Let’s Make Some Trades: The 2021 Edition

We’re about a week away from the trade deadline, and so far, the stage has been a little quiet. So for a little mid-week action, we need to create our own little mise-en-scène, an activity I try to do around this time every year. These are not predictions of moves that will happen, but an exercise that seeks to make fair trades that benefit both the buying contenders and the selling also-rans. In the best-case scenario, we get some fun discussions of what things are possible.

The Oakland Athletics acquire SS Trevor Story from the Colorado Rockies for OF Brayan Buelvas, C Drew Millas, and 1B Greg Deichmann

I’m starting off with a trade that I don’t think either team would do. For Rockies fans, there may be some disappointment that Story doesn’t fetch a big-name prospect. I don’t think that kind of return is suitable at this point; that boat sailed last winter. And the other team isn’t trading for Story, but for two months of Story having a distinct down year.

The Rockies have offensive problems, but given the size of the outfield, I think that a raw talent with defensive upside like Buelvas has a lot of value in Coors, something they’ve been without quite often. While some would think of Nick Allen going in a trade like this, at this point, he’s too good to trade for a rental. Colorado likes defensive-minded catchers, so Millas makes sense here (and isn’t 32 like the team’s usual backstop of choice).

The A’s would likely balk because of money. Sorry Oakland, there aren’t enough (or good enough) prospects going to Colorado to include Elvis Andrus to “even up” the money involved. Story’s not really that expensive, but he’s still too costly for the A’s to make it up by either releasing minor leaguers or making them into a roguish band of lovable Dickensian pickpockets.

The Boston Red Sox acquire 1B Anthony Rizzo from the Chicago Cubs for P Noah Song, P Chris Murphy, and 2B Cameron Cannon

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The realities that will likely keep the Rockies from getting elite prospects for Story are the same for the Cubs with Rizzo. He’s an average offensive first baseman with a terrific glove, but if the Cubs are insistent on someone like Triston Casas being involved, Boston should turn its sights elsewhere or just make do with Bobby Dalbec at the position down the stretch.

Song is not an elite prospect, but he’s interesting, and at least he’s missing time due to flight school instead of a torn rotator cuff. Murphy has allowed too many homers in the minors, but he’s a hard-throwing lefty who is not clueless about where the strike zone is, two traits that are highly desirable when found together. He’s likely not that far from the majors, either, which is helpful for a Chicago team that’s paper-thin in the rotation.

The Milwaukee Brewers acquire OF Joey Gallo from the Texas Rangers for 1B Keston Hiura, P Ethan Small, OF Korry Howell, and SS Eduardo Garcia

I love Hiura and still think he has a ton of upside remaining, but his ongoing contact issues are so severe that he can’t help the Brewers right now. He’s at the point where he’d be best served by a team sticking him at DH and letting him focus solely on hitting, and the Rangers need offensive talent wherever they can find it. At this point, I’d much rather have Howell than Tristen Lutz; ZiPS still isn’t budging on thinking the latter will ever be better than replacement level. Garrett Mitchell is too high of an ask, and Aaron Ashby is likely already useful to the Brewers on the major league roster.

Ideally, you’d want Gallo in right field, where he’s excellent, rather than give that value away at first. Realistically, Daniel Vogelbach and Rowdy Tellez are complementary talents rather than long-term starters. And Gallo’s left-handed bat would absolutely play in American Family Field just as Prince Fielder’s and Eric Thames‘ did.

The Chicago White Sox acquire 3B Eduardo Escobar from the Arizona Diamondbacks for 2B/SS Yolbert Sanchez and 3B Bryan Ramos

I’m leery of counting on Leury García as the starter at second, and I’d be lying if I said I were happy with Danny Mendick. Jake Burger is theoretically an option at second, but he’s only played a handful of games there, and at third, he’d force Yoán Moncada to a position he hasn’t played in quite a while. The White Sox are serious contenders, so there’s a real argument for them being more risk-averse with a known quantity rather than starting Burger, who has a very short track record due to a whole bunch of bad luck. Escobar would also require less in return than Adam Frazier; Chicago may simply not be interested in paying beyond a two-month window for a second baseman with Nick Madrigal’s eventual return from injury next year.

As for the Diamondbacks, they don’t have a great deal of infield depth past Geraldo Perdomo and could use additional options while they wait and see on Jordan Lawlor and Ryan Bliss. I’ve also soured a bit on Perdomo anyway; he’s really been overmatched in Double-A this season.

