Let’s Beat the Dodgers!

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One of my favorite sports movie tropes is the Scrappy Underdogs Who Discover the Power of Friendship. While there are myriad variations on the theme, the basic template involves a group of lovable losers facing off against some big baddie and initially being humiliated. As the movie goes on, the various underdogs unite against their common foe, and through determination, grit, moxie, and typically some shenanigans, they meet their antagonists again, only on more even footing. Ideally, our ragtag band emerges victorious, but even if they don’t, they’ve at least learned something about themselves and friendship, often earning the grudging respect of their rivals along the way.

The Yankees were once baseball’s Evil Empire, but these days, the Dodgers reign supreme. They’re rich, they’re smart, they play in a ritzy city, and they would definitely look down on the kids at the ramshackle summer camp across the lake. As it has in most recent seasons, ZiPS projects the Dodgers to be the best team in baseball, and the newly-released FanGraphs Playoff Odds agree. But baseball needn’t accept its projected fate. It’s time to fight back! It’s time to unite some scrappy underdogs — at least on a spreadsheet. And so, with a tip of the hat to Tom Tango, whose theoretical inspired me to put together this piece, to the computer!

To construct our ragtag squad, we’ll start with the worst projected team in baseball, the Rockies, and ask ZiPS to build the best 26-man roster it can to square off against the Dodgers in a fictional seven-game World Series. I’m looking for two probability thresholds here: A Fighting Chance (a one-in-three shot of winning the series) and the Hunter Becomes the Hunted (the underdogs pass the 50% mark). If a roster made entirely of Rockies fails to meet these thresholds, then the players from the next-worst projected team will join the pool. We’ll keep repeating the process until our heroes emerge victorious.

I’m setting a few additional rules here. Our Depth Charts have to be project every player I use for at least 30 plate appearances or 10 innings pitched in the role I assign them. After all, as fun as cheating is, you don’t want me to get too experimental and push solid relievers into the rotation, or move guys to harder positions that they’re likely to play in real life.

Starters are all given a higher percentage of playing time than they would be during the regular season — this is the spreadsheet World Series, after all. As for the Dodgers, I’m using something very close to our current Depth Charts, with a Blake Snell/Yoshinobu Yamamoto/Tyler Glasnow/Shohei Ohtani rotation. For our underdogs, I’m starting the second-best starter in Games 1 and 5, the third-best starter in Games 2 and 6, the best starer in Games 3 and 7, and the fourth starter in, naturally, Game 4. With that out of the way, the Rockies are up first!

We’re pretty early in the movie, so naturally, the underdogs are rather overmatched. The Dodgers are at least 70% favorites in every game except for Game 3 in Denver, in which the Rockies just peek over that line with a 32% projected chance of winning. World Series probability: Dodgers 90.5%, Underdogs 9.5%.

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Next up, we have the Nationals. The Nats aren’t exactly overflowing with pitching, but they’re still good enough to knock out Kyle Freeland and Chase Dollander in favor of Foster Griffin and Cade Cavalli. There’s also some good, high-upside offensive talent on the Nats, with James Wood, Dylan Crews, CJ Abrams, Luis García Jr., and Harry Ford joining our squad. Wood, Crews, and García instantly get starting jobs, with Ford slotting in as an effective backup catcher. We also have our first big positional battle between Abrams and Ezequiel Tovar. I’d love it if Abrams could play second base, but according to our rules, he isn’t eligible, so Tovar keeps the starting spot with Abrams in reserve. Ryan Ritter holds on to edge out Edouard Julien on the bench:

Underdog Squad – Now With Some Nationals
Po Player(s) Starters Relievers
C Hunter Goodman (COL) Pierson Ohl (COL) Clayton Beeter (WSN)
1B Troy Johnston (COL)/Blaine Crim (COL) Foster Griffin (WSN) Griff McGarry (WSN)
2B Luis García Jr. (WSN) Michael Lorenzen (COL) DJ Herz (WSN)
3B Willi Castro (COL) Cade Cavalli (WSN) Brennan Bernardino (COL)
SS Ezequiel Tovar (COL) Luis Perales (WSN)
LF James Wood (WSN) Jaden Hill (COL)
CF Brenton Doyle (COL) Victor Vodnik (COL)
RF Dylan Crews (WSN) Julian Fernández (WSN)
DH Mickey Moniak (COL)
Reserve Harry Ford (WSN)
Reserve CJ Abrams (WSN)
Reserve Ryan Ritter (COL)
Reserve Jake McCarthy (COL)

