Mike Moustakas, Travis Shaw, and the Brewers’ Second-Base Experiment
Last year, the Brewers resurfaced after a rebuilding period that saw them purge basically all the top players from their last good season. With a strong pitching staff and a maturing crop of prospects, Milwaukee surged, presenting a threat to Chicago’s North Side club for the division crown. On this day a year ago, the Brewers were a half-game back of the Cubs. While they inevitably came up short, the Brewers started to see returns from a top-10 farm system they had spent years assembling.
During the offseason, they sought to address their weaknesses in the outfield, consolidating prospect gains for the inimitable Christian Yelich. They also signed Lorenzo Cain to an affordable long-term contract, providing them with greater protection from variance and much improved production. While those two acquisitions haven’t been the only factors to have propelled the Brew Crew to contention, such additions have led the organization to find themselves 1.5 games back of the Cubs for the division this season, holding the first Wild Card spot. FanGraphs’ own playoff odds give them (read: Milwaukee) a 60.2% chance to make the playoffs. Last night, David Stearns inched that figure a bit higher.
Late Friday evening, the Milwaukee Brewers moved to augment their roster for a postseason push, acquiring Mike Moustakas from the Kansas City Royals.
As reported first by a self-described Wisconsin sports fan, here’s the trade in its entirety:
Brewers get:
Royals get:
- OF Brett Phillips
- RHP Jorge Lopez
For the Royals, it’s a pretty bittersweet move featuring one of their longest-tenured players. Kansas City drafted Moustakas with the second overall pick all the way back in 2007. He’s spent his entire adult life with the organization, ascending the minor-league ladder, enduring growing pains, making a World Series, and then winning a World Series. Or, as Royals manager Ned Yost puts it:
Ned Yost on Mike Moustakas: "I had this kid when he was a kid. Before he got married, before he became a dad, before he became an All-Star, before he became a world champion. I’ve watched him grow up before my very eyes."
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Objectively speaking, the Royals are a bad team. I’m not sure I need to remind you of this. They achieved their objective within their small competitive window, but that window has closed emphatically and now they’re rebuilding, trading away an acceptable third baseman in an effort to (a) maximize their draft selection for 2019 and (b) garner assets for the future.
Before we fully evaluating the trade, let’s first consider the surplus value on Moose’s contract as a general guideline of what kind of return to expect.
| Season | WAR | Value | Salary | Surplus Value |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2018, PACE | 2.7 | $21.6 M | $7.7 M | $13.9 M |
| 2018, ROS | 1.1 | $8.8 M | $2.8 M | $6.0 M |
I’m assuming above that Moustakas will reach 450 PA to unlock all incentives — an outcome which, barring very unfortunate injury, will almost certainly occur.
The longtime Royal returned a nice piece in Brett Phillips, a prospect who is almost certainly worth more than Moustakas’ rest-of-season surplus value. He’s a largely fringey outfielder whose inability to make contact (with a strikeout rate north of 30% since 2015) has limited him to a lesser role. Phillips has made it work in the high minors with wRC+ marks of 134, 120, 113, 139, and 92, but such a strikeout-heavy approach combined with a lack of game-power threatens his viability at the major-league level.
FanGraphs’ own Eric Longenhagen delved deep into such things during an offseason review of the Brewers’ system:
He has a clunky leg kick and weight transfer that prevent him from turning on balls consistently, and he is violent about the head during his swing, exacerbating Phillips’ whiff-prone stiffness…He projects as a 40 hitter, and his approach to contact will likely limit his game power output.
But he does lots of other things. Phillips is an above-average runner and high-effort player who makes it work in center field despite lacking great instincts. He has strong hands and is able to poke balls out the other way on occasion. Most notably, Phillips has elite, game-changing arm strength and uncorked a throw in excess of 104 mph, according to Statcast, this year. Some scouts think Phillips’ patience, raw power, and ability to play center field will make him an average everyday player, but most think his inability to hit will limit him to a lesser role.
It’s worth noting that Phillips accrued 1.1 WAR in just 37 games in a cup of coffee last year, a pace good for 4.8 wins despite the contact woes.
It’s also worth noting that the Royals are a club that presently ranks 23rd in strikeout rate, ranked 26th by that measure in 2017, and 21st in 2016. In the last half-decade, KC has always been in the bottom-third. The Royals naturally select for contact-oriented hitters. It’s highly probable they will attempt to alter Phillips’ approach — by removing his leg kick, for example — just as they have done with Jorge Soler.
It seems curious that the Royals chose to select a package featuring nearly ready talent, given that they very well may be a 100-loss team. (Lopez is a converted bullpen arm with a mid-90s fastball and above-average curveball, though his inability to locate made him expendable.) The logic here, I think, is to fix and flip players, turning smaller pieces into bigger, more meaningful pieces for the future. Phillips is a relatively young, raw talent who the Royals can mold and trade to accelerate their rebuild.
