Jay Jaffe’s 2020 Hall of Fame Virtual Ballot
The following article is part of Jay Jaffe’s ongoing look at the candidates on the BBWAA 2020 Hall of Fame ballot. For a detailed introduction to this year’s ballot, and other candidates in the series, use the tool above; an introduction to JAWS can be found here. For a tentative schedule and a chance to fill out a Hall of Fame ballot for our crowdsourcing project, see here. All WAR figures refer to the Baseball-Reference version unless otherwise indicated.
It’s “no such thing as a perfect ballot” season. As far back as 2013, my second year at SI.com, I’ve used that refrain to describe the difficulty of winnowing a nearly unmanageable backlog of plausible Hall of Fame candidates down to 10, the maximum allowed per voter. With an unprecedented flood of 20 players elected over the past six cycles, and just one obvious choice among the newcomers, the backlog has abated, which should make the process of voting easier. Nonetheless, with my annual exercise in filling out a virtual ballot comes an acknowledgement of the numerous subjective choices that go into even the most objective-minded ballots. As with so many other endeavors, perfection may be unattainable, but that’s not to say it’s not worth pursuing.
Despite the work I put into Hall of Fame research in general, and into my annual series in particular, I still don’t have a vote, but after breaking down ballots for 19 election cycles — 17 since introducing the system that became JAWS, and nine since gaining admission to the BBWAA — I’m just one year away. At this time next year, I’ll be explaining my actual ballot and reporting it to Ryan Thibodaux and the Tracker troupe. Whether filling out a virtual ballot or an actual one, my process is still the same. I perform this exercise to illustrate the hard choices a voter faces, and to do so by the ballot submission deadline (December 31). As always, I am guided by my JAWS system, but not enslaved by it, for there are considerations that a comparative Wins Above Replacement-based methodology — which can account for the widespread variations in scoring from era to era and ballpark to ballpark (producing the occasional double-take) — can’t capture, including pennant race and postseason contributions, awards and honors, and historical importance.
Over the past six weeks, I’ve analyzed the top 18 candidates on the ballot, the ones in serious consideration for those 10 precious spots (beyond the odd courtesy vote). I’ve begun my coverage of the 14 remaining “one-and-done” guys — none of whom has received a single vote from among the 57 published ballots thus far — and will continue the series into early January, as they’re fun to write about without fixating upon how short of Hall standards they are. But now, it’s time to fish or cut bait.
Let’s start with a look at the 20 candidates who are within 20 points of the JAWS standards at their given positions:
| Player | YoB | Standards | Career WAR | Peak WAR | JAWS | Margin |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Barry Bonds | 8 | 3 | 162.8 | 72.7 | 117.8 | 64.2 |
| Roger Clemens | 8 | 3 | 139.2 | 65.9 | 102.5 | 41.0 |
| Curt Schilling | 8 | 2 | 79.5 | 48.6 | 64.1 | 2.6 |
| Derek Jeter | 1 | 2 | 72.4 | 42.4 | 57.4 | 2.4 |
| Larry Walker | 10 | 3 | 72.7 | 44.7 | 58.7 | 1.9 |
| Scott Rolen | 3 | 3 | 70.2 | 43.7 | 56.9 | 1.2 |
| Manny Ramirez | 4 | 2 | 69.4 | 40.0 | 54.7 | 1.1 |
| Todd Helton | 2 | 1 | 61.2 | 46.5 | 53.9 | -0.9 |
| Andruw Jones | 3 | 1 | 62.8 | 46.5 | 54.7 | -3.1 |
| Sammy Sosa | 8 | 1 | 58.6 | 43.8 | 51.2 | -5.6 |
| Bobby Abreu | 1 | 60.0 | 41.6 | 50.8 | -6.0 | |
| Gary Sheffield | 6 | 60.5 | 38.0 | 49.3 | -7.5 | |
| Jason Giambi | 1 | 50.5 | 42.2 | 46.4 | -8.4 | |
| Billy Wagner | 5 | 27.7 | 19.8 | 23.7 | -8.8 | |
| Jeff Kent | 7 | 55.4 | 35.7 | 45.6 | -11.3 | |
| Andy Pettitte | 2 | 60.2 | 34.1 | 47.1 | -14.4 | |
| Omar Vizquel | 3 | 45.6 | 26.8 | 36.2 | -18.8 | |
| J.J. Putz | 1 | 13.1 | 12.9 | 13.0 | -19.5 | |
| Cliff Lee | 1 | 43.5 | 39.8 | 41.6 | -19.9 | |
| Rafael Furcal | 1 | 39.4 | 30.7 | 35.1 | -19.9 |
Of that group, seven candidates exceed the JAWS standards — the average of the enshrined players — at their positions, the lowest total since the 2012 cycle, and half as many as we saw in 2014. Here, this is worth a picture:

The blue bars represent the number of players on a given ballot who meet or exceed the JAWS standards at their positions. The red ones represent the number with a JAWS of at least 50 (or at least 40 for catchers, since the metric scales differently at that position) — a threshold that’s more or less in the ballpark as far as wiggle room goes, at least in practice. Two years ago, the writers elected Vladimir Guerrero (50.3 JAWS) with 92.9% of the vote; to find a position player below those thresholds who was elected by the writers, one has to go back to Kirby Puckett (44.4) with 82.1% in 2001.
