Members Only Game Thread: ALDS – Oct 5, 2026
Welcome to our Open Game Thread for the ALDS Game 2. Chat with fellow readers as we watch the White Sox at Guardians and Yankees at Rays. Only Members can participate, and unlike our usual game chats, your messages will be posted immediately.
Our Member community is made up of thousands of incredibly knowledgable baseball fans, and we think this is a great way to follow a game with like-minded baseball enthusiasts. We might even have some FanGraphs Staff drop in and join the fun. Please be courteous to your fellow Members, or you may find your chat privileges revoked.
We are going to have Members Only Game Threads for the rest of the postseason. The next one will be tomorrow, October 6 at 6:00PM.
Sean Dolinar
Hi all!
Keaton Arneson
Hi Sean
Sean Dolinar
Everyone should respond to our polls. Including you, Keaton!
Sean Dolinar
Guardians are at 0% so I know you haven't voted yet.
Keaton Arneson
I didn't see the poll. Maybe we need a cool sound alert for it.
Yer Main Guy
Hi Sean and Keaton
Sean Dolinar
If you weren't in one of our Game Threads last week, all of you drive the chat. We do have writers that will drop in. Here are a few feature highlights:
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Chad Young
I am going to try to hang out here, but I am not sure my nerves can take chatting while watching this.
Sean Dolinar
Which team are you nervous for?
Chad Young
I am a Guardians fan, but to add to my anxiety, I lived in Chicago for over a decade and so I have probably seen more Guardians-Sox games in my life than any other pair of teams.
Chad Young
Gavin needs to find that inside corner to lefties. Got a break on the 0-1 to Teel but can't count on that
Chad Young
Pretty solid inning for Williams. Not sure what happened there with Vargas, but good recovery. Suspect he was a little amped up and it impacted his control.
Chad Young
An underrated storyline in this one is the importance for the Guardians to jump out to a big early lead. It's not important for them, but I have to leave to pick up my daughter in a little over an hour and I would like to feel a little calmer when that happens.
Sean Dolinar
Low leverage while you run errands? Then they can make it close once you get back!
lzfreak
I wonder what kind of odds you could've gotten two years ago that the White Sox would be in a division series in 2026
Chad Young
You could have gotten crazy odds on that in March. Probably still in May to be honest.
Jason B
Maybe the Rockies and Angels are taking copious notes. "Try sucking waaaay less…hmmmm…."
Chad Young
Kay has stymied the Guards but that has less to do with him, specifically and more to do with the hand he uses. Guards had a 91 wRC+ vs. LHP this year, good for 25th in MLB. Cleveland's offense really improved late in the year, but lefties are an issue.
Chad Young
FWIW, the Sox are 5th in MLB in wRC+ vs. LHP (111), which may have been a factor in G1. Against RHP they are 17th with a 102
Keaton Arneson
I think Cleveland lead the AL in runs/game since the trade deadline or at least very close to it.
Chad Young
7th in MLB in runs scored, 6th in wRC+ since Aug 4
Chad Young
One huge difference between G1 and G2 already, Cleveland is making Kay work. Smith and Taylor in particular just cruised without having to throw many pitches.
Sean Dolinar
Rays are pretty high on that leaderboard: https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats…
Davy Andrews
Hello, dev team!
Sean Dolinar
👋
Sean Dolinar
I don't know who let me out to talk about baseball.
Sean Dolinar
(And the White Sox)
Keaton Arneson
They were third in AL in total runs, but played fewer games than CHI and TB
Chad Young
Going straight to another lefty here to face Adell feels like an odd choice, but I guess Newcomb was next up
Davy Andrews
(And Chad.)
Chad Young
Hi Davy!
Anonymous Member #46
Whoever drew this ALDS manager review just got a whole lot of fodder …
soddingjunkmail
Did they not have a righty up in the pen or something?
Chad Young
There's a smoke detector beeping in my house and that pitching change wasn't long enough to find it The search will continue after the inning, I guess
Davy Andrews
Just to be clear, you're ignoring a super loud smoke detector right now?
lzfreak
It does feel like we've gotten an inordinate number of lefties replacing lefties this postseason
Benny The Jet
These chats are awesome, thanks to everyone that put them together!
Davy Andrews
One that could be informing you of, say, a fire?
drplantwrench
angels legend sean newcomb vs angels legend jo adell
Benny The Jet
Is it safe to assume Grant Taylor is unavailable today?
soddingjunkmail
Feels like Venable is getting too cute here
Hazmat Corntail
Disaster 1st inning for ChiSox
Anonymous Member #46
Chad and Will Venable both, Davy.