From the Brewers’ side of things, it’s clear that Milwaukee needed second-base help; they ranked 28th in net output at the position, good for a -0.7 WAR and a wRC+ of 68. Moustakas’s 107 wRC+ mark is a noted offensive upgrade over that abomination, and our Depth Charts have him hitting even better than that the rest of the way. One finds, of course, that Mike Moustakas is not a second baseman — nor is Travis Shaw, who presently mans the hot corner for the Brewers.
Shaw is slated to switch to second base, an interesting move considering he has no professional experience at the position. At 6-foot-4 and 230 pounds, he doesn’t feature a typical profile, either. There are, however, signs that the temporary position switch could be viable. For one, Shaw has always been a positive defender and has recorded 3.8 Range Runs Above Average (UZR) this season, suggesting the middle infield may not be as much of a stretch as one might think. UZR also has his Error Runs Above Average at -1.7 this year and below average in every season he has manned the hot corner. Perhaps moving him to second base, where throws are shorter and shifting has become increasingly common, will actually increase his defensive effectiveness.
While the Brewers will see an uptick in second-base production, a Moustakas acquisition that may lower Shaw’s defensive capabilities may still not be ideal for a team that can’t afford to lose ground in a close playoff race. Asdrubal Cabrera (2.1 WAR), who was traded to Philadelphia yesterday, might have provided more versatility. Ian Kinsler (1.7 WAR) provides better defense, and Brian Dozier (1.1 WAR) represents a potential bounce-back opportunity. Although it would run through 2019, Starlin Castro (1.6 WAR) likely would be made available if a contender absorbs most of the salary.
Milwaukee has improved their club for the playoff push, there’s no question about that. But could they have improved their odds by acquiring an alternative option, avoiding a Travis Shaw defensive experiment? That is an open question.
A finance student in the lovable armpit of Orange County, Rahul Setty spends his time following the Angels, writing for Halos Heaven, and derives joy from Mike Trout's on-base percentage which is, thankfully, always high. You can reach him on Twitter @RahulSetty_.
Can Phillips pitch? Poor Jorge Lopez received nary a text mention.
Lopez pitched 3 hitless low leverage innings this past Wednesday against the Nats and looked very good doing so. He’s been part of Brewer’s system of revolving 4 guys through the last spot in their pen, replacing a guy after an extended outing with a fresh arm. Lopez, Adrian Houser, Brandon Woodruff and Alec Asher have all generated frequent flier miles between Colorado Springs and Milwaukee. With the return of Albers and addition of Soria, for now Taylor Williams assumes that role.
Lopez looked like a very good prospect after posting a 2.26 ERA in 24 starts at AA as a 22 year old in 2015. At the time, he was Brewers number one pitching prospect. He even got 2 starts after a September call up that year. He regressed in 2016 however, struggling at AAA Colorado Springs, a tough environment for pitchers, and in 2017, he started transitioning to the bullpen.
He’s a guy who’s on the edge of being a useful bullpen piece for a contender right now. Given the Royals have Wily Peralta closing games, I would think he’s ready for an expanded bullpen role on a rebuilding club. Guys like Lopez emerge every year. He’s no sure thing, but he’s got enough stuff to have a chance.
Thanks.
So this could actually work, in the sense that Travis Shaw actually could handle second base and left-handed power plays well in Miller Park so Moustakas might be a good fit.
But this deal is so needlessly risky; Moustakas is essentially a league-average bat, and it wouldn’t have been that hard to trade for, say, Escobar or Dozier instead (Asdrubal Cabrera netted a really nice return, I doubt the Brewers would have topped that deal). And then you’re also asking a guy to make a mid-season position switch to something he’s never played before?
The chances of things going wrong are so obvious even now, and it’s not like you’re taking this risk to get a super-stud’s bat in the lineup. He’s projected for a wRC+ of 113. He’s a slightly above average hitter. Is that worth blowing up your infield defense when you could have traded for a person who has actually played second base?
If I had to guess what is going on here, I would guess the Brewers had decided that Phillips was no longer in their plans and was going to deal him to free up space on the 40-man roster. So they shopped him and decided Moustakas was going to be the best they got for him (in other words, they couldn’t get a pitcher or middle infielder for him).
Between the fact that Shaw is a decent defender at 3rd and the Brewers do a lot of shifting, I’d be surprised if Shaw turns out to be any worse than Cabrera is at 2nd. Given what the Mets got back from the Phillies for Cabrera, I’m not really surprised they went this route.
Phillips is a nice player but he’s at the point where he needs to get MLB reps and it’s clear he wasn’t going to get that in Milwaukee. They’re pretty stacked at OF right now with Cain/Yelich/Braun/Thames/Broxton in the majors. Domingo Santana is also probably ahead of Phillips on the depth chart when going into AAA. Plus a guy like Corey Ray or even Troy Stokes might be knocking on the door next year. I agree the Brewers just didn’t see Phillips in their long term plans anymore.
A quick note on Jorge Lopez, he was going to be out of options after next year and I think he’s another guy the Brewers have kinda moved on from. I cant imagine the Brewers would’ve made him a permanent part of the team after how sparingly he’s been used the past couple years (and how middling his numbers were). He was a really nice prospect for a hot minute, I hope a change of scenery makes a difference for him.
