Orioles Winter Fan Event About as Grim as It Sounds

Jonathan Villar had a good year in 2019. He was second on the Orioles in WAR with 4.0, was really the team’s only effective base-stealer with 40 stolen bases, and hit 24 home runs and 33 doubles. In late November, Baltimore placed 28-year-old middle infielder on outright waivers right before the arbitration deadline. Everyone knew why.

The Orioles, who are still at the part of the rebuild in which good players are worth more to them on other teams, didn’t want to pay the 28-year-old middle infielder the money he would have been owed after the arbitration, which was projected to be over $10 million. They eventually managed to trade him to the Marlins in exchange for a minor league pitcher not listed among Miami’s top prospects.

Instantly becoming the best player on the 105-loss Marlins is quite the penance for a man who played 162 games for the 108-loss Orioles in 2019. Villar, who enters his final arbitration-eligible season in 2020, will have to once more make the best of a non-contending situation. Meanwhile, as their former best player lands in Miami, the Orioles and their remaining fans will stay behind in Baltimore, where the rain continues to fall.

There would be no Orioles FanFest this year at the Baltimore Convention Center, a decision made for approximately 108 reasons. The team likely projected a dip in off-season fan enthusiasm, and determined that the 1,225,000 square feet of the venue would be about a million more than they would need for a winter fan event. So, they set about “looking into other ways of connecting with fans,” and that was how the first ever Orioles Winter Warm-up at Camden Yards came to be, featuring food trucks, vendors, and live music, framed around the centerpiece of a fan Q&A with some of the team’s leadership.

Walking into the stadium, it was clear that warmer days were a long way off. Picnic tables were stacked on top of each other, ensconced by piles of wet leaves. The sky was a thick grey and unloaded a consistent drizzle on the sparse migration of attendees toward the Eutaw Street entrance. A little girl with a Frozen umbrella started crying.

“Hey, let’s hear it for the Orioles for hosting this event today,” said the live band’s singer in between holiday tunes. “Gimme an ‘O!’” he shouted.

The barely audible response from a crowd spread thin up and down Eutaw Street made you wonder if he would actually bother to spell out the full word. But he committed, and the cheer got a little louder with each letter.

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“Gimme an ‘E!’” he shouted. “What’s that spell?!”

“Ori… ole,” came the response.

“Oh, right,” he said. “I forgot the ‘S.’”

By the time the Orioles brass was taking their seats under the tent, it was raining sideways, rendering the shelter’s intended effects useless. Manager Brandon Hyde, GM Mike Elias, and assistant GM Sig Mejdal were guarded by a pair of slack-jawed nutcrackers, as well as Orioles team staffers holding the legs of the tent in place. At one point, when one of them had abandoned their post, the wind knocked one of the legs off the stage, causing stored-up rainwater to spill off the top and onto Hyde as he was signing an autograph.

“Shit,” he whispered.

One fan brought up the Nationals winning the World Series, and how it felt like a “slap in the face” for the Orioles’ regional “little brother” to win a title before the Orioles did (The Orioles do have three championships, the most recent being in 1983).

“Stupid question,” another fan muttered in response.

But, as Elias addressed in his answer, there’s no denying that the Orioles’ cratering is being comically contrasted by the success that surrounds them. Their closest geographic rival just reached the top of the sport. Across the street, the Lamar Jackson-led Ravens have become the most watchable team in the NFL. And here were the Orioles’ manager, GM, and assistant GM, fielding questions from about 100 or so fans in the rain who just wanted to hear something that would make them want to return to Camden Yards come spring.

It was a mostly productive session as fans lobbed congenial inquiries at them, and Hyde, Elias, and Mejdal politely responded. If there were any cantankerous malcontents who’d come ready to make a scene, they didn’t make themselves known. Sure, the Orioles brass had shown up to answer questions in inclement weather on a Saturday morning, but that was a small time commitment to make for a team asking fans to buy season ticket packages while also prominently featuring Mark Trumbo jerseys in the gift shop.

Nobody would have blamed the fans for being more exasperated, but most seemed like they just wanted to know who the GM liked in the minors, how the front office went about their jobs, who some of the leaders on the team were, how analytics factored into decision-making, and whether or not they’d considered selling the naming rights to Camden Yards in order to scare up some cash (This was predictably met by fervent head-shaking in the crowd and some light groaning).