Chad Young
The only fire in my house in the Guardians offense
Davy Andrews
Ok, but like, I'd still make sure of that were I you.
Davy Andrews
Though I suppose it depends on how much you like your house.
Chad Young
It's definitely just the "low battery" beep, but I appreciate the concern. I love watching my Guardians but not enough to let me house burn down with me in it, I promise!
Benny The Jet
Why does it feel like half the runs I've seen Cleveland score in my lifetime have been on infield hits
Davy Andrews
I don't know how long you've been alive, but since 2015 they actually rank right in the middle of the pack in infield hits.
Keaton Arneson
That's because half our lifetime is Willie Mays Hayes and Jake Taylor bunting.
Hazmat Corntail
This is probably the only place where I can say that I somehow remember Corbin Brenden being a .270 hitter as well
Chad Young
I am not 100% sure how to measure this, but it feels like you are right, Benny
Chad Young
IF hits, errors, bases loaded walks…they find ways to get runs without actually hitting the ball well
Benny The Jet
*The "This is fine" meme, but instead of coffee it's a playoff baseball game*
drplantwrench
drplantwrench
when are we going to be able to upload images to the chat
Davy Andrews
I assume this depends on how much Sean and Keaton trust you.
drplantwrench
so a rational person would say never
Sean Dolinar
Yeah, I want to, at least for the staff. I still have to talk to Meg and David about the moderation/trust.
lzfreak
It'll be interesting to see how Stephen Vogt finds his way into having Austin Hedges batting in a high leverage middle inning situation today
bosoxforlife
This understand this isn't a traditional chat but can I ask why all of a sudden closers are turning into Goose Gossage and Rollie Fingers again?
Chad Young
I think in the postseason, teams have two sudden shifts in their thinking about pitcher usage: 1) every single out is crucial and if you can get it with your best arms, you do. 2) being well rested for the future isn't important any more, so if you have to burn your best arm to get the win, you do.
maximus74
because 1/2 the teams in the playoffs don't have more than 2 functional SP
Davy Andrews
Wait, this question wasn't about mustaches?
bosoxforlife
I seem to recall another athlete from Wilmington, NC
Chad Young
Little update: smoke detector was found, batteries were replaced, smoke detector was replaced, and zero pitches were missed. I am better in the clutch than any Cleveland hitter.
Davy Andrews
Next time try it while covered in midges.
Chad Young
You know, I was at the midges/Joba Chamberlain game! With Ottoneu creator Niv Shah!
Davy Andrews
That's amazing. Were the midges all over the stands too?
Chad Young
It really wasn't bad in the stands. They're attracted to the lights, I guess, so with the field all lit up, they all want to be down there.
lzfreak
Has anyone ever studied the "pitcher isn't effective after a long inning in the dugout" thing? It comes up all the time but doesn't seem to make much sense
Davy Andrews
Somebody must have. It seems like it'd be easy enough to do using retrosheet data. But I personally haven't seen it.
Chad Young
I haven't either. I get the logic – you get into a groove/routine, then you sit so long that you lose that rhythm. Plus, your arm gets cold and needs to loosen/warm up again. But…I can create a logical explanation for a LOT of things that don't really happen.
Davy Andrews
I like how everybody who strikes out in this game really hurries out of the batter's box.
Matt Martell
Hi everyone!
Davy Andrews
Matt!
Jon Becker
Hi Matt! And everyone else! ✌️⚾️✌️
Davy Andrews
Becker!
Matt Martell
My favorite fact about Gavin Williams is that he went to Cape Fear High School
Chad Young
Matt! Jon! It's a party!
war2d2
woooo ain’t no party like a Watching-Baseball-When-I’m-Supposed-To-Be-Working party woooo
drplantwrench
Jo Adell went to Seven Samurai High School
Chad Young
All of my fantasy teams are named after HS sports teams and I might have to add those two to the list for future teams.
Phillip
Curious to get y'all's thoughts on the super quick leash on Kay from CWS and how you think it'll impact them for the rest of the series. I get you want your starter to go longer, and leash is short in the post season. Think Kay throws again tomorrow or something if they're super tight on pen innings?
Chad Young
No clue what their plans are, but with an off-day tomorrow and after G4, he should be available for G3 and G5, for sure. Or G4 and G5. Whatever they want to do.
