NL Wild Card Game Live Blog

6:36
Paul Swydan: Hi everybody!

Jeff Sullivan and myself will be here with you all night long, if last night is any indication. So come fill up the queue with warmup questions, and we’ll chat the night away. I will make an effort to be in here before the game starts, but I can only guarantee I’ll be here for first pitch.

See you soon!

7:59
Paul Swydan: One minute guys. Literally just searching for the remote.

8:01
Paul Swydan: OK, mercifully found it between two pillows. One more sec, setting up polls.

8:02
Paul Swydan: Another amazing game!

8:02
Paul Swydan: Giants

8:02
Paul Swydan: Giants

8:03
Jeff Sullivan: I also had lost my remote!

8:03
Paul Swydan: OK, three polls up.

8:03
Jeff Sullivan: I intentionally hid it from myself last night because I was tired of the television. I didn’t know that worked

8:04
Paul Swydan: Hey if you guys didn’t read Jeff’s piece on Jarrod Dyson, you should do that now-ish.

8:04
Comment From Jack Z
Predictions?

8:04
Jeff Sullivan: I wouldn’t do it now, there’s a new game starting!

8:04
Paul Swydan: I’ll say 5-3 Pirates.

8:04
Jeff Sullivan: oh what the hell, 7-2 Giants

8:05
Jeff Sullivan: I don’t know what the point of predictions is but I’m feeling a bummer of a game after yesterday

8:05
Comment From Ruki
Prediction: 4-2, Giants

8:05
Comment From Lyle
1-0 Giants

8:05
Comment From Pennsy
PNC Park: Best stadium in the playoffs, or best stadium any time?

8:05
Paul Swydan: I don’t know, I still haven’t been. Sad face.

8:06
Comment From Mr. T
My prediction…. Pain!

8:06
Comment From Guest
Giants 4 – 1

8:06
Comment From benjamin
4-2 buccos

8:06
Comment From zmiko
3-2 Pirates

8:06
Comment From Jaack
Prediction: Barry Bonds’ team wins.

8:07
Comment From Seth F
4-2 Giants

8:07
Jeff Sullivan: A year ago, the Pirates’ crowd was loud and charming and awesome. Now, not only do we know about them, but the Royals are the new kids. Going to be hard to top the noise we heard yesterday

8:08
Paul Swydan: I’m a little disappointed the Pirates are in alternate unis. I get that they’re trying to do a blackout tonight, but they’re called ALTERNATE unis for a reason.

8:08
Jeff Sullivan: I am always such a sucker for color-coordinated stadium crowds, except when it’s white

8:09
Paul Swydan: Agreed.

8:09
Jeff Sullivan: Black towels/pom poms? Stupid

8:09
Jeff Sullivan: NO ONE CAN SEE YOU

8:09
Paul Swydan: And, at first blush, it looks like this Pirates crowd did a heck of a job.

8:09
Paul Swydan: With the all black, that is.

8:09
Comment From James S
You’re a bitter old man Jeff

8:09
Jeff Sullivan: Nobody can see black! Or dark red

8:10
Jeff Sullivan: It’s not striking! That’s the point!

8:10
Comment From NickS
Should be black shirts and yellow towels

8:10
Comment From Guest
How many people are in the chat right now?

8:10
Paul Swydan: I agree that a yellow out would have been cooler, but perhaps it is jarring to the players nonetheless? Can you imagine even asking a player that with a straight face though? I can’t.

8:10
Jeff Sullivan: It ain’t yesterday, that’s for damned sure

8:11
Jeff Sullivan: Players have to respond to Eno with a straight face

8:11
Jeff Sullivan: Relevant fun fact: PNC is an underrated pitcher-friendly environment

8:11
Paul Swydan: Heinz getting that face time right from the start. Already a good night for them!

8:11
Comment From Matts
Obviously on any given day you’d want to put your best starter out there, but really how much of an impact would Cole have instead of Volquez? One game is kinda random anyway.

8:12
Jeff Sullivan: Gregor Blanco seems to feel like he should’ve homered. Does he know what a homer feels like off the bat?

8:12
Jeff Sullivan: MVP out to sliding MVP

8:12
Paul Swydan: I agree with you Matts, I didn’t see the harm in starting Cole on Sunday.

8:13
Paul Swydan: That was cool.

8:13
Comment From Compton
Is it just me, or is this center field camera angle dreadful? ROOT Sports Pittsburgh has the best center field camera in the league, why does ESPN’s suck?

8:13
Jeff Sullivan: Rule of thumb: unless you’re talking about real aces or real nightmares, there’s not an enormous swing in winning odds by pitcher identity, especially with the bullpens looming sooner than usual

8:13
Paul Swydan: Simple answer – ROOT might not share. I imagine they’re still taping the game.

8:14
Comment From Kimball
Giants radio color culling from Jeff’s piece on Pirates pitching inside

8:14
Jeff Sullivan: In fairness, people have known about that strategy for a while

8:14
Paul Swydan: Now that’s cool.

8:14
Comment From Human person
When did Boch flip-flop Posey and Sandoval? Was it midway thru this year? I remember Posey hitting cleanup until fairly recently

8:14
Jeff Sullivan: I like distinct team strategies. Bummer to have Oakland out because of that, but the Royals have one of their own I suppose

8:15
Paul Swydan: Posey has essentially been hitting 3rd all season.

http://www.baseball-referen…

8:15
Comment From NickS
Jeff, I feel like PNC is the most well-known underrated pitcher’s park.

8:15
Jeff Sullivan: Still hipster, but almost too well-recognized to be hipster!

8:15
Paul Swydan: It looks like Posey hit 4th for like a week before the All-Star break.

8:15
Jeff Sullivan: PNC Park’s pitcher-friendliness is the Decemberists

8:16
Comment From Julian
Your pick for surprise star of the game?

8:16
Paul Swydan: I will say Gaby Sanchez!

8:16
Jeff Sullivan: Edinson Volquez

8:16
Jeff Sullivan: Now my predictions don’t match anymore

8:16
Jeff Sullivan: Whatever, no one’s checking continuity

8:16
Paul Swydan: That’s why it’d be a surprise tho.

8:16
Comment From Grand Admiral Braun
Russell Martin seems like an obvious choice for the Cubs. ON Monday, Theo Epstein mentioned that they expect to contend for the division title in 2015 and a 3 or 4 year deal with Martin seems to fit their plan (as well as he being their type of player – high OB% and good defense).

8:17
Paul Swydan: Pirates recently said they’d go to the mattresses to keep him. Bottom line – Martin makes sense for like half the teams in the league. I had him in the Rockies’ blueprint for 2015 when I wrote that up last month too.

8:18
Jeff Sullivan: but I like that they’re still trying to us Rosario

8:18
Jeff Sullivan: it’s funny for gifs

8:18
Comment From Tucker
Does Volquez have the lowest regular season WAR among any “play-in” game starter?

8:18
Paul Swydan: I defended Rosario for a long time, but, it’s not working.

8:18
Jeff Sullivan: He’s lower than 2012 Joe Saunders, but I’m not sure he’s actually worse than 2012 Joe Saunders

8:18
Paul Swydan: I was just going to say Joe Saunders!

8:19
Comment From Jon
Does anybody like it when they look behind the hitter when the pitch is coming?

8:19
Jeff Sullivan: Absolutely no one, it’s done to infuriate

8:19
Jeff Sullivan: It does succeed in allowing us to more often appreciate the normal view

8:19
Paul Swydan: Yeah. That view should be for still photos only.

8:19
Jeff Sullivan: And even then it’s like “why is this a photo”

8:20
Comment From Tucker
Jeff, what is your X factor for this game? You were both right and wrong last night if I remember correctly

8:20
Jeff Sullivan: I don’t really have one in the same kind of way but I think if the Pirates are super aggressive with their bullpen they can get the pitching edge in this game by the fourth or the fifth inning

8:21
Jeff Sullivan: They have to know better than to try to push Volquez, and I think they do

8:21
Comment From Park Chan hos Beard
will the a’s always be doomed in the postseason with their strategy of acquiring underrated uppercut swingers? i understand it’s a decision born from financial constraints, but isn’t it easily exploitable with high heat?

8:21
Jeff Sullivan: 8 runs yesterday. We wouldn’t be talking about this if it weren’t for the run prevention

8:21
Jeff Sullivan: But it’s like, in retrospect, no wonder the Tigers shut them down

8:22
Jeff Sullivan: Mike Trout is easily exploitable with high heat, and he was worth 8 WAR

8:22
Paul Swydan: Also, Moss mashed at least one of his homers off a high fastball, so…

8:22
Jeff Sullivan: I think they were both low

8:22
Paul Swydan: I thought the second one was high. But I am frequently wrong.

8:22
Jeff Sullivan: Definitely low, after two high fastballs were taken

8:23
Comment From Santiago
Has the Pirates defense really been that bad?(by the numbers) I can’t believe it

8:23
Jeff Sullivan: Doubt it. Numbers don’t know what to do with shifting

8:23
Comment From Nick
Ohhhh Jeff 1 Paul 0

8:23
Jeff Sullivan: Big insight from Curt Schilling, when Volquez struggles it’s because he’s missing his spots

8:23
Paul Swydan: Add a couple zeroes to Jeff’s side!

8:24
Comment From Brandon
Pedro Alvarez is responsible for a good chunk of those bad defensive numbers

8:24
Comment From Steve O
Random, but what is the best minor league team name?

8:24
Jeff Sullivan: Volcanoes

8:24
Comment From Guest
FG should do a live podcast during these games to spare us all from listening to the national announcers

8:24
Jeff Sullivan: We talked about this yesterday — it’s illegal

8:24
Paul Swydan: Biscuits

8:25
Comment From David
Do you guys consider Bumgarner an Ace?

8:25
Jeff Sullivan: He’s about at my threshold. Hard to separate him from his league and park

8:25
Paul Swydan: Very much illegal! But appreciate the sentiment. I lobbied for Cameron to be the color guy on FOX when we signed with them this year!