Well, we haven’t crossed that first threshold yet, but we’re making progress! We’re now up to 16.3% chance of winning our seven-game series. Enter the Los Angeles Angels. We have a stroke of luck, as Mike Trout projects for just enough plate appearances in center field to be able to utilize him out there. Hopefully he can stay healthy for seven games! Zach Neto takes the shortstop job, and with García on the roster, we can afford to carry both Tovar and Abrams for now. The Troy Johnston/Blaine Crim platoon still holds out (barely) over Nolan Schanuel, either by himself or replacing Johnston. Jo Adell bumps Jake McCarthy off the team among the reserves, though Logan O’Hoppe isn’t as fortunate; ZiPS is really suspicious of his 2025 season. The Angels may have a mediocre rotation, but José Soriano, Grayson Rodriguez, Reid Detmers, and Yusei Kikuchi clean the board. There’s not as much in the way of bullpen help, but a healthy Ben Joyce and Drew Pomeranz strengthen our relief corps:

Underdog Squad – Folding in Some Angels
Po Player(s) Starters Relievers
C Hunter Goodman (COL) José Soriano (LAA) Ben Joyce (LAA)
1B Troy Johnston (COL)/Blaine Crim (COL) Grayson Rodriguez (LAA) Clayton Beeter (WSN)
2B Luis García Jr. (WSN) Reid Detmers (LAA) Griff McGarry (WSN)
3B Willi Castro (COL) Yusei Kikuchi (LAA) DJ Herz (WSN)
SS Zach Neto (LAA) Brennan Bernardino (COL)
LF James Wood (WSN) Luis Perales (WSN)
CF Mike Trout (LAA) Drew Pomeranz (LAA)
RF Dylan Crews (WSN) Jaden Hill (COL)
DH Mickey Moniak (COL)
Reserve Harry Ford (WSN)
Reserve CJ Abrams (WSN)
Reserve Ezequiel Tovar (COL)
Reserve Jo Adell (LAA)

We don’t get a huge bump here, as the Angels have more middling players than real stars, but we’re over 20% now, albeit barely — 20.9%. There’s one more team projected for fewer than 70 wins: the Chicago White Sox. With the Pale Hose in the fold, two more Rockies hit the unemployment line, with Munetaka Murakami taking over at first base while Miguel Vargas mans third. Vargas has a rather meh projection, but our situation at the hot corner isn’t especially great, so he gets into the lineup as well. Kyle Teel can’t supplant Hunter Goodman, but he still gets a roster spot over Ford. Crim remains as a reserve thanks to having the platoon advantage over Johnston.

In the rotation, Shane Smith pushes out Kikuchi, while four White Sox relievers join the ‘pen, which loses its final Rockie:

Underdog Squad – Incorporating Some White Sox
Po Player(s) Starters Relievers
C Hunter Goodman (COL) José Soriano (LAA) Grant Taylor (CHW)
1B Munetaka Murakami (CHW) Shane Smith (CHW) Ben Joyce (LAA)
2B Luis García Jr. (WSN) Grayson Rodriguez (LAA) Clayton Beeter (WSN)
3B Miguel Vargas (CHW) Reid Detmers (LAA) Jordan Hicks (CHW)
SS Zach Neto (LAA) Griff McGarry (WSN)
LF James Wood (WSN) Seranthony Domínguez (CHW)
CF Mike Trout (LAA) Sean Newcomb (CHW)
RF Dylan Crews (WSN) DJ Herz (WSN)
DH Mickey Moniak (COL)
Reserve Kyle Teel (CHW)
Reserve CJ Abrams (WSN)
Reserve Ezequiel Tovar (COL)
Reserve Jo Adell (LAA)
Reserve Blaine Crim (COL)