As you can see from the graph, both totals of candidates were at or above 10 from 2014-18, but the traffic has subsided. This year’s ballot does have 11 candidates with at least 50 JAWS, a count that includes neither Sheffield (49.3) nor Billy Wagner (23.7); to an even greater degree than catchers, relievers are on a different scale as far as JAWS is concerned.
Anyway, of this year’s seven candidates who exceed the JAWS standards, four top the career WAR and peak WAR standards as well (down from six last year). Three more top the career and JAWS standards but not peak, while three others top only the peak standards. Those tallies are represented in the “Standards” column in the table above, with the yellow squares highlighting the particular standards met. Among those who don’t meet any standards are three players I classify as “candidates of interest,” namely Abreu, Sheffield, and Wagner — players who fall shy on JAWS but about whom I remain particularly open-minded, for reasons explained below.
Three others are candidates who have garnered support from other voters, but are along for the ride here as far as I’m concerned. If you want to know more about why Kent, Pettitte, and Vizquel don’t make my cut, I’ve got a few thousand words to that effect with regards to each. Likewise with regards to newcomers Giambi and Lee, both of whom have been shut out in the voting thus far. Note the inclusion of Putz and Furcal within my first-cut threshold; for a reliever, that’s still “nope, not even close at all” territory, and while it’s not much closer for a shortstop, it’s worth noting the comparatively minuscule gap between Vizquel and Furcal, despite the former playing 84% more games than the latter during their respective careers.
Thus I begin with 13 candidates for a maximum of 10 slots, which isn’t to say that I’m committed to using all 10, but that’s my real starting point. We can then get the obvious out of the way: one spot is earmarked for Jeter. Regardless of the lousy defense, he was an exceptional hitter, particularly for the position, and an outstanding postseason performer who played a major role for five championship teams. I see no reason to get cute by excluding him for reasons of ballot management — in other words, to give a more marginal candidate a much-needed vote; this backlog isn’t that unwieldy. What’s more, I hope that last year’s unanimous selection of Mariano Rivera is the start of a trend of so honoring the most blindingly obvious candidates, not just the better members of the Core Four. Even if it isn’t, hey, Jeter’s a Hall of Famer, and I’m happy to add my name to that particular petition.
Moving along, as I’ve said repeatedly throughout this series, when it comes to candidates connected to performance-enhancing drugs, I draw a line between those whose allegations date to the time when the game had no testing regimen or means of punishment (i.e., prior to 2004) and those that came afterwards. With no means of enforcing a paper ban, and with players flouting such a ban being rewarded left and right amid what was truly a complete institutional failure that implicated owners, the commissioner, and the players’ union as well as the players, I simply don’t think voters can apply a retroactive morality to say that a Bonds or a Clemens or a Sosa shouldn’t be in the Hall on that basis alone. I’ve done enough research to believe that this is a reasonable place to start, but it must be acknowledged that there’s no consensus within the electorate over how to handle the issue, and voters’ views on the topic range from “performance only” to “hang ’em high at the first hint of suspicion.” This issue alone is the biggest impediment to a perfect ballot; some of us, voter or bystander, will never agree on how to handle the problem.