8:25
Paul Swydan: Yeah, he’s 1A for me. I want him to be a #1, but Bochy ends up needing to lift him in the 5th inning more than a couple times a year.

8:26
Jeff Sullivan: John Kruk analyzing the shift, that’s exactly what we need

8:26
Comment From Glen
is it illegal to talk about the game without doing a play by play?

8:27
Paul Swydan: I’m not sure we could successfully pull off talking about a game without talking about a game.

8:27
Jeff Sullivan: I don’t know exactly why this is allowed but that isn’t, but, that isn’t

8:27
Paul Swydan: Oh, Josh!

8:28
Jeff Sullivan: How often does a player get an ovation from the home crowd after not making a catch?

8:28
Paul Swydan: Hit the heel of the glove. He’s so good he ran a hair past the ball. Rough.

8:28
Comment From Jamie
I am not sure Kruk talking at all is what we need

8:28
Paul Swydan: Alright, I suppose I should own up to this now – I like John Kruk. There, i said it.

8:29
Jeff Sullivan: I like when I remember that I can tune these people out

8:29
Jeff Sullivan: Then I don’t mind them

8:29
Paul Swydan: I feel like while he doesn’t know everything about everything, he does keep an open mind about stuff.

8:29
Comment From Adam
The TBS crew makes Kruk sound like Vin Scully

8:29
Paul Swydan: Also that.

8:29
Jeff Sullivan: Martin calling for the high fastball

8:30
Jeff Sullivan: Overthrown, but, welcome to baseball, adjusting to baseball

8:30
Comment From Cole
Do you see either of these teams being able to defeat the Nationals?

8:30
Jeff Sullivan: Sure, why not?

8:30
Comment From Guest
Good god, I actually measured the parallax on this camera angle and it’s about 30 degrees left of dead center.. so coming from further left than the LF plays

8:30
Paul Swydan: Yeah, I don’t think the Nationals are an invincible juggernaut.

8:31
Comment From Guest
Is Joe Flacco elite?

8:31
Jeff Sullivan: Best Flacco I know

8:31
Jeff Sullivan: Can’t believe Volquez walked a guy

8:31
Comment From Guest
I love how they switch to the camera angle that doesn’t suck on any close pitch

8:31
Paul Swydan: Yeah that’s weird.

8:32
Comment From semperty
Last year I cheered for the Pirates a lot. This year their fans have made me dislike them more than almost any team in the postseason. I also don’t want San Fran to win another title. Any chance the A’s can momentarily join the NL?

8:32
Jeff Sullivan: Fresh teams are really exciting and fun, the first time

8:32
Paul Swydan: Yup. Like how you all rooted for the Red Sox in 03 and 04 and then immediately turned on us. Not cool, you guys. Not cool.

8:32
Jeff Sullivan: What a disaster

8:32
Jeff Sullivan: YOU turned on *us*

8:33
Jeff Sullivan: Can’t believe Michael Morse is injured

8:33
Paul Swydan: Hey it wasn’t my idea to make Schilling the closer.

8:33
Comment From Gina
Paul, We need to get the jitters out lol

8:33
Comment From mg
So who is the least fresh playoff team in 2014? Tigers? Cards?

8:33
Jeff Sullivan: Cards

8:33
Paul Swydan: Cardinals. I’m so done with them.

8:33
Jeff Sullivan: Man the Cardinals are dull for a team that isn’t dull

8:34
Paul Swydan: And I just know we’re in for a week of small market vs big market. Just kill me now.

8:34
Jeff Sullivan: If it has to be the Cards, then I want Cards/Royals

8:34
Comment From Tucker
The Spurs of baseball–I root against both for no real reason other than “staleness.”

8:34
Paul Swydan: Yes, I said the same thing on Monday, Jeff. Cards/Royals would be fun.

8:35
Comment From Brad
Paul, why do you despise the cards so much?

8:35
Jeff Sullivan: Can’t believe Ishikawa made an out

8:35
Paul Swydan: I don’t despise them so much as they’re just super boring to me.

8:35
Comment From Fletch
Boy is Dan Schulman an upgrade over last night’s Ernie Johnson.

8:36
Paul Swydan: The silver lining is it’s a chance to read more Derrick Goold. And they do have Matt Holliday, who I will always love. But I still am just burnt out on the Cardinals.

8:36
Jeff Sullivan: Was re-watching the highlight of Moss’ second home run. Did Johnson even notice?

8:36
Comment From Park Chan hos Beard
how pissed do you think billy beane is at bob melvin?

8:37
Paul Swydan: Not very. I don’t think Melvin cost them the game.

8:37
Paul Swydan: And yeah, sorry, that wasn’t a high fastball on Moss’ second homer. I’m an idiot.

8:37
Comment From Billy
Agreed, its baffling to me that Ernie Johnson is the main play by play for any network.

8:38
Paul Swydan: Ernie knows basketball. Very well, actually. But TBS’ lack of willingness to find another lead man for baseball, in their 8th year of baseball coverage, is baffling.

8:38
Jeff Sullivan: Ernie Johnson is just so…boring. There’s no flavor there.

8:38
Jeff Sullivan: He doesn’t offend me with his stupidity or anything, he just doesn’t add any value.

8:38
Comment From Guest
My favorite Kruk highlight: http://youtu.be/9SH715tr6ek

8:39
Paul Swydan: Which is fine on Inside the NBA. He’s the straight man for Charles and Kenny. But they’re not doing baseball games with him, and Ron Darling and Cal Ripken are nowhere near as entertaining or insightful as Charles or Kenny are.

8:39
Comment From Skore
Are we seeing a reverse lefty strikezone? Ball inside called a strike, outside pitches called balls

8:39
Jeff Sullivan: It’s probably the angle

8:40
Comment From Anonymous
Martin’s pitch framing skills fooling the crowd.

8:40
Jeff Sullivan: Also, crowd wants strikes

8:40
Jeff Sullivan: Also, I’m behind in the queue

8:40
Comment From Jamie
Ripken seems to have almost nothing to say. I

8:40
Paul Swydan: Yup. He’s wasted there.

8:41
Comment From Steve
Which team has the better shot to make the world series if they win this game?

8:41
Jeff Sullivan: I feel like it’s the Pirates

8:41
Paul Swydan: If Pagan was healthy, I’d say Giants.

8:42
Jeff Sullivan: Walker takes the 0-and-2 pitch down the middle

8:42
Paul Swydan: It’s a bold strategy, Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for him.

8:42
Comment From Guest
Royals / A’s would have been the most fun WS, but rules, ya know?

8:42
Jeff Sullivan: Royals/Pirates would be awesome and weird

8:43
Paul Swydan: I want Angels/Dodgers most of all, I think. But I am on the record as predicting Angels/Nationals.

8:43
Comment From Tucker
Who are each of your least favorite teams (division rivals of your respective teams excluded)?

8:43
Jeff Sullivan: I think it’s the Red Sox

8:43
Paul Swydan: But Royals/Pirates would be cool too.

8:43
Paul Swydan: Rays for me. I’m sooooo over Joe Maddon it isn’t funny.

8:43
Jeff Sullivan: Panik! in the Outfield

8:44
Comment From Grand Admiral Braun
Panik! at the Frisco

8:44
Comment From Conor
How pissed is Adam Dunn?

8:44
Jeff Sullivan: I get the sense Adam Dunn doesn’t really get pissed off at anything

8:45
Comment From Not a SuckUp, I swear
For all the worrying Jeff and Dave were sharing last night. You guys (esp, you Jeff) killed it with the articles today.

8:45
Jeff Sullivan: I’m 99% sure that game will have been the best game to cover all playoffs, and it wasn’t even in October

8:45
Paul Swydan: Agreed. We should forcibly deprive them of sleep more often!

8:45
Comment From Alex
Some of it was in October

8:45
Jeff Sullivan: Not local time!

8:46
Paul Swydan: Come on Jeff, there’s only one REAL time zone in this country.

8:46
Jeff Sullivan: Hawaiian

8:46
Comment From Jaack
Playoff idea: You get to take 5 players from any team you beat for the rest of the playoffs.

8:47
Jeff Sullivan: That’s too many!

8:47
Paul Swydan: That’s pretty much what they do in the Caribbean Series, is it not?

8:47
Comment From Bryan
What has to happen for this Pittsburgh crowd to throw stuff on the field like the Atlanta crowd did a couple years ago?

8:47
Comment From semperty
Can someone please make a gif of Pence talking to Panik in the dugout? Like now.

8:47
Jeff Sullivan: McCutchen rips off his jersey, reveals a Giants uniform underneath, spits on a picture of Sidney Crosby

8:48
Paul Swydan: Probably not as much as you think. It is Pittsburgh, after all.

8:48
Comment From Morty
Show highlights of the PIT-TB game from Sunday

8:48
Comment From Skore
semperty, Brisbee is on it

8:49
Comment From Zach
Is there a website that has public access to shift stats? Pittsburgh has got me itching to dive into the numbers a bit.

8:49
Comment From Billy
Pedro Martinez should be a one man booth for TBS games. Ratings would skyrocket.

8:49
Paul Swydan: We have access to shift stats. But we’re not allowed to publish them all in data dumps like we do other stats.

8:49
Jeff Sullivan: he’d play poorly in the “speak American” segment of the country

8:50
Paul Swydan: I refuse to believe there are people out there capable of hating Pedro Martinez. You can’t make me!

8:50
Jeff Sullivan: Can anyone hate Pedro Martinez today? I don’t get it

8:50
Paul Swydan: He’s so adorable!

8:51
Comment From Guest
Zimmer

8:51
Jeff Sullivan: awkward

8:51
Paul Swydan: Zimmer actually didn’t. They talked all that out in short order.

8:51
Comment From Mike
What teams that are left, would match up for the most “sabermetric World Series”. In other words, which teams’ front offices are the most advance in terms of analytics.

8:51
Jeff Sullivan: Pirates vs. nobody

8:51
Jeff Sullivan: Angels I guess

8:51
Paul Swydan: Yeah the Angels do stuff.

8:52
Paul Swydan: Duquette is old school saber.

