Jose Bautista and the 9-3 Putout

To begin:

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Wow. That’s a pretty boring GIF, huh? J.A. Happ threw that pitch and Omar Infante fouled it off. Nothing to see here.

Unless, that is, you already know what happened in this at bat. The Omar Infante in this GIF doesn’t know it quite yet, but something terrible is about to happen to him.

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Now he knows.

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The dreaded right field to first base putout. The 9-3. A hitter’s nightmare. A scorer’s dream. It probably happened to you in Little League. It definitely happened to me in Little League. It’s so bad that you pray it never happens again. Especially if you make it to the majors and it’s broadcast on national television. What could be more embarrassing than hitting a ball cleanly to the outfield, in what would be a hit 99% of the time, only to have your lack of speed exposed for all to see by getting gunned at first base?

Except Omar Infante isn’t slow, which makes this perhaps even more embarrassing. Infante has hit thousands of foul balls in his career and even more that stayed fair. He should have a pretty good grasp of what’s going to be fair or foul off the bat. But here, for some reason, Infante assumed incorrectly immediately upon making contact that the ball he hit was going foul, despite the fact that it really wasn’t even close to being foul. Jose Bautista knew better, made a great sliding stop and came up firing to first without hesitation. Unlike Omar Infante, Bautista knew exactly what he was doing. It’s almost like he has experience making 9-3 putouts…

butler

This happened the night before to Infante’s teammate Billy Butler. And Butler was trying. This is the less unusual way for one of the more unusual events in baseball to occur. This is Billy Butler, a very slow man, hitting a hard line drive to a right fielder with a very good arm. The strong-armed man understood the limitations of the slow-footed man and exploited and embarrassed him in the process.

To the naked eye, this appears to be the more traditional way for a 9-3 putout to occur. But that doesn’t stop it from being absolutely remarkable for a couple of reasons.

First, just look how deep Bautista is playing. He had to come in, like, six steps before he even fielded the ball. Next, remember that the same player – Jose Bautista – recorded a 9-3 putout in consecutive nights. To put that into context, there have only been 29 instances of a 9-3 putout occurring since 1990, according to research done by Baseball Prospectus. Since 2000, it has only happened 19 times, according to research done by me. This is something that happens, on average, about once per year. The same guy did it on back-to-back nights to the same team. What makes it even more remarkable is that they were both done to position players.

Consider this table of 9-3 putouts that have occurred since the year 2000:

Year Fielder Runner Position
2014 Jose Bautista Omar Infante 2B
2014 Jose Bautista Billy Butler DH
2014 Gerardo Parra Dan Haren P
2012 Carlos Beltran Josh Beckett P
2011 Jayson Werth Edward Mujica P
2011 Jeff Francoeur Michael Taylor OF
2010 Ryan Sweeney Mike Redmond C
2010 Roger Bernadina Roy Oswalt P
2010 Hunter Pence Mike Minor P
2010 Angel Pagan Kyle Kendrick P
2007 Luke Scott Derek Lowe P
2003 Rene Reyes Jimmy Haynes P
2002 Gabe Kapler John Patterson P
2002 B.J. Surhoff Jeff D’Amico P
2000 Brian Jordan Garrett Stephenson P
2000 Mark Kotsay Elmer Dessens P
2000 Brian Jordan Francisco Cordova P
2000 Brian Jordan Clayton Andrews P
2000 Lance Berkman Luis Ordaz SS

Notice anything about this table?

Well, first, if FanGraphs and MLB.TV and Photoshop CS6 were around 14 years ago, this post would totally be about Brian Jordan because what the hell was going on with him in the year 2000.

But notice anything else about this table?

Position players don’t really get thrown out from right field. It’s almost exclusively pitchers. This makes sense. Pitchers just need to be able to throw a ball. They don’t need to be able to run the bases, jump, dive or cover ground in the field. The percentage of pitchers who are speedy, athletic specimens is much lower than the percentage of position players who are speedy, athletic specimens. The even bigger reason, though, is that pitchers just can’t hit, so outfielders play closer to the infield, making 9-3 putouts all the more likely.

In 2011, Michael Taylor, an outfielder, got thrown out at first by Jeff Francoeur, who is known for his strong arm. In 2010, Mike Redmond, a really slow catcher, was thrown out at first by Ryan Sweeney. After that, you have to go back a full decade to Luis Ordaz, a shortstop, being gunned by Lance Berkman in 2000 to find another position player being thrown out at first base from right field. Again: Jose Bautista did this twice in consecutive days.