We aren’t up to 33% yet, but at 26.4%, we’re inching closer and closer. And we’re finally a better than .500 team! What’s more, we now get the opportunity to pillage some high-end Pirates talent. Konnor Griffin and Oneil Cruz have stiff competition at their positions, ending up as reserves, but Brandon Lowe is an upgrade at second and Spencer Horwitz projects as marginally more helpful than Mickey Moniak. Unsurprisingly, where the Pirates really help is in the rotation, with Paul Skenes, Braxton Ashcraft, and Bubba Chandler grabbing the top three spots, with Mitch Keller just missing. And while it isn’t as flashy, the Bucs have filled out the ‘pen enough that our relievers are a low-key but very high quality group:

Underdog Squad – Hoist the Jolly Roger!
Po Player(s) Starters Relievers
C Hunter Goodman (COL) Paul Skenes (PIT) Mason Montgomery (PIT)
1B Munetaka Murakami (CHW) Braxton Ashcraft (PIT) Grant Taylor (CHW)
2B Brandon Lowe (PIT) Bubba Chandler (PIT) Hunter Barco (PIT)
3B Miguel Vargas (CHW) José Soriano (LAA) Carmen Mlodzinski (PIT)
SS Zach Neto (LAA) Dennis Santana (PIT)
LF James Wood (WSN) Ben Joyce (LAA)
CF Mike Trout (LAA) Clayton Beeter (WSN)
RF Dylan Crews (WSN) Jordan Hicks (CHW)
DH Spencer Horwitz (PIT)
Reserve Kyle Teel (CHW)
Reserve Luis García Jr. (WSN)
Reserve Konnor Griffin (PIT)
Reserve Ezequiel Tovar (COL)
Reserve Oneil Cruz (PIT)

With the Pirates in the fold, we have officially passed the first threshold! This team would now project as the best squad in the NL Central, and boasts a 37% chance of taking down the full-strength Dodgers. I think we’re at Rocky levels! The Dodgers still have some really high-end talent in their lineup, but our team gets some serious reinforcement from the Las Vegas Athletics of Sacramento. Brent Rooker, Jeff McNeil, Lawrence Butler, Nick Kurtz, and Shea Langeliers all make the starting lineup, our biggest offensive boost so far. Jacob Wilson also makes the roster, though he still projects slightly behind Neto. The Rockies face oblivion, with only Goodman remaining. The A’s are quite a bit less helpful on the pitching side, with only Brady Basso joining the team as the last pitcher out of the bullpen:

Underdog Squad – Mixing in the Athletics
Po Player(s) Starters Relievers
C Shea Langeliers (ATH) Paul Skenes (PIT) Mason Montgomery (PIT)
1B Brent Rooker (ATH) Braxton Ashcraft (PIT) Grant Taylor (CHW)
2B Jeff McNeil (ATH) Bubba Chandler (PIT) Hunter Barco (PIT)
3B Miguel Vargas (CHW) José Soriano (LAA) Carmen Mlodzinski (PIT)
SS Zach Neto (LAA) Dennis Santana (PIT)
LF James Wood (WSN) Ben Joyce (LAA)
CF Mike Trout (LAA) Clayton Beeter (WSN)
RF Lawrence Butler (ATH) Brady Basso (ATH)
DH Nick Kurtz (ATH)
Reserve Hunter Goodman (COL)
Reserve Brandon Lowe (PIT)
Reserve Jacob Wilson (ATH)
Reserve Munetaka Murakami (CHW)
Reserve Oneil Cruz (PIT)

We’re tantalizingly close now, with a 46.6% chance of vanquishing our foes; we’re even favored in two of the seven possible games (the Skenes starts). Will the Rays put us over the top? Well, we finally get the upgrade we need at third base, with Junior Caminero easily booting Vargas, and Yandy Díaz projecting better than Murakami. Still, upgrading this lineup is becoming increasingly hard, thanks to the A’s who joined. We now have a killer Skenes-Shane McClanahanDrew Rasmussen front three, with Ashcraft remaining as our fourth starter. Griffin Jax becomes the closer, and Steven Matz pairs with Hunter Barco as our resident southpaws:

Underdog Squad – Swimming in Rays
Po Player(s) Starters Relievers
C Shea Langeliers (ATH) Paul Skenes (PIT) Griffin Jax (TBR)
1B Brent Rooker (ATH) Shane McClanahan (TBR) Mason Montgomery (PIT)
2B Jeff McNeil (ATH) Drew Rasmussen (TBR) Grant Taylor (CHW)
3B Junior Caminero (TBR) Braxton Ashcraft (PIT) Steven Matz (TBR)
SS Zach Neto (LAA) Hunter Barco (PIT)
LF James Wood (WSN) Carmen Mlodzinski (PIT)
CF Mike Trout (LAA) Dennis Santana (PIT)
RF Lawrence Butler (ATH) Ben Joyce (LAA)
DH Nick Kurtz (ATH)
Reserve Hunter Goodman (COL)
Reserve Brandon Lowe (PIT)
Reserve Jacob Wilson (ATH)
Reserve Yandy Díaz (TBR)
Reserve Oneil Cruz (PIT)

With our most recent additions, our illegally assembled team is projected as having a 57.2% chance of beating the Dodgers in the spreadsheet World Series. And it only took the best talent from the seven worst-projected teams in baseball to do it! This probably overstates just how bad at least some of the lesser teams in the majors are; a squad made up of just Athletics and Pirates would be pretty effective on its own, even against the mighty Dodgers. By the time we finished our challenge, the roster was extremely short of Rockies, Nationals, and White Sox, which should be a lesson that a team that wins 70-something games likely possesses far more top-end talent than a teams approaching 100 losses. We could go farther, and invite the best of the Marlins, Cardinals, and Twins to help us really bully the Dodgers, but if we’re going to do a full heel turn, we ought to wait for the sequel. In the meantime, perhaps the league’s cellar-dwellers can contemplate how they might go from underdog to contender.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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HomesteadSteveMember since 2018
5 months ago

Excuse me Dan but it’s RAISE the Jolly Roger.

Not that it ever happens…

LaBellaVitaMember since 2018
5 months ago
Reply to  HomesteadSteve

And if we are going to correct, it is the Las Vegas Athletics of West Sacramento (LVAWS).

An enjoyable exercise and a delightful read.

RoyalsFan#14321Member since 2024
5 months ago

I only recognized two names on the Rockies roster… two.

JRMayneMember since 2016
5 months ago

This is a super-fun article! Thanks!

JimMember since 2016
5 months ago

This was really fun!!

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago

Are you taking requests to see how stitched-together teams would do in ZiPS?

Because I would really like to see how:
1) The position players for the Athletics (or D-Backs) would do if they had
2) the starters for the Pirates or Reds, and
3) the relievers for the Guardians (or even White Sox)

I think that team could hang with basically any team either in a 7-game series or over in MLB 162 games.except the Dodgers.

r0lfeMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I would also love to see this.

I would also love an analysis of the statement made in the tweet – essentially choosing teams based on lowest payroll, not lowest win totals.

This is the type of fun hypotheticals I could read about for hours.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  r0lfe

Athletics, Pirates, and Guardians all have payrolls under $100M, so that might still work.

White Sox too, although they definitely aren’t as good.

If I were building off of a low payroll team to play the Dodgers I could get pretty far with those three. The Nationals, Marlins, and Rays all have some MLB talent too, but I think I wouldn’t need them if I could play Jose Reyes at third, put Kwan in CF, have Brandon Lowe at 2B, etc.

I think those three teams together could definitely beat the Dodgers.

Last edited 5 months ago by sadtrombone
C Beisbol
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I would like to see the Dodgers could send 2 split squad teams to the playoffs (or at least be .500).

Like this: https://community.fangraphs.com/what-if-the-st-louis-cardinals-were-two-teams/

CMCR
5 months ago

I found this pretty fascinating, thanks for pulling this all together!

I Like Big BuxtonMember since 2024
5 months ago

I know it doesn’t meaningfully change anything, but my detail-oriented brain is wondering why you didn’t get to a full 26-man roster until the fourth iteration. The first one (all Rockies) makes some sense to include only 24 players, since the final two roster spaces in COL exist only in theory, but surely once you add the Nats and Angels, you can get 26 legit MLB players, right?