Travis Shaw played 1B and 3B in college, and was seen as a 1Bman during his rise through the minors. From 2012 – 2014 (high-A through AAA), he played 345 games at 1B and just 27 games at 3B. In 2015-2016, the Red Sox used him increasingly at 3B, but it was initially seen as a temporary moved based on need. Since his trade to the Brewers, he’s been playing 3B exclusively. Maybe next year he’ll be playing SS.
I wonder if this is a case of him being pigeonholed by scouts based on his physique, or whether his defense has somehow improved.
So there’s an ERAA stat?
I did a little research to see what active 2B are close to Shaw in size, and Ben Zobrist is pretty close – Shaw is listed at 6′ 4″, 230, Zobrist at 6′ 3″, 210. Definitely an unusual profile for the position, but not unheard of. Shaw’s also a good athlete for his size – looking at Statcast’s sprint speed, he’s about league average, and ahead of some notable players at his new position (Dozier, Kinsler). Definitely think he has the tools to succeed there, and I like the Brewers getting creative in trying to improve their club.
What puzzles me about the move is that Moustakas is a LHH (as is Shaw). Milwaukee is the fourth worst team by wRC+ against LHP (81) and Moustakas does little to improve that (89 for the season, 86 career). Brian Dozier seems to me like a more obvious fit, or maybe a platoon bat like Steve Pearce (not Pearce himself, of course, since he’s no longer available for trade).
I guess maybe they really believe in Moose’s power playing up in Miller Park, but not sure the reward is worth the risk here. Will be interesting to see how their season plays out.
Jonathan Schoop of Baltimore is listed at 6-1, 225 by Baseball Reference.
From your lips to Stearns’ ears.
“The logic here, I think, is to fix and flip players,”
I wish, but I think the Royals think they can have a very short rebuild. Their college-heavy draft, getting Goodwin, looking at guys like Ryon Healy – I think they just hate losing and want a drive to 75…wins.
Dayton Moore has been the GM for over 10 years. He built 2 WS teams and 1 title after years of “the process”.
Those 2 WS titles could have easily been a wild card bounce and an early exit. If that happens. no one cares and GMDM is probably (hopefully) out. I get that what really happened matters and flags fly forever. But they should seriously consider what he actually had control over.
Something I have been thinking about a lot is the Montgomery/Meyers/Odorizzi for Shields/Davis. Davis absolutely helped with that dynamic pen. But Odorizzi is probably a better than Shields. Montgomery turned out to be a solid RP. Plus they already had a good pen. Meyers isn’t great but he would have been cheaper with more service time. That probably extends the window.
Odorizzi, Montgomery, and Myers also took several years total to become effective players.
As for “could have easily been…”, that’s baseball. Always a lot of luck along the way, good and bad. What GMDM has control over is acquiring talent within the payroll constraints of the 3rd smallest market. And yes, flags fly forever.
always a lot of luck, sure. but you can improve your odds by not shortening the window (Shields trade) and not prolonging the inevitable (not selling last year or even the prior year).
if there was a GM draft held, I doubt there’d be many drafted after GMDM.
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Not shortening the window would have delayed the window opening. And at the time of the trade Myers was challenged by breaking stuff at AAA, Montgomery was seemingly always coming back from injury, and Odorizzi was a nibbler who needed 110 pitches to get through five innings.
I think it’s hard to complain too much about a GM who got his team to two consecutive World Series appearances, one resulting in the title, when there are two franchises who have never appeared in a World Series at all, and seven franchises who have never won a World Series. One appearance might be called mere luck, but back-to-back appearances suggest there was something there beyond luck.
I wonder if they considered Keon Broxton who seems to have the raw tools to be a pretty good 2Bman. I always thought that Shaw was a stretch at 3B. Can’t see his lack of range playing at 2B.
Ultimately they’re not looking for defensive replacements at 2B, they’re looking for offensive upgrades in the #7 spot. If Broxton’s had enough offensive production to make this idea appealing, he’d actually be getting starts in the OF.
The Royals logic could also be “this is too much value to turn down.” It sounds like there’s a reasonable chance he’s a starting CF with a half-decade of control. That’s an incredibly valuable player, and a great haul for a rental bat. It’s possible that Phillips is just straight up better than whatever single-A guys they were being offered.
For a team without much short-term hope or a clear wave of prospects on the horizon, getting surplus value at whatever level you can, and then figuring out the fit later seems like a reasonable strategy.
If we think that the Brewers overpaid a bit, it’s hard to imagine that this package couldn’t have gotten them Brian Dozier, or at least most of the way there. A better fit for Milwaukee, and these prospects fit the Twins’ timetable much more than KC’s.
It’s almost like these professional front offices have their own opinions on these players, and aren’t just following what the crowd thinks is the most sensible option.
In general, professional front offices probably know more more than the crowd. But they also have to deal with organizational pressures that the crowd does not. Thus making for an interesting debate as to whether the crowd or the org has the right of a particular trade.