Matt Martell
I went to the Guardians' spring training game, played against the Diamondbacks at Chase Field, in 2025. Gavin Williams started it and struck out approximately 57 batters in three innings. Looked like the nastiest pitcher I'd ever seen. Don't know what to make of that, but felt it was worth sharing
bosoxforlife
Venable was playing games.
Matt Martell
I have no idea, re: Anthony Kay. He didn't look sharp, but it was such a quick hook that it had to have been planned.
lzfreak
Boy Kwan looked safe there in real time
Davy Andrews
I sort of thought it looked like he gave it 98% and 100% would've done it.
Benny The Jet
Have modern coaching staffs potentially at least partially moved off of platoon based match ups to something based on pitch shapes and swing paths, or something of that nature? Feels like it might help explain at least some of the bullpen choices this postseason
Davy Andrews
That's definitely a consideration, but lefty-righty is still going to be a bigger factor most of the time.
Chad Young
I also think in this case, he just didn't want to let Kay let this get away early. The IBB to Adell tells you it wasn't about the matchup.
Davy Andrews
Does Chase Meidroth have a bit of a George Lucas look?
Davy Andrews
I think it's the beard.
war2d2
I think it’s the lack of any visible chin.
Davy Andrews
And the intentional use of the beard to make it look like there is.
war2d2
Kwan always looks vaguely sad/concerned. Every time I see him I think of the “hitman monkey finds no joy in his job” meme.
Chad Young
So those manager interviews are usually such a waste, but Venable saying the plan was for Kay and Newcomb to get through 12 hitters combined and acknowledging that the Kay hook wasn't really planned is interesting.
drplantwrench
bad challenge?
Chad Young
There should be a margin at which the challenge isn't lost. you don't get the call changed but you don't lose the challenge either.
Davy Andrews
No. No no no no.
Chad Young
so…you don't like that idea, I take it? lol
Davy Andrews
The call stands is a scourge.
Chad Young
That's fair, and I generally agree, but "this was actually too close for the computer to know if it was a ball or strike" feels like a harsh moment to take away a challenge.
Davy Andrews
That is a very good point. But I think either you trust the computer or you don't, you know?
drplantwrench
even worse challenge
drplantwrench
maybe there should be a margin at which a challenge is so bad you lose both challenges
Davy Andrews
Now THIS I can get behind.
Chad Young
Yeah, I am aligned. Sorry, Sam, that ball was entirely within the zone.
lzfreak
How many pitches will they let Williams go today, assuming he's on?
Chad Young
all of them
Jonathan Smith edited
Challenging in the playoffs has been fascinating to watch. Lots of questionable challenges here. If it's me, I'm waiting for leverage spots, no matter the time of game. 1 on 1 out in the 3rd inning? Not high enough. Maybe in the regular season? I feel like my approach would change drastically in the playoffs.
Davy Andrews
I don't know. The two games I wrote up this weekend featured tons of successful challenges. I tend to think teams are too cautious with them.
Chad Young
At this point, I doubt he goes more than 6, but he'll get up over 100 if needed
Davy Andrews
He reached 100 eight times, season high is 113. I think the answer is "a lot."
Chad Young
The only thing that might keep him from going up over 100 is that the bullpen is fully rested and has an off-day tomorrow.
Davy Andrews
Question for the group: Do you have a go-to baseball-watching snack?
Hazmat Corntail
I tend to go for things with a minimum of mess, so pretzels, maybe popcorn.
Jonathan Smith
I freakin love some popcorn
Chad Young
Chips and salsa. but I can't eat during a Cleveland post-season game.
war2d2
Can’t right now because it’s still only 3pm in CA, but I’m the stereotypical baseball-and-a-beer dad. Other than that I’m generally a tortilla chips guy, if I have them available.
Chad Young
The thing I think is underrated about early challenges is that they can snowball. Turning a PA in your favor now could mean forcing the SP to face another hitter or two. Even if that doesn't turn into runs now, maybe it creates an out or two later that need to be handled but a lesser reliever.
bosoxforlife
I am munching on chips with con queso cheese dip with an adult beverage.
drplantwrench
i think white sox win the series, but sean newcomb vs gavin williams really highlights some key difference
Phil
I used to eat popcorn. Then I had an incident with a crown, of the dental, not kingly variety. Now I eat nothing.
Davy Andrews
That sounds not fun. Sorry, Phil.
Chad Young
I quite literally have a crown in a plastic bag in my pocked because it came off yesterday and I have to go to the dentist and get it repaired. Not fun. I too would stop eating foods that made this happen.
