Justin Turner Is a Return to Normalcy in Boston’s Turbulent Offseason

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During the offseason, teams largely split into three groups. The first are the big spenders, teams that are aware of the holes on their roster and make aggressive efforts to patch them. Next are the more thrifty clubs, ones who dedicate themselves to marginal upgrades – signing a reliever here, a fourth outfielder there, often single-handedly dictating the market for the middle tier of free agents and below. Last are the window shoppers, who for some reason whiff on every single free agent despite having “tried their best.” That’s generally ownership-speak for “I don’t really wanna spend,” but I digress. The point is, teams are somewhat predictable, and the moves they make are indicative of their internal situation.

This offseason, the Red Sox have defied such categorization. As a big market team, it seemed they would focus on retaining their star shortstop (or at least replacing him with a similarly talented infielder) and bolstering their rotation. One month later, Xander Bogaerts is a San Diego Padre, and Boston has yet to add a starting pitcher; Nathan Eovaldi, who rejected a qualifying offer, remains in free agency limbo. These aren’t omissions typical of a team of their stature, which calls into question the Red Sox’s goals for next season and beyond.

Are they planning on tearing it down? That doesn’t seem likely, given that they signed Chris Martin and Kenley Jansen to two-year contracts. So are they a thrifty spender, intent on being neither a contender nor an intentionally terrible mess? Probably not, because they signed Masataka Yoshida to a deal that blew even the most optimistic projections out of the water. It’s confusing indeed. If I had to place the Red Sox into an offseason bucket, it’d be the throw-anything-at-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks group. Population: one.

But hold on! The Red Sox have once again gone off script, this time by signing a free agent who… makes perfect sense. Justin Turner is headed to Boston, as first reported by Joon Lee this weekend. Later, Ken Rosenthal revealed the details: The deal is for two years and $21.7 million, but only if Turner exercises a player option for 2024. If he doesn’t, he’ll receive $15 million. There are also performance bonuses for 2023 based on how many plate appearances he accumulates, capping out at $1 million.

The logic behind this is simple. J.D. Martinez’s recent departure left the Red Sox without, well, a designated designated hitter. They also didn’t have many options at first base, where Turner is expected to contribute as well. The 38-year-old third baseman may not be the adroit defender he once was, but his bat, albeit in a diminished state, is still useful. He could also help give Rafael Devers time off from third base, and any sort of positional flexibility is good. And if there’s anything Moneyball taught us, it’s that while playing first is incredibly hard, there’s nothing offseason reps and a confidence boost can’t handle.

Comparisons between Martinez and Turner are unavoidable. It’s tempting to assert that one represents an upgrade or a downgrade over the other, but I don’t think an apples-to-apples approach is warranted here. The two are similar in terms of their age and what role they’ll play for their new teams, just not offensive profiles. Martinez is the prototypical slugger – he has the edge in exit velocity, but makes contact less frequently. Meanwhile, Turner compensates for his good but not great power by putting the ball in play and chasing fewer pitches outside the zone. It’s unclear which approach will hold up better going forward. The rapid declines of Albert Pujols and Chris Davis, I think, have given baseball fans the impression that fly ball mashers succumb faster to Father Time. But contact rate also declines rapidly with age, and so does chase rate. In general, though, it makes sense to peg Martinez and Turner for roughly the same degree of production.

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If anything, Turner should lean harder into his line drive tendencies. For Turner, the biggest effect of his age doesn’t show up in traditional box scores, or even on this site: He’s lost is a massive amount of exit velocity on his fly balls. A fly ball with enough strength behind it is a home run; a fly ball with not quite enough strength behind it is an easy out. And over the years, Turner has lost more and more of that crucial gusto. To wit, when he hit a line drive last season, he averaged a monstrous 393 wRC+. But that number quickly drops to 83 on fly balls, then to a mere 34 on groundballs (he’s as slow as molasses, you see). That line drives are not only Turner’s bread and butter, but also his only food source, explains his extended slump in the first half of 2022:

It’s about as clear of a correlation as you’ll ever see. When Turner hit far more fly balls and groundballs than line drives, he looked like a goner, and Dodgers fans were understandably upset about it. But after rediscovering his swing sometime in July, a revitalized Turner started absolutely destroying baseballs. There’s a way for Turner to look like his prime self, and there’s only one way for Turner to look like his prime self. That’s either a pleasant or uncomfortable realization, depending on your perspective: Imparting just enough backspin to a ball is what Turner does best, but it’s also super difficult and not always reliable. At the very least, Fenway Park has long been an excellent place for righty hitters to produce doubles. In choosing to leave the Dodgers, Turner does find himself in a more favorable offensive environment. Whether he can leverage it is another matter.

