MLB and the MLBPA Have Made Their Opening Offers

It’s May 29, roughly two full months into the regular season, which means, given the year, that it’s time for everyone’s favorite pastime: parsing competing proposals for a new collective bargaining agreement. Wednesday, the MLBPA released its first proposal for a new agreement. Thursday, MLB followed suit with a proposal of its own. Both are best thought of as opening offers, likely to be heavily modified as the negotiations heat up ahead of the existing agreement’s December 1 expiration. But that doesn’t mean that they’re meaningless. I think these early offers are revealing of what each side cares about most. The specific numbers quoted are unlikely to survive multiple rounds of bargaining, but the concepts and structures that each side favors at this stage could tell us a lot about what an eventual compromise looks like. So without getting too bogged down in the details, let’s peruse both proposals and try to tease out what each side is trying to accomplish.
The MLBPA’s Proposal
The players’ first salvo focuses on two things: revenue sharing and early-career pay. Revenue sharing is going to be a key point of discussion in this negotiation. The league has raised competitive balance concerns for years, and it’s clear that there’s public interest in leveling the playing field. Collectively bargained labor agreements don’t solely play out in the court of public opinion, but making the sport more interesting and marketable is a benefit for both sides, so a more balanced system of distributing revenue seems like a clear path towards sustaining the game’s recent growth.
The central piece of the MLBPA revenue sharing proposal is a redistribution of TV money. Currently, teams share a flat 48% of all local revenue, TV included. The MLBPA proposal would change that significantly. In their framework, the first $50 million from each team’s local TV contract, and two-thirds of the amount above $50 million, would be pooled centrally, along with all national TV revenue.
Without comprehensive TV rights details, the exact redistributive nature of this proposal isn’t precisely measurable, but it’ll be a lot. Based on the last public set of local TV revenues I was able to source, local TV revenue sharing under the current CBA amounts to roughly $1.1 billion in pooled and redistributed money. The union’s proposal would increase that pool to roughly $2 billion. That’s a rough match for the league’s current national TV revenues.
The new method for pooling TV money would be redistributive, particularly for teams at the top end. The Dodgers and Yankees each have deals that reportedly pay them well into nine figures. A team that makes $200 million in local TV revenue today keeps about $140 million of that money after accounting for what they pay into the revenue sharing pool plus their share of the pooled local TV money. Under the new system, they’d only keep around $116 million. Conversely, a team with a $35 million local deal takes home $55 million in total local TV money under the current system; they’d get $67 million under the union’s proposal.
This TV money goes towards one of the union’s headline points: Each team will receive $240 million in revenue sharing from the league (subject to increases over time). To handle the fact that TV revenue is uncertain but $240 million is a fixed number, revenue from local income streams aside from TV would be redistributed at a flexible rate determined by the minimum amount necessary to fill the pool enough to distribute $240 million to each club. The numbers are inherently subject to change, but given the current amount of central revenue and national TV deal money already being divided, this would result in a meaningful decrease in local revenue sharing, partially offsetting the increase in TV-based sharing. In other words, teams would pocket a greater amount of their in-stadium revenues, but share the wealth on broadcast deals, resulting in a net increase in redistribution.
A number of ancillary proposals further this attempt. Teams that receive revenue sharing money – “payees” – would be eligible for a variety of incentives, from extra revenue sharing for posting a winning record or making the playoffs, to bonus draft picks for signing top free agents. A “competitive integrity tax” set at half the CBT threshold would withhold revenue sharing from teams that don’t meet a minimum payroll. Proposed changes to the allowable structure of transfer payments between RSNs and teams would make it tougher for teams to hide revenues behind co-ownership deals with local networks. Broadly speaking, the union’s proposal would increase revenue sharing, and it would focus on TV revenue to do so.
On the player compensation side, the proposal contains a laundry list of changes. There’s one clear throughline, though: increasing compensation for players who have not yet reached free agency. First, the minimum salary would rise to $1.5 million in 2027 and continue increasing from there. Similarly, the minimum arbitration tender would become $3 million – a de facto minimum salary for arb-eligible players. Finally, past arbitration awards would be adjusted higher for the purposes of future comps – by 20%, up to a maximum of $2 million.
The first two changes are self-explanatory. The last one is more complex, but it would increase arbitration awards, with the greatest percentage increase going to players who earn arbitration salaries in the high single-digit millions. As a ballpark figure, I estimate that these early-career salary reforms would add $450 million to $550 million to annual player salaries, meaningfully narrowing the gap between the salaries paid to free agents and those paid to the rank-and-file players who populate the league.
