Mark Reynolds Is Horri-Bad at Defense
Every year, there’s at least one player that has an absolute fail-tacular year in the field. Jermaine Dye in 2009 (-22 UZR). Ken Griffey Jr. in 2007 (-29 UZR). Brad Hawpe in 2008 (-36 UZR). These players all had good years at the plate, but their defense was so excessively poor that they ended up negating a large portion of the value they provided to their team.
This year’s candidate to join this illustrious group? Mark Reynolds. After spending most of the season at third base or first base, Reynolds currently has the worst UZR score in the majors: 22 runs below average. And not only that, but Reynolds also has the lowest Defensive Runs Saved (DRS) rating of the year (-32 runs), he’s tied for the most amount of errors in the majors (26), and his Fielding Percentage is by far the worst in the majors (.897). I don’t like using Fielding Percentage as an evaluative tool, but when the next worst person is a full 50 points better than you, your glove is pretty darn bad.
When looking at these numbers, two questions pop into my head. How often is it that DRS and UZR both agree like this? And should the Orioles put Reynolds at DH once Guerrero is gone?
It’s not very common that both the traditional and the advanced fielding metrics align, but we shouldn’t be that surprised by the fact that both UZR and DRS have very similar ratings for Reynolds. In general, both these defensive systems agree much more often than they disagree; in fact, the two statistics have a strong correlation for the 2011 season (.70), and have very few disagreements on the extreme ends of the spectrum. If a player is particularly good or bad at defense, it doesn’t matter which defensive rating you prefer, their defensive skill (or lack thereof) will shine through.

Quick example: Top and Bottom Three by UZR
That’s not to say you should only look at one statistic; since defensive stats are still a work in progress, it’s always good to have more information, especially if you’re looking at a player who rates out closer to average. But I simply wanted to make the point that in my experience, DRS and UZR agree much more often than they disagree, and I find that extremely encouraging. If you trust one but not the other, you should realize that despite their different methodologies, both stats are telling you largely the same thing.
To return to Reynolds for a second, though, as tempting as it say the Orioles would be better off if they were DH’ing him, that’s not entirely true. Since Reynolds has spend the majority of the year at third base and dabbled at first base, his positional adjustment has so far been almost exactly zero. If he had spent the season at DH, his adjustment would have been a much heftier -22.5 runs.
So by playing third base horribly, Reynolds has been worth around -22 runs in the field. Meanwhile, if he had played DH instead, he’s have been worth….-22 runs.
This has been a horrible year for Reynolds in the field. While he’s always been a below average fielder, this season he’s taken things to a whole new level. But hey, that’s how baseball goes, right? Adam Dunn is having an outlier year at the plate, so it shouldn’t be inconceivable that a player could have a disastrous year in the field. Talent levels change, performances fluctuate — when you’re dealing with humans, you have to accept that performances aren’t always going to follow smooth trends.
If Reynolds can return to only being a -10 fielder at third base, the Orioles would be better off keeping him there than moving him to DH. But will he? How much will he regress next year toward his career average? I’m sure the Orioles are asking themselves the same question.
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Cool article. Didn’t realize just how bad you are suppose to be at fielding before you should full-time DH.
Maybe we can nickname him E3…
Speaking of bad fielding, after a month or so in the season, E5 really seemed to turn it around. Did he magically learn how to throw the ball or something? What happened? His early season pace was the among the worst in history or something like that.
EE call him ‘Double E’ as he leads the Jays in doubles, hasn’t seen much third base lately. They are taking a look at some Canadian kid, but I’m sure he’ll be manning the hot corner next April.
He’s a DH and occasional fill-in at the corners. They keep him as far away from the field as possible…check his innings total in the field the last few months.
Wait, is it horri-bad, or horri-awful, like a Craig Sager suit? These are important distinctions.
Why do you say he’d be worth -22 runs at DH? Positional adjustment for DH is -17.5 runs per 600 PA’s (per fangraphs’ methodology). Reynolds has 560 PA’s, so as a DH his defense+position would be worth -16.3 this year (as opposed to the -22.7 runs its actually been worth).
