Manny Are Called, Few Are Hit

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Manny Machado was in the news last week for what got called an anti-analytics rant. This would’ve been a bigger deal 10 or 15 years ago, when front offices were still coming to grips with empirical study as a part of scouting and player development, but that battle’s over now. The nerds are here.

Machado said the game’s getting harder to play, and that there are “too many stats out there. Too many stats, way too many numbers. I don’t even know half of the stuff that goes up there. I look at the board sometimes, and I even ask some of the guys, like, ‘What is WCCVBB, whatever it is?’… It’s crazy to even keep up with.”

As someone who makes his living using WCCVBB, I think Machado’s actually got a point here. I’m an analyst with a social science background: There is no stat so newfangled I won’t poke it to see if it’ll teach me — or better yet, you, the fans — something new about the game.

Machado’s job isn’t to get in the lab and find new insights using bat tracking data. His job is to hit the ball and catch the ball. However useful the new alphabet soup might be to me, it’s useless to him if he can’t use it to help him hit better. And after 15 seasons of Hall of Fame-quality performance, I trust Machado to know the level of information he needs to do his job well.

Reading Machado’s comments fully, he wasn’t making a broad, principled statement about the place of empirics in baseball coaching. He acknowledged how much the game has evolved during his career, but also jabbed at the media for being negative. The Padres had just lost, and he’s not playing well, and he was upset.

Besides, numerate baseball fans don’t need Machado to have a good relationship with stats. They need him to hit. Which he’s not. Which is the real problem.

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And it’s a new one. Since his major league debut in 2012, Machado has had one of the highest floors in baseball. He came into this season on a run of 13 straight seasons of at least 250 plate appearances and a wRC+ of 100 or better. Only Freddie Freeman can beat that claim. (Bryce Harper would, too, but he missed the cutoff by six plate appearances in 2020, so I’m inclined to let him by the bouncer on this fun fact, as well.)

Machado has had his ups and downs, and his injuries, but he’s never been bad before. His only full season of less than 2.5 WAR was 2017, when he hit 33 home runs in 156 games, but his defensive metrics at third base dipped from excellent to well below average for a single season.

This year is the exception. Through 65 games, Machado has a wRC+ of 68. To put that in old-timey baseball stats, he’s hitting .172/.253/.345, and he’s striking out at the highest rate of his career. (K% is under the “advanced” tab on our stats pages, but kids learn percentages in elementary school, so how advanced can it really be?)

Whether Machado has been bad is not an interesting question to me. We can tell that this is so using the stats we had in the 1950s. I want to know how it’s happening. More specifically, I want to know whether it’s going to keep happening. We see big, right-handed power hitters fall off a cliff all the time. The bat speed starts to go, and they can compensate for a while, and then it all collapses in a season or two. Presumably the Padres, who have Machado signed through 2033 at an AAV of $31.8 million, are also interested in this question.

There’s some good news right off the proverbial bat: It looks like Machado is having some truly catastrophic batted ball luck. This is a hitter with a career .295 BABIP, who’s BABIPing .176 this year. Some of that is his fault, but unless he’s forgotten which end of the bat to hold, he’s getting unlucky, too.

On to the part that is his fault. Machado’s lost 55 points of wRC+ from last year to this year, and the fury of the BABIP gods can’t explain all of it. On this graph, you can see that while he’s massively underperforming his expected stats, his quality of contact has nosedived.

That warrants a look into Machado’s swing and plate discipline. I’ll explain briefly what I was terrified of finding.

Sometimes, a power hitter will feel his bat speed going and compensate by putting more effort into the swing. That means guessing more, and selling out for power instead of balancing power with contact and plate discipline. You’ll see the home run total stay the same for a couple years, but the OBP will gradually drop, until he can no longer compensate, and all of a sudden you have late-2010s Albert Pujols.

The Old Manny and the Sea
Season BatSpd FastSw% HardHit% O-Swing% Z-Swing% Z-Contact% Pull% EV90
2023 76.7 66.6% 45.9% 29.3% 69.5% 85.3% 38.4% 107.6
2024 75.2 52.6% 48.8% 29.7% 72.4% 85.5% 37.4% 107.7
2025 74.5 43.0% 51.5% 29.8% 70.0% 83.3% 37.6% 107.7
2026 74.4 40.7% 42.3% 31.1% 68.8% 83.8% 42.9% 105.9

I don’t see especially powerful evidence that that’s happening here. Machado has lost a tick of bat speed and a couple points of Z-Contact% since 2023, but he was a monster bat speed guy back then and he’s still well above average. Also, the man is 33 years old and is coming up on his 2,000th major league game — I think it’s fair to expect his physical abilities to slide a little without raising too many alarms.