But anyway, two spots on my ballot go to Bonds, the all-time home run leader, and Clemens, the best pitcher since World War II. As noted within my profiles of the gruesome twosome, the pair made big gains on the 2016 and ’17 ballots and surpassed the 50% mark in the latter year, but have since seen their momentum slowed; last year, Clemens received 59.5%, Bonds 59.1%. With three years of eligibility remaining (including this one), they’re not licked yet, but gaining five percentage points per year is hardly automatic.
On that same basis, I have to cross Ramirez off my list. On a performance-only basis, he would get my vote, as he’s one of the greatest hitters of all time; his 154 OPS+ ranks 20th among players with at least 7,000 PA. Right now, I can’t get past the two failed tests, not when better players who never tested positive are being kept out over more nebulous PED allegations.
That leaves nine players for seven spots. Easily making the cut, with my lightning-round summaries of their cases, and links to their full profiles, are this pair:
- Walker (10th among right fielders in JAWS, 54.6% in 2019): A legitimate five-tool player, Walker was outstanding at defense and base running as well as hitting. Even after adjusting for the time he spent at high altitude, he’s tied for 43rd all-time in OPS+. His injury-shortened career has provoked some resistance among voters, but the electorate has come around to such a degree that he’s gained nearly 43% over the past four cycles. If — and this is no small word — he can approximate last year’s 20.5% jump, he’ll join Tim Raines and Edgar Martinez among the recent, analytically-favored candidates who have gained entry in their 10th and final rounds on the BBWAA ballot. Currently polling at 86.4% on the published ballots, he’s going to need every single vote he gets, but even if he falls short, his showing will be impossible for the Today’s Game committee to ignore down the road.
- Rolen (10th among third basemen in JAWS, 17.2% in 2019): An exceptional but under-appreciated two-way player, Rolen combined power and patience at the plate with some of the best glove work the hot corner has ever seen. Even in a career that contained numerous injuries and ended at age 37, he ranks third at the position both in fielding runs (+175) and in Gold Gloves (eight) and, depending upon your choice of metric, belongs among the top 10 or 20 hitters for the position as well. Particularly at an underrepresented spot — there are just 15 third basemen in the Hall, compared to 26 right fielders and 19 to 21 at every other position besides catcher — he merits enshrinement. His candidacy started slowly, but he’s building momentum, currently polling at 42.4%.
That’s five spots filled, with seven candidates still in play for the other five. Let’s meet the contestants:
- Schilling (27th among starters in JAWS, 60.9% in 2019): He was the best postseason pitcher of his generation, with an outstanding strikeout rate and the best strikeout-to-walk ratio since the pitching distance moved to 60-foot-6. And contrary to his conspiracy theory — no, not the Qanon one — he was trending towards election in spite of his abrasive public persona and political views, at least until his November 2016 pro-lynching tweet stopped his momentum, costing him 7.3 percentage points relative to 2016. He regained most of that ground in 2018, and moved within striking distance in ’19.
Despite my increasing distaste for that persona, I included Schilling on my virtual ballots five times in his first six years of eligibility; I discovered in digging through my old work that I left him off in 2014 (as I did Biggio, Walker, and Alan Trammell, because the ballot was so damn crowded). Garden-variety political differences I can abide, and his politics had no bearing on his playing career. It’s a mistake to connect Schilling’s post-career conduct to the “integrity, sportsmanship, character” portion of the Hall’s voting instructions, or, for that matter to invest anything in the so-called character clause given that it was introduced by Commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis, who spent his 24-year tenure upholding the game’s color line. What’s more, if that clause could be applied in a positive manner to a commissioner who colluded against free agents and turned a blind eye to the proliferation of PEDs — that’s 2017 Today’s Game honoree Bud Selig — then it should be regarded as even flimsier and more meaningless than anyone has previously considered it.
That said, I will freely admit that I can’t stomach Schilling’s lynching tweet, his transphobic tweet, or his alignment with a white supremacist congressional candidate that even the alt-right site Breitbart backed away from (belatedly, after the horse was out of the barn, so did Schilling). I’m pretty concerned about his collection of Nazi artifacts, too.