The Houston Astros acquire P Max Scherzer from the Washington Nationals for SS Jeremy Peña, C Korey Lee, and SS Freudis Nova

I’m a huge fan of Peña and not super-worried about his recovery from wrist surgery, but this could be one of the last, best opportunities for these Astros to go over the top with the acquisition of an ace and try to secure that elusive second championship. Winning one without any whiff of trash can shenanigans would also take some of the oomph out of the criticism that they’ve faced, though they’ll remain the target of boos under any circumstance. Houston has done an excellent job patching together its non-Zack Greinke rotation, something I was skeptical about coming into the season, but with José Urquidy’s recent health troubles, the team would be smart to minimize its downside. A Greinke-Scherzer one-two makes everything behind them look that much better.

The Nats have given little indication of being aggressive sellers, but I think outside of their core young talent (Trea Turner, Juan Soto), that would be a mistake. The NL East is theoretically close enough to be up for grabs, but they probably have the weakest talent of the four teams with a shot. A four-way fight with no wild card spot likely available as a consolation prize isn’t that appealing, especially when your depth is thin enough that — even though he’s done well initially — you’re intentionally playing Alcides Escobar in 2021.

Toronto Blue Jays acquire P Craig Kimbrel from the Chicago Cubs for SS Kevin Smith, 3B Jordan Groshans, and IF Miguel Hiraldo

Smith has crushed Double-A pitching this year, so this is more about me being very high on his future than trying to give Kimbrel away relatively cheaply. ZiPS already gave Smith pretty good odds of peaking at league-average coming into the season and now sees a very good chance that he’ll be a three WAR or better player in his prime. He also really needs to be in the majors now yet is caught in a crunch with Marcus Semien and Bo Bichette above him and Orelvis Martinez coming up quickly behind. I suspect the Cubs are still hoping to retool rather than go full slash-and-burn, and Smith’s proximity to the majors helps them in that.

But no, I’m not giving the Cubs someone like Austin Martin or Alek Manoah. The Blue Jays have a definite need, with injuries thinning out a bullpen that was already top-heavy, but neither they nor any other team are desperate enough to give up that much for two months and an option year of an elite closer. At least I’m being more generous than the Padres were in acquiring Yu Darvish!

New York Mets acquire 3B Kris Bryant from the Chicago Cubs for 3B Mark Vientos and P J.T. Ginn

The natural inclination would be a shortstop given Francisco Lindor‘s injury, but I’m not convinced he’ll be on the shelf that long, and I’m comfortable with Luis Guillorme filling in at short despite his brutal three-error debut there on Monday. I think the Mets should acquire a starter as well given the uncertainty surrounding Jacob deGrom’s health, but I expect that player would be more of a lower-key innings-eater type rather than a Big Name Pitcher.

The offense has been a low point for the Mets this season, with the team ranking 14th in the NL in runs scored and getting disappointing performances everywhere but first and, when Brandon Nimmo has been healthy, center field. I like Bryant better than J.D. Davis at third or Dominic Smith in left, and his ability to play either position gives him a flexibility that’s specifically useful to New York. This is a short rental, so an elite prospect here would be inappropriate, but the Cubs need all the arms they can find, and Vientos, who strikes me as a future first baseman, has a lot better chance of replacing Rizzo than supplanting Pete Alonso.

Philadelphia Phillies acquire OF Byron Buxton and P José Berríos from the Minnesota Twins for P Spencer Howard, SS Bryson Stott, P Francisco Morales, 1B Jhailyn Ortiz, and C Rafael Marchan

I’m lopping off the top of the Phillies’ farm system with this trade, but they’re in a bit of a bind. They need to add talent to the roster, but without being willing to go over the luxury tax threshold, their choices are either to wait for prospects to develop or to trade those prospects for established major leaguers. With the Mets ailing, the Braves losing Ronald Acuña Jr., and the Nationals thinner than a punchline in a Chuck Lorre CBS sitcom, right now is the opportunity.

The Phillies have what I think is the worst center field situation of any serious contender, and Zach Eflin just landed on the IL, so these are definite needs, not extra scoops of ice cream. And I’d give up even more if I could count on Buxton being healthy; this trade is made with the assumption that he’s a risk. Philadelphia has been given the rare opportunity to make up for simply reassembling last year’s .500 team this year. Audentes fortuna juvat.

