Jacob deGrom Is Back

From 2018 through the first half of 2021, watching Jacob deGrom carve his way through whatever hapless lineup the Mets faced was a constant. His 1.94 ERA over that stretch was wildly impressive, but that doesnāt tell the whole story. He wasnāt just enjoyable for the ERA, or even his entire statistical line, though that also boggled the mind.
To me, what was most impressive about deGrom is how he seemed to make the opposition inconsequential. It didnāt matter who he was facing, really. Every start was deGrom against himself, a pitcher perfecting his craft. When he located well (and he frequently did), he might as well have been pitching to cardboard cutouts. Fastball on the upper corner, slider falling away beneath it ā the specifics changed, but deGromās repetition of his pitches never did.
Then disaster fell. Though he’d been remarkably durable during his run, missing only a few games with lat issues early in the 2021 season, the fun came to an end last July. He sprained his flexor tendon ā the tendon that runs from forearm to finger, which sounds pretty important for pitching ā and never threw another pitch that year. Some of that was the Mets falling out of the race; the team said he would have been ready for the postseason.
After he missed the first half of this season with a right scapula stress reaction, no one would blame you for wondering whether the ride was coming to an end. An entire year without a major league start is an eternity for someone who didnāt get Tommy John surgery. But I have good news for those of you who, like me, found watching deGrom’s casual dominance calming and delightful: Heās back, and with little rust to be found.
In his first start this season, against the foundering Nationals, deGrom went five innings and 59 pitches. He gave up only a single run ā two of Washingtonās three hits off of him came in succession in the fourth inning ā before the New York bullpen faltered and the Mets lost, 5ā1. He left thanks to a ramp-up plan; five innings and 55 pitches was the rough target, and he achieved that.
Now, letās talk about Sunday. Most pitchers can be understood in charts and pictures, for me at least. Show me their strikeout and whiff numbers, show me a chart of their pitch mix, add in some velocity and movement, and I can get the idea. If youāre feeling frisky, you can even add one of the Baseball Savant spin graphs that help explain how hard battersā jobs are. That doesnāt really work with deGrom. Here, check out his spin chart, which is impressive mainly for how sparse it is:

Heās a two-pitch pitcher; his changeup and curveball are excellent too, but he simply hasnāt used them very often. In his first start, he threw four changeups and three curveballs. Yesterday, he used them even less: two curves and not a single changeup.
It didnāt look like deGrom missed them. For the first five innings yesterday, he was perfect. He tormented the Braves with his slider and backed it with an overpowering fastball. At times, he looked like a pitching machine, throwing the same pitch over and over again, to a perfectly calibrated spot. Here, watch all four pitches of William Contrerasā fifth-inning strikeout:
Not convinced? Here are all four pitches deGrom threw to the next batter, Robbie Grossman:
Eight sliders, five swings, five whiffs. Iāve always enjoyed deGromās one-sided dominance; itās both calming and mystifying to watch him paint the same edge of the plate all day, despite hitters knowing exactly whatās coming. Yesterday was that experience taken to another level, though. I donāt know how pitch command grades work, exactly, but I think this is an 80:

I donāt know if you saw it in that first smash cut, but in addition to that pristine location, deGrom’s slider topped out above 95 mph; his first slider to Contreras was 95, and he hit 95.7 earlier. His average slider velocity yesterday was the same as 2021 AL Cy Young winner Robbie Rayās average fastball velocity in 2022. Heād be in the 57th percentile league-wide for velocity among starting pitchers ā if that were how fast he threw his fastball.
Itās a slider! Heās three ticks clear of any other starter there (Zack Wheeler comes in second). He throws his slider 1.5 mph faster, on average, than Emmanuel Clase. He throws it three mph harder than Edwin DĆaz and with similar movement, and DĆaz has used a slider-first approach in putting up the best relief season in the majors this year.