And even Redmond’s was more the result of defensive positioning than it was just getting gunned:

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Not only were the bases loaded, but in Mike Redmond’s 13-year career, he hit exactly 13 home runs, so the outfield probably wasn’t too worried about a ball going over their heads. The defensive alignment Redmond saw from the outfield is not too different from the one most pitchers see, so this example barely even counts as a position player being thrown out.

As for the Michael Taylor one, I’m still not totally sure how this happened:

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I guess you can just chalk it up to Jeff Francoeur having a really great arm and Michael Taylor hitting the ball too hard. Francoeur doesn’t seem to be playing too shallow, which makes sense because Michael Taylor is pretty fast and has some pop in his bat. Taylor maybe gets out of the box a little slow, but this is just a great play by Jeff Francoeur. (Yes you did just read that sentence on FanGraphs).

So, before Thursday night, you could go back 14 years and find exactly three examples of a position player being thrown out at first base from right field. It happened to Mike Redmond because the bases were loaded, he’s really slow and can’t hit, so he was being played like a pitcher. It happened to Michael Taylor because he took a second to get out of the box and Jeff Francoeur has a really strong arm. And it happened to Luis Ordaz, though I can’t say exactly how because there’s no video footage of it.

On Thursday night, Bautista just straight up gunned Billy Butler and the following night, capitalized on a mental error by Omar Infante to record two 9-3 putouts on non-pitchers in two games. Jose Bautista himself did in two nights what only three players have done in the last 14 years.

As if the Royals offense wasn’t sad enough already, now they can’t even hit a ball cleanly to the outfield without Jose Bautista making them feel like little leaguers again.





August used to cover the Indians for MLB and ohio.com, but now he's here and thinks writing these in the third person is weird. So you can reach me on Twitter @AugustFG_ or e-mail at august.fagerstrom@fangraphs.com.

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Chris
12 years ago

If memory serves, that would have been Michael Taylor’s first major league base hit.

BenH
12 years ago

It would’ve been Mike Minor’s first hit and rbi though.

j6takish
12 years ago

Sean casey was once victim of the even more bizarre 7-3 putout

LHPSU
12 years ago
Reply to  j6takish

That was mostly a case of the left fielder mishandling the ball and Casey thinking that it was caught and not running to first base.

Bill
12 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

nah, it was a liner he thought was caught by joe crede, the third baseman for the white sox. he kinda wandered back to the dugout before realizing it had deflected off crede’s glove and into the outfield, and by that point, it was too late

matt w
12 years ago
Reply to  Bill

So a 5-7-3 putout, really.

Yirmiyahu
12 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Run of the mill 5-7-3

RunTeddyRun
12 years ago
Reply to  Bill

The fabled Prime Putout! I’m counting 1 and 2 because the battery is involved in every play ever. 1-2 are doing their thing, and then 5-7-3 takes care of the rest.

matt w
12 years ago
Reply to  Bill

1 isn’t prime!

BipMember since 2016
12 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Also, if he put the ball in play, the ball never touched the catcher, so you can’t really say 2 was involved.

Johnston
12 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Matt’s right; 1 fails the prime test two different ways.

BananaMonster
12 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

I had the pleasure of meeting Casey a few years back, he told me that is one of his favorite funny baseball stories to tell.

e&n4e
12 years ago
Reply to  j6takish

Cespedes hit in a 7-6-3 put-out in Seattle earlier this year. Soft line drive that the LF caught but dropped before transfer…

neither OAK nor SEA realised the UMP called it drop ball. so Ackley lobed it back to SS, but cespedes never ran either…easy out at 1B when someone finally realised what was happening

Bobby Ayala
12 years ago
Reply to  e&n4e

Any bizarre/rare put outs from the first month of this season will forever have an asterix denoting the DTR (Dumb Transfer Rule) period.

Bryan Cole
12 years ago

I wonder how much the Butler one was helped by the speed of the Rogers Centre turf. You hear about lots of grounders that might be outs on a grass surface that sneak through the holes on turf; what if Butler’s would-be single scooted out to Bautista faster than usual, giving him a shot at the 9-3?

Bautista still had to make two very impressive throws, of course, but the playing surface might have helped.

soupman
12 years ago
Reply to  Bryan Cole

it was a one-hopper. so i don’t think the turf was a factor.

