Joc Pederson’s Taken the Difficult Step
It feels like ages ago, but back when he was a high-level prospect, George Springer was absolutely fascinating. In Springer, the Astros had a phenomenal athlete with almost unparalleled bat speed. But Springer’s game also came with a lot of swinging and missing, whiffs to such a degree that there were real questions about how he’d be able to handle the bigs. You know how this has gone: Springer has established himself as a quality outfielder, after having dramatically improved his contact skills. Getting better at contact is not an easy thing to do, but Springer made himself an outlier, and now he’s a star.
Springer’s big gain came between 2014 and 2015, and this year he’s actually taken another step forward, in terms of getting the bat to the ball. As a rookie, Springer posted baseball’s very lowest contact rate. As a rookie himself, Joc Pederson posted baseball’s sixth-lowest contact rate. There’s long been concern about Pederson’s own ability to make consistent contact. His swings and misses could get exploited, but Springer demonstrated improvement could be possible. And now Pederson is following in Springer’s footsteps.
The Dodgers just lost pretty badly, but Pederson at least did something of note. Facing a good heater in the bottom of the fourth:
One thing you might notice is that Pederson almost knocked himself off balance. No one would ever accuse him of, say, shortening up and swinging at anything less than 100%. But that being said, that’s a quality inside fastball and Pederson turned it completely around. That’s not an easy home run to hit, and it’s a home run he might not have hit a season ago. I’ll get into that, but first, how about an eye-opening rolling-average plot of Pederson’s contact skill?
If you know one thing about contact rate, you know it tends to stay pretty steady. It’s one of those numbers that stabilizes fast, and the way we understand things, there’s generally an inverse relationship between contact and power. You hear about players who sell out for homers. You hear, less often, about players who might do the opposite. Pederson’s contact is up. He hasn’t sacrificed any of his pop. Where Pederson last year hit the ball with two-thirds of his attempted swings, lately he’s been flirting with 80%. Pederson has gone from exploitable in this regard to almost league-average.
Time for perspective! Comparing last year and this year, Pederson is presently sitting on a contact rate that’s gotten better by 10 points. We have 15 years of information, and over that span, there are 3,259 cases of players who have batted at least 250 times in consecutive seasons. Here are the 10 biggest year-to-year gains in contact rate:
| Player | Year 1 | Year 2 | Y1 Contact% | Y2 Contact% | Change |
| Bill Hall | 2004 | 2005 | 69.0% | 79.7% | 10.7% |
| Joc Pederson | 2015 | 2016 | 66.7% | 76.7% | 10.0% |
| Karim Garcia | 2003 | 2004 | 69.5% | 79.2% | 9.7% |
| Austin Kearns | 2006 | 2007 | 74.1% | 83.8% | 9.7% |
| Jason Bay | 2004 | 2005 | 66.8% | 76.5% | 9.7% |
| Jose Cruz | 2005 | 2006 | 69.9% | 79.5% | 9.6% |
| Barry Bonds | 2003 | 2004 | 76.2% | 85.8% | 9.6% |
| Carlos Quentin | 2007 | 2008 | 70.0% | 79.3% | 9.3% |
| Jason Michaels | 2004 | 2005 | 76.3% | 85.5% | 9.2% |
| Mike Sweeney | 2006 | 2007 | 75.7% | 84.7% | 9.0% |
The point isn’t that maybe, just maybe, Joc Pederson could turn into the next Bill Hall. The point is that these gains are extremely rare, and we haven’t seen something of this magnitude in a decade. If you were to expand beyond the top 10, you’d find George Springer in 12th. His contact rate improved 8.5 points. Of note: Miguel Sano is up almost six points. Kris Bryant is up five points. They’ve also faced contact questions, and to some extent they’ve answered them. By this measure, at least, Pederson’s answer is perhaps the most emphatic.
One thing that’s true is that, compared to last year, Pederson now is being platooned more heavily. That does work in his favor, but still, against righties alone, Pederson’s contact rate is up 11 points. And here’s what I find even more striking: Brooks Baseball defines “hard pitches” as fastballs and cutters. Against those hard pitches last year, Pederson made 68% contact. This year he’s at 84%. It hasn’t been nearly so easy to just blow the ball by him, so where Pederson was one run above average against those pitches, now he’s already at +11. He’ll still whiff, and he’ll still whiff against the best heat, but that’s not uncommon for anybody. As a hitter he’s just more complete these days.
Here are Pederson’s contact heat maps against hard pitches. He’s a lefty and these are from the catcher’s perspective, so he’d be standing to the right of these plots.
You can see improvement just about everywhere. Pederson is simply better prepared for fastballs now, and if you look at the inner part of the plate, you can see a big gain, which might have powered his homer against the Pirates on Sunday. Maybe last year he could’ve turned that pitch around. Maybe he would’ve hit it out to center. Pederson didn’t never make good contact inside as a rookie. Just on averages, though, he makes more contact inside, and he also makes better contact inside. As lefties go, Pederson now has top-10 exit velocity against inside pitches, patching what had been a bit of a hole.
Pederson’s swing patterns haven’t budged much. The better overall contact rate is fueled by both better in-zone contact and better out-of-zone contact. Now, you don’t want to make a habit of putting out-of-zone pitches in play, but getting the bat to those balls can help to keep a hitter alive. If you foul one off, it buys you another opportunity. Every pitch matters, as pitch-framing statistics have argued. Something interesting here is that I don’t think Pederson’s actual swing has evolved a lot. Some swings do look shorter than they did last season, but Pederson’s average 2016 swing looks mostly the same. He’s toyed with his leg kick. There have been slight adjustments to the hands. And Pederson did spend the winter looking for a consistent attack. But this looks a lot like just better prep. Pederson still has a big, powerful swing. But if you better understand when a fastball could be coming, you can plan for better timing. You can get around on those pitches in, because you’re braced for them.