8:52
Jeff Sullivan: Weird to think that the Angels are the most sabermetric AL team left

8:52
Jeff Sullivan: What happened in the world

8:52
Comment From Billy
This is more like the game we expected last night.

8:52
Jeff Sullivan: And all it took is Edinson Volquez

8:52
Jeff Sullivan:
I found that Hunter Pence gif semperty requested.

8:53
Paul Swydan: Is it bad that I know the exact scene you’re referencing there?

8:53
Jeff Sullivan: 55 pitches thrown so far in this game

8:53
Jeff Sullivan: 42 strikes. Eventless

8:54
Comment From Are we having fun yet?
McCutchen’s hair makes me want to be a better man

8:55
Comment From Alex
that’s hunger games?

8:55
Jeff Sullivan: Boat, fire pit, beers and a baseball game. That’s perfect

8:55
Paul Swydan: Yes, it is. It’s the scene where Katniss is retelling to Haymitch how she shot the arrow at the apple in the pigs mouth during her evaluation.

8:55
Jeff Sullivan: what are you saying

8:56
Paul Swydan: don’t worry about it!

8:56
Jeff Sullivan: I only watch nature documentaries

8:56
Jeff Sullivan: and volcano webcams

8:56
Comment From Jaack
Remember that time that Dustin Hermanson was randomly the White Sox closer. That made more sense than whatever Paul is talking about.

8:56
Comment From Jon
Whoa whoa whoa… Woody harrelson is in hunger games

8:56
Paul Swydan: Yeah, he’s one of the leads!

8:56
Jeff Sullivan: Why does PNC Park look so hazy

8:57
Jeff Sullivan: Remember that time Dustin Hermanson had a chin starfish

8:57
Paul Swydan: “That’s what they get for building the ballpark on the ocean.” – Oil Can Boyd, after a game was postponed for fog in Cleveland

8:58
Comment From Ruki
Jeff, we can’t be sure that the station’s cameras are all just fogged over from poor maintanence, given the camera angles.

8:58
Jeff Sullivan: According to Buster Olney, Josh Harrison is always trying to get better

8:58
Jeff Sullivan: His massive breakthrough this season dates back to his time as a young child

8:58
Paul Swydan: I like Josh Harrison’s yellow batting gloves.

8:58
Comment From Mike
I dont know a lot about the Pirates pen. When should Hurdle yank Volquez, if the score remains 0-0?

8:58
Jeff Sullivan: Holdzkom!

8:59
Comment From Jamie
Hunger Games was surprisingly good

8:59
Paul Swydan: Thank you Jamie

8:59
Jeff Sullivan: Volquez should have 1-2 more innings maybe

8:59
Jeff Sullivan: Realistically 1

9:00
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Obligatory “Who would win a hunger games with MLB players” question

9:00
Jeff Sullivan: Puig

9:00
Jeff Sullivan: I don’t know what the hunger game rules are but it’s Puig

9:00
Paul Swydan: I’ll put in a vote for Holliday. It would probably be pretty good, since so many of those dudes like to hunt.

9:00
Comment From Jamie
Stanton

9:00
Comment From Glen
is milton bradley officially retired? he’d win

9:00
Comment From Denji
Somehow Hunter Pence

9:00
Comment From Jose
Hunter Pence

9:01
Comment From Brandon
I nominate Kyle Farnsworth for a sneaky win. That dude can Ground n Pound

9:01
Comment From Mike
Ya, but theyre used to hunting things that dont fight back…

9:01
Comment From Tucker
Bartolo Colon first to go?

9:01
Comment From Da Bear
Bartolo Colon would be hungry enough to eat all the other players, so he wins.

9:01
Comment From Rothbard
Mike Timlin. He always wore camo everything.

9:01
Comment From Jaack
Hunter Pence can use photosynthesis, so he would definitely not starve.

9:01
Comment From Guest
Ichiro would figure out a way to win

9:01
Comment From David
Jayson Werth looks like a moutain man

9:01
Comment From Glen
A-rod easy first to go

9:01
Comment From gump
isn’t there audience voting/help ala survivor? puig for sure

9:02
Comment From Brandon
Jose Altuve is pretty much Rue, right?

9:02
Paul Swydan: Ohhhhhhh, he is.

9:02
Paul Swydan: How mad is Jeff at me right now for bringing this up?

9:02
Comment From DC low and outside
I saw Jaysen Worth hanging out at the Cavemen exhibit at the Smithsonian Natural History Museum. He looked at home.

9:02
Jeff Sullivan: I’m just ignoring the chat at this point

9:03
Comment From Mike
Sandoval plays for who next year?

9:03
Paul Swydan: I say Red Sox.

9:03
Comment From Guest
Pedro says, “Boom goes the dynamite!” http://m.mlb.com/video/topi…

9:03
Paul Swydan: Sox need a lefty hitter for the middle of the lineup and a third baseman. Sandoval solves both, in the short term anyway.

9:04
Comment From Mike
What about least analytics friendly? Royals vs. Giants?

9:04
Jeff Sullivan: either Giants or Dodgers

9:04
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
This is late, but Chipper Jones would totally host the MLB hunger games on his hunting land

9:05
Paul Swydan: He probably already does.

9:05
Comment From Rothbard
Redsox better not sign Panda. I’d much rather seen Cecchini play there next year.

9:05
Paul Swydan: No thanks.

9:05
Jeff Sullivan: There just is not another hitter like Pablo Sandoval today

9:05
Comment From NickS
I’ve seen talk of Chase Headley as the “Middlebrooks is a bum” plan.

9:06
Paul Swydan: Headley disappears for half seasons at a time.

9:06
Paul Swydan: Here we go, first test for Hurdle.

9:06
Paul Swydan: How proactive is he going to be?

9:07
Jeff Sullivan: I’m sure they talked about this before the game

9:07
Jeff Sullivan: Bullpen needs to be stirring right now

9:07
Jeff Sullivan: According to Curt Schilling, don’t allow leadoff runners

9:08
Jeff Sullivan: I suppose in Volquez’s defense, the two hits so far have been on good pitches

9:08
Jeff Sullivan: But shit’s about to go down regardless

9:09
Comment From Mike
Somewhere, I’d like to think Barry Bonds is enjoying this game

9:09
Comment From Grand Admiral Braun
Does it bum you out when outstanding players (past or present) say something ridiculous or redundant like Schilling just did on Twitter? “Seems” like they should be better than that. But after all, a lot of them are just jocks.

9:10
Paul Swydan: No, it makes me happy because it means there is still room for people like Jeff and myself. If people like Schilling said smart stuff all the time, you guys wouldn’t need us!

9:10
Jeff Sullivan: Schilling has been a talking head for years. It’s what he knows now

9:10
Jeff Sullivan: Lots of former players have a lot of good things to say but not that many of them want to actually be in the media

9:10
Paul Swydan: Having said that, Schilling is a smart person. I would echo what Jeff just said.

9:10
Jeff Sullivan: So this is happening

9:11
Jeff Sullivan: Volquez’s first bad PA of the inning. Reliever has to come in as soon as possible though

9:11
Paul Swydan: Is Hurdle limping? He looked like he wasn’t moving around too well there.

9:11
Jeff Sullivan: Is that why he hasn’t come out to remove Volquez yet?

9:11
Jeff Sullivan: Nobody throwing in the bullpen. Welp

9:11
Comment From Giancarlo
Yeah, he’s got that hip replacement coming up

9:11
Jeff Sullivan: I mean, I don’t know what to say about this — the Pirates are smarter than I am. This is their idea.

9:11
Comment From David
He needs hip surgery.

9:11
Comment From James S
Hurdle has had a lingering hip issue for a month or so.

9:11
Comment From Mark from PGH
Hurdle fell down the steps and won’t take pain killers

9:12
Paul Swydan: Ah, that sucks. I like Clint. He used to wear the craziest Cosby sweaters to the Rockies’ holiday parties.

9:12
9:12
Comment From Mark from PGH
afraid of developing substance addiction since he is a recovered alcoholic

9:12
Paul Swydan: Yeah, that’s totally fair.

9:13
Jeff Sullivan: What how

9:13
Paul Swydan: WOW

9:13
Jeff Sullivan: how did that

9:13
Paul Swydan: The box score does not delineate between first row homers and 20th row homers.

9:13
Comment From Nuno Gloop
Crawsome

9:13
Comment From Tucker
NOW THE PHONE?!

9:13
Comment From Tucker
NOW?!

9:14
Comment From semperty
Clint Hurdle gets a reliever up AFTER the grand slam? Wow. Just wow.

9:14
Comment From Bob
I thought that was going to be soft fly out.

9:14
Jeff Sullivan: Here’s the thing: I bet even if they got the bullpen going, it wouldn’t have been enough time to get a reliever in for Crawford. But still, it’s Edinson Volquez

9:14
Jeff Sullivan: I was convinced Crawford had himself a moderate-depth sac fly

9:14
Paul Swydan: Agreed.

9:14
Paul Swydan: I agree with the first thing, not the second. It looked deep to me off the bat.

9:15
Comment From Brandon
Be honest: If you catch that home run, do you throw it back?

9:15
Jeff Sullivan: I don’t really care about a Brandon Crawford home run ball

9:15
Paul Swydan: No, people that throw back home run balls are morons.

9:15
Jeff Sullivan: I’d give it to someone

9:15
Comment From Guest
Lester, Scherzer, and Martin to the Cubs in 2015. How many games do they win?

9:15
Jeff Sullivan: 91

9:15
Jeff Sullivan: Worley throwing. Would’ve loved Volquez for 3 and Worley for 3 as a tandem starter thing

9:16
Jeff Sullivan: I know that sounds meaningless now

9:16
Paul Swydan: I’ll say 92 because life has Price is Right rules.

9:16
Paul Swydan: Crawford’s homer worth .198 WPA.

9:17
Paul Swydan: That inning started with the Pirates having 50% WE, and now it’s down to 10.1%.