Last year, with Schilling out of reach of 75%, I left him off my ballot so that I could include a player about whom I felt better and wanted to support; Wagner was the beneficiary. While reserving the right to do that again, I also have to note that there are other players on this ballot whose non-baseball actions leave a bad taste as well; notably, Bonds, Ramirez, and Jones have all been accused of domestic violence. My point being, I’m not sure how badly I want to wade into this particular muck as a means of cutting down to 10.
- Helton (15th among first basemen in JAWS, 16.5% in 2019): An exceptional hitter who served as the face of the Rockies’ franchise, he put up very big numbers in the first half of his career, numbers that hold up once we adjust for his park and league scoring environment. Injuries caused him to fade away, as he had just one good season out of his last four, but it’s not out of the question that his time at altitude had something to do with that. His peak ranks 10th among first basemen, about four wins above the standard, and his JAWS is less than a point below it.
- Jones (11th among center fielders in JAWS, 7.5% in 2019): If 2018 Hall of Fame honoree Chipper Jones was the Braves dynasty’s offensive cornerstone, Andruw Jones was its defensive one, an elite flychaser who won 10 Gold Gloves and ranks first at the position in fielding runs (+236). He could hit, too, bopping 434 career homers. His career collapsed at age 31, however; he played just 435 games over his final five seasons, disappearing from the majors at age 35, and so while he’s well above the peak standard, he’s short on the career one and in JAWS. I’m not so bothered by that, given his relative ranking and the fact that the standards in center and right field are a few points higher than every other position.
- Sosa (18th among right fielders in JAWS, 8.5% in 2019): A towering figure in baseball’s return from the strike, and just the sixth player to reach 600 home runs, he’s nonetheless below the bar in JAWS. That matters more to me than the report that he was on the supposedly anonymous 2003 survey test, which as noted above, belongs to the “Wild West” era before the game had a coherent PED policy. What’s more, commissioner Rob Manfred basically disavowed it in the context of celebrating Ortiz, on the grounds that some disputed results were never resolved because the threshold to implement testing had been reached. That doesn’t mean Sosa was clean, but if MLB couldn’t penalize him, I’m not going to — but I’m not obligated to vote for him, either.
- Abreu (20th among right fielders in JAWS): The 2020 ballot’s second-best newcomer, Abreu was a five-tool player with dazzling speed, a sweet left-handed stroke, enough power to win a Home Run Derby, and an otherworldly plate discipline. He routinely reached traditional seasonal plateaus — a .300 batting average (six times), 20 homers (nine times), 30 steals (six times), 100 runs scored and batted in (eight times apiece) and was a stathead favorite for his ability to take a walk (100 or more eight years in a row) and his high on-base percentages (.400 or better eight times). Yet he was ridiculously under-appreciated in his day, making just two All-Star teams and winning one Gold Glove. Like Sosa, he’s below the JAWS standard, but just above Guerrero.
- Sheffield (23rd in JAWS, 13.6% in 2019): There’s no denying Shef’s skill with the stick. His 561 batting runs above average — the offensive component of bWAR — rank 29th all-time, while his 140 OPS+ is tied for 48th; he’s either alongside or ahead of numerous no-doubt Hall of Famers in those categories, and to that he added an aesthetic quality of sheer menace in the batter’s box thanks to his lightning-quick reflexes and violent swing.
It’s his defense (-195 runs, second-lowest all time ahead of only Jeter), not his BALCO connection or his penchant for controversy, that has kept me from seriously considering him for a ballot spot, as it knocks him below 50 JAWS, and 7.5 points below the position standard. Yet I’m troubled by the extent to which those outlying defensive stats — largely estimates from the pre-batted-ball-type era — nuke Sheffield’s value. That goes double when they’re compared to his defensive numbers via alternative methodologies. With the ballot traffic thinned out, I’m willing to consider including him this time around.
- Wagner (tied for 19th among relievers in JAWS, 16.7% in 2019): The holder of the all-time records for strikeout rate and opponent batting average, albeit at just an 800-inning threshold, Wagner is short of the admittedly slapdash standard established by the eight enshrined relievers. Since I’ve never been entirely satisfied with how JAWS handles relievers, I’ve remained open-minded, seeking alternate ways to evaluate them using advanced stats, namely Win Probability Added (WPA) and situational or context-neutral wins (WPA/LI), both of which paint the pair in question in a better light than WAR. When I combine those with career WAR, averaging the three stats, he’s sixth behind Rivera, Dennis Eckersley, Hoyt Wilhelm, Rich Gossage and Hoffman, and ahead of Smith, Bruce Sutter and Rollie Fingers — making him the best reliever outside the Hall.