I’m sure Pederson could say more about how he’s adjusted over time. His second-half slump was something ugly, and it called for a response, which Pederson spent his offseason constructing. If there are subtle changes, well, there typically are, and Pederson couldn’t afford to do nothing. But he didn’t change the core of his swing. He still has the strength and bat speed that first put him on the radar. Joc Pederson now swings a lot like the Joc Pederson of 2015. He’s just now putting the swing to better use. He’s become a more dangerous threat in the process.
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You mentioned Springer but I would think that J Baez (Cubs) would fit very comfortably on the list that you cited. Was he excluded due to not enough PA? Where would he otherwise rank on that list?
His contact rate is up dramatically since 2014, but this is the first time he’s cleared 250 plate appearances, and he was also missed in the research because last year he batted just 80 times. He’s an excellent example of the same kind of improvement; he just hasn’t done it so clearly year-to-year in the majors is all.
His improvements this year are remarkable. His contact is up, his line drive rate is up, his average is up, his power is up, his exit velocity is better, and his defense is better.
He’s improved in, quite literally, almost every aspect of the game. The only thing that is worse is his walk rate, but 12% is still excellent and he no longer is getting walked to face the pitcher, which seems to have been the difference between this year and last.
From a fantasy perspective, I’m curious as to why his steals dried up
2011: 26
2012: 29
2013: 31
2014: 30
2015: 4
2016: 5
He looked like a shoe-in for a 20/20 and potentially 30/30 down the road.
With only 35 team steals, I guess it could be as simple an explanation as the Dodgers don’t run.
Well for one, his caught rate was real bad in the majors.
Add in the CS numbers to your table and separate the minors from the majors and you get a better picture:
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Minors:
2011: 26 / 5
2012: 29 / 15
2013: 31 / 8
2014: 30 / 13
Majors:
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2015: 4 / 7 ( !!!! )
2016: 5 / 2
Looks like the big leaguers were tossing him out a lot and mgmt gave up. I assume Roberts is more a steals guy than Mattingly for obvious reasons, so perhaps this could change. He has the wheels for it.
That and Pederson hits 7th or 8th in the lineup frequently now, in front of AJ Ellis who bunts or GIDPs frequently and pitchers who bunt or GIDP more frequently.
Seems like Joc is FINALLY hitting in the middle of the order, as he should be.
It’s much, much easier to steal bases in the minor leagues than the major leagues. The two things you’ll always want to check are scouting reports regarding a player’s speed (those generally had Pederson as slightly above average but far from elite) and conversion percentage. Joc was caught stealing pretty frequently in the minor leagues and on three out of four attempts in his first month with the Dodgers, so I imagine that he was instructed to only try in certain situations.
Those same scouting reports also talked about his lack of plus power and lack of ability to play CF – don’t take scouting reports too seriously. #4thOutfielder
raw footspeed is pretty much the easiest thing to scout, though
as someone who watches most dodger games, i’d describe joc’s running speed as slightly above average but far from elite
i saw mattingly quoted somewhere that joc used a “walking lead” to steal bases in the minors that wouldn’t play in the majors. whether that’s the real reason or not i don’t know, but, mattingly said it
All of you added a different piece to the puzzle and my question has definitely been answered. Thanks from an east coast guy who admittedly isn’t in tune with the west coast players as much
Good article.
Got me thinking though, who has headed the most in the other direction with regards to contact rate? I know Freddie Freeman is down nearly 6%, anyone else have a fall off like that?
After reading this article my brain immediately went to Dave swinging too far in the opposite direction in the Trade Value series, but I went back and read it before getting all internet commenty up in here. Realized that Dave is REALLY good at this stuff and wrote up a very reasonable evaluation.
Also great article Jeff!
The million dollar question for me is whether or not he’s going to be allowed to play against lefties next year
Well, I think the million dollar question is this: is he ever going to learn to hit lefties? If he doesn’t, then he’s just another platoon outfielder
Doesn’t look like it yet. He’s at .105 against them so far. Joc+Van Slyke= one very good outfielder (as long as neither hits against the same handed pitcher)
SVS can’t play CF, though.
Only giving him 38 ABs this year against lefties doesn’t help either.
he’s in that classic chicken-or-egg spot right now, where you’re like, how is he gonna ever learn to hit lefties if he’s always platooned. in an ideal world, given the success he’s had making adjustments, as documented by this article, i’d give him some run against them and see what happens. but there’s also the tight pennant race to consider
i’m sorry, the million dollar chicken-or-egg spot
The middle of a pennant race is no time to let someone who hits LHP as poorly as Joc does to be batting against them.
Joc past calendar year: .234/.334/.461 = Colby Rasmus 2.0
Except Colby’s career line is worse, .241/.311/.434, .324 wOBA, 102 wRC+. Pederson has a .341 wOBA and 116 wRC+ the last calendar year. A .360 wOBA and 128 wRC+ this year. And a .341 wOBA and 118 wRC+ for his career.
Isn’t it a little silly to reference a calendar year in response to an article talking about marked improvements over the past few months?
Joe Davis just gave FanGraphs another plug mentioning this article during the Dodgers broadcast.
Potentially buried in that chart: Barry Bonds raising his contact rate by 9.6% at age 39. I knew about the 200+ walks he drew that year, but I never noticed that he only struck out 41 times that year. Wonders unceasing…