Miguel Cabrera vs. Jonathan Schoop
Here’s a link to the play, which isn’t yet embeddable. To summarize:
- 5-3 Tigers, top 8
- Runners on 1st and 2nd, nobody out
- Victor Martinez doubles to center
- Torii Hunter scores from second
- Miguel Cabrera tries to score from first
- fails
- Tigers lose 7-6
Cabrera was gunned down on the relay by Jonathan Schoop. Had he remained at third — with nobody out — then the Tigers would’ve had J.D. Martinez up, and he’s really good. It was a questionable decision to send Cabrera at the time, but now it’s even more questionable with the benefit of hindsight, because knowing the subsequent results makes critics of everyone. Brad Ausmus was asked specifically about sending Cabrera in his sad post-game press conference.
Here is pretty much everything you need to know. Obviously, the Tigers benefit if Cabrera scores. Relative to second and third with nobody out, the Tigers’ win expectancy would’ve increased about 0.7%. The cost of the out, however, was -3.2%, and what that yields is a break-even rate of 82%. Or, it makes sense to send Cabrera if you think he can make it 82% of the time. Some shots of Cabrera’s positioning:
Not only does Cabrera not run well — he’s long been playing through discomfort. Do those shots give him an 82% success rate? I don’t know. Probably not. Schoop made a perfect throw home, so that’s a factor, but he would’ve had Cabrera with an imperfect throw, as long as it was decent enough. Given that Martinez was coming up, it seems like Cabrera should’ve stayed put.
Two big points, though:
(1) It wasn’t completely and utterly insane to send Cabrera, since the Tigers would’ve benefited had he scored. Defenses screw up all the time.
(2) Even with the out, the Tigers’ win expectancy was a hair north of 93%. They had a runner in scoring position and a three-run lead with six outs left to get. I don’t care what the Tigers’ bullpen has done lately so much — it’s a big-league bullpen, if barely, and you expect even mediocre relievers to be able to get six outs before allowing at least three runs. Three runs in two innings is a 13.50 ERA, which is above position-player territory. Cabrera probably shouldn’t have gone. Probably, that was a mistake. But this was only a turning point in retrospect. To dwell on Cabrera is to spend time not dwelling on the misery of the Tigers’ relief. Once more, that’s why the game went to shit.
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.


Ha ha Ha great ending. Thanks for helping to make having to be at work during this glorious day of playoff baseball bearable Jeff.
Cheers
“went to shit”
Not used to profanity at FG, but as a fan of the Tigers, there’s really no other way to describe it. When you’ve run out of negative things to say about this bullpen, sometimes profanity is the only thing which suffices.
“went to shit” depending on your perspective. I thought the game turned beautiful. Is Fangraphs openly rooting against Baltimore?
come on
“Come on” is the only reasonable reaction to that.
Okay, fine. The tone seems pervasive on here.
A worthwhile comparison would be between the decision to send Cabrera in the top of the 8th with the decision to send Hardy in the bottom of the 8th on D. Young’s hit. Hardy beat that throw by a hair – if Kinsler’s relay had been on the 3rd-base side of the plate they might have had him. It seems the stakes were similar there, even if that decision worked out and the Tigers’ decision failed.
Orioles’ defense… an X-Factor… and a confounder of even the best expectations.
I’m a lifelong Orioles fan and I second that reply: Come on.
Jeff, do defenses really screw up that play all the time? Seems more like a routine effort.
Completing a relay is routine, but there’s a wide range of potential throw times and locations. If the throw, say, takes the catcher to the other side of the plate, Cabrera might be able to squeeze in.
Has there been any sort of analysis done on these sorts of situations (i.e. should 3rd base coaches be sending more runners)? Became very interested in the topic this year when it seemed (at least to me) that Mike Gallego for the A’s has become quite aggressive in sending
I do not know!
I’ve wondered the same thing Tim_the_Beaver. Another wierd stat I’ve always been interested in is how good players are at tagging people out. There are a few lazy taggers out there, and then every once in a while I’ll notice a guy who is superb at it.
Two outs: send him
One out: perhaps
No outs: pretty much never