From a fan’s perspective, a reunion with his longtime team would have been ideal. It’s with the Dodgers that Turner found his signature uppercut stroke, and it’s with the Dodgers that he left a string of iconic moments, including a walk-off homer in Game 2 of the 2017 NLCS. His outstretched arms are now embedded in Dodger history, as is his ginger mane. Turner was one of the last vestiges of a bygone era of Dodger baseball; with his departure, only Clayton Kershaw remains as definitive proof of its existence. This winter, rookie players such as James Outman and Miguel Vargas will populate the roster, providing different looks and different talents. It’s the beginning of something new. And while Turner could have been a part of it, he would have eventually passed his torch one way or another.

The Red Sox had a stronger motivation to pursue Turner, and that might have been the difference-maker. Despite landing on a lower AAV than what the public estimated, Turner can choose to play major league baseball until 2024, with his time on the field more or less guaranteed. He’s not an impact signing, but he’s nonetheless a great fit for the Red Sox. Based on their confusing, disappointing, and much-discussed offseason, it’s easy to lump this signing in with everything else: a pile of missed opportunities and seemingly inexplicable decisions. But Turner shouldn’t be a punchline to jokes about Boston’s ineptitude. He remains a good hitter despite his elder status and should help the Red Sox in meaningful ways. In a vacuum, there’s virtually nothing to dislike about his arrival. As they say: Don’t hate the player, hate the game.





Justin is an undergraduate student at Washington University in St. Louis studying statistics and writing.

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
3 years ago

The subtitle says it is a return to normalcy, but I don’t think that’s it. Bloom has emphasized short term deals for since he took over. This is right in line with his philosophy; constant roster turnover of guys on short term deals to keep from getting bogged down with bad contracts while still keeping the team from being obviously bad. This is absolutely in line with throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I agree, and yet don’t really see a problem with it, this offseason. The AL East is a juggernaut. Boston could spend their way into a wild-card, or…luck their way into a wild-card. They still have little pitching, even if they re-sign Eovaldi.

People dump on Bloom for the Rays-like approach, but I don’t see how that is a bad idea for 2023.

The real bad idea was the Betts trade, but that’s in the past. I think Bogaerts gets exposed by the lack of shift, so it made sense for him to walk, especially with Mayer in the wings and Story around. So Turner is the DH? I worry they’ll trade Devers and put Turner at third.

Also, I don’t get why multiple Fangraphs writers seem to forget that Tristan Casas exists.

connjc
3 years ago

Mixed feeling between head and my heart. Applaud the Dodgers for their prudent ways this offseason but I still absolutely hate losing Turner. Head says I understand his bat speed has declined and he has trouble catching up to velocity, but my heart would probably watch him swing through meat fastballs as long as he wants in a Dodgers uniform.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
3 years ago

I also want to provide what I think is the worst case possibility. I’m not saying this is what happened, but I think there is a real possibility anyway–maybe a 35% chance:

Why did Justin Turner decide to sign with Boston instead of with the Dodgers, Marlins, Twins, or D-Backs–other teams that were known to be involved? It is reported that he had bigger, multi-year offers on the table. At 38 years old, that matters. But instead he took a deal worth less money, with a team that isn’t really contending for a championship or even the division title, that is as far in distance as possible from his SoCal roots, and with a front office whose recent history involves trading players at midseason.