Machado is chasing a little more this year, but we’re talking about a single-digit number of swings across the season. That can be explained by any number of factors, especially when he’s clearly frustrated with his performance. Either way, he’s swinging more or less how he was swinging last year, when he was really good.

There are two numbers that give me concern, and I’ll admit up front that I don’t know how these two figures alone could tank Machado’s season. We’re into the realm of educated guesswork.

Compared to the three prior seasons, Machado is letting the ball get deeper into the hitting zone before he intercepts it: roughly four inches deeper than in 2024-25, and six inches deeper than in 2023. Is that the result of a decrease in bat speed? Maybe to some extent, but he’s also standing three or four inches deeper in the box than he did in the past three years. His stance, which has always been wide open, has closed up by a couple degrees.

At the same time, he’s pulling the ball more — even pulling the ball more in the air — than he did in any of those three foregoing campaigns. He’s also lost nearly two miles per hour of EV90.

Is Machado stepping in the bucket? That’s hard to diagnose on a season-by-season basis from TV. The center field camera angle at Petco Park isn’t that good, and Machado will sometimes deliberately open his hips early to get around on an inside pitch.

The other number that disturbs me is Machado’s swing rate on pitches in the center of the strike zone.

I think I retroactively failed a statistics class with the Y-axis scale here, but the downturn is real. For most of his time in San Diego, Machado would swing at about 80% of pitches in the heart of the strike zone. This year, that’s down to 72.6%, which is significant no matter how you format the graph. Pitches in this zone aren’t always easy to hit, but they are literally always strikes when you don’t swing. And taking more strikes is bad for a hitter, for reasons you don’t need an analytics background to explain.

I don’t know exactly what’s wrong with Machado. Between the new batting position and the reduced heart-zone swing rate, I wonder if Machado is somehow not seeing the ball as well as he’s used to. Maybe he needs glasses. The fact that Fernando Tatis Jr. famously didn’t hit a home run until May 30 makes me wonder if there’s a deleterious metaphysical presence in the Padres’ clubhouse. Is there a golem? Do they all have mono or something?

I’m sympathetic to Machado’s frustration, and agree that more data might not necessarily be the answer. But something’s got to change. See the eye doctor. Get an exorcism. Wash your hands. This can’t keep going on forever.





Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.

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traderted2Member since 2026
1 month ago

Isn’t the reason you don’t want your star veterans mocking or whining about analytics the message it sends to the rest of the clubhouse?

At least as I understand it talking to my one friend in baseball ops, it’s often a delicate affair to try to get players to buy into doing things that (1) the data supports but (2) run counterintuitive to the way players were taught the game growing up. And so at least on his team, when a player made a change based on one of the nerds’ recommendations and it got good results, it was a huge deal when that player would talk positively about the nerds within the clubhouse because it helped convince other on-the-fence players that they should take the nerds seriously. Ben Lindbergh and Sam Miller talk about the struggle for credibility in the clubhouse similarly in “The Only Rule Is It Has To Work.”

On the other hand, if you’re a young, impressionable Padres hitter who’s been approached by a coach or front office person with an unconventional plan for improvement and your de facto team captain has just made the nerds a punchline and complained about their influence on the game, I can imagine that leading to a different result.

Last edited 1 month ago by traderted2
PC1970Member since 2024
1 month ago
Reply to  traderted2

I tend to agree.

However, it also depends how it’s presented. I am in sales, selling large complex items that involve multi year projections with many moving parts & one of the key items is always simplying things for the client. If they’re confused, they’re not going to buy in.

Guess what I’m saying is if the data guys aren’t presenting it in a manner that’s understandable, it may not be helping. Considering Machado is not alone in being a struggling Padres hitter, I wonder if that may be the case.

traderted2Member since 2026
1 month ago
Reply to  PC1970

yeah it’s completely possible that this is symptomatic of bad delivery by the team. I just don’t buy that it’s irrelevant whether Manny is openly calling this stuff dumb

TKDCMember since 2016
1 month ago
Reply to  traderted2

I think those days are pretty much long gone. It’s almost quant at this point for a struggling player to try to make analytics a convenient whipping boy. It reminds us of a previous generation when it might have mattered. It just doesn’t anymore. As was stated in the article: it’s over, the nerds are here.