A number of additional changes are designed to further these goals. The pre-arbitration bonus pool would more than double, and it would no longer pay incentives to players who have signed long-term extensions. Draft pick rewards for early promotions would be expanded. Super-Two eligibility would be expanded. Certain older players would reach free agency a year earlier, though their team could guarantee them a salary similar to the current qualifying offer to retain that extra year of team control.
The MLBPA proposal also contains a number of points that I think we’re too early in the process to have much clarity on. The proposal includes an increase in the CBT threshold, naturally. The exact number ($300 million) and the new thresholds, bands, penalties, and so on are all subject to change. I don’t take concrete numbers exchanged this early in a negotiation process seriously. Finally, a number of small changes – tweaks to the draft lottery, guaranteeing arbitration awards, ending the qualifying offer – will no doubt be negotiated further, but don’t seem to be a part of the key points being debated here.
At its core, the union’s proposal is about overhauling revenue sharing and increasing the salary paid to early-career players. I think their revenue sharing changes are good, but they don’t radically alter the existing landscape. The increased redistribution of TV money makes good sense to me. The amount that revenue sharing would change by comes out to just around 15-25%, per my back-of-the-envelope math. What’s more, the total change in revenue sharing payments would likely be lower because of the proposed higher CBT thresholds. But given that those higher thresholds are likely to change, and given that teams change their behavior based on those thresholds, I didn’t feel comfortable estimating the magnitude of that effect. At the end of the day, though, this proposal mostly leaves baseball’s revenue sharing intact, with its main effect being that it bulks up the existing system’s ability to redistribute TV money.
The increase in salary for early-career players is something I’m strongly in favor of, and I think that the union’s proposals are steps in the right direction across the board. I also think that leaving the existing arbitration system mostly intact makes sense; if we were starting from scratch, I’d prefer designing a different system, but there’s strong institutional inertia that isn’t worth counteracting. Making changes to the league minimum and adding to the pre-arb bonus pool are both huge, obvious wins for the players.
MLB’s Proposal
As expected, the league proposed a hard salary cap and floor, the first time MLB has proposed such a system since 1994, with an initial $171.2 million minimum and a $245.3 million maximum. Players would receive 50% of “baseball revenue,” left mostly undefined by the league but used for the remainder of this article as a term of art. Teams would share all TV revenue, both local and national, equally. Those are the key parts to the league’s proposal. Everything else appears to be left either vague or simply unaddressed so that more attention can be focused on the cap/floor system.
The cap numbers look arbitrary, but they seem based around keeping the total payroll outlay in the league unchanged. If you apply MLB’s cap and floor numbers to our estimated 2026 payroll numbers, bumping the 12 teams below the floor up to $171.2 million and moving the eight teams above the cap below $245.3 million, league-wide projected CBT payroll moves from $6.185 billion to $6.189 billion. In other words, this initial offer seems based specifically on stabilizing the amount that teams are paying to players at the current amount, with levels chosen with that goal in mind.
I don’t think you should focus too much on the specific numbers in the league’s proposal, though. “No increase in player payroll” on its own would be an aggressive stance to take into a contract negotiation. Offering that while also agitating for a salary cap, the single biggest line for the union, suggests to me that these numbers are either a public negotiating stance or simply an illustration of what the cap might look like if applied to this year’s payrolls. Leagues with a salary cap don’t have hard, negotiated limits; the cap fluctuates based on revenue. Thus, the devil here is in the details.
A cap and floor system depends on several things. First, it isn’t workable without a strong revenue-sharing mechanism. Second, it isn’t credible without a contractually guaranteed split of revenues, with a fixed percentage earmarked for players. The league’s proposal addresses these two aspects, but only in generalities; specific information is likely to emerge at a later date.
The league goes slightly further than the union proposal in reallocating TV revenues. MLB’s proposal would pool all local TV revenue, period, while the union proposal is more like 90% of all revenues after applying their sliding scale. For the most part, though, the two sides seem to agree on this point. That’s a good sign that some version of expanded local TV revenue sharing will end up in any eventual agreement.
The rest of the team revenue sharing changes are broadly unaddressed. The league’s proposal is heavy on broad, un-fleshed-out ideas. I approximated the change in revenue sharing in the MLBPA proposal, but an estimate based on the league’s proposal is impossible without more details than we currently have. I think a reasonable assumption is that transfer payments would be largely unchanged under this proposed system, because the increased TV money would be offset by the roughly $400 million in tax payments that the nine teams that exceeded the 2025 CBT threshold made last year vanishing. About half of that was transferred directly to revenue sharing receivers. No luxury tax, no luxury tax transfer payments.