Chad Young
So per the Venable interview, Newcomb got them back on track with their pitching plan. We'll see what happens from here, but Kay+Newcomb with the RHP getting Adell his second time seems to have been their plan, and here we are.
jcathtraverse
don't you still lose your challenge if the call stands? a margin of error is inherent to abs, so retaining the challenge if the pitch falls within it would actually be the best way to make it LESS like call stands.
Matt Martell
In the playoffs, when scoring first is crucial and you never know how many baserunners you're going to get on, I think teams should be more aggressive early than they are, especially if there's a man on base. Any moment could prove to be decisive. Don't wait until later when they might not matter later
Davy Andrews
The announcers are not aware that Nathaniel Lowe does not like to be called Nate.
Davy Andrews
Ok, Ronny knows.
Chad Young
It's sorta the same argument for using your best relievers when you need them instead of waiting for a save – if you know the challenge/reliever has value now, there is no reason to save it for later, when it might not be needed at all.
bosoxforlife
ABS fascinates me. I know I want more early challenges and fear they will disappear with the way teams are restricting players. Do you people think an early challenge in a high leverage situation is a good decision?
Davy Andrews
I do.
Jonathan Smith
I thought what Chad added above was well said. I am personally all for challenging on the leverage of the moment than the timing.
bosoxforlife
I am in agreement with you. There have been a lot of really bizarre challenges this year where players used, and wasted, challenges at meaningless points in the game.
Davy Andrews
Ok, I have to go pour some milk in a baby. I will see if I can check back in on the chat later. Good to talk to you all!
Sean Dolinar
I really goofed by not adding 🍼 into the emoji reacts.
drplantwrench
i want the LFG baseball as an emoji too
war2d2
I’m not a huge Darling fan, but in comparison to the other booths working this round of playoffs this one is a breath of fresh air. Really missing Benetti.
Matt Martell
Derek Junior needs milk!
mmaude
What’s the best window for the white sox to put up 3 runs in this game? Seems to be a very small gap between third time through order from Williams and the pen getting to shut down mode especially in a big game for Cleveland
Yer Main Guy
Right now, I guess
Chad Young
Williams can be homer-prone – just gotta take your chances when you get them because there won't be many.
Chad Young
Vargas has seen 9 pitches and swung at none
Chad Young
and yeah, this is the moment.
drplantwrench
score aside, really feels like white sox have had more momentum throughout the game
war2d2
Not just the game, but in general. Right now the Sox, Rays, Brewers, and Braves all feel like they’re rolling.
Chad Young
Cleveland got two runs, but still doesn't have an RBI hit this series, so they can't really afford to let this lead slip away
Phil
Mune!
Chad Young
I don't know about "throughout the game" – they looked utterly lost against Williams until this inning – but it does feel like this is a HUGE moment
Chad Young
Even that one run really changes the look of this game
bosoxforlife
Murakami amazes me. This old man finds it hard to believe a player can hit .202 and be of such value.
Chad Young
Williams has really lost the thread here and Beni bailed him out
bosoxforlife
Getting back to ABS, What is the consensus here on the number of challenges? I know I would like a couple more or perhaps a couple of one use ones for early innings only.
Matt Martell
Two – this is the right amount.
Anonymous Member #46
MiLB originally started with three on the challenge days. Two is plenty.
Chad Young
that K could be a turning point in the series, but it is definitely a turning point in my day – I need to hop out of here and go be a parent. Go Guards!
Dan Szymborski
No pop on toast references yet?
mmaude
And Peters first pitch swinging
Matt Martell
That cut to Rob Manfred standing alone is among the funniest things I've seen all year
Phil
As a neutral fan, I like the current frequency of challenges, particularly since it feel unusual when an ump is getting a lot of successful ones as in yesterday's MIL-SDP. I wouldn't mind if my own (now eliminated, red-stockinged) team had an extra, since they are often overly reluctant.
bosoxforlife
Manfred looked forlorn, to put it mildly.
Phillip Denny
I know the CHW rotation was below average this year, but if you assume at least one of Taylor/Schultz/Sandlin has starter potential, you can squint your eyes and see an exciting rotation in 2027 and beyond.
drplantwrench
i desperately want my angels to sign skubal, but man if the white sox sign him instead…..
Matt Martell
You stan Kroenke?
Yer Main Guy
So does every team employ some number of guys in a room just watching for what should be reviewed?
Matt Martell
Yes
Phil
This is often public info, e.g., Mike Brenly does it for the Red Sox.