This seems like the worst possible combination for a free agent with options? I think the key is the opt-out. It gives him security to come back if he is hurt, but if he re-establishes himself he can try again. And what would help more than anything to help him re-establish himself? Hitting well is the primary thing, and maybe he thinks for some reason playing half his game in Fenway will juice his stats (maybe?). But the other thing that would help him re-establish value is letting him play third base. If he can prove that he can still handle 3B, he’s valuable even if he continues declining offensively. And that’s something the Twins, Dodgers, and D-Backs probably have no interest in (and maybe the Marlins too). And the Red Sox…why would the Red Sox promise to get him a lot of reps at third base if they already have Rafael Devers…uh oh…what if they don’t have Rafael Devers?

Again, I’m not saying this is even got a better than 50% chance of being true. But we’ll know if it is right if (1) the Sox do trade Devers and (2) they don’t do anything to bring in another third baseman and turn it over to Turner.

steveo
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

If the Red Sox trade Devers they will basically be giving up on 2023 and pray they can squeak into that last wildcard spot. It would be unforgivable to not pay Devers after letting two all-star, future HOFers walk. If you’re not going to pay your 26 year old franchise player, who *are* you going to pay? But you bring up a good point.. why would Turner sign there without a good promise of playing time? Then again DH is wide open and I’m sure they’ll sit Casas against some tough lefties and they’ll want to DH Devers a good bit. I guess we’ll find out soon enough but I’ll be shocked if they trade him.

KervinMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I know you caveated this as saying you think there’s maybe a 35% chance of this being what happened/is happening. But I just really don’t think this would make any sense.

From Turner’s perspective: Promising a lot of 3b reps would have such wild implications for their plans with Devers that i can’t imagine they would talk about it openly. And if they did, would Turner really take that promise to the bank? What if they end up extending Devers (they have the money and say they want to). Chad Jennings has already reported a source with the Red Sox that Turner will be a 1B/DH for 2023.

And Turner will be 39 in 2024. I just don’t know how much playing some 3b in 2023 is going to budge the needle for teams. He’s reaching an age where teams are just always going to be skeptical that they can rely on him for health and defense.

From Boston’s perspective: In the scenario where the Red Sox decide to trade Devers for prospects midseason they’d be giving up on 2023 playoff hopes, and they’d likely be trying to get under the luxury tax. They did not get under the threshold in 2022, and will be close to it again. Why would their backup plan for 3B in this scenario be a veteran making nearly the same as Devers? (MLB Trade Rumors projects $16.9m in 2023 for Raffy).

KervinMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Kervin

Also, just to add: I disagree with the characterization of the front office as having a recent history of trading players (away) midseason. Last year they traded Christian Vazquez and Jake Diekman, but added Pham, Hosmer, and McGuire and notably didn’t trade Bogaerts/JDM/Eovaldi (it was a little bit difficult for fans to get on board with it, but the idea was they were somewhere around 1/3 playoff odds at FG, and the front office said in interviews they thought that wasn’t something they wanted to totally punt on).

In 2021 they bought at the deadline (Schwarber), in 2020 they traded away Mitch Moreland and Heath Hembree. 2019 is the Dombrowski era.

Probably not key to your point here, but I just didn’t think that sounded right to me.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Kervin

I think the motivation for trading Devers is the prospects they would get back. I can imagine the Phillies or Angels or Marlins deciding to trade for him. And the motivation for signing Turner is that he can still hit and thus would keep the team from being actually bad, which is clearly one of Bloom’s goals. He clearly doesn’t want the team to win fewer than, say, 75 games.

That said, if a source is reporting Turner is going to be a 1B/DH, that obviously cuts this down even further.

Last edited 3 years ago by sadtrombone
Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Forget prospects!

They should use Devers to salary dump Chris Sale to a contender.

I’m pretty sure the Dodgers have an opening at 3B…

sadtromboneMember since 2020
3 years ago

Wow that really would be the worst case scenario, wouldn’t it?

Devers and Sale for Alec Bohm, Michael Plassmeyer, Johan Rojas and Ethan Wilson.

Devers and Sale for Alex Kirilloff, Jordan Balazovic, Austin Martin, and and Aaron Sabato.

Devers and Sale for Eduardo Escobar, Jose Butto, James McCann, and enough money to cover all of McCann’s contract.

You can see it, can’t you?