One fan asked about any plans to honor the 50th anniversary of the 1970 World Series champion Orioles team; a team that won as many games as the 2019 Orioles lost. They were coming off a “nightmarish” defeat by the Mets in the 1969 World Series, and the following winter, despite their success, the team was under scrutiny by its fans.

“We’re trying diligently to make deals,” executive vice president Frank Cashen said from the Winter Meetings.

“But diligence is not enough in this case,” responded Bill Tanton, the sports editor of The Baltimore Sun. 

Truthfully, Tanton wrote, the 1970 Orioles didn’t need much to improve and would in fact return as an AL powerhouse with the roster they had, but fans were anxious for something that would make it feel like the team’s preparations would achieve a different result. It’s the same story every season, whether a new pennant is flying over the stadium, or a roaring fireplace is displayed on the jumbotron to bring the illusion of comfort on a dreary day. These offseason fan events, which most every team has, give people a chance to feel like they are heard, and to be reminded that yes, baseball is still here, it’s just sleeping.

But for the Orioles, who had trouble attracting fans during the actual season (they finished 28th out of 30 major league teams in total and average attendance), this event was downgraded from the convention center space for a reason: The Orioles’ tank is in full-plummet. It’s the best way Elias and his front office see to get their team back into contention, and they’re not the first team to do it – though it’s been argued that it’s also not the only way.

And for fans, having to slog through at least a few years and a couple of long winters knowing that the team is doing everything it can to remain uncompetitive is a sad, draining era. The Orioles have put their trust in analytics and are not yet at the point of their rebuild in which talent at the major league level is the priority. It’s a modern baseball story we know well; of how one day we’ll all be as good as the Astros, because we hired one of their assistant GMs. And the Orioles may be a few years away from exactly the sort of success they’re picturing. But you need more than “eventually, this could work” to get people to come out in the rain.

Fandom requires nothing, but asks for a lot. We all know how much it is for a family of four to attend a major league game in 2020; we all worry the sport is in the middle of trying to destroy itself. Orioles fans are preparing themselves for a generation of basement dwelling and finger-wagging from the tanking-averse Buster Olney. It’s tough to be a fan, especially when success is so visible from other nearby sources. You may reach the realization that: I don’t have to do this.

As the event concluded, the lingering few gathered their dancing children and disposed of their garbage from Boog’s BBQ. The music blared through the speakers, reverberating off of the brick walls of the warehouse, creating a nauseating echo effect. “Do they know it’s Christmastime at all?” it asked once, and then again.

Huddled in the atrium near the exit, awaiting her ride and escaping the rain, a fan named Jamie explained why she had flown into Baltimore for the event: she comes from a family of Orioles fans who were dead set on being here today.

“I flew in from Florida to come into this lovely, cold weather,” she says. “Everyone’s like, ‘Really?’ I’m like, ‘Yes, I did.'”

Jamie says, with a weary smile, that “2020 is gonna be a great year.” She thinks getting the right behind-the-scenes team members is crucial to moving forward. She didn’t get to ask a question of the triumvirate of assembled team leadership, but if she had, it would have been the same question on everyone’s mind when the forecast doesn’t look good.

“I would have asked, how were they planning on keeping it going,” she says. “Keeping it alive.”





Justin has contributed to FanGraphs and is a contributor to Baseball Prospectus. He is known in his family for jamming free hot dogs in his pockets during an off-season tour of Veterans Stadium and eating them on the car ride home.

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 years ago

This is amazing, and I’m just going to go put Comfortably Numb on loop now.

CC AFCMember since 2016
6 years ago

Umm, didn’t Villar lead Orioles in fWAR? The only thing I can find is that Means finished slightly above Villar by bWAR, so that must be the reference

Detroit Michael
6 years ago

Thanks for the entertaining article.

One (very) minor quibble: Isn’t a “slack-jawed nutcracker” an oxymoron? If the jaw isn’t firm, then how will it crack nuts?

bmt24Member since 2023
6 years ago

It will grind them under its boot heel, just like the rest of the league did to the Orioles.