What trade would you like to see in your role as semi-benevolent-god-monarch-dictator of MLB?





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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Carson Kahla
5 years ago

I find it hard to believe Huira has the kind of value left to be the headliner of a deal for Gallo. Even with the other prospects thrown in we’re talking about someone who is top 10 in batting War with gold glove caliber defense and has shown this production level before(2019).

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago
Reply to  Carson Kahla

I don’t agree actually. I think that an organization could easily convince themselves they are getting an all star player that Milwaukee doesn’t have the luxury to fix while contending. Those AAA stints were laughably short to make any sort of meaningful change, someone will figure that if they stick him there for the rest of the season they can get better results.

diminishedsixthsense
5 years ago
Reply to  Carson Kahla

yeah i think the rangers certainly hang up on that call. a hiura that literally can’t hit and 2 40+/45 FVs? lmao

Ball in Glove
5 years ago

I checked this out on Baseball Trade Values and the Brewers get the most value in that deal, but if you switch out Hiura for Brice Turang, who is now completely blocked by Adames, you get a more balanced haul…at least from a surplus value aspect.

padres458
5 years ago
Reply to  Carson Kahla

Gallo is a corner outfielder who puts up 110-120 WRC+’s. He just isnt worth that much.

jgawelMember since 2020
5 years ago

A 50 FV prospect, a 45, and a 40 with an interesting statistical profile seems like a pretty hefty return for Kimbrel to me. Does the option year carry more surplus value than I’m assuming?

jmomccMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  jgawel

I’d rather just pay the price the Astros did for scherzer. Seems like better value.

g4Member since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  jgawel

Agreed, too rich for Kimbrel. Cut that return value in half and the Cubs probably still do it.

Fun read. The Gallo proposal is inspired. Ethan Small is hardly a throw-in so there is more there than just Hiura, but I just have no idea how fixable the Rangers think Hiura is to gauge realisticness .

Expo27Member since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  jgawel

Yeah, if ZiPS thinks Kevin Smith is an above average regular, is that not enough for a great but incredibly expensive closer? You have to include a consensus top 100 prospect who’s hitting in AA as a 21 year old as a throw in?

Eric B
5 years ago
Reply to  jgawel

Trading 3 quality prospects to get a 5% bump in their wild card chances definitely doesn’t seem smart especially as the Jays window of contention isn’t closing.

Also, if ZiPS is right about Smith he’s only blocked until the end of the year as I don’t see the team offering Semien a multi year extension.

Dmjn53
5 years ago
Reply to  jgawel

Seems like way too much for a reliever, especially one that not too long ago looked like he was cooked

florida ron
5 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

Clearly you have not watched Craig Kimbrel pitch this season.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago

Every time I read Dan’s version of this, I’m always really surprised by how high he sets the prospect price for players at the deadline, particularly position players and especially rentals. But then we get to that trade where the Phillies get Berrios and Buxton in the same deal and I’m like, whoa, there are not that many starters out there that you want pitching in the playoffs and aren’t rentals. He’s not even a star but the price will be outrageously high for him.

I do think the the Gallo deal is fair but I also don’t really see the Brewers paying for a gold glove right fielder when they need a guy at first base.

g4Member since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

With Garcia likely gone after this season, Gallo would move back to RF after helping the Crew win the World Series this year at 1B. 😉

Kidding aside, Milwaukee has repeatedly expressed a desire for sustainable success (as opposed to committing hard to a window), and its upper farm system is still thin. So it is hard to see them re-emptying it out for a good-not-great player like Gallo.

A man can dream.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Just wanted to update this: The Rays sending Joe Ryan and Drew Strotman to the Twins is an *enormous* haul by the standards of past deadlines for defensively limited rental bats. I know that there’s a bit of a discount here because of the Rays’ 40-man roster management but those Ryan is a good prospect and Strotman isn’t half bad either! By these standards Dan’s valuations might even count as conservative.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yep blown away by what the Twins got here, even if it mostly a symptom of how filthy rich in prospects TB is

cwood41
5 years ago

The return for the Twins is still way light for Buxton AND Berrios. You’d probably have to throw in Abel as well, and even still I don’t know if the Twins bite, with no elite headliner in the deal.

cnewty
5 years ago

Houston sends Peter Solomon, Colin Barber and Myles Straw to the Marlins for Starlin Marte with 3 year/$45MM extension. You in Dan?