Blinzler
12 years ago
Reply to  soupman

Or it would’ve been a more-than-one-hopper on gras. So the turf would’ve been a factor…

yeah
12 years ago
Reply to  Blinzler

Butler was out by a stride so I don’ think it was a factor

Jon L.
12 years ago
Reply to  soupman

Turf affects the speed of one hop. Sometimes a lot.

maximillion
12 years ago
Reply to  Jon L.

I really can’t believe it was a factor, and you can plug in some numbers and see it with some easy math.

The closer Jose was to the ball when it landed, the more negligible the effect of turf is. So suppose Jose was 30 feet behind the ball when it landed (he looks closer to me).

Now suppose that they had been on grass, and that the ball was travelling 40mph after it bounced. That’s roughly 60 feet per second (fps), so the ball reaches Jose in 1/2 of a second.

If the turf increases the speed of the ball after the bounce by an extra 20mph (which is way too much, I would think), then the ball would be travelling 60mph. This is roughly 90fps, so in this case the ball reaches Jose in 1/3 of a second.

So the turf gets the ball to Jose 0.17 seconds faster, a negligible effect. Of course I would have overestimated the general speeds of a one-hopper, or something else, but I don’t think it would have made a difference what stadium they were in.

Cliff
12 years ago
Reply to  Jon L.

Negligable? It takes 4-4.5 seconds for the hitter to go from home plate to first. .17 seconds might well be an entire stride.

maximillion
12 years ago
Reply to  Jon L.

@cliff

Fair enough, although I meant negligible in this case cause he looked out by more than .17 seconds to me (although I lack the technology to verify that).

An extra 20mph is an obvious exaggeration though, and I suspect that a one-hopper travels a lot faster than 40mph. These are extremes, and point was that the turf couldn’t realistically speed up a ball over 30 feet enough to make Butler safe here.

For instance, do the same calculation the ball travelling 60mph on grass and 70mph on the turf, and you get the ball reaching Jose 0.04 seconds faster.

grant
12 years ago

I hear he can hit a little too, this Bautista guy might be good.

tz
12 years ago

Wonder if the Marlins’ manager would play his RF way in when a slow, powerless catcher is at the plate?

Hurtlocker
12 years ago

I remember Willie Mays throwing a guy out at first on a line drive to center back in the 60’s. I think the batter stumbled and fell out of the batters box and Mays threw him out easily. Might have been Richie Allen, but I wouldn’t swear to that.

Schuxu
12 years ago

Quick, somebody hide this from Joe Posnanski!

joser
12 years ago
Reply to  Schuxu

If it causes him to write about it, then I’d want to read that, so don’t hide it. Of course, if it’s the final straw that takes him from abject Royals masochist to suicide, certainly hide it. But given everything he’s seen so far, I doubt this could bring him to that point.

Schuxu
12 years ago

And why don’t we have video footage of the action between the 3 Infante visuals? The expression on his face is already very good but to see him in the whole sequence would be great.

steex
12 years ago

Watching that video, for some reason I can’t get over the call in that video. The sound of disappointment as he sees Bautista won’t make the catch, immediately replaced by pure joy when he makes the throw.

“There’s a little flare down the right field line, Bautista in a hurry, he’s not gonna make the play. But he goes to first base, what a play!”

joser
12 years ago
Reply to  steex

Buck Martinez, everybody.

Jordan
12 years ago
Reply to  steex

I’m a Jays fan and whatever anyone else says in our fanbase about Buck, I love him. He parrots typical old school shit like most other announcers but his delayed excitement on plays like this coupled with his drunken mumbles are awesome.
Plus this call:
http://m.mlb.com/video/v14062635/tbtor-mcdonald-belts-a-walkoff-shot-in-the-11th
That sort of ineptitude is better than anything correctly executed ever.

Zack Murphy
12 years ago

Jose Bautista’s expression at the moment of his ball-grab is also priceless. It’s a hell of a pop-up-and-throw, but the short-hopping of that ball appears slightly accidental.

joser
12 years ago
Reply to  Zack Murphy

I’m pretty sure he thought the ball was going to bounce up into his face. The turf at Rogers makes everybody a little gun shy

Nymike
12 years ago

Never realized I have better chance to see a triple play in a game or a no hitter than a 9 to 3 putout. Unlikely events I witnessed in person at a game were home runs by Luis Castillo and Endy Chavez, also double tag out by Paul LoDuca at a playoff game, anybody knows how frequent are double putouts by a catcher?