The Braves swung at 20 sliders yesterday. They came up empty on their first 18 (!) attempts. Michael Harris II fouled two of them off in deGromās last inning of work. They were ineffectual foul balls, pulled and topped; per Statcast, they traveled a combined seven feet before hitting the ground. That was the best the Braves managed against his slider. What did Harris get for his troubles? A nice parting gift, 100 on the black:
The start wasnāt perfect, despite deGrom retiring the first 17 batters he faced with 12 strikeouts. Before the game, the Mets announced that they were targeting six innings and 75 pitches, but the Braves had other ideas. Ehire Adrianza worked a walk on five straight high fastballs. On a 1ā1 count to Dansby Swanson, deGrom threw one of his slowest fastballs of the day ā āonlyā 98.3 mph ā and Swanson took an impressive hack, muscling it out to the opposite field:
Thatās amazing hitting. It had to be to handle deGrom yesterday. He garnered 25 whiffs in only 76 pitches. The Braves only swung 42 times, which means they got nothing but air on 60% of their swings. Iād say thatās elite reliever territory, but Iād be lying: DĆaz leads the majors in whiff-per-swing rate at 47.4%.
For once, the Mets backed deGrom with some early offense. One of the strange quirks of his dominance is that it came in games where his team hardly scored, and over 91 starts from 2018 through ’21, he went only 32ā21. Watch a deGrom start in those years, and it always felt like a 2ā1 game in the seventh. He was masterful ā and he had to be.
This yearās Mets might change that narrative; theyāre fourth in baseball in runs scored per game, a far cry from the light-hitting days of recent past. They hardly needed the pitching help; theyāre allowing the fourth-fewest runs in the majors this season. Adding the best pitcher in baseball ā and after his two starts, I feel comfortable saying deGrom is the best pitcher in baseball again ā surely wonāt hurt.
Yesterdayās game ended without further scoring after Swansonās homer, a 5ā2 Mets victory. That was the last of a five-game set against Atlanta that the Mets took handily, giving them a 6.5-game lead in the NL East; per our playoff odds, theyāve eclipsed a 90% chance of winning the division. For the first time since a 2015 run to the World Series, we might be seeing deGrom in the playoffs a few months hence.
Thatās assuming health, which feels sadly tenuous. Watching deGrom elicits awe, but it also elicits worry. How can his arm stand it? How can he throw so hard so consistently? Will his body continue to betray him in new ways? Heās pushing the limits of his craft, honing each pitch to a gleaming sheen and overpowering lineups with it. Iām imploring you: watch his next start. The one after that is never guaranteed, and the multi-year run heās on is rare even in the great sweep of baseballās history.
Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.
That last paragraph summarizes what’s killing baseball the most right now. Insanely great pitching driven by the necessity to be at 99.9999999% of humanly possibly efficiency and effort to be a 2022 star = insanely low mileage on said great pitching.
I wholeheartedly agree. All of these starters who throw so hard, but is it necessary to do so all of the time?
I think the problem is you canāt just reduce risk by reducing effort like a robot. If there were some way for top pitchers like deGrom to somehow be like 10% worse but also 50% more likely to stay healthy, youād take that right? A 10% less good deGrom is still an ace. But I donāt know that you could really achieve that by saying āthrow just a little less hard.ā First, as the Dansby homer illustrates, even for deGrom it may be a pretty fine line between him being the god he is and being just a good pitcher. And then of course we also really have no idea how much such a reduction in effort would help with preventing injuries.
I will say that I had a friend one time suggest that the Colts should just save Bob Sanders for the playoffs. This was when the Colts had that amazing offense and would regularly roll through the regular season and wrap up home field by week 15. But Bob Sanders was always getting hurt. He was a safety. The idea was that they really didnāt need him to make it to the playoffs but he sure would have helped once they were there. You donāt ever see this, but you wonder about a team like the Mets if they open up a big lead over the Braves (and over the NL central), if theyād consider giving deGrom a break of like a month to make it more likely that he could be used through October. They wonāt. I just donāt think that mindset is even a starter in MLB ?or sports, generally), but it is an interesting thought exercise.
It’s made tougher by the fact that MLB contract rules require incentives to be built around appearances or awards. I don’t know how close he’ll get to any of his, but the MLBPA might have something to say about it if they sit him.
Well, Iām this specific case award and appearance incentives are presumably out of reach, if deGrom even has those in his contract, which I donāt think he does. But yes, this would definitely be a consideration. And MLB may also get involved if this became a thing, like the NBA has.
I have felt for some time that journalist based awards should not be used for contract incentives. More objective indicators are available now. Like appearances, innings pitched, bWAR, fWAR, RC+ etc, should be the basis for incentives. I can see why NYT disallows their journalists from voting on such things. I also think that the journalists themselves should petition MLB and MLBPA for this to happen.