9:17
Comment From hscer
Well, teams with 4-run leads *are* 0-1 this postseason 😛

9:17
Comment From Guest
Why is Mercer (.29 wOBA) batting second instead of Neil Walker (.356)

9:17
Jeff Sullivan: Mercer’s been super good against lefties

9:18
Comment From gump
is brooksbaseball allowed/able to post up to the minute pitche location data?

9:18
Jeff Sullivan: nope

9:18
Comment From DTSS
You warm someone up when there are two on and no out. Ready by the time the bases are loaded. Terrible managing.

9:18
Paul Swydan: We did make note of it at that time, this is true.

9:18
Jeff Sullivan: My blind spot is not knowing how little time it takes for a guy to get warm, especially if it’s a starter like Worley

9:18
Jeff Sullivan: Doubt he gets ready in the span of one walk

9:19
Paul Swydan: Everyone is different. Rafael Betancourt likes to throw a ton. He said he’d throw like 40-50 pitches because he likes throwing. Other guys used to tell me like 8 pitches and they’re good.

9:20
Jeff Sullivan: I bet Worley is not an 8-pitch kind of guy

9:20
Paul Swydan: No, I wouldn’t think so, especially because he’s not a reliever. But when I saw the rosters today, I also assumed that Worley was the break in case of extras emergency guy, not first man up.

9:21
Jeff Sullivan: No matter the crowd, no matter the stakes, there ain’t no crowd noise after a tie-breaking grand slam

9:21
Jeff Sullivan: My brilliant hindsight plan would’ve been Volquez 3, Worley 3, then normal bullpen usage

9:21
Comment From Guest
Bring worley in anyway. Volquez was melting down. However warm they could get worley would have been good enough

9:21
Paul Swydan: I don’t think this is true, unfortunately.

9:22
Comment From Guest
Why even expect Volquez to go more than 3 innings anyway? Shouldnt they have had someone warming up to start the 4th?

9:22
Jeff Sullivan: I think it’s clear by now the Pirates are big believers in Edinson Volquez

9:22
Comment From Joe
How much does Lester get this offseason? And how much does he leave on the table to for the Red Sox?

9:22
Jeff Sullivan: Consensus from last night was $150m/7

9:23
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
When will managers realize that a winner takes all game should be managed completely different than a regular post season game?

9:23
Comment From Will
Brandon Crawford: First postseason grand slam by a shortstop. Ever.

9:23
Jeff Sullivan: Ned Yost went to Yordano Ventura after James Shields threw like 68 pitches

9:23
Comment From Will
That was from Ckamka

9:23
Comment From Mike
So when should the Giants take out Bumgarner? Do they really have a good enough pen?

9:23
Jeff Sullivan: Bumgarner’s thrown like 40 pitches. He’s got a while

9:24
Paul Swydan: In September, they actually had the worst bullpen FIP- in baseball.

9:24
Comment From Jack Glasscocks Cup
Would WPA have been the same if the game was tied 5-5, or does the equation build in a higher run scoring environment, making WPA lower?

9:24
Jeff Sullivan: Run environment is a factor, but actual score is not a factor, aside from the margin

9:24
Comment From Henry
Jeff: why not just a setup guy for this inning then Worley next inning?

9:25
Jeff Sullivan: That would’ve been my fallback, absent a Worley-in-the-fourth programmed plan

9:25
Jeff Sullivan: In today’s baseball game, injured catcher tries to bunt on

9:26
Paul Swydan: McCutchen chuckling at West and Hurdle is my everything.

9:26
Jeff Sullivan: I don’t even mind the idea so much, it’s just weird

9:27
Comment From Evergreen Bowl Subdivision
is San Fran planning an orange-out if they advance?

9:28
Paul Swydan: I can’t say that I’ve spoken with the folks in the Giants’ marketing department lately, but I hope so!

9:28
Comment From Grand Admiral Braun
It’s the bottom of the 4th and you can hear a pin drop in Pittsburgh.

9:28
Jeff Sullivan: Every crowd is quiet when they’re losing early on

9:28
Comment From Jack
Why does that cubs squad with Lester and Max only win 91? Seems like they’d have no weaknesses at all

9:29
Jeff Sullivan: It takes a lot to be projected north of 91 wins

9:29
Paul Swydan: IIRC, the Nats weren’t projected at much higher than 91 this season. Jeff?

9:29
9:30
Jeff Sullivan: Dodgers led baseball at 91

9:30
Jeff Sullivan: Nats, Tigers, 89

9:30
Jeff Sullivan: Red Sox, 88…

9:30
Paul Swydan: Boom. Not even 91.

9:30
Paul Swydan: Dbacks 78, Rockies 79

9:31
Comment From Deelron
Only 4 teams won more then 91 games this year, and projections are conservative….

9:31
Comment From Rothbard
How many beers is too many beers in a night?

9:31
Jeff Sullivan: Are they real beers or common beers

9:31
Jeff Sullivan: I think people misunderstand how hard it is to win 90 games in a season

9:31
Paul Swydan: Also depends on whether or not you have to work in the morning. Or go to class, I guess.

9:32
Comment From Da Bear
In the wake of yesterday’s Soto injury on that goofy rundown, should the Pirates try to hit grounders to first for a 3-1 and then run as hard as they can to tackle Madison Bumgarner at the bag?

9:32
Jeff Sullivan: I want to go on record as saying again I don’t think having Soto would’ve made a huge difference. A lot of that running was on the pitchers

9:32
Comment From Jack
damn… Do you think Baez works out? Has he become significantly less shiny in your eyes?

9:33
Jeff Sullivan: We all always knew this could happen. He’s extraordinarily young

9:33
Comment From Evergreen Bowl Subdivision
I’m making a pizza dough. Should I use: a-no garlic, b-some garlic or c- ALL THE GARLIC?

9:33
Jeff Sullivan: some garlic

9:33
Jeff Sullivan: Volquez still pitching btw

9:33
Comment From semperty
Anyone else realize Lester had retired 13 straight Royals going into the 8th before he allowed 3 to score. It’s baseball. It’s October. It’s weird. Let’s just have some fun, here.

9:34
Comment From Skore
Downside of a bullpen game: less control of the running game

9:34
Jeff Sullivan: Giants stole 56 bases

9:34
Paul Swydan: “Joe, can you ask this camera guy to leave? I haven’t had a dip all game!”

9:35
Comment From zmiko
16 of those were Pagan

9:35
Jeff Sullivan: So much talk about which decisions are or aren’t right, and to me it seems to shift a lot of the responsibility from the players. I don’t like that. There are good decisions and bad decisions, but no one player decision that actually occurs swings the odds by more than a couple percentage points at most. Like, going to Ventura, not great? Sure, I can accept that, but he almost never allows a dinger there

9:35
Jeff Sullivan: Jeers to the managers when they make bad moves, but bad moves don’t cost games. Bad plays cost games

9:36
Comment From Jack Glasscocks Cup
If the running was on the pitchers yesterday, doesn’t that mean that Ned Yost actually had a gameplan? That’s sacrilege

9:36
Jeff Sullivan: The Royals have really good runners

9:36
Jeff Sullivan: Get used to good baserunners. Baseball is going to lean on them for more offense in the next 5-10 years

9:37
Comment From Evergreen Bowl Subdivision
Jeff, this Saturday is one of the NW’s best beer festivals: Yakima Fresh Hop

9:37
Jeff Sullivan: Missed the Hood River fresh hop, and will miss the Yakima fresh hop

9:37
Comment From hscer
Ha. I just thought Jim leyland was Don Sutherland.

9:37
Comment From David
Are people really more successful stealing on relievers? Any link for that?

9:37
Jeff Sullivan: Relievers are generally inferior at holding

9:37
Paul Swydan: That’d be fun to look at though.

9:38
9:38
Jeff Sullivan: 71% against starters this year, 77% against relievers

9:38
Jeff Sullivan: In higher-leverage situations you’ll probably tend to have only better baserunners trying, but still, there’s your gap

9:39
Comment From semperty
Ventura had thrown 200 pitches over the last 7 days – 73 two days before he threw out of the bullpen. The “he almost never” goes out the window when you’re talking about a kid that’s gassed.

9:39
Jeff Sullivan: Yost would’ve known if he were gassed

9:39
Comment From Andrew McCutchen
What are the odds that we can pull a Royals and get back into this game?

9:39
Paul Swydan: Not high unless you start working the pitch count. Bumgarner still under 50 pitches.

9:40
Jeff Sullivan: 33% chance the Pirates make this at least anxious

9:40
Comment From Guest
Royals runners v. Yadier Molina, who wins?

9:40
Jeff Sullivan: which pitchers?

9:40
Comment From Aaron
Except managerial decisions seem like some of the few things you actually have control over in terms of swinging the probability of winning. It just requires the right decision.

9:41
Jeff Sullivan: Sure, but you still have such low probability swings. Analysis has to start with what happens on the field, I feel like

9:41
Jeff Sullivan: Or maybe I just don’t like reading second-guessing

9:41
Jeff Sullivan: it feels so sabermetric, 12 years ago

9:42
Comment From Ruki
Least favorite commercial so far this playoff game?

9:42
Jeff Sullivan: Viagra eye contact

9:42
Comment From semperty
Yost is the same manager that was “frustrated” Crow gave up a grand slam because they were “one out away from Herrera”. I don’t give him the benefit of the doubt on a lot of things – especially not bullpen management.

9:42
Paul Swydan: It certainly is off-putting to have so much disagreement on Twitter about this decision or that decision, but sometimes I can’t help but join the fray.

9:42
Jeff Sullivan: I think there’s a difference between not knowing great roles and not knowing who does and doesn’t have the energy to pitch. That second one is pretty basic

9:43
Comment From semperty
Do we think Bochy repeats Melvin/Yost’s mistakes with his starter? Or does he have a quicker hook?

9:43
Paul Swydan: Bumgarner has worked deep enough into the game that Bochy will have the luxury of pulling him quickly now.

9:43
Comment From David
Looks like runners take off more against relievers too…so I’d doubt there’s a selection problem driving the difference.

9:43
Jeff Sullivan: Relievers are super one-dimensional

9:44
Comment From Evergreen Bowl Subdivision
Jeff, if Nike(whoever) said their intention was to build an awesome ballpark in Portland with maybe 35-40k seats and intended to bring a team to town, how do you think it would do?