Yer Main Guy
Maybe MLB umpires could just review stuff in this manner and save everyone time and money
Phil
I have always wanted that, like in college football. And for fair/foul it could just be automatic, like tennis.
Phillip Denny
Wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't just "guys in a room watching video" but "guys in a room tinkering with AI agent trained on video in real time"
Phillip Denny
What's actually weird about Gavin Williams is he has better run value on his sweeper v L than v R, and a better run value on his curveball v R than v L. Both the opposite of what you'd expect.
Yer Main Guy
You say this and then he immediately Ks two lefties on curves
Matt Martell
I have no idea how anyone hits Williams' curveball
Sean Dolinar
I feel like we don't see that 12-6 curve like we used to. I miss it.
Yer Main Guy
Yeah Sean, you need to check out this Clemens guy. Good writer.
McPontiff
True, there's not many guys in the league that can drop those these days. Baz on a good day
rfilla
If you're watching the game at a bar or restaurant and the lights AREN'T flickering, take a minute to be grateful. Kinda like when your nose isn't stuffed. Don't take it for granted!
Sean Dolinar
Are the TVs flickering off too?
rfilla edited
It depends how pedantic we are tonight. Technically? Yes. But not as bad as the lights
Phillip Denny
top 3 in the league of curveballs with >38 inches of drop and <6 inches glove, side movement: Baz (600), Freeland (481), Gore (480).
Phil
White Sox radio guys were saying that Ramirez is effective batting second, despite being clearly off and evidently playing hurt, because of "his presence alone." Ignoring whether this is analytically confirmable, is it even definable? What is "presence"? Is the idea that it makes you burn your leverage guys, or throw more pitches by nibbling, even if he strikes out?
lzfreak
My interpretation would be that it's a good idea to bat him second because he's literally Jose Ramirez. A known excellent hitter and future Hall of Famer
Phillip Denny
I think this ties into the larger question of "is lineup protection a thing?" and the answer to that in a universal DH environment is "mostly, no." There was iirc some demonstrable effect of 8 hole batters in the NL pre-2022.
Matt Martell
Yes, and also Ramírez was hurt for most of this season but looked to be coming out of it over the final two weeks. I think that matters, too
Phil
Yes, that I agree with–he looks OK. Just wondering if it's true there's extra vakue to being great even if you don't hit.
millvillemeltdown
i hope all pitchers see hosey step up to the plate and go "eek" a little bit
millvillemeltdown
i mean. as a general rule of thumb i am in favor of more silly noises made. if they put a whistle in the ball that made it scream as it flies. i'd be a fan
Sean Dolinar
Listening to the doppler effect with that ball would be sick.
millvillemeltdown
i spent the better part of one recent afternoon with a shotgun and a deadcat recording the baseball team. would have been more fun if the ball went pweeeeeee
millvillemeltdown
wow sabrowski wanted *zero* to do with grichuk
Phillip Denny
Tommy Pham enters the game and immediately runners advance? Now that's what I call Phamgraphs.
millvillemeltdown
that should go in his stats. he put the fear of pham in the pitcher, causing the wild pitch
Benny The Jet
That's twice in this game an outfielder ran almost to the infield dirt to make a catch
Benny The Jet
Wow
Matt Martell
That was a really nice play by Martinez
Jon Becker
The Pope must’ve just turned the game on
Phillip Denny
So uhhhh when do we declare the White Sox winners of the Crochet trade?
Phil
Oy.
Benny The Jet
Sox might have the juice
Matt Martell
Resurfacing this mailbag question:
Is God fixing the tournament in favor of the White Sox? — Kevin
Phillip Denny
I don't recall the catholic church ever officially blessing a baseball team before. So imo we can't rule it out.
millvillemeltdown
pope leo owes the city of cleveland an apology!!!
Phil
It's 1:10 AM in Rome. You can go to bed now, Leo, the Sox have this.
millvillemeltdown
honestly i liked cleveland alright when i visited, so i'm biased. but like. it'd be so funny if the sox won off the back of the power of the Lord Almighty and a hurt dude bopping his friends on the head with a small stick
millvillemeltdown
i know sss caveats, but i enjoyed watching kwan become a "playoff demon" and getting on base at ridiculous rates in past postseasons. i love a pesky at-bat more than i should…
bosoxforlife
Montgomery shakes his head after swinging at two in the dirt then taking one right in the zone.
millvillemeltdown
me too, buddy… me too…
McPontiff
Burke showing off a pretty tidy hook himself!
millvillemeltdown
chicago and their mirps, man. they converting all their starters to mirps. they converting their position players to mirps. they converting their fo staff to mirps. soon we will all be mirps.
millvillemeltdown
the entropic decay of the "guy who throws ball"
millvillemeltdown
can you tell that i'm procrastinating on thermodynamics homework by watching mlbgameday
Sean Dolinar
I'm glad I don't have to do that anymore.