It’s likely that there are some unreported mechanisms for further revenue sharing, but I was unable to confirm any specific details. A fuller discussion of the particulars will no doubt happen over the coming months. But it’s likely that any mechanisms will be heavily focused on one thing: increasing franchise values. The league has been clear and open about this. Any change in revenue sharing, and indeed the push for a salary cap, will be built around finding a way to make teams worth more money. Thus, the more important part of the league’s proposal is how it defines the amount of money going to the players.
In keeping with the rest of the publicly available details of the league’s proposal, we don’t know much about how MLB would define “baseball revenue.” It’s clear that this is a difficult needle to thread. Rob Manfred himself has said that players received less than 50% of baseball revenue in 2024, the most recent time he spoke on the split, which makes the league’s position somewhat confusing. The league seems to have picked its cap levels to keep payroll constant, and it also declared that there would be a 50/50 revenue split, but it appears to believe that players currently receive less than 50% of baseball revenue. Something doesn’t add up, which only furthers my conviction that this plan is aspirational, not specific.
Total revenue for a sports league is hard to define, and it’s particularly hard to define in baseball, where TV rights are sold locally, partial team ownership of regional sports networks is common, and more than a few teams own real estate ventures around their stadiums. A robust proposal for a salary cap would include an exhaustive accounting of how revenue is calculated. The incentives to hide or miscategorize revenue are meaningfully larger when payrolls vary as a function of revenues. We’re probably too early in the negotiations for that, and neither side is likely to trust the other to define it correctly, but it’s worth keeping an eye on as negotiations continue.
The exact details on what “baseball revenue” entails would be important if this offer from the league were a serious negotiating stance, but I think it’s fairly clear that it’s just posturing. This proposal contained no details about minimum salaries, arbitration, player salaries, service time, pre-arbitration bonus pools, carve-outs to the cap, implementation methodology, or even a discussion of how a salary cap might come into being in 2027 while the Dodgers are more than $100 million over the proposed upper bound in committed salaries. It’s clear that nothing about this deal is supposed to be binding or a final offer.
The league’s complete lack of interest in details makes sense if you believe that it’s committed to gaining a cap and completely agnostic about how the players divide up whatever money is allotted to them. If you add a salary cap, player compensation becomes a zero-sum game. Free agency details? What does the league care? It’s set a contractual level of payroll. Increased minimum salaries? That money wouldn’t be coming out of ownership’s pocket.
The cap and floor numbers are also quite wide for a salary-capped league. The NFL floors team salaries at 89% of the cap, on a four-year average basis. The NBA floors team salaries at 90% of a soft cap, but “cap” isn’t well-defined in basketball thanks to an escalating structure of over-the-first-cap rules that approximates the current MLB competitive balance tax. The NHL floor is around 75% of their cap, though at much lower levels than the other leagues. The proposed MLB structure would set the floor at 70% of the cap, the widest by a fair margin and much wider than the sports that MLB is most directly akin to – the NHL is just a far smaller outfit overall.
That leads to further questions about the structure that would also need to be fleshed out. With a contractual salary split, a team moving from the bottom of the band to the top of the band could mechanically push other minimum-salary teams below the minimum, thanks to the way escrow and clawback mechanisms work. Likewise, a team reducing its spending in one year could push other high-spending teams above the cap as equalization payments went out to players. Tighter bands between ceiling and floor would make this less of an issue, but I’m fairly certain that MLB pushed the floor as high as they could given the contingent of small-market owners who have consistently resisted any increase in spending. The resulting system seems very difficult to balance, at least until we get further details that change my understanding of this agreement.
I’ve seen a fair bit of handwringing that the distance between these proposals, and the language in them, signals that we’re sure to lose games next year. That may well happen, but here I’ll just note that negotiations involve antagonistic bargaining. No negotiator worth their salt would say that the other side’s initial offer was good. For that matter, no negotiator worth their salt would propose something the other side might accept as an initial offer. Brinksmanship means that an agreement is unlikely until we face real deadlines, and hyperbolically portraying your opponent’s position in public is a time-honored negotiation strategy in labor disputes. Why do you think both sides are talking about competitive balance so much in a negotiation about franchise values and revenue splits?