9:44
Jeff Sullivan: It would do ok. People would show up — we support our sports teams. But I don’t think Portland is dying for a baseball team

9:45
Comment From Mike
It amazes me how all the talk is about Ned Yost, where Bob Melvin should get wayyyy more scrutiny. Leaving Lester in that long was laughably bad.

9:45
Jeff Sullivan: Yost made the more unusual decision, Melvin made the more wrong decision

9:45
Comment From Guest
Cards/Royals 4 games this year. 1 SB by the Royals in 37 innings.

9:47
Comment From Mike
I can’t wait to see Mike Trout in the playoffs. Exciting times

9:47
Jeff Sullivan: does Mila Kunis work at Jim Beam

9:48
Jeff Sullivan: I feel like that is a bummer

9:48
Jeff Sullivan: this is Kutcher’s fault

9:48
Jeff Sullivan: I think that’s the most recent celebrity couple I know about

9:48
Paul Swydan: all i know is i’m thinking about trying jim beam now

9:49
Jeff Sullivan: I don’t want a woman with access to a brand

9:49
Comment From James S
You’ve never tried Jim Beam?! Were you never a high school senior man?

9:49
Comment From Ryan
So which park/fan base provides the biggest home field advantage in baseball?

9:49
Paul Swydan: I actually didn’t drink much in high school. Like, at all, basically. I’m an Eagle scout. I wasn’t corrupted until college.

9:49
Jeff Sullivan: the Rockies have either baseball’s biggest home-field advantage or road-field disadvantage

9:50
Paul Swydan: or both

9:50
Comment From semperty
Melvin’s decision was a baseball norm – something people won’t question. Yost went against the norm and (predictably) lost. Managers that don’t break the norm don’t get burned by the media when it doesn’t pan out.

9:50
Jeff Sullivan: just like 4th downs

9:50
Comment From Joe
Idk what high school you went to, but around here they drink cheap beer like Natty Ice.

9:50
Comment From Joe
I think managerial mistakes get more grief because they’re easier to avoid. There aren’t as many variables as performance itself. The perception is that there are a lot more guys walking the Earth who can do vs. play the game. So with all the money and resources teams expend in order to put themselves in the best positions to succeed, forgetting the game management is maddening.

9:51
Jeff Sullivan: Yeah, I get that part. I think it just gets carried away sometimes. People are so dedicated to finding the mistakes they lose sight of the actual significance of them.

9:51
Paul Swydan: Yes, Joe Sheehan likes to derisively refer to them as middle managers.

9:51
Jeff Sullivan: Volquez is still pitching btw

9:51
Jeff Sullivan: there we go

9:51
Jeff Sullivan: so there’s a walk that didn’t need to happen

9:51
Paul Swydan: The lede for every pittsburgh writer will say “he was good except for one inning”

9:52
Jeff Sullivan: Literally, a walk that didn’t need to happen, for Hurdle. Could’ve spared himself two sorts of pain by starting the inning with someone else

9:52
Comment From Tim
If you needed one person to steal a base for you in a tie game in the bottom of the 9th, who would you choose? Hamilton? Dyson? Gordon? Other?

9:52
Paul Swydan: Davey Roberts, duh.

9:53
Jeff Sullivan: I honestly think it might be Dyson

9:53
Jeff Sullivan: Hamilton in a couple years

9:53
Paul Swydan: Yeah in todays game, I’d go Dyson. Quintin Berry as a darkhorse.

9:53
Jeff Sullivan: Terrance Gore? I don’t know anything about him

9:54
Comment From elb
Anyone else notice that around 10 pm Pacific last night mlb.com briefly had a game recap posted that had the Royals losing in 12?

9:54
Jeff Sullivan: Someone did screenshot that!

9:54
Jeff Sullivan: STOP READING TWEETS

9:55
Jeff Sullivan: at least stop reading stupid pointless tweets

9:55
Paul Swydan: No, what! These things happen sometimes. There is a lot of pressure to have things live the second the game ends.

9:55
Comment From Ruki
To be fair, the 4th down thing is a bit overstated (A fair amount of the analysis fails to take into account a lot of things like field position, strength of team’s offense vs. defense, time left/score etc)

9:55
Paul Swydan: Having done that job for two years, I can say it’s no picnic.

9:55
Jeff Sullivan: Football analysis finally getting interesting as the game of football approaches a slow death

9:56
Jeff Sullivan: 5-0…

9:56
Paul Swydan: Jeff’s 7-2 prediction is looking better every minute.

9:56
Jeff Sullivan: My first prediction was 7-2 SF, my second prediction was Volquez would be the surprising star of the game. 50% rounds up to 100%

9:56
Comment From Evergreen Bowl Subdivision
If Jeff, Paul and Dave C walked into a bar… would anyone have a drink?

9:57
Jeff Sullivan: several of them

9:57
Paul Swydan: At least two of us!

9:57
Comment From Ruki
“The game of football approaches a slow death” Since when?

9:57
Jeff Sullivan: my dreams

9:57
Paul Swydan: Some day we’re going to get Cameron hammered, and it will be glorious.

9:57
Comment From Anonymous
Pirates fans are completely disoriented: https://twitter.com/stoolpr…

9:58
Jeff Sullivan: I can’t even get Cameron to drink hot tea

9:58
Paul Swydan: Participation in Pee Wee football was down like 40% last year. By 2025 or so, the only people playing football will be in the deep south.

9:59
Comment From Grand Admiral Braun
Obvious that Pittsburgh must upgrade at first base. How about an Aramis Ramirez acquistion and position switch?

9:59
Paul Swydan: I don’t hate it.

9:59
Comment From Tim
If you were the Cardinals, would you consider conceding game one by pitching, say, Lackey against Kershaw, and then going with Wain-o against Greinke?

9:59
Jeff Sullivan: Don’t think there’s a benefit to that

10:00
Paul Swydan: That’s literally the topic of tomorrow’s Hardball Times piece.

10:00
Jeff Sullivan: Ramirez is about to cost $14 million. Too much for the Pirates

10:00
Comment From Rated Rookie
Any game was going to be a bit of a letdown after last night, but this game would be a let down even if it was the only played in a week.

10:01
Jeff Sullivan: felt inevitable in this way. but I suppose yesterday’s game looked like maybe a foregone conclusion in the 7th

10:01
Comment From Xolo
Do the Pirates wildly overspend on Martin if they lose here tonight?

10:01
Paul Swydan: I would hope that the Pirates’ offseason plan does not hinge on this game at all.

10:02
Comment From Skore
Which has a greater weight, a pitcher’s platoon split or a hitters?

10:02
Jeff Sullivan: Pitcher I believe but they both count

10:02
Comment From David
In the extreme it would have to make sense though, right. If Kershaw was guaranteed to win, then you certainly would want to…the question is where the break-even is…

10:02
Comment From Park Chan hos Beard
how quickly people forget that kershaw gave up like 7 runs in the elimination game last year

10:03
Comment From AJT
Did anyone think the Pirates should not have started Volquez?

10:03
Comment From Cashmere Taco
Am I weird for not wanting Angels in World Series because I think their uniforms are ugly?

10:03
Jeff Sullivan: The good news is they’re set up fairly well to be competitive for a while

10:03
Jeff Sullivan: There was a Pirates question that might not have been accepted into the stream

10:03
Jeff Sullivan: That was a response to it

10:03
Paul Swydan: That’s a weird reason Cashmere Taco, but at least you have a reason!

10:04
Comment From Ryan
Re: Pirates off-season plans—are the Pirates at the point where they can’t just be content with contending for a playoff spot? That is, do they need to try to make a deep playoff run?

10:04
Jeff Sullivan: there we go

10:04
Comment From Sadwick
Taco, I’ve heard much worse arguments for rooting against a team.

10:04
Comment From Jaack
Cashmere Taco is not weird. My World Series preference is always based on the best Unis.

10:04
Paul Swydan: Maybe you’re both weird.

10:04
Jeff Sullivan: boy did this slow down

10:04
Jeff Sullivan: hold the fort real quick Swydan, I’m beering

10:05
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
Best Unis in the playoffs poll!

10:05
Paul Swydan: My vote is for the team that wears their alternate unis the least.

10:05
Paul Swydan: For instance, when the Cardinals wear those stupid blue hats I just want to punch things.

10:06
Comment From A
Dodgers unis

10:06
Comment From Park Chan hos Beard
pirates/a’s for the best unis world series 🙁

10:06
Comment From Guest
Best unis. Cardinals, always. (Their alternate is excellent as well.)

10:06
Comment From semperty
WHAT?! Royals alt. units are sick.

10:06
Comment From Rated Rookie
The Cardinals alternate uni is, admittedly, regrettably, beautiful.

10:06
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
Paul, complaining about blue hats is not a poll

10:06
Jeff Sullivan: The Royals’ alts are majestic

10:06
Paul Swydan: Oh you want me to actually make a poll. Sorry. Well which teams do I leave off the poll? It only fits six teams….

10:07
Comment From Matt
Orioles Black and Orange is awesome

10:07
Paul Swydan: Yeah I like the O’s unis.

10:07
Comment From Jaack
O’s-Giants in San Francisco (SF home is vastly superior to road, O’s are awesome, and color cordination)

10:07
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
The Cardinals Uni is hideous

10:07
Comment From Doctor Hoist
Cardinals home jerseys are outstanding

10:07
Comment From Wicomico Pinstripes
Jeff, when you beer, what type of beer do you beer?

10:07
Jeff Sullivan: Jared Hughes, the man with the impossible O-Swing%s

10:07
Paul Swydan: Yeah, Jeff, what are you drinking? I am drinking an Allagash White, thanks for asking me too (sobs in corner).

10:07
Jeff Sullivan: Right now Worthy Easy Day Kolsch because summer never ends

10:08
Comment From Kalso
Because physics, it seems like it’s probably much harder to command a pitch vertically than horizontally. It sounds just as easy to say, pitch this guy high, that guy low, as it does to say, pitch him inside or outside, but is it?

