Predicting the Trade Deadline Moves
The trade deadline is a week from Monday, and between now and then, we’re probably going to see a lot of moves. Not a lot of big moves, necessarily, but with a lot of buyers in the market for bullpen upgrades, we’re probably looking at a large number of depth acquisitions. Just for the fun of it, let’s wildly speculate on where the biggest name guys might go before August 1st. Keep in mind that no one really knows what is going to happen, so this is more of an exercise in frivolity than a serious attempt at forecasting the deadline moves. Let’s see how many wild guesses I can get right.
The Indians have put themselves in a strong position to make the playoffs, and with the fickleness of starting pitching — see Mets, New York — they will try to take advantage of this opportunity. Generally reluctant to trade their best young prospects, I think they’ll back off that stance this year, and move either Clint Frazier or Bradley Zimmer, plus some lower level pieces, to make the big league team as strong as possible.
Predicted Additions
Jonathan Lucroy, Will Smith, Daniel Hudson, Coco Crisp
Texas Rangers
The Rangers pitching staff has fallen apart lately, and with the team slumping heavily in July, I’d expect Jon Daniels to be among the most aggressive buyers before the deadline. There are plenty of places for Texas to upgrade, and I’m guessing they’ll go for quantity over one big splashy move, which will allow them to keep both Joey Gallo and Jurickson Profar around for the future.
Predicted Additions
Matt Moore, Andrew Cashner, Carlos Beltran, Jeremy Jeffress
Los Angeles Dodgers
Crushed by injuries, the Dodgers probably don’t have a choice but to be aggressive buyers this year, as the team is good enough to contend but needs some help for the stretch run. Luckily for them, the A’s have one of everything they could use, so I’ve got Farhan Zaidi hooking up with his old bosses in the bay area for one big trade that brings the Dodgers some reinforcements across the board.
Predicted Additions
Rich Hill, Josh Reddick, Sean Doolittle
San Francisco Giants
The Giants have made it clear they want to land a serious bullpen upgrade, and they should be in the market for an outfielder too, as they try to hold off the Dodgers in the NL West. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were among the most aggressive suitors for the Yankees relievers, either, but I don’t have them winning those bidding wars.
Predicted Additions
Jay Bruce, David Robertson
Washington Nationals
It’s time for the Nationals annual attempt to upgrade their bullpen, and for the second year in a row, I think they’re going to unseat their current closer in order to land a better arm. Jonathan Papelbon might not like getting moved out of the ninth inning, but I don’t think they want to trust him with save situations in October, and so I expect they’ll be aggressive suitors for all the biggest name relievers out there.
Predicted Additions
Aroldis Chapman, Steve Pearce
Everyone knows they want Andrew Miller, but I don’t expect them to back off their refusal to move Kyle Schwarber, so I’m guessing Miller stays in New York. That will leave the Cubs hunting for other bullpen options, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they focused on another young guy with club control, plus potentially looked for another outfielder for depth.
Predicted Additions
Alex Colome, Desmond Jennings
Miami Marlins
The obvious need is in the rotation, but without much in the way of prospects to trade, it’s not clear to see how they’re going to land a big fish, so I’m giving them a run-of-the-mill back-end innings eater instead, along with some bullpen depth.
Predicted Additions
Jeremy Hellickson, Xavier Cedeno
New York Mets
The Mets are like every other contender, shopping for bullpen help, but I have a hard time seeing them in on the big names; I think Sandy Alderson will value hunt for underrated guys who can help in the middle innings instead.
Predicted Additions
Joe Smith, Zach Duke, Jon Niese
Boston Red Sox
Dave Dombrowski already made his biggest acquisition by adding Drew Pomeranz, so now I think he’ll focus on depth, adding an innings sponge to round out the rotation and another bullpen arm to supplement the relief corps.
Predicted Additions
Ervin Santana, David Hernandez
Toronto Blue Jays
With Aaron Sanchez’s innings limit hanging over the team like a cloud, I think they’ll need to decide shortly whether they’re going to stick with their original plan to move him to the bullpen. It’s tough for me to see how they do that now, so I think they’ll upgrade the bullpen through trade instead.