In any case, my takeaway from these two competing proposals is that they had very different goals, and thus were very different, to the point of being in different languages. The MLBPA proposal is incremental; it goes into great detail about a few specific changes – TV revenue sharing and early-career salary – and largely leaves the broad structure of baseball economics alone. MLB’s proposal is the opposite. It’s so alien to the existing system that they didn’t really bother with details. It’s a think piece, essentially – imagine the league if it were very different, then try to fill in the details at a later date. Neither of them has a remote chance of being accepted without major modifications.
It’s easy to understand why the league’s proposal is unlikely to be accepted. The MLBPA has drawn a bright line around a capped system, and the league isn’t even offering a single enticement to try to change players’ minds. That’s not a real offer. The players’ offer doesn’t touch a third rail in the same way, but it purposefully asks for more than the owners will accept. They want to increase early-career pay – great! They also want to raise the CBT by a ton, and let guys reach free agency sooner, and rebuild arb, and make more players eligible for Super Two, and plenty more. There aren’t a lot of concessions in this proposal, not much to entice the owners. It’s an initial position, so that’s kind of the point, but neither of these is a realistic picture of what baseball will look like next year.
There’s a lot of room between the two initial proposals, but I think that it’s fairly clear that TV revenues are going to get shared more evenly at the end of this process. That’s one of Manfred’s long-term goals, which makes it an owner priority, and it’s also a clear way to increase competitive balance without directly constraining player salaries, which means the union is on board. What else will come out of this? I’m not sure. But so far, the opposing sides aren’t speaking the same language. Baseball is in full swing, and there’s little pressure to bring this negotiation to the foreground while fans are focused on actual on-field delight instead of dry arguments about money. Come November, the urgency will pick up. But at the moment, my only takeaway is that next year, TV revenues aren’t going to be shared the same way that they are now, and we have a long way to go before we get there.
Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.
Not that I disagree that whatever deal ends up being struck ends up looking very different from either of these opening proposals – but curious about your statement that the owners’ proposal does not “offer[] a single enticement” to offset its touching of the third rail w/r/t the salary cap. Isn’t the “enticement” – persuasive or not – the corresponding salary floor? Like, if we believe that there are a lot of talented players who really would like to stick around in Miami, Minnesota, Kansas City, etc. if only those organizations (1) were willing to pay those players competitively and (2) were willing to spend to surround them with other talented players, the existence of a floor would be great news for those players! If anything, MLBPA’s proposal – which weakens and raises the CBT thresholds and would introduce a soft floor – seems more obviously “And why would the owners have any interest whatsoever in this” to me.
Love how fans continue to think it’s the players that need to fix the competitive balance in the league
it feels like there’s just a lot of talking past each other on the competitive balance front.
Is there a perfectly linear relationship between payroll and wins (or WS win probability)? Obviously not. Is there a strong relationship between them? Yes.
Could many owners spend much more than they do? Yes. In particular, teams like the Giants, Cubs, and Red Sox seem to have revenue streams that would support spending much more on their product than they do, and teams like the Guardians spend so little that it’s inconceivable that they couldn’t spend more. But would Guggenheim operate a team in a market like Cincinnati the way they do in Los Angeles? Absolutely not, and some of the “yOuR tEaM cAn dO tHiS tOo” rhetoric every time a team with a $300 million payroll makes a $300 million payroll team move has worn on me.
The following all seem like viable stances:
(1) There is no competitive balance problem. MLB postseason is high variance, and a lot of the small-market teams are clumped into divisions (cough cough, the Centrals) with each other, plus the playoffs have been expanded. There’s no difference between being a contender to make the playoffs and a contender to win a championship.
(2) There’s a competitive balance problem. Sure, teams like the Guardians, Brewers, and Rays are good bets to make the playoffs in any given year, but they’re also good bets to get steamrolled by the Yankees, Dodgers, etc. Plus, there are certain teams for which it is strategically optimal to constantly trade stars before they hit free agency, meaning that certain fanbases are in a perpetual state of watching their favorite players cycled out to keep a contention window going.
(3) The big-market teams do indeed enjoy some inherent advantages, but suck it up. When Brewers owner Mark Attanasio rhetorically asked whether his job was to win a World Series or to “provide a summer of entertainment,” he was onto something. Guess what, Brewers fans? You’ll never experience a 5-year window when your team is the World Series favorite at the start of each year. But you seem like you’re having a great time! And even if being the Dodgers isn’t broadly replicable with good front office personnel, being the Brewers probably is.
What isn’t a viable stance, IMO, is “The difference between the Dodgers and 25 other teams is that Dodgers ownership cares about the fans and, if those other owners cared as much, they’d be right there too.”