Jon Becker
Haha yeah same I was totally smart enough for thermodynamics haha anyway how about Hunter Gaddis’ beard?
Sean Dolinar
It's almost as good as Brian Wilson's circa 2010.
bosoxforlife
The last homework I did was 63 years ago.
Sean Dolinar
Everyone just uses AI for their homework these days; it's a problem.
bosoxforlife
There might be a new comment if something actually was happening
Sean Dolinar
I'm prepping polls for the Yankees game. 🤷♂️
Yer Main Guy
Oh is there another game on after this?
Sean Dolinar
I know we had that long extra innings game in CLE a few years back. And they went to the ALCS a few years ago, but I don't remember CLE games being super interesting. They also get stuck with early games.
Anonymous Member #46
From the radio broadcast:
Anonymous Member #46
The White Sox threw 21 bullpen innings when they won in 2005. They have thrown 24 already this year.
NYYfaninLAAland
Can we somehow take bulk starters out of the relief stat set. They have Sean Burke setting “relief” volume records in this game? C’mon, adjust to today’s game realities
Sean Dolinar
This has been a frustration of mine since openers were first being used.
Sean Dolinar
Baseball famously loves to change. I don't think we've ever been able to determine a better way to classify pitcher appearances. Since a start and relief appearances are objectively defined. We are looking at ways to adapt our probables grid.
Sean Dolinar
Can't see that being overturned.
Anonymous Member #46
Sean, with the pitcher IP question, can we get 1/3 innings as an option in the future?
Sean Dolinar
It's possible. Maybe I'll just how outs!
lzfreak
Thought that one was going out
bosoxforlife
I wasn't allowed to say "neither" when asked who I was rooting for.
NYYfaninLAAland
So sad for you
Sean Dolinar
I'll add that if it's NYY-LAD in the WS.
bosoxforlife
I love to watch baseball but there is no way that I can root for either the Rays or that other team.
Matt Martell
Man, that's great for Jo Adell
Sean Dolinar
Who said this game was boring?
sb4321
random question for FanGraphs admins, do the WAR calculations include first base receiving defense and double play defense runs?
I notice it on the leaderboards but can't find any announcements on this
Sean Dolinar
Lemme confirm.
sb4321
Thank you so much for finding out, this is a niche thing I've been wondering for a while.
sb4321
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drplantwrench
dang i was showering my kid and missed the jo triple ugh
lzfreak
This is a lot of Grant Taylor
MattStats5
Grant Taylor, incredible post season so far. That is all.
McPontiff
I'd say ALL (much maligned) hurlers in Black. Will Venable has really earned my respect this postseason. (with those pinch hit righties vs Sabrowski too).
McPontiff
Thinking about it, he's been managing back-against-the-wall "playoff" style for about 3 weeks straight! Cobbling together 9 innings with the most IP by RPs all year
drplantwrench
WHITE SOX WIN
SadaharuWhoa
White Sox win exactly on time to switch to another game. Quite considerate!
Sean Dolinar
This is one thing I like about streaming vs linear.
bosoxforlife
I am loving me some Taylor doing things that are not supposed to happen in this age of computer driven decision making.
McPontiff
Thanks to "feel" managers like Venable and Weiss!
McPontiff
Too much over-managing in the playoffs
Sean Dolinar
We were 50/50 split on the CHW/CLE game on who would win! Right now we are ~60/40 on the Yankees/Rays on who will win.
And we only have two Yankees fans in the chat.
Sean Dolinar
Re: WAR and 1B Rec question. We haven't incorporated that or the Inf DP this season, because we added those stats in the middle of the season.
sb4321
Alright, good to know. Thank you so much!
I'm assuming that's probably going to be an offseason project?
Sean Dolinar
Yep! Less of a project, more of in-season consistency.
bosoxforlife
I cannot believe Chisholm attempted that throw??????
Matt Martell
The sad thing is, I can
lzfreak
Catchers interference!
bosoxforlife
McMahon's play was about as easy a play as a 3rd baseman could have. To state the obvious, the Yankee defense is pathetic.
Phil edited
You knew there had to be a replay challenge for catcher's interference in this series.