My favorite one would definitely be Devers and Sale for Yoan Moncada and Michael Kopech, but that one was extremely unlikely before and there’s no way that happens now that Benintendi is on board since the White Sox don’t want to hit the luxury tax.

Brock244
3 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Oh come on lol

Turner is 38 and is pretty clearly going to be the JD replacement, who can occasionally spend some time at 1B (where Casas is still unproven) and 3b (to get Devers some rest here and there)

Again but take on Devers is this: the red Sox will pay him. It’s a completely different scenario with Bogaerts and Betts and there’s no rational argument for not paying him.

If they don’t pay him , Bloom will likely be fired

Last edited 3 years ago by Brock244
steveo
3 years ago
Reply to  Brock244

I’m sure Bloom wanted to pay Betts and Bogaerts but ownership didn’t want to. A contract of that size is an ownership decision more than a GM decision. If Devers walks, it’ll be because the owners don’t want to pay him and they’ll be fine with it.

The Stranger
3 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Wouldn’t put it past them to tell Bloom he doesn’t have the budget to extend Devers, then throw him under the bus for it.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  The Stranger

I mean this is an exploration of the most cynical timeline so this would fit right in.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Bloom signed Story, then turned around and offered Bogaerts an extension at a lower number.

He offered Mookie 10% less than Harper had gotten the previous offseason, and 30% less than what Trout had just gotten.

He might just, y’know, be bad at this.

LesVegetables
3 years ago

Turner fits the team really nicely. It’s like if you rolled JD’s bat and Dalbec’s positional flexibility into one person. It’s a solid move.

Like all of Bloom’s moves though, in a vacuum it makes sense, but in the context of where the team is I am not sure I follow it. The Red Sox payroll will be high again in 2023, but it’s all spread out among a bunch of question marks – Sale, Whitlock, Kike, Turner, Yoshida, various relievers. It’s a hodgepodge of guys who could be good but who could also be pretty bad. And if the latter happens you are talking about another $200 million last place finish.

cnordhielm
3 years ago

Not sure whether Turner hits fastballs or off-speed stuff, but if it’s the latter this is a good move. A lot of fly balls carry over the green monster leaving Turner (based on the article) in a good place. If he hits line drives, his skill set ages well for any team. If he hits fly balls and can pull them, they don’t need to be hit that hard in Boston.

Groundout
3 years ago

This would have made a lot of sense if this was the Red Sox’s only hole, but they’ve got many, and that context is also important with this deal.

They just (obviously) lost a middle infielder. Segura’s projected to be worth about a win more than Turner and is probably available at around this price.

They have the worst rotation of any playoff hopeful, and bringing Eovaldi back could sure help that.

If they’re not addressing all of their holes, I would have liked to see a little more explanation as to why Turner is better than these other possible moves. (And if this is their last move … it’s still a pretty confusing offseason for them.)

darren
3 years ago
Reply to  Groundout

Why can’t they also add those players?

proiste
3 years ago
Reply to  darren

Yeah, this deal isn’t anywhere near the magnitude where it would rule those out …

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Groundout

Are they a playoff hopeful, though?

darren
3 years ago

It’s weird. It seems like the Red Sox have really dropped the ball (and they have in many ways) but they look like they will be improved at most positions next year, especially corner OF and 1B (exceptions: SS and maybe C and 2B). Their bullpen was terrible and is greatly improved. Their rotation was a mish-mash of vets and younger starters which also seems to be a tick better in 2023 (and they’re also expected to add a starter). All that adds up to mid-80s wins.

Brock244
3 years ago
Reply to  darren

Their biggest improvement will come from within:

Full season of Bello and Casas. More games from Story (and hopefully a bounce back with the bat) And more innings from Sale and Paxton.

The pen is better, too. That said, they weren’t that good last year + lost arguably their best player (Bogaerts), so a lot will have to go right.

That’s why I’m in favor of loading up on vets to raise the floor, so if some of those high variance guys swing their way, they have a chance to contend. (Can add Yoshida and Whitlock to high variance guys too)

However, they desperately need a SP and a middle infielder

Last edited 3 years ago by Brock244
Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Brock244

Entering 2022, Trevor Story’s career line outside of Coors was .241/.310/.442, with a 8.3 BB%, a 30.6 K%, and a .317 BABIP, good for a .321 wOBA and a 98 wRC+.