100% agree on that last part. The Dodgers ownership is acting just as rationally as the rest. Their additional spending correlates with additional revenue that increases overall profitability. They aren’t lighting money on fire for their fans’ entertainment.
How would the Guardians improve their team by spending money? What is the hole that can be filled on their roster by spending tens of millions?
Um, spending on any number of talented hitters in any given year? They roll out one of the weakest lineups every year because they refuse to spend even a little on hitting.
I instinctually agree with your premise that Hal Steinbrenner either needs to own his competitive advantage or shut the FUCK up about wages…but you’re missing a trick:
What if the same class of people who lied to you to stop High Speed Rail in California, and lied to you about invading Iraq, and lied to you about avoiding foreign wars, are lying to you about this?
You do realize revenue distribution is a part of the CBA?
Agree and fwiw this rationale is why I don’t really understand MLBPA’s line in the sand on the issue. I get it from an emotional appeal standpoint, but I think their line is very much capitulating to status quo rather than figuring out how to safeguard the league and players for the next X years.
As Ben mentions the level of detail in a status quo proposal of course is much higher than a proposal / de facto past-due reckoning to change the game.
I say past-due reckoning because I think MLB is very fortunate to be so successful despite tremendous imbalance between teams.
I’d sooner bet on: the logic that a greater share of 30 teams meaningfully competing for the playoffs each year is better short and long term for league and teams and players all.
I would NOT bet on: league success thus far as proof that the status quo is a strong bet for continued success.
I say past-due reckoning because I think MLB is very fortunate to be so successful despite tremendous imbalance between teams.
Is that true, strictly speaking? There’s plenty of examples of sports leagues with tremendous imbalance that are still quite popular. College football and European soccer leagues come to mind immediately.
I’ve got to talk to a fan of some consistent mid- to lower-table EPL team some time, because as someone who grew up an NFL fan and became a baseball fan a little while later, that experience seems completely alien to me.
Like, what do you mean, you’ve known your whole life that it’s extraordinarily unlikely that your team will ever win the league (unless it’s bought out by a sovereign wealth fund) so you simply take joy in avoiding relegation and occasionally pulling off a win against one of the big clubs?
There are not 162 games in the Premier League, for one thing. You can sustain some malaise across 19 home games. Not 81.
Yes. While everyone dreams of becoming the next Leicester, supporters of mid-table clubs much less relegation contenders realize that is wildly unrealistic. European clubs are very much about the community and the experience of attending matches. Most clubs will go decades without a trophy.
To be honest, some of my favorite moments being an Orioles fan were the tanking seasons when we pulled off an unexpected win against the Yankees or Red Sox. Hearing British schoolchildren on a field trip chanting Antony Santander’s name because Santander is a major bank in Europe had a magic that few things can top.
I want the O’s to win, and I get frustrated when things go badly, but I never want my fandom to be dictated by winning. I want to enjoy the experience and support the team regardless of the result.
How dare you describe your lived experience to a 2026 joiner who was operating in SUCH good faith?
You probably blame Jeffrey Loria for Montreal and Miami!!!
If you’d like to talk to a Browns fan, I can accommodate.
You’re right. Its not strictly speaking true…your comment’s illuminating my biases (aka, a preference that a league of 30 teams has 30 teams that are trying, and an idealistic belief being that 30 trying teams will yield more lifelong fans of the game). IMO a tightband between cap and floor seems the best way to get there.
Breaking the cartel via relegation seems far more likely to alter their behavior than acceding to all of their lies.
Would be likely to alter behavior, but with no realistic chance to be implemented. Nothing wrong with thinking about radically redesigning the system, but that’s not on the table in current collective bargaining.
Prepare to be sued by FSG.
It has been a long, long time since I was involved with a CBA negotiation so if someone could fill in the details I would appreciate it, but my understanding is that as of now the salary cap is a permissive subject, and if they start engaging with it then it might not stay that way.
i believe that even if they do engage, a permissive subject cannot result in an impasse in bargaining. at least that’s how it’s gone in my experience with teamsters. not sure it’s apples-to-apples.
In any case there are a lot of reasons to think that competitive balance is an issue, but I think the MLBPA proposal actually does a pretty good job of dealing with that.
The other big threat to the game is the fact that owners whole business plan was to hold consumers hostage via cable packages, and that is no longer viable. The owners haven’t seriously considered competing for fans with other leagues for years, and it shows. They should be promoting baseball–not just their product–like crazy to every community with kids in the USA. And every single MLB game should be close to a sellout because most kids who go to a games regularly becomes an adult who is a fan of the game. There’s an entire generation of kids who are now young adults who didn’t go to baseball games as a kid because they were too expensive. Things are going to really fall off a cliff for them if they don’t figure out how to convert more kids into being baseball fans.