Matt Martell
A good ole 3-error inning by the Yankees
bosoxforlife
3 errors in the 1st. Unbelievable!
Jack Martin
Yankees in post-season form
lzfreak
Man this defense is something
Matt Martell
It would be so funny if Simpson went yard here
bosoxforlife
Who is going to want Chisholm in their lineup next year after this performance?
danodea
I would love Jazz on the Pirates. We'll never win anything so we might as well have fun guys
lzfreak
Yeah Chisholm's issues seem like a great coach could help with. And every team thinks its coaches are the best
Nate
Yankees really not beating the allegations here
Matt Martell
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sean Dolinar
If they get out of this with only 1 run…😑
lzfreak
Feels like a missed opportunity there for Tampa Bay
David
I wonder if the Yankees could recruit the Archbishop of Canterbury as a fan or something…
McPontiff
After what's happening in LA and Cleveland, the Yanks are nervy as hell
Phil
Definitely needed a catwalk ball.
Anon21
Domes suck! Stop playing in domes!
Sean Dolinar
I've always glossed over the ground rules until a few days ago.
sb4321
The Yankees defense which had 8 FRV in the regular season (12th) now has three errors in one inning
Phil edited
I do hope the Rays' new stadium has something weird.
SadaharuWhoa
It will be in Florida, so it will have a roof. Just gotta hope it's a funky roof
MattStats5
Schlittler sh*tting the bed a bit. As an Orioles fan, not upset at all.
bosoxforlife
Wells wanted to challenge.
bosoxforlife
Does anyone think Chisholm returns to the Yankees next year?
Phil
He's a better fit for a looser team.
SadaharuWhoa
Like the Marlins
Sean Dolinar
I'd be interested to see our FA crowdsource numbers for him. That 31 HR season is intriguing.
bosoxforlife
I was thinking more on the lines of the Yokohama Bay Stars.
lzfreak
It feels like Schlittler should be at like 50 pitches by now
Matt Martell
Schlittler doesn't have his putaway stuff today.
Matt Martell
I know the Rays are hard to strike out, but they're spoiling his fastballs
bosoxforlife
Sean: how come when I try to reply it says I am replying to myself?
Sean Dolinar
We force only one-level deep threads. Which messages are you replying to? Or trying to reply to?
bosoxforlife
Just a few in general. Recently to Sadaharu Whoa.
Sean Dolinar
Oh the chronological view…your message is the parent for that thread, so that's why. I might rethink how we display that.
Phil
This guy looks more like Peralta of Wisconsin than Peralta of Queens.
bosoxforlife
Should I type first then go to the recipient?
Sean Dolinar
No, just something I have to clean up.
bosoxforlife
Peralta joins Tatis and Kwan as players who had awful first halves and excellent second halves.
bosoxforlife
Thanks.
antihustle
Remember when Tommy Tight Pants threw a billion changeups in a row
Benny The Jet
Man the Yankees line up isn't necessarily bad without Judge, but it sure is less imposing
Sean Dolinar
Our mean for Peralta IP was 4.84.
Sean Dolinar
So maybe we need that fraction of an inning, so someone can be correct.
lzfreak
Sounds like we basically nailed it
Sean Dolinar
edited
The Yankees errors poll is quite something. Median 5 errors, but the mean is 25.67, so we need them to step up some.
bosoxforlife
This move by Cash is eerily similar to Game 6 of the 2020 WS when he pulled Snell after he had just given up his first hit. This time it is clear he didn't want Peralta facing Rice. Can't argue with this move.
lzfreak
Baseball games sure can change fast
Matt Martell
Jones should've kept going. Probably could've caught that
drplantwrench
BANG
lzfreak
Simpson is such a Rays guy to have up here
drplantwrench
BANG x2
Sean Dolinar
They aren't gonna call that an error are they?
bosoxforlife
Nothing like two squibbers to get the runs home.
lzfreak
Gotta feel for Schlittler. Not his best, but he pitched better than his line is gonna say
Sean Dolinar
Schlittler goes 4.1 IP; we had 6.27 IP mean and 6 IP median.
bosoxforlife
It is an error. He had a play at 1st if he took it.
Sean Dolinar
It looks like they scored it a single. I don't disagree that it should be an error. I've just seen that play called a hit so often now.
Sean Dolinar
Broadcast is saying they haven't heard a scoring decision. Gameday has a single, but they can always change that.