In 2022, Story’s line outside of Coors was .238/.303/.434, with a 8.1 BB%, a 30.8 K%, and a .309 BABIP, good for a .316 wOBA and a 100 wRC+.

But maybe moving to SS full time will help with the chronic arm problems?

Brock244
3 years ago

Using coors split? Lol come on

Story put up 2.5 WAR in 94 games last season. That a 4-4.5 WAR pace despite not hitting particularly well. His defense and base running will always give him a ~2.5-3 win floor.

If his bat returns to something like a 115 wRC+ Range then he’s probably a 5 win player

Getting a full season of him is probably pretty important.

Last edited 3 years ago by Brock244
darren
3 years ago
Reply to  Brock244

I come down somewhere between you two. I’m concerned that 100ish wRC+ is just his new level of production since 2021. But at the same time, I’m hopeful that his slow start last year was due to his last minute signing and he’ll return to somewhere around the 115 WRC+ player he was prior to 2021 and from mid-May 2022 through the end of the season (120 wRC+ during that time).

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Brock244

I’m using his career line outside of Coors, where a guy who has always struggled with pitch recognition has had to deal with breaking balls that move like breaking balls.

I do absolutely agree that he figures to be in the Aybar zone, when healthy!

Don’t think starting Story at SS is the optimal way to get a full season out of him, though, given the bum elbow.

darren
3 years ago
Reply to  Brock244

I would have liked to see some of their financial muscle used to sign/retain some top end talent, but I agree that now that we’re here, another SP and a middle infielder are what is needed.

LightenUpFGMember since 2018
3 years ago

I worry about that age. Turner is fantastic on paper and has been for years, but I see guys like Cruz and Votto suddenly go from spectacularly consistent to no one we recognize, yet they hang on. Maybe this is not only a statistics move but a clubhouse/cred move given the unfortunate departure of a few guys who helped keep the glue together.

Manco
3 years ago

“He gets on base”

rounders
3 years ago

The farm arrives in two years and with it conceivably over 150 million to spend. I doubt Bloom is going to get knocked off track at this point whatever happens.
I suspect Devers is gone. And no, he’s not a first circle elite player even if he’s easily the best player they’ve got.

JimmieFoxxalorianMember since 2020
3 years ago
Reply to  rounders

Depends on what you mean by elite. Devers is 7th in the AL in WAR form 2019-2022, and his peak years are ahead of him.

In fact, in all of MLB, he is 15th in total WAR over the past 4 years, tied with Machado and ahead of players like Altuve, Correa, Harper, and Acuna, Jr. over that same time period. Which of course is a little misleading because of injuries to those players, but Devers WAR total, at his age, and hitting ability that may even improve, suggests he is deserving of an elite contract.

Last edited 3 years ago by JimmieFoxxalorian
JimmieFoxxalorianMember since 2020
3 years ago

I’ve been watching baseball for a very long time, spanning many regimes and front office strategies, etc. I usually have a pretty good handle on what a team is trying to accomplish.

I have absolutely 100%, no idea what the Red Sox are trying to achieve for 2023. The throwing darts theory is a good one. How else does one explain the long, murky trail of weird decisions?

They do moves that don’t get closer to contention, nor the cellar, but also don’t initiate a full rebuild. They fail to retain core stars, fail to address obvious areas of need in the offseason, do weird overpays or radical low-ball offers, seem have a bad habit of giving away prospects for nothing, like leaving Ward unprotected for Rule 5, gifting promising Jay Broome to the Padres for Hosmer (only to DFA Hosmer), giving away Inmer Lobo for Hoy Park (then trading Park for PTBNL & cash 3 weeks later), etc.

All indications suggest strongly that this is not a well-run organization. What I observe is a front office that is grabbing at straws unnecessarily when clear choices to address their needs were available. They truly do seem to somehow not know what they are doing, or are over analyzing something in a way that contributes to their decision-making, but whatever that may be is difficult to discern.