This is a good point. I’m an upper middle class dude with kids and even I hate paying $12 for a beer. Taking my family of four to a game ends up being a $200 experience, minimum. If it was cheaper I would go to more ball games.
It’s not entirely baseball’s fault, though, for the lack of kid baseball fans. Kids just spend less time outdoors now. There is a lot more competition in the kid activity space.
I really think that it should be possible to get a family of four into the ballpark with actual seats in a semi-normal part of the stadium for $120, and $150 with food and soda. Minimum of four tickets, and two of the tickets have to be used on people under 16. Maybe under 14? They don’t have to be great seats.They just have to be seats with a back where you can see the game.
Honestly it probably should be $100 and $125 but everything is so much more expensive now I don’t think that is realistic. I also make pretty good money and it is just shocking how much it costs to get four people to the park, let alone get them hot dogs and lemonade.
I live in NYC, life long Mets fan, but I take my son to more Cyclones games because we can’t afford MLB. If the owners want to present a salary cap for the players, how about capping their own income with a ticket & concessions price cap?
Jack Welch disagrees – and you can trust his judgment based on how much money he ransacked from the dying husk of GE!
At least the chucklefucks gutted the minors, and don’t think they’ve gone far enough?
Things are going to really fall off a cliff for them if they don’t figure out how to convert more kids into being baseball fans.
I hear this frequently, and have for a couple of decades now. But I’m not sure how true it is.
Baseball continues to break revenue records, and there’s just not much competition for professional sports eyeballs and dollars in the summer.
Time will tell of course, but I think that given the population of the US there will be plenty of fans out there that will be more than happy to support a winner.
I guess the piece of MLBPA’s proposal I’m wary of, which also predisposes me to a high hard-cap floor, is: “A “competitive integrity tax” set at half the CBT threshold would withhold revenue sharing from teams that don’t meet a minimum payroll.”
I just dont think thats strong enough. Maybe that’s a better mechanism than a hard flat fee floor. But its still a wide band.
That doesn’t address your points about ballpark costs….and by extension, lifelong fans by way of television vs. park….but thats a much larger discussion!
The fact that the owners’ plan includes a pooling of all TV revenue indicates that they recognize that the salad days of RSN rights packages are coming to an end.
As to general affordability … all of the major sports are grossly expensive to attend in person. In as much as MLB ownership might want to position themselves as more attractive than other sports, they’re unlikely so slash tickets/merch/concession costs so drastically below that of the other sports.
I once mentioned to a MLB executive that my wife, who has no interest in sports, knows what sport Babe Ruth played; she knows what sport Micky Mantle played; she knows what sport Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan played; however, she has no idea what sport Mike Trout plays. He admitted that Baseball had a problem with promoting its stars but didn’t explain why.
This may be less of an issue with Shohei Ohtani and (to a much lesser extent) Aaron Judge now but I am pretty sure they are the only ones who are recognizable to non-MLB followers. Pedro, Ichiro, Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, Albert Pujols, Miguel Cabrera, Mariano Rivera…I don’t think they have any idea who they are. I don’t even know if non-fans know who Derek Jeter is, and he was in TV ads and such.
My wife knows Ohtani. That’s it.
You’re assuming quite a lot of functional business ability on behalf of a collection of weird losers whose daddies gave them a baseball team because they had better shit to do than parent.
I am assuming they can *hire* people who are functional business people but I am also assuming they will not.
What defines “meaningfully competing for the playoffs”? Would you have considered the White Sox as “meaningfully competing for the playoffs” before the season? How about the Nationals? The Rays? Because I’d say all three of those teams are “meaningfully competing for the playoffs” as of the 1/3 mark of the season.
In the expanded playoff era, “meaningfully competing for the playoffs” is already quite a large share of the league. It’s never going to be 100% in any given season (if it is, you’ve likely expanded the playoffs too far), but what is the right percentage?
MLB existed for many, many years where the percent of teams “meaningfully competing for the playoffs” was a much, much lower % than it is now.
Thats fair but I suppose I’d still call it early. A heuristic for meaningfully competing might be buying vs standing pat vs selling at deadline. For example until the Nats went over .500 plenty of outlets thought the Nats would flip Griffin at deadline.
It will never be 100% but I think what ppl find grating is teams that very obviously do not and will not try. And floors at least penalize non-competing.