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I Like Big BuxtonMember since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  Dan Szymborski

I stand corrected!

Jimmy_ChangaMember since 2020
5 months ago

I get that an exercise like this needs some sort of rules, but pushing a bad defensive SS to 2B is such a common move in a bad team becoming a better team. You just gotta have C.J. Abrams on this team, especially over Jeff McNeil of all players.

Tucker AtwoodMember since 2024
5 months ago

Very fun experiment! Though Brent Rooker hasn’t played a single MLB inning at 1B while Nick Kurtz is a 1B, so I think their positions should be swapped.

carterMember since 2020
5 months ago

Poor Rockies end up with just one reserve hitter, and the White Sox only get one relief pitcher

Jason BMember since 2017
5 months ago
Reply to  carter

Maybe they can play their home games in Denver, pretty stadium/setting and all…

cubsker
5 months ago

In the age of the transfer portal, I had been thinking mediocre teams should form a collective and take turns having their best players all transfer to one school of the collective and then the school getting the best would rotate annually.

r0lfeMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  cubsker

You should be able to “loan” players out for the season.

Like if it’s the trade deadline and the Pirates are out of it? You can trade a prospect to the Pirates for Skenes, just for the rest of the year, and when the season is over he goes back to the Pirates.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  r0lfe

Would work better with position players than pitchers. Although another issue might be that a player might have some trouble reintegrating with the old team after experiencing winning baseball. Might not want to even report back.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
5 months ago
Reply to  cubsker

FWIW, what’s going on in CFB right now is instructive of what might occur if there were no CBA and GMs were so afraid of dead money that they never signed anyone to a guaranteed deal beyond the upcoming season

SaltyMember since 2017
5 months ago

Would the underdog squad consider moving Grant Taylor into the rotation?

d_iMember since 2016
5 months ago

Rooker has never played any 1B. Would think you’d have to swap him and Kurtz at DH

jtricheyMember since 2021
5 months ago

One interesting aside is that the Angels, ALL BY THEMSELVES, beat the Dodgers in all 6 matchups in 2025. Zach Neto was crazy good against the Dodgers last year.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  jtrichey

It’s gotta stink a little for Angels fans that you can do this and you still have to suspend a whole helping of disbelief to think you really have any bragging rights.

JOHN MEARSMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  jtrichey

And in real life, Jack Kochanowicz shut down the Dodgers for one night.

Computer simulations are fun.

But real life still pulls out some great underdog, unpredictable performances.

JoeyVottoIsGoneMember since 2016
5 months ago

What’s the worst team that could beat the Dodgers if the only thing you changed was taking away Shohei Ohtani from the Dodgers and giving him to the other team? Would the Reds or Pirates + Ohtani be favorites against the Dodgers minus Ohtani? Would they be competitive?

frankenspock
5 months ago

Take Ohtani off the Dodgers, they’re still projected for 90+ wins. Add Ohtani to any of the teams listed here, they’re still well short of 90 wins. So probably not.

Also, you know, the Dodgers won 100 games each of the three years before they acquired Ohtani.

Last edited 5 months ago by frankenspock
JoeyVottoIsGoneMember since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  frankenspock

Yeah, I was more interested in how they would do in a short series per the conditions Dan laid out in this thought experiment, not full season win totals.

Jeremy FoxMember since 2026
5 months ago
Reply to  frankenspock

Ok, so just moving Ohtani from the Dodgers to the Rockies or whoever wouldn’t be enough to make the A’s favorites over the Dodgers. So: how many Dodgers would you have to swap to the Rockies or whoever to make the Dodgers underdogs in a 7 game series? Assume that you start by swapping the best Dodger (Ohtani) for the worst Rockie. Then swap the second-best Dodger for the second-worst Rockie, and so on.

Although I guess that doesn’t really work, because it would screw up the positions very quickly.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago

This is going to depend a lot on what you think the best and worst teams. And also what you think of the Dodgers. ZiPS projects three fewer wins than Depth Charts, although that’s mostly due to depth and that doesn’t really matter in a 7-game series.