Of this group, Helton gets first dibs on a spot. I’m sticking with Billy Wags, too, and I’m restoring Jones, a 2018 pick who got squeezed off last year. I’m ruling out Sosa, whom I have never included on a virtual ballot; at this point, I feel like a vote for him is a wasted one, as he’s clearly going nowhere in this process. While Jones’ percentage is in single digits, he’s in just the third year of his candidacy.
That leaves Schilling, Sheffield, and Abreu for two spots. I’ve never voted for Shef, but he was a personal favorite, and his candidacy is showing signs of life (34.8% in the Tracker). If I include him, that brings the choice down to Schilling, who will eventually go in with or without my support (he’s polling at 86.4%, albeit a softer 86.4% than Walker, on whom far more voters have flipped), and Abreu, who may fall off the ballot or be headed for Jones/Sosa hanging-by-a-thread territory (7.6% in the Tracker), albeit with even less of a hook than either of those two.
Sorry, Bobby. You’ll have to stand in line behind Kenny Lofton, who fared better in JAWS and didn’t make my cut in 2013.

All told, having fewer automatic candidates, by JAWS or any other reckoning, leaves more room to play in the margins. I have my preferences and convictions about these players who don’t fit into a WAR-based metric, and it’s led me to this particular configuration. At the time I filed last year’s virtual ballot, the Tracker had 135 published ballots, and just one matched mine, that of former Spink Award winner Tracy Ringolsby. This time around, four days earlier relative to the December 31 deadline, just 63 ballots are in and none of them matches mine. It’s unique, but I certainly won’t claim this one’s perfect. Wait ’til next year!
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
My ballot would be the same, but with Manny replacing Andruw.
Great job on the series as always, Jay, enjoy it every year.
My ballot would be similar, but I wouldn’t have Andruw Jones, Roger Clemens, and Barry Bonds (for non PED moral reasons). I’m much more inclined to vote for Bobby Abreu because of those factors and I think he deserves better than a one and done.
Honestly I am coming around on this, personally. I get everyone’s opinions, but I think if a writer said that domestic violence (or whatever the hell Clemens was doing with that teenager) was a DQ for them personally, that would be fair enough.
I would also drop all three and add Abreu. I don’t know that I want him in the Hall of Fame yet but I definitely want to keep talking about him.
Also, I add Adam Dunn. Because he’s an OOTP legend.
I am verrrry on the fence on Abreu. I voted for him here (and would if I had an actual ballot) because I’d like to see him stay on the ballot so we could continue the conversation.
While I respect your conclusion on schilling, my solution to problem that there are other white supremacists already in the hall of fame is to not elect schilling and also kick out the white supremacists who were already in rather than electing additional white supremacists.
What is Schilling’s WSAR (White Supremacy Above other Racists) ?
Baseball would never have that level of morals!
But yes, I basically would say my morality line is if the marginalized have been harmed by the person. I understand it’s my own personal view.
I respect all the work you did and your decisions. They are obviously borne from a lot of research and thought.
At the same time, I strongly disagree with honoring Schilling and giving him a platform. Inducting him is tacitly saying that what he says is not that bad. But worse, it literally will give him a platform where he very well may spew his brand of hateful nonsense grievances about the world. If I were planning to go for the weekend, Schilling’s inclusion would change my plans.
I respect this point of view, and have given it much thought, both over the past year and in the process of writing this piece. I might prefer he’s elected this year without my actual vote as opposed to making me think about this stuff for another year. Reardless, if I attend the induction ceremonies, I would 100% guaranteed take a long walk during his segment so as to avoid listening to him, just as I did for Bud Selig in 2017.
Nobody who disagreed with this ever made a point. I wish you’d do so.
I’m pretty sure someone posted this exact ballot to the tracker this morning, check Twitter.
I’m also pretty sure that it’s identical to the one I filled out here when the crowdsource went live, though I may have dropped Schilling in favor of Abreu or Manny.