There are two sources of profitability for MLB franschises. 1. Yearly profit (revenues less expenses, which is sometimes, for some teams, negative). 2. Increase in the value of franchises, which is not a small amount — Cohen bought the Mets for $2.4 billion six years ago and they are now estimated to be worth $3.5 billion (which seems a little low considering the Padres’ sale price),. The players get zero benefit from 2, and the owners are proposing that they share revenues 50-50, which almost assures annual profitabilty for the owners. I don’t know about you, but I don’t go to the ballpark or turn on the tube to watch the owners. It has hard to quantify what value, if any, they add (and in a number of teams they clearly detract from value). If competitive balance needs to be fixed, MLB should not be asking the players to pay for it. It’s the owners who have set up the system, the owners who are reaping the profits of increasing franchise value and the owners who will benefit most if greater balance improves the fortunes of the sport.
This to me is the main point and the one thing owners could do to get players to bargain on revenue sharing and a salary cap. If revenue was defined broadly enough so that every time an owner sold or a team, half the appreciation in the value of the team went into salaries (divided over the next five or ten years), you might convince the players that a partnership model works better than the current system. As it is, you have owners pretending literally trying to con the players into letting them keep their main source of profits while claiming to be partners.
The enticement to the owners is “we won’t look to closely at the books.” If you are going to have a true revenue share system, which is the basis of all other leagues with caps, the owners have to open their books and this they have been unwilling to do.
The owners have opened their books to the MLBPA for many years, the MLBPA is just not allowed to publish what they see in them.
And THIS is why I believe the 2027 season is in grave danger. There has been (as far as I can tell) no “Come to Jesus” with ownership about opening books. The NFL did that, but Manfred is just a lackey/water carrier.
More importantly, he’s fucking BAD AT IT.
Far too focused on winning every interaction than understanding what his clients want, why they want it, and how to get them as much of it as possible.
How does a salary floor entice players when total spending on payroll won’t increase? Why should the union prioritize the tiny minority of talented players who play in small markets at the expense of the rest of the players?
Is that a tiny minority? It seems to me that the actual tiny minority is “players who hit free agency and are offered contracts by large-market teams that small-market teams would be unwise to match” (I think Edwin Diaz is a good example here, since certainly every team ‘could afford’ to pay a player $25 million a year, but it would be disastrous for most of them to allocate so much money to a relatively low-impact, high-variability spot) and that the majority of players would be more greatly affected by increases in league minimum salaries or reforms to the arbitration process.
If you’re narrowing it down to
then yes, that is absolutely a tiny minority. Plenty of those players sign extensions and do stick around those places: Witt, Maikel Garcia, Salvy, Buxton, Jose Ramirez, Brent Rooker, Lawrence Butler, just to name a few.
The floor offered by the league doesn’t mention anything about increases to minimum salaries or arb numbers. Until they say otherwise, there’s no reason to believe a floor would include them. Seems to me that teams currently under the floor would be slightly more likely to offer extensions to pre-arb players, but would largely operate the same as they do now, save for filling out the margins with 1-2 year free agent deals for veterans to meet the floor. At that level, I think the floor is much more likely to get Lucas Giolito, Luis Severino, & Chris Bassitt paid than Elly de La Cruz or Steven Kwan
A cap-and-floor is redistributive, and the “players” are not a monolith. Practically, a cap would push down the salaries of the top top players (can’t spend $50M-$60M on Soto or Tucker when the cap is $245M) and raise it for everyone else. That’s an incentive for the majority of players (and a redistribution that most people would support philosophically, I imagine) even if it’s a strong disincentivize for a small-but-vocal group of the union.
The league’s proposal does not specify how this would raise the salaries of the majority of players. Without specifying guaranteed increases to minimum salaries and arbitration, what is enforcing this redistribution?
The league’s proposal doesn’t get into the details of how the players would divide up their pie because it is the owners’ interest for the superstar players and the ham-and-eggers to be at odds with each other.
If most (or all) of the TV money is thrown into a pot and shared back out proportionally to every team, then the threat of withholding it is the easiest mechanism by which to enforce any sort of spending rule.
I’m sure the owners would love to include max contract amounts and length, but no point crafting a detailed proposal if it won’t be considered at all.
Show your work, lad.
A salary cap and floor always comes with an increase in total spending. Part of the CBA will be requiring that a certain percentage of league revenue (not profit) be given to the players.
jd, some folks don’t like facts…
While I’ll certainly agree that the number of player with such preferences is not zero, I’d be very surprised if net-net the players felt a positive intangible pull towards Kansas City and Cleveland over the cultural deserts of LA and NY.