By Depth Charts, if you took an 8-WAR player off the Dodgers and added him to another team there are a bunch of teams that would be ahead of them. But those are already pretty good teams. There are 11 teams within 16 projected WAR of the Dodgers.

Some of them wouldn’t get the full benefit of having Ohtani because they have a DH situation already pretty well set up. But I think the Phillies would be the only one that would fall more than 16 projected WAR away if they drop their DH.

So that’s 10 teams.

If you think Depth Charts is too low on the Padres and Brewers then you can add them. You could also add them if you think the Dodgers aren’t that much better than all the other teams.

I think you’re looking at about 10-12 teams in total. The Rangers, Royals, and Giants are the next 3 teams looking on the outside in. And unless you think the Reds or Pirates are much better than their Depth Charts projection moving Ohtani to them wouldn’t get them close, they’re projected for a whopping 20 fewer WAR than the Dodgers.

Last edited 5 months ago by sadtrombone
OkraMember since 2016
5 months ago

This was a fun read! But I can’t help but feel it was still too easy & quick by folding in the Pirates and A’s before the Marlins and Cardinals. I’ll easily take the A’s over both. The A’s have a legit playoff caliber offense.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  Okra

Comparing the official projected standings to the ZiPS-only ones, ZiPS is very much the low system on the Pirates and somewhat on the A’s. Other things being equal that would come out in the wash, because it’d also project their players to do worse. Probably other things aren’t equal though because I suspect that the difference comes more in ZiPS being pessimistic about those teams’ supporting casts than the guys who wind up on the scrappy underdogs team.

Even aside from overall team quality, the A’s and Pirates’ team construction makes them much more helpful for this exercise than the Cards and Marlins, who are mostly a bunch of guys that are OK. They don’t have as much room for addition by subtraction as you could get by replacing the A’s pitching staff and most of the Pirates’ lineup.

viceroyMember since 2020
5 months ago

Riveting roster assembly. Would love to see how many more teams to frankenstein together before they had >66% odds. Another idea is to do the opposite – taking the worst projected starter from each team, how many castoff teams until the rockies win out?

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  viceroy

Ya I want to see how many of the best teams’ worst players you’d have to play to lose to the Rockies

raregokusMember since 2022
5 months ago
Reply to  viceroy

Frankly I think Dan should take this to its logical conclusion and optimize the entire league such that every team’s median outcome is going 81-81

formerly matt wMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  raregokus

The Diamondbacks remain pristine. Both the Late-January ZiPS projected standings and the current playoff odds have them going exactly .500.

JackelderMember since 2017
5 months ago
Reply to  viceroy

That would be an extremely negative and hurtful piece. Let’s not go there.

StatmanjackMember since 2024
5 months ago

This made me smile today

Ostensibly RidiculousMember since 2020
5 months ago

Since the main theme of the troupe is about discovering friendship and together overcoming odds to achieve remarkable results….

I think the question to explore would be what if every underdog player performs at his 90th percentile…

What is the lowest rated team that could beat the Dodgers if every player performs at his 90th percentile?

tung_twista
5 months ago

Basically every team, depending on how you define performing at 90th percentile.
The worst qualified bat in 2025 belonged to Ke’Bryan Hayes (wRC+ 65) and Brenton Doyle (wRC+ 65)
But among all 7 game stretches in 2025, their 90% percentile outcome was wRC+ 168 for Hayes and wRC+ 199 for Doyle.

Similarly, the worst qualified pitcher in 2025 was Jake Irvin by both ERA (5.70) and FIP (5.64).
Among the two game stretches, his 90% outcome was
6.1IP 5H 2R 0BB 9SO followed by 7.1IP 3H 1R 1BB 4SO for ERA 1.98 FIP 3.57.

It is difficult to overstate the amount of variance in postseason baseball, even for a 7 game series.