In the past they would simply pitch through those injuries, tho
Another problem is if a pitcher does try to tone it down a bit to stay healthy there is probably just as much risk that he would alter his mechanics slightly and that could be what leads to an injury.
Let me start out by saying that I hope deGrom stays healthy and builds himself a Hall of Fame career before he calls it quits. I wanna put that out there just in case I come off harsh.
To me, Jacob deGrom is Icarus. He is flying higher than anybody else has before, but he is not stopping, and he keeps pushing himself, flying closer and closer to the sun. The wings started to crack last year, and I have a terrible feeling that they’re gonna keep falling apart in the next few years if he doesn’t calm down and lower his altitude.
He threw his hardest pitches in the first inning, then was a robotic 98-100 the rest of the way (with an ever so slight drop overall), a reliever’s velocity range. I don’t get it. I really don’t. Does anyone in the Mets organization think he’s gonna hold up doing this? Does deGrom himself believe his body can take that much max-effort throwing? Because I don’t see how he does.
You know why no starter in history has ever thrown as consistently hard as deGrom does? Because no starter before has been as reckless to push himself so close to his limit at all times. There have been quite a few starters in history capable of triple digits, of 101, even a few capable of 102. Justin Verlander at his best topped out at 103, and yet his average was around 95 MPH, not 99+ like deGrom. Verlander went anywhere between 90-102 in his starts, deGrom stays right at 98-101 consistently. One of them was famous for his stamina and durability (and only broke for real after well over 3000 IP and a gazillion pitches), the other is sometimes referred to as “deGlass”.
This also goes for Hunter Greene, Spencer Strider and even guys like AlcĆ”ntara and Cole to a certain extent. Slow. Things. Down. Or you’re unlikely to last. I’d like to see deGrom pitch until he’s 42, not retire at 37 with a blown elbow. I just don’t get it.
If you simply watched deGrom’s windup, and compared it to other pitchers, you’d have no idea he was throwing 102.
He does not have some kind of “max effort” delivery, that looks overwhelmingly stressful. He just has the closest thing to perfectly repeatable mechanics with the same release point over and over.
He could get hurt, every pitcher can, but it’s not going to be because of some false narrative that he’s exerting himself any more than every other pitcher on the staff. There are guys throwing 92 MPH that probably push themselves harder than deGrom pushes himself to hit 102.
I would absolutely believe deGrom is throwing triple digits looking at his mechanics. His arm speed is inhuman and he gets a ton of shoulder-hip separation, among other things. His mechanics are explosive and filled with effort, they’re just very clean and he repeats them like a robot.
If he wasn’t pushing himself to throw 102, he’d throw harder. He tops out at 102/103, we all know it. His average is just 3ish MPH below his max, and he rarely throws a fastball below 97 MPH. That’s very close to the limit, and such a narrow band.
That is where I come from. I remember those first starts back in 2014 and it was the fluidity of his delivery that caught my eye. The grace and balance is unmatched and, today, there is no hint whatsoever that he is throwing 102. I was always on the deGrom bandwagon and have been blowing his horn as loudly as possible ever since he dominated Kershaw and the Dodgers in the 2015 NLCS. Sadly he also epitomizes the obvious truth, that many choose not to believe, that there is no way to predict who is going to break down or why. Perfect mechanics are, most certainly, no guarantee and limiting usage has never been shown to work either. I personally think dialing back his heater is of no value and we must enjoy what he is presenting us with and hope that it goes on and on.
“Live fast, die young, and leave a beautiful corpse.”
Ironically that he had a cracked scapula which is basically the human wing
This is every Mets’ fan’s fear. We stare at the TV, amazed by the dominance, wishing he would dial it back for his own preservation, amazed that he can’t, hoping it’s not the last pitch he throws.
I largely agree with your point, except for this: ” Because no starter before has been as reckless to push himself so close to his limit at all times.”
I don’t think this is true at all. I think probably tens of thousands of guys have maxed out their efforts without even reaching the majors, and most of those that do make it max out their efforts from the day they arrive. Nolan Ryan famously seemed to be at max effort for every bit of his absurdly long, overpowering career.
I think some of the greats from way back in the day (like Cy Young and his contemporaries) eased up in less stressful innings with dead balls, and guys like Justin Verlander are able to sit just below max effort for some innings at a time, but nowadays he’s an exception.