FrankDrakman
12 years ago
Reply to  Nymike

You could ask Buck Martinez for input on that question.

Alex
12 years ago

Mike Minor’s was in his first career AB

primantis
12 years ago

I saw Jose Guillen do this in person in a game in Pittsburgh with the Pirates, probably in 97 or 98.

yeah
12 years ago

what a play, what a cannon!!

everdiso
12 years ago

The UZR ratings for the jays so far are all sorts of messed up. Sure bautista has only average range and takes the odd bad route, but those parts of his game are average at worst, while his arm is one of the best in baseball. How he comes out with an awful UZR is beyond me. And how Lawrie only comes out with a mediocre UZR at 3B, when his range and arm are elite, is also mysterious. And the masive negative for rasmus and melky are questionable too.

Especially since the team ERA lines up near perfectly with its FIP and xFIP, the team’s babip against us also average, as is the number of unearned runs allowed.

Either uzr is way, way off so far or due for a massive correction as the sample grows, imo.

everdiso
12 years ago
Reply to  everdiso

Check that – looks like todays updated UZR today shows a pretty massive correction, cutting the team’s negative dwar in half from -13.5 to -6.8. Lawrie gets a nice boost, as does melky and a bunch of the part timers. Bautista’s bug negative is still low though, imo.

But i guess it mostly is just an SSS issue here that was giving a mediocre defensive team awful ratings across the board.

arc
12 years ago
Reply to  everdiso

“I don’t understand how this works, so something must be wrong with it.”

everdiso
12 years ago
Reply to  arc

Yup arc, anyone who questions specific uzr ratings just doesn’t get it.

arc
12 years ago
Reply to  everdiso

I didn’t say or imply that. But my prior is very different when e.g. unknown commenter asks a question about UZR than it is when a wildly irrational Jays homer well-known for nonsense doesn’t question UZR at all, but instead asserts “Either uzr is way, way off so far or due for a massive correction”.

everdiso
12 years ago
Reply to  everdiso

not sure I follow. Though I was pretty clearly questioning UZR.

As for the choice between uzr being way, way off or due for a massive correction, looks like the 2nd choice was true, thus the Jays negative defensve value being chopped in half from last week to this week.

Timmy
12 years ago
Reply to  arc

Well, it proves that everdiso was right, because out of nowhere the UZRs for the Blue Jays bizarrely drastically changed in the positive direction.

everdiso
12 years ago
Reply to  Timmy

Well not “bizarre” this early in the year but i’m glad to see the big adjustment closer to what i’ve been seeing on the field.

Yirmiyahu
12 years ago
Reply to  everdiso

Bautista has a +1.5 UZR in RF, and had positive numbers there in 2013 (+5.5) and 2012 (+1.0) as well. The negative numbers are from 3B and CF. Speaking of which: why has he played 40 innings in CF this year anyway?

everdiso
12 years ago
Reply to  Yirmiyahu

He actually hasn’t played 3b this year.

The emergency cf duty came up because the team was infatuated with esmil rogers, even though they were too scared to use him, so they maintained an 8 man bullpen for weeks. Even when it left them with a two man bench when colby first got hurt, but nit bad enough for a dl stint.

Good note on the positive rating in rf, though. That makes more sense. Still a little surprising that 40 bad innings at one of the toughest defensive positions can sabotage his 450 positive innings in rf so badly that he ends up with a -3.3dwar…but at least his rf rating makes sense, even if his place on the war leaderboards is suspect.

BipMember since 2016
12 years ago
Reply to  everdiso

DEFENSIVE VALUE RATINGS ON THE PLAYER PAGE DASHBOARD ARE DEFENSIVE VALUE + POSITIONAL ADJUSTMENT

Right field has a negative positional adjustment, so an average right fielder would still have a negative number in that field. Bautista’s UZR/150 games is about 5, so he’s expected to be about 5 runs better than the average RF. He’ll still have a slightly negative score due to positional adjustment though.

BipMember since 2016
12 years ago
Reply to  Bip

I’m not typing in all caps to patronize anybody, I just see this misunderstanding so often I want everyone to understand what it’s actually saying.

everdiso
12 years ago
Reply to  Bip

Sure, but having an above average RF be on pace for -10 defensive value still seems odd.