10:08
Jeff Sullivan: My guess is pitchers miss horizontally about as often as they miss vertically

10:08
Jeff Sullivan: But I honestly don’t know, just anecdotal

10:09
Jeff Sullivan: Wonder about the release point adjustments necessary

10:09
Paul Swydan: I think it’s more noticeable when pitchers miss vertically, because we see the catcher have to move to block the ball, etc.

10:09
Comment From Evergreen Bowl Subdivision
Kolsch and Belgian White? Need some pilsner to go with that???

10:10
Paul Swydan: Sure, you have the next round, I think.

10:10
Jeff Sullivan: Not going to start with dark beers at 7pm when I still need to think today for a few hours

10:10
Jeff Sullivan: Let’s all split this Speedway Stout after the world series

10:10
Comment From Evergreen Bowl Subdivision
did anyone ever get a DQ sundae back in the 80’s that were served in mini plastic MLB helmets?

10:11
Paul Swydan: I never got DQ sundaes like that, but when I took my son to his first game at Fenway in early September, I absolutely got him soft serve in a helmet.

10:11
Jeff Sullivan: did he wear the helmet home in the car like a responsible passenger

10:12
Paul Swydan: He didn’t wear it, but we did bring it home!

10:12
Comment From James S
Soft serve in a helmet is more American than apple pie.

10:12
Jeff Sullivan: he’ll love that shit for the rest of his life

10:12
Comment From Sadwick
I’m currently on a Caldera kick because their Pilot Rock Porter is amazing.

10:12
Jeff Sullivan: #Oregon

10:12
Comment From Evergreen Bowl Subdivision
it wasn’t pink was it?

10:12
Paul Swydan: No it wasn’t pink, you jerk.

10:13
Comment From yuni4life
Would it be possible to someday have a SportVU type technology that tracks pitch framing (or could be used to track the previous question by tracking where a catcher sets up and receives)

10:13
Jeff Sullivan: COMMANDf/x already exists and from what I’ve heard it’s not very useful

10:14
Jeff Sullivan: I’ve now heard Freak Nasty’s Da Dip twice in three days after not hearing it once for about nine years

10:14
Paul Swydan: So what you’re saying is that it’s been a good three days?

10:15
Jeff Sullivan: 69 Boyz? wait who did this

10:15
Jeff Sullivan: Freak Nasty, yeah. yes, good three days

10:16
Paul Swydan: It feels like the 8th inning, but it’s only the 6th. Show us something, Pirates!

10:16
Jeff Sullivan: ugh this is dull

10:16
Paul Swydan: That was not what I had in mind, Jordy Mercer.

10:16
Jeff Sullivan: HIT A DINGER

10:16
Comment From Sadwick
Pilsners are not dark…..

10:16
Jeff Sullivan: I misunderstood the point of the comment

10:17
Paul Swydan: Help us Obi-Wan McCutchy, you’re our only hope.

10:17
Comment From Guest
is it more difficult to come back from the same run differential if you haven’t scored (i,.e. is it tougher to come back from 5-0 than it is from say 9-4)? Just wondering, since the announcers are kind of referring tolast ights

10:17
Jeff Sullivan: One of those implies a better run environment. My guess is there’s a small advantage to already having scored

10:17
Jeff Sullivan: Psychology

10:17
Paul Swydan: Agreed. I think I’ve heard this mentioned before.

10:17
Jeff Sullivan: Well this is a bust of a game. You can tell which one of these teams stayed up to watch the Royals and A’s, and which team rested

10:18
Comment From Danny
If its OK to say “shit” in this chat, is it alright if we drop f bombs?

10:18
Jeff Sullivan: We can usually sneak one or two by the censors

10:18
Comment From Rated Rookie
Joe West looks like a thumb with a face on it.

10:19
Jeff Sullivan: Not as much as Jorge Posada

10:19
Comment From Wicomico Pinstripes
Hypothetically, if the worst team in the league( by W-L record) were to play in the WC game, what are the chances they win? What about the WS?

10:19
Paul Swydan: Jorge Posada literally looks like a rat.

10:19
Jeff Sullivan: Something like 30-35% in the WC game, maybe 20-25% in the WS

10:20
Comment From Jaack
Here is an almost relevant question: More Likely to end up in the HoF Posey or McCutchen?

10:20
Jeff Sullivan: McCutchen

10:20
Comment From Nick
http://cdn2.tauntr.com/site… lols

10:20
Paul Swydan: YES!

10:20
Paul Swydan: Agreed on McCutchen vs Posey

10:20
Jeff Sullivan: get those kids off the bridge!

10:21
Jeff Sullivan: McCutchen has a statistical head start, and Posey isn’t far away from leaving his premium position

10:21
Comment From Deelron
There’s so little happening that I actually am listening to what the announcers say. Please help.

10:21
Jeff Sullivan: Same problem 🙁

10:21
Comment From Evergreen Bowl Subdivision
I once heckled “Jim West” for 6 innings from behind 3rd base dugout. When I finally got it right, he turned and winked

10:22
Paul Swydan: That’s hilarious.

10:22
Comment From Guest
As a Giants fan I find this game great to watch!

10:22
Paul Swydan: I once heckled Coco Crisp so badly that he turned around to look at me right before a single was hit in front of him. But then later in the game, he robbed a homer over the bullpen wall and pointed at me as he ran back to the dugout. Game, set, match for Coco.

10:22
Jeff Sullivan: I felt the same way about the last Super Bowl

10:23
Jeff Sullivan: Show me a 7, San Francisco

10:23
Comment From Jaack
If this chat is PG 13, we get exactly one f-bomb. The question is who gets it.

10:23
Jeff Sullivan: fuck if I know

10:24
Comment From Rated Rookie
Would this game seem more exciting if it was in San Francisco? Or if the Pirates were winning? A silent, shrouded in black crowd is a bit funereal.

10:24
Paul Swydan: Yeah, this Pirates crowd needs to show some spirit.

10:24
Jeff Sullivan: Silent crowds are a total bummer

10:24
Jeff Sullivan: I agree with Paul, but I also know it’s impossible to muster anything in a game like this

10:24
Jeff Sullivan: at least until it’s the end and you realize you might as well lose your voice

10:25
Comment From David
As a Nats fan, I think I’d rather face the Giants, with MadBum only getting to go at most once, than the Pirates short only Volquez. Agreed?

10:25
Paul Swydan: Right. It won’t take much to get them back in it though. Two baserunners, tops.

10:25
Jeff Sullivan: Agreed

10:25
Paul Swydan: In the same inning, I mean.

10:25
Jeff Sullivan: I think they need to score

10:25
Jeff Sullivan: I think they need a run and two guys on

10:26
Jeff Sullivan: There’s Sandoval hitting a fly ball exactly where Kruk couldn’t believe the left fielder was shifted

10:26
Jeff Sullivan: ugh this game

10:27
Paul Swydan: It’s not helping that Hurdle has put in two of his lesser relievers.

10:27
Paul Swydan: They’re making it worse instead of holding the fort.

10:27
Comment From Guest
More likely HoF, Trout or Kershaw?

10:27
Jeff Sullivan: Kershaw? almost 50/50 for me. Kershaw has a big head start, but is a pitcher

10:28
Paul Swydan: I want to say Kershaw, but he’s a pitcher.

10:28
Paul Swydan: Damnit Jeff.

10:28
Jeff Sullivan: I get to cheat because I submitted the question

10:28
Comment From Alex
It seems as if the AL game is inherently more exciting than the NL game. Agree?

10:28
Jeff Sullivan: Disagree. Sometimes in the NL Tony La Russa calls the bullpen and gets the wrong reliever

10:28
Paul Swydan: Hahahaha.

10:28
Jeff Sullivan: There’s the 7. Now for 2 garbage-time Pirates runs

10:29
Comment From Lyle
Kershaw’s soon to be 3 cy youngs and maybe MVP make it hard to not pick him over Trout

10:30
Jeff Sullivan: Bobby LaFromboise, one-game playoff

10:31
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
Jeff, you constantly complain about football but now you’re bragging about the Seahawks. C’mon

10:31
Jeff Sullivan: it’s an awful game with a team I like. humans are complicated!

10:31
Comment From Guest
Pablo is a different player in October per ESPN Radio.

10:32
Jeff Sullivan: what would they have said if this game had been yesterday

10:32
Comment From Jaack
Crowd should start chanting ‘Cueto.’

10:32
Comment From Anus McGrundleBurger
What’s the narrative tonight? MadBum + PitBums?

10:32
Jeff Sullivan: Straight-up Bumgarner dominance, plus some Cole/Volquez second-guessing

10:32
Comment From Nuno Gloop
Favorite heckle was to Kevin Mitchell at Candlestick. I was 11; when I got it right he turned to me (and my friend) and said, “Eat fuck.”

10:32
Paul Swydan: And Crawford playing the role of Mark Bellhorn.

10:33
Comment From Joshua
Why doesn’t Hurdle want to use his good relievers? I mean, Hughes and LFB? Really?

10:33
Paul Swydan: I’m not sure. It seems pretty silly, but what can you do.

10:33
Comment From Zach
JABO powered broadcast coming to Foxsports 1 for the NLCS

10:33
Jeff Sullivan: I honestly have no idea where Fox Sports 1 is on my cable package

10:34
Jeff Sullivan: have never looked at it even once I don’t think

10:34
Paul Swydan: They moved the channel on my cable recently, but I know I get it.

10:34
Comment From Anus McGrundleBurger
What’s the narrative tonight? MadBum + PitBums?

10:34
Comment From Anus McGrundleBurger
What’s the narrative tonight? MadBum + PitBums?

10:34
Comment From hscer
Is it just me or is there a correlation between Twitter action on a game and fan involvement in the park? I don’t mean a causation, mind you

10:34
Jeff Sullivan: people are more active when things are more active

10:34
Jeff Sullivan:
Hey Paul, I found a photo of you heckling Coco.

10:34
Paul Swydan: He wishes he looked as good as me.