Guys don’t throw 101 or 102 because they can’t, not because they’re not trying.
That’s a fair point. I was mainly thinking of the greats when I said “no starter”, but I didn’t convey it well. On me.
DeGrom doesn’t even need to throw this hard for his fastball to be overpowering. He gets elite extension, has a flat VAA and his fastball jumps. It would be a dominant heater at 95. But he’s dedicated himself to pushing the limits. For better and worse.
Do you imagine that deGrom, his agent, his peers, his friends/advisors, and team management have discussed this question? I assume all have, at length. What is your basis for believing the following:
1) That it would be a simple matter for deGrom to “Slow. Things. Down.” and pitch differently, while retaining most of his effectiveness?
2) That doing so is a reliable means for averting injury, as opposed to the kind of shift that is as apt to court injury as prevent it?
Are you suggesting there are other ptichers who have the tools to match deGrom’s performance and that the only thing standing between them and him is that he reckless and they are wise?
1) Yeah, if he practiced it. deGrom has superlative arm talent and his fastball would be dominant at 95. If he tried to ramp up through games, he could do it.
2) The more max effort pitches you throw, the more tension you put on your body. This is basic. And why pitchers are made of glass now despite throwing less than ever. Exchanging durability for velocity.
I never talked about deGrom’s performance, I’m talking about velocity. There have been starters through baseball history who could’ve sat 99+ if they wanted (Verlander, Randy maybe even peak Ubaldo and a few others), but didn’t because they understood that it wasn’t a sustainable way to pitch 33+ games and 200+ innings a year. I think the baseball industry as a whole is reckless when it comes to pitchers. They use em up and throw em out. Back then they threw em out there until their arm fell off, now they extract every bit of power and velocity out of them and use em until they break or get expensive.
I agree with this for sure. 30 years ago max effort might have meant 92 mph.. Now it means 100. 30 years from now it will mean 110
110 just isn’t humanly possible.
I donāt think thatās true. Havenāt they shown people can go 130ish. Would make sense that people can continue to go harder than what they are now.
It’s very possible that deGrom would have just as many injuries if he was throwing softer. It’s also very possible that his velocity is contributing to the injuries. But calling what he’s doing reckless way overstates your ability to know the causation. I also doubt Jake hasn’t gotten input from the most knowledgeable sports medicine people on the planet as to what he should be doing.
Nolan Ryan threw faster than almost anyone else, and he did it for decades. Was he reckless and just lucky? He almost certainly was blessed with tremendous genetics, and I’m sure he worked very hard to keep himself in shape to have a long career.
I think it’s pretty easy, when you compare Nolan Ryan to every single other pitcher who has ever played, to say yes he was reckless and lucky. He absolutely did work hard to keep himself in shape. But so did almost every other good pitcher, both then and now. And yet somehow he’s the only one who has thrown in 27 seasons. The only other one to get to 26 seasons had a career-extending surgery named after him. None of the three to get to 25 (Kaat, Hough, and Moyer) were hard throwers. Nolan Ryan was a physical freak, every bit as much as someone who can throw 105 is a physical freak. Somehow, he had the ability to sling a ball as hard as he could for 5,386 innings. That’s bananas.
I don’t think what deGrom is doing is reckless. I think he’s making a decision about his career and what he can achieve. Early in his career he was really good, but now he’s an unhittable monster. His average fastball is also 4-5 ticks faster. And he’s gone from a 4-pitch pitcher to a 2-pitch pitcher. If he can’t throw the other pitches or doesn’t want to for whatever reason (they still grade out as awesome), maybe to him this is survival.
But I also think we don’t have to ignore common sense about whether it makes him more likely to get hurt just because we acknowledge he may be making the right decision for himself. Of course throwing harder makes you more likely to get hurt. The physics issues here are not terribly opaque. And, conversely, of course he could get hurt just as often throwing less hard. But what is possible is not what is probable.
Do we know that Nolan Ryan didnāt need tj? Do we know that he wouldnāt of had tj if he pitched today?
This is not at all how pitching works. These guys throw so hard now because they are bigger, stronger, more flexible and have more perfectly efficient (not worse or reckless) mechanics. The body might break, but you simply cannot blame that on the approach. Trying to slow anything down would also make command and maintaining off-speed movement nearly impossible.