alieas
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan Szymborski

Straw is an elite runner, very good defender, and has some of the best bat to ball skills in the MLB. Right now he’s in the top 25 OFs by fWAR, ahead of guys like Verdugo azoreana, Schwarber, etc. He also put up similar numbers in 2019, so his 2020 was his only bad season. His game is more or less optimized around getting on base, so right now the Astros can put him at the bottom of the lineup, and have Altuve come up to bat with one of the fastest players in baseball on base 34% of the time. I get that Marte is clearly the better player, but is half a season of Marte really worth 4.5 seasons of Straw + prospects?

jmomccMember since 2020
5 years ago

Are the Cubs paying the option year? Because that return seems hefty.

Chaise Kahlenbeck
5 years ago

Dan, as a Cubs fan, I hope this piece wills these trades into existence.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago

If Anderson is healthy, I still think Hiura for Brian Anderson is my dream deal. The Marlins love guys with awesome potential at the plate and questionable approaches, and they seem to have done something with Chisholm to turn him into an everyday player so I’d like to see what they can do with Hiura. He’s also got a lot more team control than Anderson. It’s Gallen for Chisholm all over again. Meanwhile the Brewers get a guy who can handle third base this year and for a few years going forward, and Urias can resume a role that allows him to cover for whoever is hurt and who needs a day off.

g4Member since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Not bad. I’m incapable of being objective when it comes to Hiura. For all his blatant struggles, I can’t forget the guy who absolutely raked at high levels for his age (including the bigs) from Day 1 through 2019.

D-WizMember since 2019
5 years ago

Rizzo to Boston makes all the sense in the world. It’s wild to me that the Red Sox have gotten this far into the season in a close race for the division without addressing their first base situation… Dalbec’s insane strikeout rates have made it clear for a while that he wouldn’t be a viable everyday player, yet here they are, throwing him out there every day! Who knows if that deal is ever even discussed, but of the ones listed here, to me it makes the most sense for both sides.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

I don’t really think Rizzo has a ton of value right now but he does make a huge amount of sense for the Red Sox. In a perfect world the guy the Red Sox trade for Rizzo is Dalbec. The book on Dalbec was that he was a plus fielding third baseman who might eventually run into enough pitches to hit like a Mark Reynolds or Pedro Alvarez type. He’s never going to profile at first base and there is no place for him at third in Boston. But the Cubs probably don’t want to move Patrick Wisdom either.

steveo
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yeah, Dalbec is running out of time before he gets dealt for an interesting prospect in the complex league or DSL. 40% strikeout rates don’t play, unless you hit like prime Barry Bonds in between those strikeouts. Some team like the Tigers should trade for him and play him every day and hope he can get that down to the low 30s.

cf467
5 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Totally agree. I’ve been saying Rizzo for a deal centered around Cannon for a while now. Not sure anyone will value Song like Boston does (given his military status) but Dalbec + Cannon for Rizzo seems good, especially if the Cubs throw in an org guy

Dmjn53
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

I know Rizzo’s a huge name, but he’s objectively not a particularly good player anymore. I feel like Boston can trade less for a less sexy name but get equal or greater production

florida ron
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

Rizzo bat speed has declined massively this season.

AnonMember since 2025
5 years ago

Nelson Cruz has to be moved before the deadline, right? And as incredible as it is to say it, he is probably going to be the best bat moved at the deadline. Seems like you need to include him in a piece like this.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Why is it incredible to say that a player who has been one of the absolutely best hitters in the game for the past dozen years is going to be the best bat moved before the deadline. Players of the stature of Nelson Cruz are only traded when the SHTF and never when the team is performing well.

AnonMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

I meant it in the sense that he’s 41 and still one of the best 10-20 hitters in the majors. That’s remarkable. and more remarkable to say he is the best hitter likely to be traded at the deadline (& now the likely part of that only refers to everyone else since Cruz has been traded)

dbminnMember since 2026
5 years ago

1-1/2 years each of Buxton and Berrios for a pupu platter of 45 FV prospects with no upside and a SP with poor command? Including a catcher when the Twins have three? No thanks.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago
Reply to  dbminn

I love the idea of trading these two, because Buxton is still treated like a tantalizingly unknown quantity while he isn’t (he is a great athlete who breaks constantly and has some serious plate discipline issues) and Berrios’ value won’t get higher, with his career 4.7 second half ERA.