Great article, thank you. I respectfully disagree with the logic of not including Manny while including Clemens and Bonds. Although Clemens & Bonds didn’t fail a MLB test as blatantly clear as Manny, it seems there is plenty of generally accepted evidence that they used PEDs (through Pettitte’s testimony, and Balco investigation, the cream&clear, etc.).
I feel you should include all candidates regardless of steroid use, or decide to not include any of them. Imo, since a wide range of pitchers and hitters of that era were using PEDs, and it is nearly impossible to retroactively fully investigate who did what (and when and for how long), I think that anyone with hall-worthy numbers should be voted in regardless of suspected PED use, with the understanding that it was a “PED era” that they played in.
I look at pre-Jackie Robinson baseball in a similar light– that the numbers are viewed with huge a grain of salt, that there should be an understanding that the players of that era did not play with and compete against any people of color. We can still appreciate those pre-Robinson MLB numbers and performances for what they were but with the knowledge that things would be a lot different if MLB was open to everyone regardless of race.
The PED era? I have great memories of a lot of big moments from the era. Do I delete them from my memory because of PEDs? No, I appreciate them for what they were and retroactively look at the PED use with disdain but those players did play, and compete with each other, and I believe should be recognized in the HOF if we feel their numbers warrant it. Do they all get an asterisk? I don’t think so. The pre-Robinson players and criminals and racists currently enshrined in the HOF do not have an asterisk. I say let the PED players in. Open up those floodgates. They’re coming.
In your analogy, which is questionable, Manny Ramirez is more akin to a player that refuses to play integrated baseball, or perhaps works to hamper integration after 1947.
I think it is fair to have a nuanced view. My view is that steroids or other PED are a big mark against a player, especially if it seems that use was pervasive throughout your career. To me, Bonds and Clemens are pretty easy to put in, since there use was before there were penalties AND they seem likely to be all time greats even without steroids.
To me, guys like Sosa and McGwire seem like a product of steroids, and Manny broke the rules and got caught twice after any semblance of looking the other way had passed. Also, it seems very plausible to me that Manny roided all of most of his career and perhaps would have been only good or very good without chemical help.
Yeah, I agree that the distinction being made re: Manny is weird. I wonder what Jay will say when A-Rod becomes eligible. A-Rod never failed a drug test but no one doubts that he used. Will Jay give him a pass because he never failed a test? In which case the message is that it’s okay to take PEDs as long as you’re also good at masking them and therefore don’t fail a test.
I don’t understand the distinction between Manny and Arod in terms of getting caught. If I’m not mistaken, Manny failed a test showing that he was using masking agents. So if you want to get into “well actually” mode, you can. Arod was proven to use steroids. But, beyond that, he actually admitted to using them, too.
The argument for Arod as a yes and Manny as a no is that Arod is an inner circle all time great based on what he did on the field, and Manny is not. It’s also easier to believe that Arod would have still been HOF level without steroids. Do we know this? Of course not. But it’s easier to rationalize because he was such a great player.
“I don’t understand the distinction between Manny and Arod in terms of getting caught.”
Ummm….cause I didn’t make one. That was my whole point – that there should be no distinction.
“But, beyond that, he actually admitted to using them, too.”
Sure A-Rod admitted to using steroids. But not without a lot of kicking and screaming. So I’m not sure how much credit he deserves for that. To quote the Miami Herald when he finally confessed:
“For 21 tumultuous months, New York Yankees superstar Alex Rodriguez has defiantly maintained he never used banned substances from a Coral Gables anti-aging clinic, that he was the victim of a “witch hunt,” that his suspension from baseball was unjust and that he would fight to the end to clear his name.”
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/article3578762.html
Regarding your last paragraph….unfortunately, we simply have no way of knowing who took what, when, or where. Or what effect it had on their stats/career. All we’re doing is speculating. That’s why I would personally vote in players based on what they did on the field and not care about PED use.
” I draw a line between those whose allegations date to the time when the game had no testing regimen or means of punishment (i.e., prior to 2004) and those that came afterwards”
While I realize that there may be places where I use the shorthand of “failed test” to distinguish between Wild West and testing era allegations (the Clemens piece is where I think I clouded the waters a bit, and will make a note to clean that up for next year), I haven’t done so here. By my current standard, Rodriguez’s 2014 suspension is as disqualifying as the failed tests of Ramirez and Palmeiro.