Phil
Not sure what to root for on that, having voted for 5 errors. I need them to get two more, but if they pick one up now they might overshoot.
lzfreak
I don't think you can assume the play at home and that did look like where he was going
Sean Dolinar
I can't see that being overturned.
Sean Dolinar
He looks convincingly safe.
lzfreak
This Yankees infield is really having a night
Phil
Official scorer ruling pending again. . .
Sean Dolinar
Will they charge an error for that? We need to hit our prediction!
Rollie's Mustache
"The Yankees are absolutely tragic defensively in Game 2" is a great line by Brian Anderson.
Sean Dolinar
Error!
lzfreak
This one has to be an error
bosoxforlife
No doubt about that error.
Benny The Jet
This is getting to meltdown territory
Phil edited
They're going to blow past our prediction. Can I revote?
Sean Dolinar
😂 I'll work on that feature next.
lzfreak
It's crazy we're not far removed from Bellinger being like 5 feet away from this being 5-1
SadaharuWhoa
Now it is!
Sean Dolinar
The mound is even against the Yankees.
bosoxforlife
That is a great AB against a tough lefty.
Phil
I know baseball is random, a single game is the smallest of small sample size, etc. etc. But there's no way to watch this game (or listen while looking at Gameday in my case) and not feel like the Rays are a significantly better team.
antihustle
1000%
bosoxforlife
Phil, the answer is really not if the Rays are significantly better but just how much the Yankees are significantly worse.
Jack Dorfman
Fun game so far!
wenz
Did it hit the mound or the cutoff man's leg?
ncphl
Looks like the mound to me
bosoxforlife
I do enjoy watching a soft tosser carve up a linep.
millvillemeltdown
i return from thermo. 55 burgers 55 fries 55 yankee errors
Rollie's Mustache
Google tells me the record for most errors in a single postseason game by one team is 5. So history is within reach tonight.
Phil
I am so rooting for this.
Dan Szymborski
I'm kinda amused that in the ALDS so far, it's almost if the Yankees said "you know all the stuff about our team that people think isn't good because they're angry about analytics? Let's do those things."
millvillemeltdown
i can't believe ANALYTICS turned all our players into potatoes in the field
Patrick Burke
I'm so biased (Yankee fan) but still feel OK even if they lose here. Next two games throwing two lefties, plus no more Trop. Probably lose game five though.
Benny The Jet
We hit 5 errors!
Benny The Jet
Did the official scorer see a chance to get into the history books and reverse course?
Dan Szymborski
On the bright side, they've tripled their hit count from Game 1!
Dan Szymborski
Getting five errors in a game *is* a pretty impressive feat, since game scorers today don't like giving errors unless they look like complex vaudeville sketches.
Michael
As a Yanks fan…I mean every year. This happens every year. I tend to be a realist and not overreact to the calls for Boone/Cashman's heads after every season, but at some point we have to consider this right?
Michael edited
There's some mindset thing that just isn't there. Impossible to quantify vibes but the Yanks just have had negative vibes in the playoffs for years sans a few moments in '24, various Giancarlo postseason at bats and Schlitter vs. Red Sox starts.
Sean Dolinar
We are going to underestimate the errors! I put that poll up as a joke.
Rollie's Mustache
Back to "only" 4 errors according to mlb dot com. That's no fun.
Phil
Looking forward to the Manager Report Score for Boone, regarding bullpen usage in this game. . . and wondering if he's going to use Bednar down four. . .
McPontiff
yes. yes he is. (might be a decent call though tbh)
Antonio Bananas
With the Rays over performing this season based on a lot of statistics, do we think they figured something out that we dont know how to quantify yet? Or just random?
Michael
Will Boone PH for McMuffin here? If not, the Manager Report should grade him harshly!
Kleanerman
As a Rays fan I'm riding the high and assuming they are omniscient
David
As a White Sox fan, I'm cheering for the Yankees because at this point it seems the much easier path to the WS, and honestly just typing that is a reminder of how insane this season has been.
Rollie's Mustache
Ben Rice. My goodness.
lzfreak
Ben Rice is doing his best
Kleanerman
Maybe I've been corrupted by Colin Poche, but the high-strikeout, low-velo fastball guys like Ian Seymour really do something for me
Phil
We're running out of time for more errors. Ideally we need two on the next play.
McPontiff
Girardi on last year's Baker trade "Orioles shoulda hung up!"
Sean Dolinar
Alright! Let's do this again tomorrow!
McPontiff
I wasn't really heartbroken at the time (as a homer), because he used have his meltdown moments (long balls typically). But I KNEW they would fix him; the stuff was always awesome