Psychic... Powerless...
6 years ago

Slack-jawed means the mouth is open and, in this case, ready to accept an uncracked nut.

jdbolickMember since 2016
6 years ago

As another out of state Orioles fan, I do not share Jamie’s optimism at all. I endured the fourteen straight losing seasons and I fear that a similar streak is just beginning. The fact that Baltimore chose to pocket Villar’s money instead of paying part of his salary to secure a better prospect is deeply worrying, while Dan Connolly made a good point that when the Orioles were dealing Bundy to the Angels they could have been the ones to get a prospect in exchange for taking Zack Cozart’s salary as the Giants ultimately did. I’m more pessimistic than most regarding the future of Baltimore’s top prospects aside from Rutschman and Rodriguez, while every single divisional rival has substantially more resources and/or young talent, so the light at the end of this tunnel sure sounds like a train to me.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
6 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

Absolutely great point re: Cozart. They don’t have to play him and make a youngster lose that spot (um…Rio Ruiz I guess). They should’ve been all over that, and I hadn’t considered that until now.

Dominikk85Member since 2020
6 years ago

Of course villar overperformed but even at his 2 war projection he does have value. I don’t quite understand why they didn’t keep him, eat 5m of his salary and trade him for a better prospect.

Since the Os FO guys are from the Astros (i.e pretty smart) I assume this is probably more on angelos not wanting to eat that money. Angelos had good payrolls considering the market size but maybe he went a little over in the 13-16 period and now wants to save some of the money back.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  Dominikk85

I think some of this was that because he was arb-eligible, he didn’t exactly have a salary to pay down. That creates some logistical hurdles, but when the worst thing that can happen is that you have to year and risk adding $11M to your $65M payroll and playing him at 2B while waiting to move him, that seems like it’s a good bet to make. Are they going to be using that $11M to get talent some other way? It’s hard to see how.

keefer
6 years ago

I was 11 years old in 1969. It was the first summer I really followed the Orioles. It was the summer I became a die-hard Orioles fan. It was a blessing and a curse to be initiated into the love affair of baseball fandom at that time and place. The first three years of my fandom, the team averaged (!) 106 wins. So, of course, it followed that the Orioles would always be great.

Fifty years later, the countless disappointments have barely dimmed my infatuation. I guess you can call it true love.

I still expect them to be great. Not in 2020, but soon.

Times change. We learn new stuff about how to play baseball better, how to get the most out of players, how to pick talent a little bit better than everyone else. Elias and company will work their analytic magic, and soon… right?

At least we’ve stopped hearing tropes about bringing back “the Oriole way.”

JLanDC
6 years ago

This excellent piece makes me furious. Not because I’m an Orioles fan but because I’m a former Orioles fan who’s now a Nationals fan. Furious because it didn’t have to be like this. When the Nats arrived in 2005, Orioles ownership could have embraced them. The O’s and Nats could have used their MASN connection as the start of a long and fruitful relationship that benefitted both teams and cities. Cheer for both teams except when they’re playing each other! Attend games in your city but come over to attend games in the other city when your team is traveling. The cross-marketing possibilities are endless. Mini-plans for both teams. Weekend hotel packages. Joint winter fan events. One massive baseball fanbase across two cities.

It should have been like that. But it wasn’t, and it isn’t, and there’s only one man to blame for it: Orioles majority owner and managing partner Peter Angelos.

Rather then embrace the Nationals, Angelos treated them as squatters he was forced to accept. He denigrated Washington, DC baseball fans. He forced the teams into a joint regional sports network that he would own then refused to pay them their fair share. When the Nats complained, he sued them. When MLB complained about that, he sued them as well. Think about that for a minute. Peter Angelos sued his own business partners. Multiple times.

The Orioles used to be a proud franchise but now it’s fallen on hard times. And they have their owner to thank. They may one day return to being a major league franchise but not under current ownership. Never under current ownership. And maybe the next ownership will embrace both the Nationals franchise and Nats fans, and welcome both properly.

That’d be a great Christmas present.

BenjaminMember since 2019
6 years ago
Reply to  JLanDC

I mean, yes the MASN stuff was petty and stupid. But your other point seems like pure delusion. I don’t think any two-team cities have such fan harmony anywhere. The Cubs and White Sox fans sure don’t like each other.