Last edited 5 months ago by tung_twista
Doug LampertMember since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  tung_twista

Agreed, note that when the underdogs were JUST the Rockies, Dan says, “Dodgers 90.5%, Underdogs 9.5%.” Every player on the Rockies having a 90% seven game stretch is vastly less likely than the Rockies as a team having a 91% stretch, which is likely to be good enough.

A short series is a crapshoot and all MLB teams have the talent to have a hot series.

kingofdiamondsMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  Doug Lampert

As has already been noted, the Angels played the Dodgers 6 times last year and won all 6 of them. Sometimes you can roll a die 6 times and get nothing but 1’s and 2’s. It’s very unlikely, but given enough rolls, it will happen.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
5 months ago
Reply to  kingofdiamonds

I mean, in the grand scheme of things, that scenario isn’t even that unlikely (1/729 if doing my math correctly; that’s a little 0.1% chance).

NATS FanMember since 2018
5 months ago

8 Pirates! We might be under estimating this team? 2 are not pitchers.

Jason BMember since 2017
5 months ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

We might be under estimating this team?

Perhaps! Lotsa talent…

2 are not pitchers

Ah, there’s the rub.

rosen380
5 months ago

The combined 2026 payrolls of those seven teams (using Spotrac.com data):

$763.5M

Even letting them write off the league minimum times the 26×6 roster spots not being used, still looking at about $640M

formerly matt wMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  rosen380

Got a lot of expensive 40-man depth (or 175-man depth) though. Like for instance you’re charging the scrappy underdogs 15.4 million of dead money to have Mitch Keller be the seventh best starter and off the team–even the Dodgers don’t pay their AAA starters that much.

KeithMember since 2024
5 months ago

A’s and Pirates total payroll, $284 mil, still 100+ less then Dodgers. A’s and Pirates would be an awesome team. Cheap until Skenes, Kurtz, etc hit FA, then it’ll be like a billion dollars….

kingofdiamondsMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  Keith

I saw Tango’s response to the graphic and thought “would the best team made out of those 6 just be the Pirates’ pitching staff, most of the A’s starting lineup, and Jose Ramirez and Kyle Stowers?”

Okay, actually, the Rays would also have some pitchers on the combined team too and Caminero should probably be playing somewhere even if it’s not 3rd base, but still, the A’s offense + the Pirates’ pitching would be a legit playoff team.

savageinbx
5 months ago

I don’t think this lineup gets it done, a lot of the value here is in having the best bench in baseball; it would require a perfect manager to utilize all of it’s value and that quite the task. Maybe I’m just accustom to Aaron Boone.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
5 months ago
Reply to  savageinbx

I don’t know, that’s a pretty solid lineup, even if I’d probably slot Lowe in ahead of McNeil, personally. You likely won’t need much with that front four, though the bullpen is a little shaky (you could reinforce it with some of the removed starters — Soriano would be a better choice than Joyce in my opinion).

JackelderMember since 2017
5 months ago

Thank you for affirming my opinion of Ashcraft. I kept him as a 7th SP in Otto on metrics, and now I Believe!

justahikerMember since 2021
5 months ago

I’ll take the underdogs after six teams. That team is deep.

justahikerMember since 2021
5 months ago
Reply to  justahiker

And I should add, this was a fun read. Fun comments, too . I would have guessed it would take less teams.

martyvan90Member since 2026
5 months ago

Deliteful! Please create an interactive game out of this for next year’s missed season. Were that depressing event to occur…just scenario planning.

MarkMember since 2016
5 months ago

But how would the underdogs do against a team of 25 Adam Dunns?

speedlimitdriver
5 months ago

This was fascinating. I’d love to see how many of the bottom teams you’d have to add to each of the high-projection teams to make them favored to beat the Dodgers. Like, for example, the Blue Jays would be favored to beat the Dodgers with certain key Rockies and Nationals added, the Phillies need to get all the way to the Pirates (AKA, Skenes), etc.

Jason BMember since 2017
5 months ago

The Blue Jays could win IF IKF JUST TOOK A SECONDARY LEAD FROM THIRD BASE AND HOFFMAN DIDN’T GIVE UP NINTH INNING HOME RUNS TO AAA PLAYERS AND I’M NOT STILL BITTER, YOU’RE BITTER!! 😀