are idiots, many of them do not follow players on other teams as closely to be able to make comparisons with other players. Managers and coaches who have played against particular players know their general strengths and weaknesses to know how to pitch/defend against them, but not necessarily be able to rank their stats against those of others.

But if you are going to vote on these kinds of awards, they should at least consult some online list of statistical leaders, which isn’t very difficult to find, so I might call them more “lazy” than “idiots”.

Shirtless George Brett
7 years ago
Reply to  david k

I wouldn’t even call them lazy. I would say they just have much much much more important things to do with their time than perform a deep statistical dive to accurately assess who was the best hitter among people who don’t hit.

BipMember since 2016
7 years ago

Damn Carson I just went from 0 to angry in less time then it took that Lorenzan bomb to leave the park, why you gotta do that

Italian grandma voice: Voters, why you so dumb?

Dr. DaveMember since 2016
7 years ago

So, is there an explanation for the inexplicable? This one seems like such a no-brainer…

tung_twista
7 years ago
Reply to  Dr. Dave

One argument against Lorenzen is that 34 PA is light even for pitchers.
I doubt there were SS with that few PAs.
I can imagine some people having a 40PA filter when looking at batting stats for pitchers.

Daevric
7 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

On the other hand you’d think JD Martinez would have been under some arbitrary cutoff for OFs, too, yet here we are.

Dr. DaveMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

That’s a fair point, but…

The usual way to deal with big disparities in PA is to take the difference of the two batting lines, to see how good/bad the guy with fewer PA would have had to be to end up like the guy with more PA. In this case, that’s not possible because Lorenzen had more TB than Marquez, despite half as many PA. Which seems like it should have been a clue.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
7 years ago
Reply to  Dr. Dave

I like to think that Descartes’ evil demon is real, and uses his utmost power and cunning to screw with seemingly mundane events for no better purpose that to cause us all to question our very existence. That’s my explanation for the inexplicable.

evilsquirrel13
7 years ago
Reply to  Dr. Dave

Maybe it was held against him that he only had 19 PA as a pitcher? 14 of his PA’s (Including two of his homeruns) came as a PH, and he even singled in his only PA as a RF this year.

socalkdgMember since 2020
7 years ago

Ohtani.

steelehere
7 years ago
Reply to  socalkdg

Which position exactly should he have won for the award for?

socalkdgMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  steelehere

He did have some at bats while pitching during inter-league play. Considering that JD received two awards for DH and OF, it stands to reason they took his total stats as an OF and DH when considering the award at each position. Would we do the same then for Ohtani?

timprov
7 years ago
Reply to  socalkdg

Possibly highlighting a greater injustice: there’s no Silver Slugger award for pitchers in the American League at all.

dudleyMember since 2016
7 years ago

Hopefully Lorenzen didn’t miss out on any incentive compensation. That would be a slightly greater injustice.

Da Bear
7 years ago
Reply to  dudley

Lorenzen is a pre-arb player, so he doesn’t really have the leverage to get contract incentives like a Silver Slugger bonus.

Bartolo Colon, on the other hand…

Jason BMember since 2017
7 years ago
Reply to  Da Bear

Oven mitt. On Bartolo’s other hand is an oven mitt.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

Kershaw had a suprisingly good year at the plate. Outhit a bunch of position players on his own team. I’m impressed.

PhilMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Move Kershaw to 2B then?

Pwn Shop
7 years ago

comment deleted by my stupid self.

Baller McCheeseMember since 2016
7 years ago

That was quite an impressive bat flip by Lorenzen. Is that the best bat flip by a pitcher ever? Unless, say, someone at InstaGraphs can provide a gif-filled post showing otherwise, I’m going to assume yes.

NATS FanMember since 2018
7 years ago

Babe Ruth had a nice bat flip.

Baller McCheeseMember since 2016
7 years ago

I know that bat flip is sweet, but Marquez isn’t undeserving.

Only one other pitcher hit .300 over the past five seasons (min. 20 PA). (Bonus points: Who was it?) At min. 60 PA, Marquez had the 27th best average in all of baseball last season. I know 60 PA is a low bar, but it’s… something.

And has been noted by others, Marquez’s 65 PA triples Lorenzen’s 19 PA as a pitcher. In 19 PA, anything can be fluky. Lorenzen’s 2 HR were tied with three other pitchers, and was only one more than Marquez’s 1 HR.

I know it’s splitting hairs because the sample sizes are really small, but I’d take the one that hit 4/1/5/.300 in 65 PA over the one that hit 3/2/5/.294 in 19 PA.

SertoriusMember since 2023
7 years ago

As I’m bored at work, I created a Bat statistic that I feel is more appropriate for pitchers. It’s basically wRAA, but instead using the average pitcher wOBA. This doubles as an above replacement statistic as I doubt the replacement level wOBA for pitcher differs at all. I then used park factors which I feel should be mentioned above as Coors Field always looms. The leaders are as follows for wRAAP (weighted runs above average pitchers):

1. Lorenzen 8.0
2. Scherzer 7.0
3. Marquez 6.9
4. Kershaw 6.9
5. Greinke 6.5
6. Straily 5.3
7. Suter 4.4

As this is a counting stat it takes into account Lorenzen’s smaller sample size.

Jetsy Extrano
7 years ago
Reply to  Sertorius

Awesome work! That makes more sense than dealing with a leaderboard full of AL guys who got lucky in interleague and never had their suckiness revealed.

Does that show Lorenzen’s as-pitcher batting, or all of it?

RoyalsFan#14321Member since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  Sertorius

Are we suggesting that counting stats (weighted runs) can’t have negative values?

SertoriusMember since 2023
7 years ago

No, these are the top seven. There are several pitchers that were negative. I suppose I should shown the bottom few (Folty, Nova, and Nola at -4.2,-4.3,-5.2). I just rescaled it so we were comparing pitchers to pitchers.

Shirtless George Brett
7 years ago
Reply to  Sertorius

As this is a counting stat it takes into account Lorenzen’s smaller sample size.

Does it really though?

Dont get me wrong, I appreciate the work but one of the problem with small sample sizes is how wildly things can fluctuate. If you give Lorenzen 20 more PA’s its entirely possible, likely even, that his numbers drop significantly. If he goes 2-20 (which is his career rate BTW) in those extra PA’s his slash is .215/.254./.431 and we are not having this discussion.

TL;DR – this award is pretty dumb lol.

SertoriusMember since 2023
7 years ago

As the average pitcher wOBA this season was .132 and his career wOBA is .328, 20 PA would likely have given him another 3 or 4 runs. But even if he had .132 wOBA over those extra 20 PA he would have the same number of runs. That’s how the against average stats work and balance sample size. It’s like if someone has a 5 WAR first half of the season; even if they’re replacement level the rest of the way they will still have a 5 WAR season.

It should be noted that, yes, this award is not for anything particularly significant. But fun though!

Shirtless George Brett
7 years ago
Reply to  Sertorius

Obviously, but a player can also be below replacement level and lose WAR in the second half as well. Once he hits 5 it is not locked in as his floor for the year. If there is no negative component to this stat to account for equally terrible play I question its usefulness.

But yeah, its not really worth debating lol.

NATS FanMember since 2018
7 years ago

Ive thought about this to much and if I am Lorenzen I would be peeved. He is not winning any Cy Youngs. He is lucky if he gets to start rather than relieve. This might be the only significant milestone of his career. Sure no one in the general public gives a tomato, but to him and his, he was rather significantly robbed.