JLanDC
6 years ago
Reply to  Benjamin

They’re not “two-team cities”. The Orioles and Nationals are in different cities and have separate markets. Further, there was no history between the to franchises and no baked-in fanbase rivalries. It could’ve worked. I don’t know a single DC baseball fan who wouldn’t have wanted it to work. I know that if I was in the smaller of the two markets, I’d have tried to make it work rather than pushing fans away.

KvnMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  JLanDC

I cannot think of a single example of what you are describing in professional sports. Your whole conceit revolves around the teams being close enough to have synergies, but you say they are also not occupying the same market. You are either being disingenuous or incredibly naive if you think this is a possibility.

jdbolickMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  JLanDC

When the Nats arrived in 2005, Orioles ownership could have embraced them.

That’s ludicrously unrealistic. The truth is that the existence of the Nationals significantly damaged both the value and the support for the Orioles franchise irrespective of Baltimore’s performance. As proof of that, note that during the five year stretch (2012-2016) where the Orioles made three playoff appearances the team averaged 2,275,564 in seasonal attendance. In the five years prior to the Expos moving to Washington, the Orioles averaged 2,854,570 per season despite having no winning seasons and averaging 91 losses. Angelos has many faults and I’m obviously not happy with the organization being particularly cheap lately, but anyone in his situation would have adamantly opposed a team being moved to D.C.

JLanDC
6 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

You make my point for me! The Orioles were always lazy and took DC baseball fans for granted. Did they ever play anything except one exhibition game in DC? Did they ever show any love for DC baseball fans? No and no. Peter Angelos bought the team after the Senators had left for Texas and he never had to work to get fans from the DC market. All I’m saying is that his attendance would have benefitted if he’d tried just a little bit. Instead, he just wanted the MASN money which, by the way, goes directly into his pocket and is not subject to profit sharing. What does that tell you?

jdbolickMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  JLanDC

You make my point for me!

No, I proved that what you said was completely ridiculous, and frankly it should have been downvoted into oblivion.

The Orioles were always lazy and took DC baseball fans for granted.

Not at all true. The Orioles estimated that ~25% of their attendance came from the D.C. area and they made efforts to sustain that interest through advertising in the area as well as lobbying for transportation improvements.

Did they ever play anything except one exhibition game in DC?

The Orioles played at least five exhibitions at RFK, but I’m not sure what the total number was.

All I’m saying is that his attendance would have benefitted if he’d tried just a little bit.

Prior to 2005, the Orioles received quite a bit of attendance from the D.C. area. MLB strong-arming the Nationals into existence largely ended that and did considerable damage to the Orioles as a result.

he just wanted the MASN money which, by the way, goes directly into his pocket and is not subject to profit sharing. What does that tell you?

What it should tell you is that MLB owners knew they were screwing over Angelos by forcing him to accept the relocation. They knew he would not only take the league to court but that he would have had a strong case, so they bribed him with MASN money. I agree that the organization has not handled the issue gracefully since then, and as a result has rightfully turned public opinion against them, but the reality is that the Orioles absolutely did deserve compensation for MLB forcing the Expos to D.C.

JLanDC
6 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

It’s a shame that you let your team biases blind you to the economic realities, so let’s get to the root of the issue here, shall we? Washington DC is the 7th largest television market while Baltimore is 26th. Of the top ten counties with the highest per capita income, five are in the DC market. DC itself is no. 23. By contrast, Baltimore County is no. 135 and Baltimore City is no. 1103. In which market would YOU rather own a team?

Forcing DC baseball fans to live with a team in its smaller, poorer neighbor was never going to survive much longer. If the Nats had not arrived, some other team would’ve made the move and that team might well have been the Orioles. I’d wager that Angelos would have already started discussions about building a new ballpark in DC by now had the Nationals not beat him to it.

dave
6 years ago
Reply to  JLanDC

The Orioles signed a 30-year lease with the Maryland Stadium Authority after Oriole Park was built, effective on April 1, 1992. Therefore, any discussions Angelos’ theoretically had about relocating the team would’ve been only a fantasy. If anything, the possibility of them relocating would be now with the contract expiring after ’21, but with an 89 year old Angelos no longer in the show and his sons now calling the shots they’re not going anywhere.