But yeah, that return from the Phillies seems super light. Pitcher with arm issues, a bullpen guy and some lotto tickets. The fact that they are so high on the Phillies prospect ranks speaks more to the state of that farm.

jmomccMember since 2020
5 years ago

I’d much prefer to do the berrios, buxton equivalent trade if I’m the jays than the kimbrel one. You get better players under control.

travis0548Member since 2016
5 years ago

Major overpay for Kimbrel

AustinMember since 2019
5 years ago

I’m curious Dan – if the Braves were to go on a bit of a run in their next 9 games (4 at PHI, 5 at NYM), could you see them trying a similar trade for Buxton/Berrios? And what would that package look like?

Using similar FVs, my guess would be something like Langeliers, Waters, Shewmake, Shuster, Trey Harris?

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago

“Toronto Blue Jays acquire P Craig Kimbrel from the Chicago Cubs for SS Kevin Smith, 3B Jordan Groshans, and IF Miguel Hiraldo”

Yikes! This seems even worse than the Chapman/Torres trade, which I thought everyone acknowledged as a massive overpay, yet somehow necessary in a “The Cubs get a free pass on anything that helps end the drought” sense.

steveo
5 years ago

If that’s all it takes to get Joey Gallo and the Yankees don’t top that offer I will be Mad Online.

The Yankees equivalent to that is probably something like Clint Frazier, Clarke Schmidt, Josh Smith, and Oswaldo Cabrera. Yeah, that seems pretty light. The Yankees don’t have a 45 FV OF, so I subbed in a 45 FV SS in Josh Smith. Clarke Schmidt has been hurt this year, but he’s a bit more highly regarded than Small, so I guess that works? If not, then they can have Deivi Garcia or Alexander Vizcaino. I’m sure that gap can be bridged.

What I thought the trade would be is something like Ezequiel Duran, Deivi Garcia, Clint Frazier, and a lower level lotto ticket like Nicio Rodriguez. That’s two 50s, a major league piece with 3+ years of control, and a 40 FV complex league prospect.

SyndergaardengnomesMember since 2020
5 years ago

I know that the Mets have been tied to Bryant forever, but from their perspective, that trade makes zero sense. Looking at where the Mets are now, their hitters have started to come around, and yet they have about 15 pitchers on the DL. Trading the few prospects they have who aren’t untouchable, for Kris Bryant, is a luxury trade that they shouldn’t make when they are in badly need of anyone who can take the ball every 5th day.

Jeff in JerseyMember since 2020
5 years ago

Agreed. Even the bad Mets commentary has recently turned away from Bryant–not saying he wouldn’t be an upgrade at either of the spots Dan mentioned (3B/LF), but they are actually counting on Tylor Megill as their #3 starter for at least the next couple of turns through the rotation. They need someone who can give them five or six innings as soon as possible.

TulkasMember since 2024
5 years ago

I don’t think it makes zero sense, but I agree that rotation help is much much much higher on the priority list. If the Mets had a 10 game lead could coast into the postseason, I think Dan is spot on. But they don’t, and if the Mets don’t get a guy or two that put up more than 2 innings every 5 days, then they may not win the division even with a great offense.

Original Greaser Bob
5 years ago

Yeah I could see some combination of Bryant and Davies or Chaffin.

hebrewMember since 2016
5 years ago

This is why I see then selling the farm for buxton and berrios as opposed to the Phillies doing so

rhswanzey
5 years ago

Can the Red Sox have Taylor Rogers instead

Roman AjzenMember since 2020
5 years ago

Gallo and Gibson to the Padres for Weathers, Josh Mears and Jorge Mateo or Javy Guerra

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Roman Ajzen

A kid (in San Diego) can dream. Rangers fans would be breaking out the pitchforks though.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago

I see we didn’t get the coveted Starling Marte trade on this list. But between the Phillies and White Sox and Giants (and the Braves if you think they’re still have a chance, which they don’t) I could see him being a really good fit for a lot of teams. If the Red Sox didn’t have such an enormous hole at 1B and the Mets didn’t have a massive need for starting pitchers I’d say them too.

steveo
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

How about Starling Marte to the Yankees for Josh Smith and Diego Castillo. That’s a 45 FV and a 40+ FV. Two middle infielders with upside performing well at their levels. Or take a different 45 and 40. Don’t really care, just get the player.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago

Also, as long as we’re at it, I don’t think Trevor Story gets traded. If the Rockies keep him and issue a QO, they’ll get a pick at the back half of the first round and you can often find a decent prospect there. Even if you think he’s not a true-talent wRC+ 84 hitter, ZiPs only projects him for 106. I’m sure teams are interested but the Rockies really don’t have to trade him and he’s really not that big of an upgrade for a lot of these teams.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The part I am skeptical about is that the Rockies value that comp pick so highly. This is an org that has refused to concede it is rebuilding, are they going to declare victory if all they get from Story is a back end of the first round prospect who might help them 4 years from now?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago

Keep in mind, the entire front office is gone except the guy who has run their last 7 or so drafts. And if you take a college performer they could very well make it to the majors faster than some of these prospects currently in organizations.

I think the story (small case s, the Story story) is that this year, the picks in the comp round were almost all 40+, and it’s possible that because teams were picking the guys liked best that they had them rated higher. That’s about what you can expect there. You have to beat that somehow.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

True, though I had always thought the ‘no rebuild’ mentality was coming from ownership and not the front office. And they very well might finally have hit rock bottom to the point where they can’t avoid it anymore.

AnonMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Agree. Whatever they get back has to top getting the #31 pick in the 2022 draft. Of course, the history of compensation picks is spotty. Here’s an article from last offseason documenting the history of the QO and the picks rec’d by teams when the player rejected the offer:

https://www.mlb.com/news/history-of-mlb-qualifying-offer-decisions-c300602464

Top 2 are definitely Judge and Flaherty with a few younger guys who look really good. But you have to wade through a lot of guys who never did anything to find the good ones. Might be better to take a prospect about whom you have a better fix on how good he might be.

As for upgrades, the one contending team that desperately needs Story and might actually pay up for him is Cincy. The A’s should be in on Story but seem content to stick with Andrus. After those 2 you start looking at situations where teams might pick up Story and move the incumbent to 2B (Yankees) or injury fill-ins (Dodgers, Mets). The wild card is the Rays. Yes they have Wander and just traded a good young player in Adames to make room for Wander, but they are bargain hunters and if the price gets low enough I could see them making a move on Story and just figuring out what to do the rest of the way

steveo
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think something like Oswald Peraza + lower level chips for Story and Gray + money is fair. That would probably be worth it for them.

JoeyVottoIsGoneMember since 2016
5 years ago

The sad thing is that the most realistic trade proposal is the Reds not doing anything.

steveo
5 years ago

To be fair, not like they have a lot of guys to deal on short term contracts. I guess they could trade Castellanos? Though he’s gonna opt out at the end of the year.

David Klein
5 years ago
Reply to  steveo

They should move Miley

David Klein
5 years ago

Why would the Mets give up two of their top ten top prospects for a rental in Bryant when they need pitching? Also Dom Smith had a good June and is having a big a huge July. Not big on JD Davis at third base but you can live with him and Villar splitting time there.

Dooduh
5 years ago
Reply to  David Klein

Yeah the Mets aren’t dealing 2 of their top 10 prospects, one of which is prob already a top 100 guy in some lists and the other may be a year from now for a 2 month rental that doesn’t even fill their most pressing need.

The Mets finally have a robust (if top heavy) group of prospects. I can’t see the logic in pushing big chips into the pot chasing slim WS odds, especially when their window should remain open for a while. The future looks very bright now in Queens. Now isn’t the time to do something foolish. What they should do is add a Tyler Anderson type of SPer who they can get some innings out of every 5th day, and 1 or 2 pen arms. This is where they will get more value and it won’t cost them any big bullets.

Connor Grey
5 years ago

Earlier this year, I thought it was very likely that Vientos would be traded before the deadline. But the more I’ve seen what he’s been able to do in Double-A as a 21 year old, the more I want the Mets to keep him. He hits 400+ foot homers with as much ease as I’ve ever seen from someone as young as he is. And he hasn’t been striking out nearly as often as he was at the beginning of the year.

But he needs to be added to the 40 man after this year and it seems like his defense might be terrible at whatever position the Mets decide to put him at in the majors.

Not to mention the Mets also have Baty and Mauricio on similar timelines as Vientos. And Alonso, Smith, and JD Davis are under control for several more years after this one. I’d trade him straight up for Bryant but I wouldn’t be happy if they included Ginn too.

GrandpaboyMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Connor Grey

Cubs fan here, and I’d be *ecstatic* if Bryant fetched Vientos and Ginn. Seems a bit rich, but when your owner’s worth $16B and wants to win now…

airforce21oneMember since 2026
5 years ago

“ZiPS already gave [Kevin] Smith pretty good odds of peaking at league-average coming into the season and now sees a very good chance that he’ll be a three WAR or better player in his prime.”

Where does one find this info?

VinnieDaGooch
5 years ago

No way in hell I would take that trade if I were the Twins

BrodieVanOhGodOhNoItsHappeningAgainMember since 2024
5 years ago

Please DM Zack Scott and let him know about the whole Buxton/Berrios plan so he can beat Philly to it.

Rich Rieders
5 years ago

The Mets certainly have room on the DL for Buxton

sweepcut
5 years ago

any dodgers trades??

Chili Davis Eyes
5 years ago

This is completely unfair. I’m pretty sure Dan has played Hearthstone at least one time.

baseballenjoyer
5 years ago

I’m not sure Greinke would be guaranteed a start in a playoff series, especially with the addition of Scherzer. You’d think Valdez, McCullers, García and Scherzer would all be ahead of him in the pecking order.

Jasper FranciscoMember since 2017
5 years ago

Oakland is stuck with Andrus. Once he got traded, a full NTC kicked in. On top of that, there’s a $15M club option that becomes a player option with 1) trade or waiver claim and 2) 550 plate appearances in 2022 or 1,100 PAs in 2021-22 combined.

With the money Texas is kicking back to Oakland, getting someone to take Piscotty would do roughly the same thing ($7.6M vs. $7M for Andrus), but we’re talking about a dude with a busted wrist and a -0.7 WAR.

sikspiral13
5 years ago

Seems shaky that Toronto has no left handed bats in the mix for a 1B/DH/Corner Outfield musical chairs, and that their pitching is so shaky when they are obv in compete now window with Semien. Let’s sweeten the pot and get the Jays everything they need in a 3-way spectacular:

Jays Get:
Rizzo and Kimbrel from Cubs AND Scherzer and Schwarber from Nationals.

Cubs get:
Jordan Groshans
Kevin Smith
Eric Pardinho
Rikelvin De Castro
CJ Van Eyk

Nationals Get:
Alejandro Kirk
Miguel Hiraldo
Simeon Woods Richardson

I have no idea who would or would not do this, but it seems like everyone is getting good talent, and Blue Jays retain Martin, Pearson, Orelvis and Moreno. Cubs get better pieces in this than what you proposed from Boston and similar package from Blue Jays to Chicago for Kimbrel. Nationals would have to consider this deal anyway in a vacuum.

JupiterBrandoMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  sikspiral13

That’s still way too much for the Jays to give up, and it’s the kind of trade that forced them to rebuild in the first place. They’re far enough behind the Rays and Sox that they’re still likely playing for the WC game and their pitching isn’t strong enough to carry them deep anyway. I think they do a few spruce-up trades, but keep their chips from the offseason when they have a better sense of where they are with Pearson and Manoah.

florida ron
5 years ago

See you got the required shot in for the Cubs trading Darvish. You boys are going to have to start updating this to mention two of the prospects they received are looking like gold out in Arizona this summer.

SenorGato
5 years ago

For Cubs the Kimbrel’s one isn’t the worst and they’re probably realistic enough in this very bleak looking seller’s market, but also the best prospects coming back in all those deals are the kind of prospects available with a comp pick

Khalil Lee added to that Mets/Bryant deal maybe makes it worthwhile enough, probably not but no one really cares either way. I’d rather see them go for a little less redundancy with Kimbrel, swap out Smith for Palacios and the non-Groshans IF for Kloffenstein or SWR.

BTW how loser-y is the Cubs’ fanbase? This same gaggle of dodos threw their money to wait ’til next year as a youth and have now decided that actually it’s five years of losing for every 4-5 years of competing. See it’s part of the Win Cycle or whatever which is 100% not made up by and for any ownership, who never plans to have an off year or 5 financially…It truly is something to watch specifically how deft it is, just playing the crap out of millions of long defeated, plenty comfortable people…Aye aye aye! I think the fanbase is every bit as bad as and happy to think in lockstep with the Ricketts family on the whole, remind me alot of the an NFL fanbase actually