10:35
Jeff Sullivan: You’re a lot less menacing

10:35
Comment From Alex
Hey, Jeff you mentioned that you thought the Giants are one of the least analytically oriented teams in baseball. While they definitely don’t talk to the public a lot about, they clearly don’t make a lot of terrible decisions. Are they secretly RBI-lovers or something?

10:35
Jeff Sullivan: I was referring to them just among the teams in the playoffs. Pirates are super analytical, Cardinals too, Nationals are getting there

10:36
Comment From Sam
Hurdle saving his good relievers for Game 2

10:36
Comment From Keeper
At least you guys will get a decent night’s sleep

10:36
Jeff Sullivan: I feel like I started an hour ago

10:36
Comment From C-Mesc
If the Giants team were replaced en masse at this exact moment with the team of the best high school pitcher in America that had a decent defense, what would their win% be? About 32%

10:36
Paul Swydan: I probably still won’t get to bed before midnight. I have laundry to do, and I have touch up tomorrow’s THT post. And something else will happen, like this game dragging on only for it to finish 7-2 like Jeff said.

10:37
Jeff Sullivan: Ooh! Let’s say 35-40%

10:37
Jeff Sullivan: I don’t even know what sleep before midnight is

10:37
Jeff Sullivan: I think I did that when I was 6

10:37
Comment From Guest
Hey Paul didn’t you say last year that the Giants should probably rebuild?

10:38
Paul Swydan: Did I? Your guess is as good as mine

10:38
Comment From hscer
So I guess Jeff likes doing these, but it sounds like Dave would have preferred blogging this game than yesterday’s.

10:38
Paul Swydan: I DID say that the Giants wouldn’t win the 2012 World Series. That didn’t work out so well for me.

10:38
Jeff Sullivan: Dave’s time is three hours later than mine, and he still had a Fox post to write afterward

10:38
Jeff Sullivan: Five hours is shitty under those circumstances

10:39
Comment From Guest
Kershaw has 36 WAR. Trout has 29. Trout 3.5 years younger.

10:39
Jeff Sullivan: They’ll care about Kershaw’s ERA more than his FIP

10:39
Comment From Sadwick
I feel like Cistulli would easily be the best heckler of the fangraph writers. He wouldn’t offend anyone, but he would confuse them horribly.

10:39
Jeff Sullivan: Imagining Eno’s voice with Cistulli’s words

10:39
Paul Swydan: I would tend to agree with this sentiment. Wiers is a pretty good heckler too.

10:40
Comment From Mark from PGH
“Life is a frozen cauldron of disappointment” -Cistulli

10:40
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
I hate that Trout is on the Angles. I want to watch him in the playoffs, but it’s really hard to root for the Angels over anyone except the Yanks/Sawks

10:40
Jeff Sullivan: Frozen cauldron, interesting. You usually only ever imagine cauldrons above flame

10:40
Paul Swydan: When did Kurt Angle get a baseball team?

10:40
Jeff Sullivan: Well that was spectacular

10:41
Jeff Sullivan: Remember when that commenter was asking what it would take for Pirates fans to litter the field

10:41
Comment From Guest
Paul: “San Francisco — The Giants should probably be rebuilding as well, but with Tim Lincecum, Barry Zito, Hunter Pence, Ryan Vogelsong and Javier Lopez potentially coming off the books this winter, San Fran may have some cash with which to play.” http://www.fangraphs.com/bl…

10:42
Comment From James S
Keep in mind there would be little to no scouting on the high schoolers.

10:42
Paul Swydan: There you have it. In my defense, I didn’t think the Giants would be so aggressive in keeping Lincecum, Pence and getting Hudson.

10:42
Jeff Sullivan: Fastball

10:42
Jeff Sullivan: A hit! Now for eight more of them please!

10:42
Comment From Rated Rookie
Since there has not been anything as compelling as Jarrod Dyson’s stolen base, what might you (two) write about this game?

10:43
Jeff Sullivan: Honestly no idea right now. Default is Bumgarner. Too easy but there’s not a lot else

10:43
Paul Swydan: If you write something about Crawford, he might tweet about it again…

10:43
Comment From Doctor Hoist
Wouldn’t Kiley McDaniel be a great heckler?

10:44
Paul Swydan: That’s true. I keep forgetting that Kiley is a person.

10:44
Comment From Spence
Timely WAR-related question: What is it about how WAR is calculated that’s held Bumgarner under 4 WAR the past two seasons? His peripherals are great, decent groundball percentage, HR rate seems normal, etc. Is it just a function of his home park?

10:44
Jeff Sullivan: Presumably home park and league. AT&T is super pitcher-friendly

10:44
Jeff Sullivan: God, this game

10:45
Comment From Sadwick
We need a kickstarted to buy adjoining seats for Eno and Carson to make that happen. Cistulli feed the lines and Sarris delivers them.

10:45
Paul Swydan: Perhaps something about Brandon Belt, and how the Giants are a different offense with a healthy Belt?

10:45
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Is there any rational reason to leave Bumgarner in?

10:45
Jeff Sullivan: Barely breaking a sweat, cruising pitches aren’t stressful pitches

10:46
Comment From Wicomico Pinstripes
Salaries aside. Who would you rather have for the next ten years? Harper or Rendon? Harper has the upside but Rendon has the health(right now) and may be the better all around player. Although, Rendon will be 34 in ten years and Harper will only be 31.

10:46
Jeff Sullivan: Harper

10:46
Comment From Matt G
Better heckler: Dave C or Liberty?

10:46
Jeff Sullivan: Liberty would be obnoxious

10:46
Comment From Alex
But Bumgarner is great on the road.

10:46
Jeff Sullivan: Not how park adjustments work

10:46
Comment From Matt G
SF win expectancy just hit 100%

10:47
Comment From Guest
What’s Harper’s peak gonna look like?

10:47
Jeff Sullivan: MVP season

10:47
Comment From Nick
Looking ahead to potential Kershaw-Trout WS at bats, is there any precedent for best hitter vs. best pitcher in a World Series?

10:47
Paul Swydan: Oh I’m sure there is from back in the day.

10:48
Comment From Gabes
What’s Dayan Viciedo’s peak gonna look like?

10:48
Jeff Sullivan: a WAR

10:48
Comment From Doctor Hoist
Holdzy!!!

10:48
Comment From Byron
harper Stanton or puig?

10:49
Paul Swydan: i want to say puig but thats probably not the right answer

10:49
Jeff Sullivan: I still prefer Harper because he’s 22 in a couple weeks

10:50
Jeff Sullivan: Bumgarner audibly upset with himself after striking out at 97mph heat in 7-0 game

10:50
Comment From semperty
Do you guys adjust individual games, or just do an overall adjustment to the home park?

10:50
Jeff Sullivan: Overall

10:50
Comment From Jaack
What is Mount Ontake’s peak gonna look like?

10:50
Jeff Sullivan: steam

10:51
Comment From Guest
Last year WC game. http://youtu.be/KjJcUENuOyc…

10:51
Paul Swydan: I’m still watching the ad.

10:52
Comment From Gabes
If this story about Miggy refusing to take a playoff bonus is true, the Union’s going to come down on him pretty hard, right?

10:52
Jeff Sullivan: so weird http://espn.go.com/mlb/stor…

10:52
Jeff Sullivan: I mean, the money’s nothing to him, but, so weird

10:52
Comment From Park Chan hos Beard
if the dodgers make the WS, would it be worth it to move greinke’s start to game three to get his bat in the lineup?

10:53
Jeff Sullivan: actually…

10:53
Jeff Sullivan: Ehh, probably not

10:53
Jeff Sullivan: But we’ll talk about that, maybe!

10:53
Comment From Sadwick
To Pittsburgh’s credit, those seats are still full.

10:53
Paul Swydan: On the bonuses, I don’t think the Union can make a beef. Players split those up however the hell they want.

10:54
Paul Swydan: A lot of non-players end up getting bonuses, like clubhouse attendants and people like that.

10:54
Comment From john
Because playoff bonuses were brought up, we can’t miss a opportunity to remember the greatness of Rickey Henderson. http://www.fangraphs.com/no…

10:55
Paul Swydan: Yeah, and it does.

10:56
Jeff Sullivan: And now I can’t even look forward to having an accurate score prediction

10:56
Paul Swydan: Alright, this game is bumming me out.

10:57
Comment From Rated Rookie
What adjustments does Yordano Ventura need to make to “take the next step”? Throw more CBs?

10:57
Jeff Sullivan: The answer is always release point consistency

10:57
Jeff Sullivan: Everything comes out of that

10:57
Comment From Doctor Hoist
The seats behind home plate sure aren’t full

10:58
Paul Swydan: Can’t say I blame them.

10:58
Comment From Evan
Re: bonuses, why wouldn’t you just take the money and donate it to a damn charity? Same with Phil Hughes and his IP bonus from last week.

10:58
Jeff Sullivan: I guess this way it gets spread around to other people? If Miggy cares about charity he’s already donating millions of dollars

10:59
Comment From Da Bear
3 years and 3 days ago, the Rays trailed the Yankees 7-0 going to the bottom of the 8th, with a spot in the division series potentially on the line. Looks like SF just got a big insurance run, knowing what happened back then.

10:59
Jeff Sullivan: Not gonna lie, I forgot that game was 7-0

10:59
Jeff Sullivan: oh, how we talked about Cory Wade

11:00
Comment From Da Bear
What would it take to have a successful pitcher who used the eephus as his primary pitch?

11:00
Jeff Sullivan: Wind

11:00
Comment From Ruki
Give me a reason to keep watching this game. Please.

11:00
Jeff Sullivan: not that much longer, there’s some chance of a miracle, and what else do you have to do?

11:01
Comment From Hank
Re: the playoff money – it just gets reallocated via shares. It simply means more money to other players and whatever organizational folks the players vote for shares or partial shares on

11:01
Paul Swydan: See if Bumgarner can complete the shutout?

11:01
Comment From AJT
Sleep?

11:01
Jeff Sullivan: I forgot there are people not in my time zone

11:01
Comment From Ruki
I haven’t eaten anything except 4 pieces of toast all day. I could make some food.