JLanDC
6 years ago
Reply to  dave

The Orioles’ options are limited here. They still pull fans from DC but not near as many, and he’s soon to be on the hook to the Nats for almost $100M is overdue rights fees from the previous 5-yr period and another $100M for the current 5-yr period. That’s serious scratch even with his deep pockets. How does this ownership group rebuild the team when saddled with this additional financial burden and a DC fan base that they’ve willingly alienated?

dave
6 years ago
Reply to  JLanDC

I don’t know if the Orioles “willingly alienated” the DC fan base, but the Nationals are an easier draw based on location. Baltimore City has such a bad reputation right now that even people in the suburbs avoid going there. I don’t even feel safe going into Baltimore anymore and I’ve lived in the area all my life. Tourism is down and business is hurting to the point were it might just make more sense for the Orioles to relocate into the county.

James
6 years ago
Reply to  JLanDC

“The Orioles can only succeed if they embrace the Nationals! We’re really the only hope for the Orioles’ franchise!” – an O’s-turned-Nats fan.

This is why Orioles fans hate you guys.

James
6 years ago
Reply to  James

It’s the same message that’s even being pushed BY the Nationals! Their whole “one pursuit” motto, and trying to claim Maryland – which already had a team with a passionate fan base! – as their own is as much “treating the other franchise like squatters”, in my opinion.

And while I’m sure you have good intentions and don’t really harbor any resentment towards Orioles fans, the relationship doesn’t always go both ways. 75% of the Nats fans I know were conveniently fans of completely different teams until about the 2012 season. That they would, at times, come off as condescending to a proud fan base that’s gone through a LOT of rough times throughout the years is a real slap in the face.

JLanDC
6 years ago
Reply to  James

Look, I can’t help if you feel condescended to. That’s certainly not my intent. Nor can I speak to your friends and their team loyalties, but the issue isn’t one of fandom, it’s one of economics. With its economic resurgence and population growth in the 80’s and 90’s, DC was going to get a team one way or another. The question isn’t if the larger market should have its own team but how to keep the team in the adjacent smaller market viable. Angelos rejected that opportunity and now his franchise is beginning to teeter.

JLanDC
6 years ago
Reply to  James

And this is why kids in Baltimore will one day be wearing Indianapolis Orioles jerseys. Let’s get over our petty animosities and do what we can to make sure that both teams thrive.

kevinthecomic
6 years ago

” (they finished 28th out of 30 major league teams in total and average attendance)” — Wouldn’t total and average attendance always receive the same ranking as everyone is using the same denominator (i.e. 81)?

jdbolickMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  kevinthecomic

Not everyone plays 81 home games due to rainouts or the occasional end of the season tie-breaker. For instance, the White Sox only had 80 home games this season.

Mario MendozaMember since 2017
6 years ago

I guess you drew the short straw to have to cover this event. But I’m glad you did… excellent writing!

KvnMember since 2020
6 years ago

Obviously being this bad is no fun and most fans aren’t going to be entertained by watching a team be rebuilt from the ground up, but I remember the futility of the 14 straight losing seasons where there was no reason to watch the team and no sense that they had a plan to get better. I would take the 2019 season where at least there appears to be a plan over any of the 68-75 win teams of the 00’s.

mmiale
6 years ago

I put it at a 50% probability that the Orioles are sold to new ownership within the next two to three years and a 25% probability that they also get relocated to another city.

RoyalsFan#14321
6 years ago
Reply to  mmiale

I’ll take your 2-1 pay out on ownership change. And the 4-1 payout on the move.

mike sixelMember since 2016
6 years ago

I really enjoyed this read. Thank you.

Mike NMN
6 years ago

Boy, is this sad. Yankee fan who went to college in Baltimore when the O’s were very good (and the stadium very bad) but I wouldn’t wish this on anyone, This is worse than the Stump Merrill Era. We knew that the Yankees were terrible, but they weren’t trying to be terrible.

Joey CaltrainMember since 2019
6 years ago

I love the concept of this article so much

AlbyMember since 2017
6 years ago

As an O’s fan, thank you for putting yourself through this for the rest of us. There’s some things you couldn’t get me to do even for money.

dave
6 years ago

I didn’t go, but I heard that it was “nice” from those who did. Plus you would’ve gotten a free blanket for showing up! I don’t know if I’ll be attending any Oriole games in ’20, but I will be attending a some of their minor league games. I’ll always be an O’s fan and I’m excited for their future.

willl
6 years ago
Reply to  dave

Hope you get to a few games before MLB contracts the Keys!