Predicted Additions
Tyler Clippard, Steve Cishek
Baltimore Orioles
Like the Marlins, they’ll be looking for starting pitching without much to trade, so they’ll have to try and buy low on someone and hope he ends up producing better in the second half than he did the first half.
Predicted Additions
Jorge de la Rosa, Ricky Nolasco
The Astros don’t have that many weak spots, or at least, not that many places where the guys available right would be clear substantial upgrades over what the team has internally. With Yuliesky Gurriel and Alex Bregman on the way, I wouldn’t be surprised if they mostly stood pat, or made some kind of depth move at most.
St. Louis Cardinals/Pittsburgh Pirates
I’m putting these two NL Central teams together because I don’t really know what either one is up to. Both seem like they’ll probably look to add, but they’re far enough out of the division race that going all in doesn’t make sense, and even a Wild Card pursuit looks a little challenging, so maybe they’ll just add low-key relievers and call it a day.
Detroit Tigers/Kansas City Royals
The AL version of the Cardinals and Pirates, neither one should be aggressive buyers, but they don’t look like they’ve struggled enough to convince ownership to sell either, so these two teams look mostly like holders to me; stick with what they have and hope it works.
With news coming out yesterday that the White Sox might be open to selling, you can imagine they’re getting a lot of calls today, but if they’re really not going to move Chris Sale or Jose Quintana, this seems like they’re putting off the rebuild again. I have them moving David Robertson, but most of the rest of the guys they’d think about moving could go in August or over the winter.
New York Yankees
Yeah, I have them trading Chapman and Beltran, but beyond that, I think they mostly stand pat; the team is hanging around the race enough to not push for a full tear down, so Andrew Miller stays, and the team looks to load up for another run in 2017 instead of burning it to the ground.
Milwaukee Brewers
Lucroy, Smith, and Jeffress are all on the move here, so it’s not like I don’t have them doing anything, but I think Ryan Braun stays in Milwaukee through the deadline; he’s an easy August trade guy, so there’s no real time pressure for them to get something done now. Let everyone sort out their needs by July 31st, then figure out who still wants Braun next month.
Cincinnati Reds
Zack Cozart would be a decent chip if anyone needed a shortstop, but no one really does. The team doesn’t really have the pieces that contenders are looking for, besides Jay Bruce, so this is probably a quiet deadline in Cincinnati, even though the rebuild is still going on.
Tampa Bay Rays
There’s an argument for trading Evan Longoria, and maybe they’ll find a fit for Jake Odorizzi, but neither of those guys have to moved right now, and I don’t really see great landing spots for either. Both may have better markets this winter, even though there’s an SP shortage at the moment.
Colorado Rockies
Another summer with Carlos Gonzalez still in Colorado, at least if I’m guessing. I don’t know what the Rockies are doing. I’ve stopped trying to figure it out.
So those are my guesses. No big surprise blockbusters, but a bunch of teams making depth moves, and every contender out there adding relief help, basically. We’ll see how the next 10 days go, and hopefully, someone will pull off a big deal I didn’t see coming.
Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
Norris will go somewhere, Upton too.
I’m surprised the little talk there has been on Solarte/Buchter/Hand, Solarte in particular
Underwater contract guys are often August trades, since there’s no need to complete those deals by July 31st, so teams prioritize their time on guys who have to be moved before waivers kick in. Agree that Upton goes; not sure he goes before August 1st.
Technically no need but padres want to give Dickerson (and possibly call up Renfroe) all the PA’s they need, not like no one want him on July 30th (with obviously padres eating some money)
Norris isn’t an underwater contract guy is he? He’s not eligible for free agency until 2019 and is only making $2.9m this year. After this crappy offensive season I can’t imagine he’d get that huge a raise in 2017.
Wait, what Norris and what Upton?
i assume its the ones from San Diego: Derek and Melvin
Chuck and Kate
What happens when Mike Trout meets Chuck Norris?
A wormhole forms in the space-time continuum right between them, sucking them both in.
Adrian Beltre emerges from the wormhole’s other side.
I think the giants should be interested in hand. They need someone to get lefties and he looks great for that. He throws like bumgarner.
Norris and Upton for Norris and Upton…who hangs up first?
If the Pirates decide to sell off a bit, Neftali Feliz could be interesting.
Seems more valuable than David Hernandez.