But that’s probably affected by sample size issues. For his career, his defense+position would have been worth -83.0 runs as a DH, instead of the -41.7 runs he’s been worth while playing 3B/1B.
Technically the DH positional adjustment is -22.5 runs for fielding and +5 runs for the difficulty of only hitting, which makes -17.5 runs. So that’s probably where the erroneous -22.5 runs comes from.
This is really helpful to know. Can I ask where you got it? Or did you just know it because you’re Elwin and you’re awesome?
Ah, I see. Good point. And it makes sense in this case to use the -22.5 adjustment, because Reynolds’ hitting isn’t currently being affected by the amorphous difficulty of being a permanent pinch-hitter.
http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/paradox_of_the_dh_adjustment/
For more DH positional adjustment goodness. Gotta love Tom. Although I never have found a full study supporting that “it is tougher to just hit.” I’ve always just seen it as assumed.
The Orioles announcers have been raving about how fantastic he is as a first baseman. Any way you can break it down by position? For the Orioles, the best place for him may be 1B if the announcers have any idea what they are talking about. I did see him make some decent plays there for what that’s worth.
Because 1B don’t generally have to make throws across the diamond, and they can just knockj the ball down, pick it up, and step on 1st.
MR has also had a couple of picks on balls in the dirt for web gems.
At this point in his career, I don;t think mark reynolds gives a [cuss] about defense. Just my impression, not that worthwhile.
I thought MR had more trouble throwing the ball than fielding the ball, but a career 53 throwing errors is as bad as the 55 fielding errors.
Mark Reynolds glove is made by Everlast.
UZR/150 at 1B: -7.3/-24.9 (season/career)
There is a chance he has improved at 1B to merely bad, but he has been terrible there in the past (SSS caveat for both season and career numbers).
one year uzr score blah blah blah etc
Ok, I think something in the methodology of positional adjustments just doesnt pass the sniff test. So Mark Reynolds is basically the worst fielder in the league this year or close to it? Yet he wouldnt have been any more valuable as a DH? So a -22 run fielder is as valuable in the field as he would be just hitting? How bad does a guy have to be in the field to justify moving him to DH? Glenallen Hill at SS bad? Hitting should be measure the same regardless of what position you play and defense should be measured according to its total impact to the team, not compared to league average for the position. Bill James argued against positional adjustments to hitting in Win Shares and I think the above examination of Mark Reynolds proves it by comparing his horrible fielding to his supposed value as a DH.
The “value” of WAR has to do with what players get paid. A team isn’t going to hand out a contract to a DH that values him any better than one of the worst fielders in baseball.
For a team, the question isn’t how to maximize a particular player’s value, but how to win games. So whether it makes sense for a particular player to be a DH depends on what other players the team has. What the WAR calculation shows is that, if you have a player at -22.5 Defense+Position, you can go out on the free agent market and sign someone to play his position, or you can sign a DH for equal money, and you’re likely to be equally well off.
Via observation, he was miserably bad for a 2-3 month stretch in the first half of the season and has been significantly better since.
Also he has looked a lot better in his handful of 1B games.
What does the stats say?
What does grammar say?
Where on this site can I find the positional adjustment ratings and (more importantly) the research underlying what they are? I looked for them when examining WAR, and couldn’t find them cited anywhere there.
Zips updated has reynolds at about +15 batting runnings. Add this up with +22 replacment, – 17.5 positional adjustment for DH, and +0 base running add up to an average player at 2.0 WAR. Seems hard to believe Reynolds wouldn’t be better utilized at DH, given he hasn’t even cracked 1.0 WAR this year
Being a D-Backs fan I had the chance to see MR on a daily basis for a few seasons and I know just how bad he can be. The problem with him is that he’ll make amazing plays and fans will forget about how bad he really is as a defender. He seems to have the same mindset to defense as he does to his strike out numbers.