You have to remember that Fangraphs <-> MLBPA. Fangraphs does not do analysis on the CBA, they rationalize for the union leadership.
The reality is the players did not make a proposal. They submitted a wishlist to Papa Manfred, and asked him if they could take the car out on Friday night. It’s the weakest proposal I’ve ever seen the MLBPA make.
MLB’s proposal increases the salary floor beyond what the players asked for, and does it in a way that not only guarantees greater player compensation overall but spreads it out to more players. For Ben to claim that this includes no enticement for the players is frankly misleading his readers; at minimum it would negatively affect a small, small minority of stars (and even them only a small amount).
This has long been Fangraphs’ approach to CBA, along with the MLBPA’s: they miss the forest for the trees, then yell at clouds. The echo chamber leads to MLBPA continuing to get their ass handed to them in each round of negotiations, and that will happen even worse this time. MLB is about to sign broadcast deals worth potentially $100 billion, yes that is with a ‘b’. As of now the PA is entitled to none of that, and they’re quibbling over arbitration processes that are designed specifically to *limit* their value? Because, like, tradition?
The world has changed. The old economic model is no longer viable. I suspect the only thing the owners will offer under the current economic model is: this, an extension of the current deal. Exactly what we have now, no alterations. No increases to minimums, no additional contributions to bonus pools, no increases for inflation.
Why? Because the MLBPA has been led by a soon-to-be felon, who has been claiming the owners negotiate in bad faith when he was the one doing it, in order to enrich himself and his friends. There is no reason to offer concessions to an organization set up like a mafia organization.
The MLBPA is out to have a civil war, the owners know it, and they are willing to wait it out. The players have nothing to offer them under the existing economic model.
LMAO
This criticism of FG and the MLBPA having standpoints that are too similar was definitely true when Craig was writing the updates. But then he literally went to go work for the MLBPA because of that alignment. This is nothing like that.
Without making any reference to your comments about my impartiality, let me just get this straight:
-The owners are about to have an incredible, life-altering windfall of money hit them
-Instead of just doing nothing, agreeing to demands that aren’t a big deal compared to the scope of money you’re talking about, and pocketing that hilarious geyser of money, they’ve decided to risk blowing up their sport to enrich the players, at the expense of their own future profits
-They’re doing this out of, I suppose, the goodness of their hearts?
There’s an easy test of this. If the owners are interested in continuing the old way, all they have to do is not lock the players out when this CBA expires. It has a provision that if no new CBA is signed, the old one remains in force. If what you’re saying is true, there won’t be a lockout, because the owners would obviously love to continue under the old deal and with this huge life-altering amount of TV money just around the corner. We’ll see!
This is an interesting viewpoint. I have seen this negotiation as the owners wanting to radically change things and the players mostly wanting to keep the status quo. In that context, I question why the players would propose anything at all; then the owners come across as being more demanding because they are the ones really trying to shake things up and usually in union negotiations, the shoe is on the other foot. I think the players would like certain changes, but if they got offered to extend the current deal with no changes, they’d probably take it. Would that be a terrible outcome for them? For baseball overall?
lolol
He makes the 2026 joiner look smart, equivocal, and dispassionate!
I’m genuinely sorry that, despite your best efforts, you didn’t suffocate on the billionaires’ boot.
The tragedy of your survival has forced so many people to read this post…and all of us are dumber for it.
Yeah I thinking “there’s no enticement” is if you’re looking at the total compensation of players across the league not changing, but I agree that the way in which you reach that total matters. The big losers here are the guys looking for mega contracts, because teams intending to just sneak over the salary floor will not be handing those out, and the teams butting up against the salary ceiling (I don’t know why we have a floor and a cap and not a floor and a ceiling!) can only give so many.
But the winners are baseball’s middle class. Suddenly they have a lot more teams bidding for them, because they have to hit that salary floor. I think this system would move from “the rest of the league picks through the bin of players the Dodgers, Mets and Yankees passed on” to “The Dodgers, Mets and Yankees hand out the whopper contracts, suddenly the entire league is bidding on everyone else”. The total amount of money in the system stays the same but the bell curve gets flattened.
What baffles me about the MLBPA proposal is what good they think the changes to revenue sharing will do, if we already have a problem with teams just pocketing that $$. If you’re going to increase revenue sharing, it has to be paired with a hard floor, not just with an implicit floor created by raising the minimum salary.
The MLBPA’s proposal has a tax on teams who don’t spend.
Did you read it?
I’m amused that the top comment on a contentious topic like this has 0 likes/dislikes a day later.