traderted2Member since 2026
1 month ago
Reply to  TKDC

there’s no doubt the nerds are here when it comes to front offices – and even managers and managerial candidates know better than to grouse about the state of the game. But has it permeated the clubhouse to the same extent? FG had the Benintendi quotes a couple of days ago to the effect of, “Yeah, yeah, I’ll change my offensive approach to favor more slug because that’s apparently what gets people paid these days, but it’s dumb that people are so obsessed with stuff like OPS now” (which is itself funny because OPS isn’t a cutting-edge stat)

TKDCMember since 2016
1 month ago
Reply to  traderted2

It’s very clearly permeated with pitchers. I’ve seen several interviews with Grant Holmes of all people (not to stereotype, but his nickname from some fans is Kenny Powers) and he’s talking about spin rates and induced break and all this stuff. If you’re just talking about the 17th different way to measure success, then it doesn’t really matter how much players buy into it. But I doubt very seriously Machado is ignoring anything that might help him succeed out of some weird battle with the nerds. This is almost certainly just a frustrated player and what do you expect? It’s human nature to deflect and placate your own pride and ego. I’m not even mad at him for it. He’s just a human after all.

thaaldermanMember since 2024
1 month ago
Reply to  traderted2

“The Only Rule Is It Has to Work” had such an interesting premise and should have been so good, but it was just 400 pages of nerds vs jocks social conflict. One of the most disappointing books I’ve ever read.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
1 month ago
Reply to  traderted2

I feel like every team should have a group of former players who liaise between the quants and the active players. Guys who understand and believe in what the nerds are saying, but can communicate it to players in traditional baseball terms.

In fact, I’d be shocked to hear about any team that doesn’t. If Machado doesn’t speak nerd, he shouldn’t even know that WCCVBB exists.

Elijah GinsburgMember since 2024
1 month ago

One vote here for %’s on the dashboard tab instead of /9’s
🙂

RyanMember since 2016
1 month ago

Agreed!

C Beisbol
1 month ago
Reply to  Ryan

Thirded

Big Daddy V
1 month ago

Wait! You forgot to tell us what WCCVBB is!

Yer Main GuyMember since 2024
1 month ago
Reply to  Big Daddy V

The next great backronym opportunity. Maybe invent a stat showing players declining with age and call it … weighted contact created by veterans of base ball?

Groundout
1 month ago
Reply to  Yer Main Guy

Weighted changeup/curveball velocity on walks?

JuuuustAnotherBaseballFanMember since 2018
1 month ago

I imagine it must be maddening for a veteran hitter to not know why he’s not hitting, but then get barraged with newfound statistics that make one’s head spin. Hopefully they’re just trying to help him to actually hit the ball again without getting too deep into the fancy numbers… but yeah, bring in that optometrist just in case.

Last edited 1 month ago by JuuuustAnotherBaseballFan
sloejoeMember since 2025
1 month ago

Tatis and Merrill are also not hitting. Could it be a new batting philosophy that Machado is fed up with and speaking out against?

tbwhite67Member since 2020
1 month ago
Reply to  sloejoe

Winner winner chicken dinner. Who have been the Padres “best” hitters this year? Ty France and Miguel Andujar. What do they have in common, they weren’t here last year. Who has struggled the most, Tatis, Merrill, Machado guys that were here last year. Gavin Sheets is basically the only holdover from last year who hasn’t declined. It has not been a smooth transition to the new hitting regime, literally no one has improved and all of the best players have declined dramatically.

96mncMember since 2020
1 month ago
Reply to  sloejoe

In Manny’s case it’s just the natural aging progression that he needs to make physical adjustments to compensate for. Happens to every hitter.

Merrill needs a bit more top hand work. He’s a tad bottom hand dominant and it’s why he fouls back, pops up, or flyes out on pitches he’s got perfectly timed and should be crushing.

Tatis’ lower body mechanics have been a mess all season.

There are physical technique issues with all three guys. Whether there are coaches in place to help them fix these issues in season is a different question.

airforce21oneMember since 2026
1 month ago

Machado’s job isn’t to get in the lab and find new insights using bat tracking data. His job is to hit the ball and catch the ball.”

So….shut up and dribble, Manny? Is that what we’re saying here?

drplantwrenchMember since 2024
1 month ago
Reply to  airforce21one

that is definitely not what shut up and dribble is referring to

Yer Main GuyMember since 2024
1 month ago
Reply to  drplantwrench

And I would not characterize the article as being hostile to Manny speaking his mind.