The threshold levels for “whether they should DH” are as follow, per 150 games:
Catcher: -27.8 fielding runs
First base: -4.6 fielding runs
Second base: -18.5 fielding runs
Third base: -18.5 fielding runs
Shortstop: -23.1 fielding runs
Left field: -9.3 fielding runs
Center field: -18.5 fielding runs
Right field: -9.3 fielding runs
Source (and more): http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/to-dh-or-not-to-dh-that-is-the-question/
That is to say that by DHing, their WAR would increase
I’m not really sure I get it. To me it’s no brainer. Assuming the O’s get no good FA(Fielder, etc.) next yr, a player like Andino at 3rd with Mark at DH makes a lot of sense. For costs Andino is really a better value at hitter than Vlad and a better fielder than Mark, so that leaves DH and 1b open for Chris Davis and Mark. And if they are both hitting the ball why wouldn’t you start the better fielder at 1b and have the other guy ride the pine for half the game?
Have you guys watched him play live?
He’s so bad Leyland makes our guys aim for third base when we play against him.
Add to the point that he’s very easy to strike out (especially for me) and you have a pretty overall terrible ballplayer.
I’d almost consider using Inge over him if I had to.
Mark Reynolds has 32 HRs and a WAR of 0.7– closer to replacement level than league average. Suppose Reynolds finishes with 36 HRs and maintains his current WAR. How many players in MLB history have hit 35+ HRs and have a WAR below 1?
Well, I just looked it up.
3 players have accomplished this feat. Mark Reynolds will soon join an exclusive club, including the likes of-
Tony Armas 1983: 36HR, -1.4WAR
Dave Kingman 1986: 35HR, -1.4WAR
Rocky Colavito 1960: 35HR, .7WAR
Congratulations, Mark Reynolds.
… and yet ARZ gets criticized for letting go of their high K, power only, type hitters.
Reynolds moves toward replacement level. ARZ moves to the playoffs.
They pay me to hit HR’s.
I hit HR’s.
What’s the big deal?
They pay me to strike out hitters.
They don’t pay me or anyone else to strike you out Mark.
It’s simply expected of any major leaguer who takes the mound against you.
I’m pretty sure if Rolando Arrojo came out of retirement he could fairly easily strike you out still.
You really are that bad.
I was just being tongue-in-cheek
I think the “win” statistic is going to your head, Justin.
Mark, you think its just the wins getting to my head?
No.
It’s also the k’s, the ERA, the peripherals, and the publicity that are also getting to my head.
That makes sense.
I just swing for the fences every single pitch. You’d be surprised how many idiots give me fastballs right down the middle.
Oh shit! Did you say Rolando Arrojo was coming out of retirement?!? That guy is an ace….
Leave me out of this JV!
No, Im not coming out of retirement.
But if I did, yes, I probably could strike you out reasonably easily.
seems like yet another case of the simple, traditional stat (fielding percentage) describing perfectly well what it took a lot longer to say with advanced sabrmetrics. note that uggla, who is also cited above using drs and uzr, is next-to-last in fielding percentage (to rickie weeks, whose sample size is much smaller). ibanez only has one error, but you don’t have to look any further than total chances in his innings played to see that he’s not getting to nearly as many balls as other outfielders.
“seems like yet another case of the simple, traditional stat (fielding percentage) describing perfectly well what it took a lot longer to say with advanced sabrmetrics. ”
Yeah? And a broken clock is right a couple times a day [and close a bunch of times too]. That doesn’t mean that the broken clock is about as good as the atomic clock for telling time…
ok, completely meaningless analogy, but my point was it doesn’t take sabrmetrics to determine mark reynolds is bad at defense. fielding percentage did it much more simply. we overanalyze these things at time. another good example is the power rankings. do we really need war% to tell us the yankees, red sox, phillies, rangers, brewers and diamondbacks are the six best teams right now? couldn’t we just look at wins to get that? plus, what good does war% do for you if you’re ranked higher with that stat than someone else, but they make the playoffs and you don’t? there couldn’t be a more important — or simple — stat than wins, why should we try to replace that?
point is, we can fall in love with more numbers, but often the simplest ones tell the story just as well. that sure is the case with mark reynolds and his defense.