11:01
Jeff Sullivan: You should do that then with the game in the background just in case

11:02
Comment From AJT
What’s the total number of people in this chat? Close to yesterdays?

11:02
Jeff Sullivan: Not close, this game blows

11:02
Comment From Hirsutebuttshavencoont
What the hell were those fans doing giving Pence that free out. Get that umbrella in there lady.

11:02
Comment From Evergreen Bowl Subdivision
it begins!

11:02
Jeff Sullivan: Crawford the goat!

11:03
Comment From Guest
Paul, you should go to the BU vs. BC hockey games so we can drink too much beer and root against BC

11:03
Paul Swydan: I know, I need to go to more games this season.

11:03
Paul Swydan: I actually didn’t go to any last season. In my defense, my daughter had just been born.

11:04
Comment From Matt
5 full articles written about yesterday’s game. How many about today’s?

11:04
Paul Swydan: Guessing two, tops?

11:04
Jeff Sullivan: Sounds about right, this is stupid

11:04
Jeff Sullivan: Unless, miracle!

11:05
Jeff Sullivan: Otherwise, plenty else to look forward to

11:05
Comment From Jaack
There needs to be an article about how much better last night’s game was. Like inning by inning breakdown.

11:05
Jeff Sullivan: Thank you, Jaack! Genuinely! I have an idea now

11:05
Jeff Sullivan: Meanwhile I’m going to watch highlights from the last day of the 2011 regular season until the Pirates are on the board

11:05
Comment From Joe
Jeff, I love how you went with the gif-heavy article today, even after getting shit for it last night.

11:06
Jeff Sullivan: I know my place

11:06
Paul Swydan: brb, lavatory

11:06
Jeff Sullivan: Did I get shit for it? I honestly don’t even remember. That was a blur.

11:07
Comment From Da Bear
When it gets to 2 outs in the 9th, the Pirates ought to send in Gerrit Cole as a PH, just for maximum absurdity if they do come back.

11:07
Comment From hscer
If you can only do exactly one thing right in a game, and suck the rest of the time, do it how Brandon Crawford has.

11:07
Comment From Gila Monster
Is SF one on those “no star” teams? Posey could be a star. Pence and Bumgarner are great. But everyone else is meh.

11:07
Jeff Sullivan: Posey’s a star

11:08
Comment From Guest
Time to pull Madison?

11:08
Jeff Sullivan: Delayed now but, his night’s over, one hopes. Could’ve been pulled in the 8th as well, but I doubt he was taxing himself too much there

11:08
Comment From AJT
I was just about to type how Sullivan that idea sounded.

11:08
Jeff Sullivan: Credit to Jaack! Love you guys

11:09
Comment From Wicomico Pinstripes
Salaries not aside. Next ten years. Buxton or Heyward?

11:09
Paul Swydan: Heyward

11:09
Paul Swydan: Let’s let Buxton reach the majors before we go ahead and declare him a superstar.

11:09
Jeff Sullivan: Buxton

11:09
Jeff Sullivan: Not wedded to it though. Salary factor

11:10
Comment From Mike MacFarlane
In a quick summary, do the Royals have much of a chance against the Halos?

11:10
Jeff Sullivan: Something like a 40% chance. Some swing depending on Shoemaker’s health.

11:10
Jeff Sullivan: Davis vs. Trout is gonna be awesome

11:10
Paul Swydan: Yeah, the Royals have a chance for sure.

11:10
Comment From Topher Vonesh
Corey Dickerson or Victor Martinez for 2015?

11:11
Paul Swydan: You can only say Dickerson if you’re convinced he gets 600 PA, and the last time I checked, Walt Weiss is still a moron. So … Martinez.

11:11
Jeff Sullivan: I like that question and I’m saying Dickerson!

11:12
Comment From Jaack
For having so many playoff games in the past few years, the only really fun game the Giants have been involved in was this one: http://www.lookoutlanding.c…

11:12
Jeff Sullivan: Shouldn’t be long until they’re in Cardinals territory

11:12
Comment From Ballsack Teabagger
Pence is 10 WAR over the last 2 years. That’s legit star numbers.

11:12
Paul Swydan: I just feel like the Rockies are going to re-sign Cuddyer and keep playing Blackmon over Dickerson.

11:12
Jeff Sullivan: “Star” gets weird. Are we talking about WAR or rep?

11:12
Jeff Sullivan: Rockies could trade

11:12
Comment From Evergreen Bowl Subdivision
Who would you rather have going forward: Darvish or Tanaka?

11:12
Paul Swydan: The Rockies COULD do lots of stuff.

11:13
Comment From zmiko
But they won’t

11:13
Jeff Sullivan: Darvish. Similar pitchers, one less likely to have Tommy John surgery in the next half year

11:13
Comment From Guest
12:37 Comment From Alex Dodd: just use lots of gifs and maybe no one will notice the lack of analysis
12:37 Jeff Sullivan: ssshhhhhhh

11:13
Jeff Sullivan: I tried to do analysis!

11:13
Comment From Neddy Ned
Do people not think the Giants are in Cardinals-boring territory? I certainly think so.

11:13
Jeff Sullivan: I’m not sure. I think the Cardinals are hated a little more

11:13
Comment From Da Bear
Would you rather have a team of 25 Craig Kimbrels or 25 Yasiel Puigs?

11:13
Jeff Sullivan: Puigs by a mile

11:14
Paul Swydan: Cards definitely hated more. Not sure how Giants can have Pence AND be boring, but OK!

11:14
Jeff Sullivan: He hit a pitch three times!

11:14
Comment From Gila Monster
Apparently, a scout said the “realistic floor” for Buxton was Tori Hunter, which is insane.

11:14
Paul Swydan: Scouts say lots of stuff. Have you read Kiley’s articles? They’re each like 5,000 words?

11:14
Comment From Evergreen Bowl Subdivision
Would you rather smoke weed with Tim Lincecum or drink scotch with Miguel Cabrera?

11:14
Jeff Sullivan: weed

11:15
Comment From Matt
With the 8 teams (almost) now in place, World Series predictions?

11:15
Jeff Sullivan: Nationals over…Angels?

11:15
Paul Swydan: weed as well

11:15
Jeff Sullivan: More Bumgarner. ok

11:15
Paul Swydan: Sames

11:15
Comment From Albert
The realistic floor for Buxton is Buxton 2014.

11:15
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
The third option is smoke PCP with Hunter Pence

11:15
Jeff Sullivan: I’m a believer in there being a difference between high-leverage pitches and low-leverage pitches but what’s the point of this?

11:15
Paul Swydan: still weed

11:16
Jeff Sullivan: option 4: trip balls on your own, while watching someone follow Hunter Pence with a camera for 5 hours

11:17
Comment From Guest
If Chapman ended up as starter, would he look similar to Ventura?

11:17
Jeff Sullivan: More strikeouts

11:17
Comment From Mike MacFarlane
Who signs Lester this offseason and what’s his contract?

11:18
Paul Swydan: Cubs

11:19
Comment From Guest
If Pablo leaves the Giants this year, could we see Posey go to first, Belt to third, Susac behind the plate?

11:19
Paul Swydan: I was going to say Posey to third. Lefties at third are weird.

11:20
Comment From Guest
Could Posey play 3rd well enough?

11:20
Paul Swydan: Prob not, but worth a try I guess.

11:21
Comment From Anonymous
Posey played SS in college.

11:21
Comment From AJT
Well that was boring

11:21
Jeff Sullivan: whoa, zoned out watching old highlights and now this is over

11:22
Paul Swydan: You said it, AJT. But it was a little less boring with you guys and gals to keep us company. Thanks for hanging out with us!

11:22
Jeff Sullivan: I don’t think it’s time to move Posey when he’s still a good catcher

11:22
Jeff Sullivan: I always like the post-loss home fan chant but that one didnt’ last very long

11:22
Comment From Da Bear
Are the fans still chanting “LET’s GO BUCS”? Little late for that.

11:22
Jeff Sullivan: Disagree!

11:23
Comment From Kalso
Panda to 1st for the Mariners?

11:23
Jeff Sullivan: Morrison at 1B, Butler at DH

11:23
Paul Swydan: Also, Panda has no reason to sign as a first baseman.

11:23
Comment From Topher Vonesh
Which projects as the more lopsided series KC vs LAA or Wsh vs SF?

11:24
Jeff Sullivan: Probably…the…latter

11:24
Jeff Sullivan: Not quite sure, though. KC and LAA both have relatively weak rotations but full bullpens

11:24
Comment From semperty
Posey is basically a league average defender behind the plate. While there’s still (a lot of) value in that, I don’t think we can call him “good”

11:24
Jeff Sullivan: Good receiver

11:24
Paul Swydan: I think KC-LAA. Giants always hang in there.

11:24
Paul Swydan: Posey was top 10 in catcher framing according to Statcorner.

11:24
Jeff Sullivan: BP agrees

11:25
Comment From Matt
The great thing about the Pirates is that the future is still bright. Cutch.Marte.Polanco.Cole.Tallion…etc are going to be there a while

11:25
Jeff Sullivan: Yeah, the Pirates are a thing, and they will be for years. So this is sad but it’s just a part of the cycle

11:25
Comment From Guest
Thanks for doing the live blog guys, both have been really great!

11:25
Jeff Sullivan: Thanks everybody! More chats tomorrow! Although I’m not back in one until next week sometime

11:25
Jeff Sullivan: And thanks Paul!

11:25
Paul Swydan: We’ll have them the next two days as well. Tell your friends!

11:25
Paul Swydan: No, Jeff, thank you, sir.

11:25
Jeff Sullivan: Time to wrap this thing up. Be well, everybody





Paul Swydan used to be the managing editor of The Hardball Times, a writer and editor for FanGraphs and a writer for Boston.com and The Boston Globe. Now, he owns The Silver Unicorn Bookstore, an independent bookstore in Acton, Mass. Follow him on Twitter @Swydan. Follow the store @SilUnicornActon.

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Shiver Me Timbers
9 years ago

I’m JACKED