Last edited 1 month ago by Yer Main Guy
airforce21oneMember since 2026
1 month ago
Reply to  drplantwrench

“He’s [Machado] also clearly not very bright, standing against the very core of what FanGraphs and most successful professional sports organizations stand for.”

-FanGraphs writer Vlad Sedler, June 17th, 2026

Last edited 1 month ago by airforce21one
si.or.noMember since 2017
1 month ago
Reply to  airforce21one

I feel like you read the blurb, but not the actual article.

wordflyerMember since 2025
1 month ago

Not the main topic here, but DRS thinks 2017 was one of Manny’s better defensive seasons, and I’m pretty sure that fWAR that year calculated from UZR, not statcast until it was retroactively updated. While offense is a bit easier to be objective about, it’s not surprising to see players get frustrated by “advanced stats,” when we can’t even agree what good defense is with them.

fanofthemanMember since 2020
1 month ago

I wonder if there’s something up with the batting eye in Petco. Anybody know how opposing teams are hitting vs previous years?

chewbaccaMember since 2025
1 month ago

FREAKING LOVE THIS ARTICLE!

chewbaccaMember since 2025
1 month ago

I sure hope someone in the Padres or the Manny universe contacts you on this. If not, I’d be way disappointed. Thanks for a great article!

96mncMember since 2020
1 month ago

“Machado is letting the ball get deeper into the hitting zone before he intercepts it: roughly four inches deeper than in 2024-25, and six inches deeper than in 2023. Is that the result of a decrease in bat speed?”

As you age you lose trigger quickness…that happens to every hitter. People used to call it a decrease in reaction time aa if it’s a vision issue but he’s really just the loss of fast twitch muscle fibers in your forearms (just like a sprinter slows a bit or your can’t jump as high). Manny is trying to compensate for that by moving back in the box.

What he needs to be doing is rebuilding his swing to shorten up the initial movement. Some hitters do this by lowering their hands a bit, Papi’s hands got lower as he aged as an example. Christian Walker has made nice adjustments this year to get shorter after his disastrous 2025.

It’s all about Manny realizing he has to rebuild his hand setup and load and then being willing to work on it and do it. Whether that can be done in season is a different story.

A Salty ScientistMember since 2024
1 month ago
Reply to  96mnc

This is an interesting take. I’ve thought since we’ve gotten bat tracking data that decreases in ‘reaction times’ might be more important for aging for some hitters than loss of bat speed. Giancarlo Stanton has near top of the scale bat speed, but still notably declined in his 30s. It will be interesting to see bat tracking data through the years. Would love to see a quantification of trigger timing.

96mncMember since 2020
1 month ago

“I’ve thought since we’ve gotten bat tracking data that decreases in ‘reaction times’ might be more important for aging for some hitters than loss of bat speed.”

We’ll get it eventually.

Joe Morgan used to say, “To be a good hitter you’ve got to either be quick or strong. Great hitters are both.”

Trigger reaction is the “quick” part.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
1 month ago
Reply to  96mnc

I don’t think talk about “reaction time” is about vision, though? Without taking a position on the cause of hitter aging specifically, it’s well documented that humans lose cognitive reaction speed as they age. Presumably muscle loss isn’t the reason that teenagers are better than 35-year-olds at Tetris.

96mncMember since 2020
1 month ago

“it’s well documented that humans lose cognitive reaction speed as they age. Presumably muscle loss isn’t the reason that teenagers are better than 35-year-olds at Tetris.”

Tbh I’ve never read much on the subject. But now I’m intrigued.

I do know that athletes aren’t physically as explosive/quick at 35 as they are at 25. They can remain nearly as strong though.

Both might be happening.

Regardless, the answer for either (or both) is to shorten up your swing.

Adam SMember since 2016
1 month ago
Reply to  96mnc

I think this is it, and not just for Machado. Some athletes (well, not just athletes) decline slower physically than others. But some adjust better to that decline that others. It’s why some players fall off a cliff — they used to succeed with a given approach but their body can’t do it and they can’t adjust to their new skill set.

I fear (for Padres fans) that Machado is done. Not as bad as he’s been but a serious decline that’s going to make him a 1-1.5 fWAR player for the rest of his contract.

96mncMember since 2020
1 month ago
Reply to  Adam S

In the post steroid era of baseball normal aging curves apply again. These teams committing longterm deals to hitters through their 30s are crazy.

Adam SMember since 2016
1 month ago

You note this, but we don’t need any kind of analytics to know that .172/.253/.345 is really bad. Dansby Swanson has been awful, so much that he’s been moved to 9th and given some extra days of rest, and he’s outhitting that line plus playing elite defense.