Thanks, Jay, I appreciate the clarification!
As of today, here’s what we got on the Ballot Tracker, only about 17% of the ballots cast:
Abreu: He’s under 10%, at about 7.5%. He needs 16 more to get to the 5% threshold.
Bonds and Clemens: Both at 76.5%. Still got a long way to go, especially since last year both lost over 11 percentage points when the non-public ballots were counted, and that 76.5% isn’t comfortably above the line anyway.
Helton: 36.8%. That’s double what he got last year. We’ll talk about him next year.
Andruw Jones: 25%. He’ll be back again next year.
Jeter: 100%. Sure cool, whatever.
Jeff Kent: 30.9%: He got about 18% last year, so this is an improvement (so far) for him.
Pettite: 11.8%. Last year was about 10%. I really think he’s going to be on the ballot all ten years and struggle to get traction in all of them.
Manny: 42.6%, almost double what he got last year. It looks like he’s getting support from the same people who support Bonds and Clemens, but less of them.
Rolen: 41.2%, more than double last year. That’s an awfully good sign.
Schilling: 85.2%, 12 precentage points over where he was on the ballots last year. But he also lost about 9 percentage points from his 73% in the public ballots once the non-public ones were counted. He’s going to be right on the edge, most likely.
Sheffield: 33.8%, more than double last year (actually almost tripling it).
Sosa: 19.1%, double what he got last year. It’s also his 8th year on the ballot, so he’ll probably go all 10 and then drop off unless Clemens/Bonds make before their last year and those voters give their spots to him.
Vizquel: 47%. A little above where he was last year, and he got helped a little bit last year by the non-public ballots. Bizarro Harold Baines continues his steady ascent.
Wagner: 27.9%. Some improvement; not a lot.
Walker: 85.3%. This is a huge increase over last year–about 30%–but he got hurt by the non-public ballots, losing about 11%. This one is going to be close.
Since you posted this (Currently 12/30 @ 10:30am EST):
-Schilling has dropped from 85.2 to 81.3. This one seems too close to call. I think he will end up somewhere between 72-78.
-Bonds and Clemens both at 76.0%. Both will probably continue to drop off, and end up somewhere in the 60s.
-Walker up to 87.5%. Momentum seems to be on his side. So far, he’s picked up 15 votes from people who did not vote for him last year, and another 4 from 1st time voters.
My guess is Jeter and Walker get in. Schilling narrowly misses, and we will have to discuss him all over again next year, with the backdrop of the 2020 election fresh in everyone’s minds.
One other thought–I clicked through to see if there were any top-tier candidates coming through next year. Nope. Mark Buehrle, Torii Hunter, and Tim Hudson are the top candidates next year.
But then in 2022, we get A-Rod’s and David Ortiz’s first year on the ballot and (if they don’t get elected first) Bonds’ and Clemens’ last year on the ballot. So that will be fun (/sarcasm). It’s not going to be until 2023 that a lot of voters are going to get a new guy to vote for that they feel great voting for and also has a great statistical resume (Beltran).
I would definitely vote for Buehrle. He’s a lot closer statistically than a lot of people seem to think – he’s basically Pettite without the Yankee pedigree. But he does have a perfect game, a ring for which he made significant (albeit inebriated) contribution, 5 ASG, 4 GG, and some black ink in categories outside the big 3. What really sets him apart for me though is the 14 year streak with 200+ IP (plus a 15th in which he missed by four stinking outs). Every other pitcher who’s done that is in the Hall of Fame.
Buehrle has an okay case, basically if he kept playing at a Buehrlesque rate for 3-4 more years he’d be at or over the line so it’s just do you penalize him for retiring slightly early or not. That said he’s a starting pitcher and if you’re not an absolutely amazing starting pitcher your chances are slim, even if you were the best pitcher in the league for like 5 years in a row you might fall off the first ballot.
One minor quibble: Mariano Rivera was the greatest post-season pitcher of Curt Schilling’s generation. (I would still vote for Schlling, however.)