I have said it over and over on many forums. Regardless of whatever a pitcher does to try to protect his arm there is nothing that has ever been proven to work. Some arms fall off and some don’t.
Yeah, figuring out how to keep pitchers healthy seems like the holy grail now. Everyone is chasing it and who knows if it even exists?
I don’t agree. I was a competitive pitcher once upon a time. Sitting at 90% effort throughout a game was normal, and would let you reach back for something extra when necessary. And 90% effort isn’t low enough that it would affect your delivery process. Just throwing a ball “normal hard” is like 90% effort. 100% effort is exhausting and not sustainable for several innings, or at least wasn’t to me, although I’m sure one could be conditioned to do it for a few innings.
It shouldn’t be possible or legal to throw a slider 95.7 MPH.
If the Mets can stay relatively healthy going to the playoffs Iād have them as the World Series favorites. I mean facing Scherzer and deGrom are as daunting as facing the big unit and Schilling back in ā01 and Scherzer and deGrom have good backup in Bassitt, Carrasco and Walker while the rotation behind Schilling and Johnson was underwhelming. The bullpen is a bit of a worry outside of Diaz and maybe Ottavino but hopefully the Mets elite offense and rotation can take some pressure off of them.
The great starters will definitely be asked to go farther in the post-season. Scherzer, competitor that he is, will have to be dragged off the mound. I am reminded of the game Nolan Ryan was pitching and the manager came out to remove him. Ryan said “One of us is going back to the dugout and isn’t going to be me”. These two men will go deep and hand the ball off to Sugar
The manager was Bobby V and from then on he had his pitching coach pull the pitchers.
The thing about DeGrom (well there are just so many things!) is that as he’s gotten older, he’s thrown LESS pitches. Literally, every single starting pitcher I can think of has had to change their game plan and add more pitches or refine their approach as they have gotten older. DeGrom is in a class all by himself. I’ve never seen it before, and I don’t think we’ll ever see it again.
Yep. I’ve been watching baseball a long time, and I never recall watching a starter who essentially throw two pitches, everyone in the stadium knows the two pitches, and you know exactly where one of the two pitches (slider) is going to be located every time. And it’s still unhittable.
Peak Gooden, peak Ryan, Randy Johnson… not many in the modern era.
peak ryan didn’t even know where the ball was going a lot of the time
Neither did the hitters at the plate
Chris Sale was quite close in his peak, and had the same injury issues.
If you want to see 80 command: here is the heat map for Mariano Rivera’s last season, for every pitch he threw against left-handed batters (his splits against righties aren’t quite so clean because he would throw 4-seamers up and in to move batters’ eyes if they were cheating forward on cutters). Keep in mind that he was 43 years old at this point. Literally nothing but cutters on the edge of the plate and back door cutters away on the edge of the plate:
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/mariano-rivera/844/heat-maps?position=P&ss=2013-04-04&se=2013-09-26&type=0&hand=L&count=all&blur=1&grid=10&view=pit&pitch=&season=all&data=
A better view, in my opinion.
Mariano Rivera – Heat Maps – Pitch% | FanGraphs Baseball
Perfectly placed cutters and perfectly placed back door cutters and literally nothing else. We could have 1,000 years of baseball and never have another Mo Rivera.
Lost in the accolades for Jacob deGrom is the almost equally interesting story of his minor league career. He never hinted at what he has become and the only reason he got that first start in 2014 was because the Mets had completely run out of arms to start. He was a 9th round pick and did very little during his slow trek through the minors. He still pitched in A ball at the age of 25 and in his minor league career he gave up more hits than innings pitched and did not come close to a K per inning. It is simply amazing that he is presently performing at a level that compares favorably with anything seen in the history of baseball.
That’s not true at all. DeGrom was superb in 2012 in what was his rookie year as a pitcher. The Mets weren’t planning on abandoning him just because he got knocked around in 2013 while increasing his levels, including to the hitter’s park that is Las Vegas. After 2012, short of several years of injury or ineffectiveness, they were hardly going to ignore him–and in favor of whom? It’s not like the system was even remotely loaded with pitching.
But Rafael Montero!
He was nothing special in the minors: mid-7 K/9, pretty good command, lots of ground balls.
Then he came up to the majors and was suddenly striking out an extra 2 batters per 9 innings without losing the ground balls. I still don’t understand how that happened so fast, like he flipped a switch.