At this point, Pirates are not selling, with the possible exception of John Jaso.
and Jon Niese and Jeff Locke
For what it’s worth, I think Kurt Suzuki will be moved too.
I am sure they would love to but why would anyone being buying on him. He has very little value even as a backup.
Niese would be a great lefty for our bullpen. I would love to get him back.
It would be one of those quick trades, where they trade him away for a PTBNL, then get him back a week or two later, to kill his 5 & 10 trade veto rights.
He is nowhere close to 5 and 10
Indians’ team philosophy seems to prevent them from being in the mix for a guy like Lucroy, but I sure hope you’re right.
The Indians have a prospect fettish. I hope they didn’t spread the condition to Toronto with Shapiro et al. Some prospects turn into stars, like Lindor, and you should hold onto those guys, but a lot of prospects are likely destined just to be players, like Marisnick & Nicolino in the Jays-Mariners trade. These guys you can part with.
Right, so you look at a bunch of teenagers, figure out which ones will turn into stars, and trade the others. Genius! Why don’t all the general managers do this?
It’s not a fetish.
They just have a special talent for developing fourth outfielders and middle relievers. 🙂
It’s partially about volume – if you give up enough prospects the risk increases that you’re going to trade away someone great. The Jays traded away Nicolino, Marisnick, DeSclafani, Norris, Graveman, Nolin, Barreto, Hoffman, Castro, Boyd, Yan Gomes, Alvarez, Hechavarria, Becerra, d’Arnaud and Syndergaard since the end of the 2012 season. Many of these guys were highly ranked and well regarded, and when you trade away that many young guys the chances are a lot higher that one of them will turn into something special. Which happened with Syndergaard already and could still happen with a few others.
Agreed. They’re not moving Zimmer, he’s too close to being ready for the big club.
Besides, they have lots of B+ prospects but no other surefire premium prospects. I can’t see them landing anybody coveted by the likes of Texas or the Cubs. They’ll get outbid.
Now, their biggest need is a reliable set-up man, preferably a lefty.
Next, the Indians have a floating hole between 3B and the OF, depending on whether Brantley can suit up this year. Best fit would be a RH Swingman with some pop: Pearce.
He can be a regular at LF or platoon at RF + share 3B with Ramirez, giving Ramirez a chance to spell Lindor once a week.
Beyond that, they can really use a LOOGY.
Lucroy would be nice but unless Milwaukee has a hankering for Perez or Mejia they’ll be outbid for his services. Offense at catcher won’t be an issue once Perez is up to speed as long as they address the 3B/lf hole they’re plugging by shuttling Ramirez back and forth.
De la Rosa and Nolasco would both be upgrades to the back of the Orioles rotation. Just typing that makes me amazed that they’ve been leading the AL East most of the year.
I just don’t know how the Red Sox can go into the postseason feeling confident in Price, Pomeranz and Wright as a Top-3.
because they score what seems like 8 runs a game….
How many times does that have to fail in the playoffs for people to notice. They wont score 8 against everyones 1 and 2 so then what?
What arms are potentially available that would be a clear and significant upgrade over those guys (plus Porcello is in the mix)? I’m seeing basically Sale and Fernandez, and I think you’re talking a king’s ransom for either (plus the Marlins are are still in contention). Archer and Gray are probably better than all but Price, but that’s not a lock, and the Rays and A’s would be looking for major pieces in return. I think an Ervin Santana type, as Dave suggests, is the best option. You may be right that it’s not a playoff-caliber rotation (I’d disagree) but now that the Sox have gotten Pomeranz there’s not a ton of room to upgrade the top 4.
Having Rick Porcello around means they don’t have to.
I’m not even a Red Sox fan but I’d take that over any other AL contender’s top 3 aside from Cleveland.
Interesting. The Jays have Estrada & Sanchez, who, maybe you missed this, were in the All Star game, and follow that up with Dickey, Happ, and Stroman. The David Price who tipped his pitches in the playoffs and has stunk up Fenway is not really a fearsome ace, & we just saw what Pomeranz brings.
I like the Orioles rotation better than the Red Sox, and those Oriole pitchers apart from TIllman.wouldn’t even start for many teams
I admit I forgot about the Jays because I always underrate Estrada. I love Sanchez as well, so yeah I could see them being right there with them but I still wouldn’t say they are head and shoulders better than the Red Sox front 3 unless Pomeranz 1 start is a sign of things to come.