“I draw a line between those whose allegations date to the time when the game had no testing regimen or means of punishment (i.e., prior to 2004) and those that came afterwards. With no means of enforcing a paper ban…”
The author says that prior to 2004 there was “no means of punishment” and that MLB’s drug policy was a “paper ban.” These are demonstrably untrue statements.
Bowie Kuhn’s original 1971 Drug Policy Memo was enforced by MLB Commissioner Peter Ueberroth a couple dozen times in the 1980’s — most famously centered around the Pittsburgh Drug Trials. Numerous players were unilaterally disciplined in various ways by Ueberroth. All but one punishment was upheld through the appeal process. (The one overturned in its entirety was the absurd one-year ban for Fergie Jenkins.)
Users of illegal PEDs were quite clearly violating an enforceable MLB drug policy. The introduction of drug testing in 2004 simply made enforcement easier — not unlike security cameras or guards in a department store. (Shoplifting was of course exactly as illegal both before and after stores had such things.)
Plus, steroid use in the manner they were being used is/was outlawed by federal law. MLB didn’t have to rule on whether they were allowable or not, because MLB had no power/jurisdiction to make them allowable. The only thing the 2004 ruling did was lay out a clear schedule of punishments. But they were never allowed.
Sure, but jaywalking is also not allowed. And while I’m sure we can dig and point to examples of enforcement, you can do it in front of the police all day long and never have a word said to you.
Bit early but Chapman’s K/9 is 14.8 compared to Billy Wagner’s 11.9
800 IP
‘It’s a mistake to connect Schilling’s post-career conduct to the “integrity, sportsmanship, character” portion of the Hall’s voting instructions, or, for that matter to invest anything in the so-called character clause given that it was introduced by Commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis, who spent his 24-year tenure upholding the game’s color line.’
Why?
To add an unsolicited opinion on the tired and beaten PED for HOF vote topic, I try to knock any known PED users down a little, then re-evaluate. I follow the line of “PEDs help, but they certainly don’t make the player.”
This means all-timers like Clemens and Bonds still get in. A-Rod is probably still in as well. One can give all the PEDs in the world to any non-Trout MLB player they like, but I don’t think any will be as good as those 2/3 were.
I then waiver on Ortiz and Sosa. I was much more Anti-Ortiz before on the grounds that if Edgar was left out, then no way Ortiz should be in, but now I’m turned that corner. I’m probably more pro Ortiz than Sosa just based on postseason and clutch performance.
And despite everything on the field, I’m anti-Schilling. Some of the other guys were jerks, but in retrospect some of that was the media making them a heel (which led them to be more standoffish jerks). Schilling is just outright disgusting and I don’t want him honored in any way.
This is exactly how I feel. Good stuff.
This is where I am starting to fall. That is why guys like Bonds and Clemens I can see voting for. Though I disagree with you on Curt. He said some bad things and he said some things people disagree with.
I feel bad for Larry Walker…he’s either going to barely get in or just miss. It’s unfair he’s very clearly qualified. He may possibly become the first victim of the rule change from 15 to 10 years on the ballot. If he gets close , he’ll probably get in on the Today’s Game ballot. But he shouldn’t need to wait that long.
Best defensive player of the past 30 years (if not more) should easily be in. When you add in offensive stats, Andruw should have walked in with Chipper.
just for kicks, here is the hall rating for everyone on the ballot this year. hall rating works sorta like OPS+, where 100 is a HOF worthy candidate (and someone inducted into the hall of stats). for more info, visit hallofstats.com (i am not affiliated, just a fan of the site):
bonds, 363
clemens, 292
schilling, 172
walker, 151
rolen, 142
ramirez, 130
jeter, 128
a. jones, 127
helton, 120
sosa, 117
sheffield, 116
abreu, 110
pettite, 108
kent, 103
giambi, 94
c. lee, 86
furcal, 72
beckett, 70
vizquel, 69
chavez, 66
wagner, 65
b. roberts, 51
soriano, 50
pena, 42
penny, 38
figgins, 38
putz, 30
ibanez, 28
valverde, 27
dunn, 26
(note, in my mind, the methodology has a notoriously hard time evaluating relievers – rivera has a HR of 130, eck 124, wilhelm 108, gossage 89, hoffman 63, etc)