Let’s Design a New Line Score

Last Friday, I suggested a change to line scores that I think would go a long way towards updating them for the modern era. I’ve spent quite a bit of time thinking about the broad strokes of the change – how errors and hits are no longer the most useful two data points, and how extra-base hits can tell you a lot about how a game felt.

One thing I couldn’t do before last Friday: get thousands of passionate baseball fans to read my idea and suggest changes. I still like my idea – one-base hits and extra-base hits instead of hits and errors – but I liked tons of the suggestions that I received in the comments as well. Rather than rule by fiat, I thought it would be interesting to poll the same people who came up with all these great ideas on which one they like best.

To demonstrate each of the possible scoring solutions, I’m going to use the contest between the Astros and A’s that led off last Friday’s column. As a reminder, here’s the line score rendered in the current style (courtesy of Baseball Reference):

Riffs on My Original

My Solution
Briefly: events that place the batter on first base safely (plus all errors, for ease of scoring) go in the “1B” column. Extra-base hits go in the “XB” column. That makes for two columns plus runs, just like a standard box score. I think that some of the later options will be better, if only for their handling of errors, something I was overly concerned with in my initial pass. It looks like this:

A’s-Astros New Line Score
Team Runs 1B XB
Astros 8 12 5
Athletics 1 10 2

Baserunner Option
FanGraphs Member g4 suggested a similar but potentially more intuitive solution. Instead of the “1B” column, they propose a column for total baserunners. The abbreviation is up to you – BR, TBR, whatever you’d prefer – but this column is every batter who reached base safely. After that, there’s another column for extra-base hits. This gets rid of “1B” while still showing you at a glance how busy the bases were. Amusingly, this first permutation shows off one of the limits of my proposed score: neither error in this game resulted in a baserunner. Perhaps errors should be treated on a case-by-case basis, which would add a slight computational load to scorers but show the results of the game more clearly. The Baserunner Option looks like this:

New Line Score – Total Baserunners
Team Runs TBR XB
Astros 8 17 5
Athletics 1 10 2

Baserunner/Home Run Option
I liked g4’s solution, but I thought of an even simpler twist. With total baserunners on board, I’m a little less interested in separating doubles from singles. Home runs still deserve their own space though. You can easily imagine a game where a team can’t string together their doubles, but that’s not the case for homers. With doubles and triples now covered somewhere else, we could use the third column for home runs instead, like so:

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New Line Score – BR/HR
Team Runs BR HR
Astros 8 17 2
Athletics 1 10 0

Non-Hit Option
FanGraphs Member JohnThacker suggests a three-column option that makes “1B” actually mean singles, a definite problem with my first proposal. “XB” remains the same. A third column – baserunners as a result of non-hits – combines walks, HBPs, and errors that result in a base. I’m flying blind on an abbreviation here, but how about “OBR” for other baserunners? This gives more of a feel for how the baserunners reached – a barrage of walks and a pile of singles feel different on the field, and now they would in the line score as well:

New Line Score – 1B/XB/OBR
Team Runs 1B XB OBR
Astros 8 4 5 8
Athletics 1 4 2 4

Total Bases/LOB Ideas

Three-Column Total Bases
FanGraphs Member HappyFunBall suggests a three-column line score (four counting runs) that includes baserunners, total bases, and the “other baserunners” column from above (they called it unforced errors, but I don’t want to score a walk as an unforced error). This has the benefit of distinguishing between doubles and home runs, showing how many runners reached base overall, and delineating between walks and singles. It has two drawbacks. First, it uses three columns, which may not be a huge problem but is worth noting. Second, the mismatch between baserunners and total bases might look weird in some cases (when there are few hits but many walks, basically). I don’t find this to be a huge problem, however, and like the density of information:

New Line Score – Three-Column
Team Runs BR TB OBR
Astros 8 17 18 8
Athletics 1 10 8 4

LOB Option
Commenter bennysantiago09 suggests using “left on base” as an additional variable that tells the story of the game, and I quite like it. This option didn’t have an exact suggestion for the rest of the columns, and there’s some danger of duplication of information when you combine baserunners, runs, and left on base, but for a first pass at it, I kept my 1B/XB formulation (corrected for errors that don’t allow a baserunner) and added left on base:

New Line Score – Left on Base
Team Runs 1B XB LOB
Astros 8 12 5 8
Athletics 1 10 2 7

Back to Basics Option
Commenter rburgh suggests a three-column approach that really hits at the building blocks of baseball. A column for plate appearances tells you how many batters each team sent up. A column for baserunners tells you how many of those reached base. A column for total bases tells you how much each runner advanced. One potentially tricky part of this solution is that in this formulation, “total bases” is not the same as the current statistic of that name. It includes base advancements on errors (and presumably steals), though not on other players’ hits. It’s simultaneously an elemental idea and one that would require getting used to:

New Line Score – PA/BR/TB
Team Runs PA BR TB
Astros 8 43 17 26
Athletics 1 35 10 13

Meta Ideas

Data-Driven Option
FanGraphs Member Morris Greenberg suggests a method of coming up with a box score, rather than a specific suggestion for columns. The idea is to run a regression on runs scored, using a ton of different available measures, and see which two do the best combined job of explaining variation in runs scored. I used the 2021 season as an example, and the best two-column solution was baserunners and left on base, but that’s somewhat academic – the only way to get a baserunner off base without them scoring is to make an out on the bases, and there are vanishingly few of those these days. The best two-column solution that didn’t just close the loop completely was total baserunners and home runs, which scored very close to total baserunners and extra-base hits. Sounds like a victory for me, but I’ll still present it here:

New Line Score – Data-driven TBR/HR
Team Runs TBR HR
Astros 8 17 2
Athletics 1 10 0

Now that you’ve read a big pile of solutions, I’m putting the question to you: which one do you like best? The following is a poll of all of these solutions except for the meta-solution, because it suggested solutions that are already included in the poll. And thanks a ton for voting. Hopefully this is another milestone on my quest to update line scores for the modern day. Here’s the poll:





Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.

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JohnThackerMember since 2025
4 years ago

One reason I like my suggestion is that it’s a relatively small change, and it keeps it easy to tell if a no-hitter is going, while also making it easier to distinguish a perfect game than the current box score.

Count me down as someone who says that no-hitters and perfect games are exciting, and that’s one thing that you want to see at a glance.

Gold Star
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnThacker

John, I voted for your idea because, as your noted, it’s important to have the easy-to-grasp notion of an ongoing perfect game/no-hitter. When I catch a linescore of a ballgame in the late innings, and I see 0 0 0, that’s all I need to know this bears watching. Yours does that.

WebsMember since 2020
4 years ago

PA is not that useful, because depends on what you’re calling BR/TBR. PA is basically TBR+outs (not precisely, though as that ignores the small number of outs on the base paths, of course).

The goal is a single-glance story of the game, and it needs to be something no one who has ever heard of FanGraphs would be comfortable with. To me, it’s TBR (which oddly becomes BR in the poll) and HRs.

It tells me which team won, which dominated, and which hit the crap out of the ball. I suppose for the latter that total bases or XBH is a more descriptive number, but this isn’t a deep dive into stats analysis. We all dig the long ball.

timmer
4 years ago

I like the HRs being included in the line score, they are the most important part of run scoring and will tell the story of the game more times than most of the other options.

OddBall Herrera
4 years ago

The line score is supposed to be a quick ‘what happened’ glance, right? If that’s the goal I think it should be easily consumable and reflect the primary action from the game, so I’d say Runs / Baserunners / Homers / Strikeouts. I think the latter is really missing from the above suggestions, because much like the number of homers the number of Ks involved really informs what kind of game it was

BarryZitoBarChords
4 years ago

I want to agree, but for the Line Score I [mostly] don’t care how the outs were made. However I do always go to the Box Score now to look at K’s and BB’s and think I would continue to do that for games I care more about. I wouldn’t mind seeing K’s at a glance and as an A’s fan I have often been annoyed to see too many of them for my squad, but I in the context of these options I just don’t see it as quite making the cutoff over other options.

OddBall Herrera
4 years ago

Yeah I guess it all boils down to how you use the line score. I want to at a glance see what kind of game it was and if there is something worth looking more closely at, and if I saw 14K on there that would pique my interest. I usually don’t page through the actual stats in regular season games unless there is something that looks unusual or I have a fantasy player in there.

Dmjn53
4 years ago

I’m not sure I agree, because in terms of essential information a team that’s grounded out 10 times isn’t all that different from a team that’s K’d 10 times

ncgostlMember since 2018
4 years ago

I want to give a plug for the R – 1B – XB – OBR line (called “non-hit” here).

First, it’s easy to sum the 3 numbers and you have TBR. So there’s really 4 pieces of information conveyed here.

Second, it gives you a good feel for the relative role of SLG vs. OBP using their elements. Did the team succeed through power (XB), getting on base (1B + OBR), etc.

And its easy enough to look for details of HRs in the rest of the box score.

JMKUHNERMember since 2019
4 years ago

Why isn’t no change an option?

mariodegenzgz
4 years ago
Reply to  JMKUHNER

Right. The one change I’d maybe accept is adding LOB after E, but aside from that… leave it how it is. It’s like showing a pitcher’s W-L record in front of his ERA, or showing average/homers/RBIs, it just looks right.