BipMember since 2016
12 years ago
Reply to  everdiso

Yeah, it looks like a combination of defensive penalty a terrible rating for the time he was in CF. According to UZR, his CF was so bad, it was worth -2.2 runs alone. Then his RF play so far has been with 1.5 runs, for -0.7 on the season. Then, according to this link, right field is worth -7.5 runs per season, so in about 1/3 season you would expect Bautista to have accumulated about -2.5 runs by positional adjustment, which brings his season total to about -3.3.

I would say you may have a point, in that -2.2 runs for just 40 innings in CF is pretty harsh. I didn’t watch him though, so I don’t know how bad he really was.

joser
12 years ago
Reply to  everdiso

It’s only odd if you don’t understand the purpose and use of positional adjustments.

everdiso
12 years ago
Reply to  everdiso

meh, basically Bautista’s WAR is unduly sabotaged by the fact that he was forced to play CF a few days.

but beyond that, it was reassuring to see the massive correction in the Jays’ overall UZR ratings this week. makes more sense now than it did looking at it last night.

gabrielthursday
12 years ago
Reply to  Bip

One more reason why it’s idiotic to have the “defensive value” on the dashboard. Who holds in their head the positional adjustment for second base over 47 games? or, as here, the positional adjustment for four games in center and 52 in right? Defensive value tells us almost nothing about defensive performance. It would be much better if we had UZR back on the dashboard.

Foghorn Leghorn
12 years ago

I think the turf is a non-small factor here. I think Butler was beaten by less than 0.2 seconds. What seems to be overlooked here is the first basemen in the Butler BIP. He busts his ass to get to first, probably harder than on a routine GB. Its harder to see in the other videos, but the 1B plays a crucial role – he has to play it like there will be a play at first, and I think *that’s* got to lead to fewer plays than “expected”.

WRT to Brian Jordan, he and Galarraga may have had some good expectations. How often did Jordan throw there and *not* get the runner?

Mac
12 years ago

Michael Taylor, what an amazing disappointment.

Brian
12 years ago

Is DH a position? Butler’s typical position, I think, is horizontal, or perhaps just reclined.

Anonymous
12 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Was going to make this post, but I’ll piggyback on your thought. Are we truly to the point where we’re comfortable calling a DH a ‘position player’?

The NL curmudgeon in me positively quivers with rage.

joser
12 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

It’s a position in exactly the same way zero is a number. And yes, we have “position players” and we have “pitchers” and that distinction is useful enough to overcome whatever quivering it might inspire.

rustynailer
12 years ago

Awesome piece.

gabrielthursday
12 years ago

I actually believe Bautista has a good chance of nailing another guy at first this season. He looks like he’s been on the lookout for these opportunities, and he now has the proven ability.

Umpire Weekend
12 years ago

You gotta think that some potential 9-3 putouts fail to happen because the first baseman doesn’t bother to move onto the first-base bag once the ball goes past him into RF.

Especially with nobody on (ie, not covering for a possible DP like the ball Infante hit)

Jason
12 years ago

Brian Jordan did it 3 times in 2000. Wow.

BipMember since 2016
12 years ago

9-3 putouts: The new market inefficiency.

Joel
12 years ago

Andre Dawson did this a few times with the Cubs, the only times I ever saw it other then highlights.

bob
12 years ago

Butler was recently almost thrown out at third going first to third on a double to left, in a situation where he was running on contact. The batter was at second before Butler got to third.

Andy
12 years ago

I think these plays require the first baseman to NOT rush to the bag, allowing the batter to maintain assumption that there’s no play likely at first for an extra moment

Torgen
12 years ago
Reply to  Andy

OTOH the first baseman should be near the bag in case the runner takes a wide turn so there’s a chance to tag them out coming back.

Schuxu
12 years ago
Reply to  Andy

Prety sure the hitter is having his eyes on the ball and the RF so he will recognize what is going to happen regardless the actions of the 1B.

Swfcdan
12 years ago

The GIFs dont work properly on ipads, make everything jumpy. Usually they work ok on this site so there seems to be an error with it. Just a heads up.

HughGRexion
12 years ago

Dan Haren, caught for the second time this year (this time by Nate Schierholz). Run, Forest! Run!

joe
11 years ago

We had a 9 1 put out in high school game last week..first baseman laid out for hit to rightfield our pitcher covered first base…