Dmjn53
4 years ago
Reply to  JMKUHNER

because it’s not actually going to be changed. This is for fun, and keeping it the same isn’t fun

mr_hoggMember since 2020
4 years ago

I would just go Runs Hits Baserunners Homers … keeps the familiar grammar of Runs Hits, but adds Baserunners which gives a sense of sloppy play (“wow there must have been a lot of walks / HBP / errors”) and HRs which gives a sense of impact. Imagine reading:

5 6 11 1

4 9 10 0

olethrosMember since 2020
4 years ago

Why not just TB [BB+ROE+HBP+1B+2B(2)+3B(3)+HR(4)]/LOB/R?

OddBall Herrera
4 years ago
Reply to  olethros

That is going to produce a nearly inscrutable number w/o additional context. A game where four singles were allowed and a game with one hit, but it was a homer, are pretty different affairs. Not to mention what you can glean from, say, 18, other than that some combination of things happened.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago

Will the new line score tell me who won the sausage race?

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Chorizo. It’s ALWAYS chorizo

g4Member since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

Funny, in my experience it’s NEVER chorizo.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago

I’d like runs/hits/total base runners/total bases/homeruns. I guess it adds a column, but is that really a big deal?

newsenseMember since 2020
4 years ago

I think what you want from the line score is how the scoring came about. I favor the Back to Basics because it is very close to a Runs Created formula: RC=TB*OBP, where OBP=BR/PA.

Gold Star
4 years ago

Would R H TB OBR work?
For the example game, it’s:
HOU 8 9 18 8
OAK 2 6 8 6
From this, we can see the Astros were piling up extra bases as well as receiving BB/HBP/ROE. Meanwhile, the A’s had zero pop at the plate, so they couldn’t take advantage of some sloppiness on part of Houston’s pitchers and defense.

Gold Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Gold Star

Last night, I played an OOTP game that resulted in this linescore:

LAD 3 12 19 7

Why yes, I *did* leave a zillion men on base AND hit into a pair of bases-loaded double plays, thanks for asking…

bennysantiago09
4 years ago

This is fun. Thankful for the lockout so Ben could stoke this fire.

I am glad we are looking at the line score with a new perspective. I will suggest that there seems to be strong support for removing Errors from the Line Score, or at least that it is the least useful current part. There also seems to be some debate on whether hits should be improved upon with a baserunner or total bases tally of some sort. My comments below are focused on what Ben discussed originally as what the line score ought to be able to describe.

In soccer, there’s an idea of a clean sheet, and baseball has the perfect game, no-hitter and shutout. So I hear those comments that a line score should probably be able to define whether those occured. So maybe that is one objective of a revised line score – that it reads with enough zeros to determine a perfect game, no-hitter, or shutout by the opposing side?

Finally, I am pondering whether BB, HR’s and K’s are useful in including in the line score. So much of offense trends is the increase in three true outcomes, and perhaps we could enjoy even historic line scores that included these.

Could a baseball fan enjoy a short line score of R/LOB/TB more than the status quo? Could there also be an extended line score of R/LOB/TB + BB/HR/K?

Also thanks to those who have discussed the LOB as a potential add, I’m glad I could make my contribution to this discussion.

g4Member since 2020
4 years ago

Appreciate the shout-out Ben and for rounding up all these clever proposals. A lot to consider, but my instinct is to balk at a HR column. Right now it’s the primary way of scoring but as we’ve seen over time approaches can change, and devoting a whole column to a bunch of 1-0, 2-1, 2-2 lines feels wasteful (though not as wasteful as errors is now). Plus, homers are easily accessible in the box score.

To me, a triple feels closer to a homer than a single in terms of likely run causation. Doubles, of course, completely straddle that fence. So perhaps the solution is scrapping XB for TB in some way. But highlighting homers alone feels too “of the moment” — let’s be more Chadwickian and shoot for timeless. 😉

chewbaccaMember since 2025
4 years ago

Hate to say this, but I like inning by inning. You can add any of your additional columns, but I really want to see how the game progressed over time.

letmegocheck
4 years ago

Perhaps we should cut runs, and just show the three true outcomes. HR/K/BB

DBRunsMember since 2025
4 years ago

One of the first things you learn in MBA school, management consulting, etc. is the importance of simplicity when expressing information in the form of numbers. This is especially true for executive summary purposes. The current linescore does just that – we all can quickly process information in the form of runs, and hits, and errors. The proposed linescore needs to do just that, but with more relevant information. That’s why I like runs, times on base (TOB), and HRs. TOB is just hits + a few other things (mainly walks) that we all know are part of the game and can easily internalize. HRs is self-explanatory. Anything else (total bases, etc.) requires too much decomposition to be meaningful. And isn’t the name of the game get on base and hit for power anyways?

Doug Weerts
4 years ago

I would like to see, BR (everyone who at least makes it to 1B), TB (How many times each base was touched), LBSP (Left on Base, Scoring Position). I like the LBSP because that sort of gives a clutch type number – had lots of chances to drive in a run but did not. LBSP can have issues, in a no hitter it is zero and in an 18 run game it might be zero. But if someone lost 4 to 5, it might tell a good story.