There are a lot more starts in Pomeranz’s career that look like his 1st for Boston than the good handful he had in SD and PETCO playing for a team going nowhere. Counting on him seems like fools gold.
Well the Blue Jays rotation has the 6th best ERA in baseball, while the Red Sox rotation ranks 21st – over a full run worse than Toronto. By ERA the Blue Jays have a much better top 3, but by fWAR the Red Sox are right there since FIP likes Porcello, Wright and Price better than Happ and Estrada. Sanchez has been the best pitcher in the division.
I think you were probably not going to get all those downvotes until you started talking about the Orioles. There is literally no team in playoff contention whose rotation I wouldn’t take over Baltimore’s.
What’s the over/under on correct guesses? I’d set it at 5. (There are 28 guesses by my count).
1.5
1 but I am iffy on that much. Every year we find out it is all just guessing and no one is close
I don’t think the Rockies will totally stand still. If they can get Nolan Reimold from the Orioles for De La Rosa, I bet they flip him to the Mets for James Loney. That would make their front office quite pleased about the future at 1B.
And that would help the front office get prepared for new career paths: burger flipping and dog grooming.
The tough thing about the Royals is that they don’t have that much to sell (except for maybe Edinson Volquez and Luke Hochevar), unless they want to get an early start on a big sell-off before the Mass Exodus after 2017 (Hos, Moose, Cain, Davis, and Duffy too I think). Either way, they need some serious starting pitching upgrades, especially with Kyle Zimmer looking as injuries are going to wipe out his career entirely.
That would be cool. I mean not really for Royals fans, because I suspect they’d like to re-sign some of those guys, but that would be the craziest trade deadline ever. They’d certainly get a bunch of prospects.
I’m not sure a team like the Dodgers who are already suffering from too many injuries are willing to take on that much injury risk. The pieces fit, but I imagine they’d prefer to improve some of those areas with healthier options.
What does Jennings do for the Cubs OF that they don’t already have between Bryant, Heyward, Almora, Fowler, Soler, Contreras, & Szczur?
Well, he does give them that all important “i” vowel that they have been lacking thus far. Szczur in particular has been dragging down their vowel average all year.
A trade deadline article that doesn’t mention Julio Teheran….what is this blasphemy?
The Braves have made their position clear. They aren’t willing to move Teheran for anything less than an opposing GM crippling his own farm system. Thus far, everyone has wisely declined. The angle has been done to death at this point and I believe that Dave and other writers prefer to discuss GMs that will actually make deals in the next two weeks.
That’s just posturing. The Braves will make a move, you watch.
Any opposing GM crippling his own farm system by trading with the Braves better be willing to move to Tehran to hide from all the pissed off fans.
What about a deal with Lucroy and Smith going to the Astros for a package like Moran, Reed, Stassi and (Martes or Musgrove)?
Yes it’s a haul of prospects (3 or the top 10 listed for the Astros), but 2 of them (Reed and Moran) are almost redundant for the Astros now with the Cuban and Bregman….either one of those guys have to be off the table unless they are adding another #1 starting pitcher which doesn’t appear to be available. The arm that Milwaukee gets would be the only potential immediate pain for Houston…but even there they still have 2 of their best 3 arms in the system.
Castro is fairly awful (his splits against RHP are good for catchers but god the K’s) Gattis worse behind the dish. Control Lucroy for this year AND next which is right in Houston’s window now to win. Texas is regressing with their pitching and hitting; Smith makes for a nice controlled improvement LH reliever over what they have.
Lucroy and Smith are still cheap too…keeps the Astros close to budget
“the Cuban?”
He owns the Mavericks. You know, the team with the German.
Gurriel. (The elder one)
I totally don’t blame Andrew for not trying to spell that, since the guy himself changed the spelling after coming to America.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
The Astros are going to start losing talent to the Rule 5 draft. They might as well get something for them now rather than lose them for nothing.
That is just stupid the vast majority of rule 5s come back anyway and you can lose guy like Valbuena and Rusmus to make room as prospects get closer. If they where is real danger they would be the best system ever.
Not sure how the Card’s chances are properly defined as challenging, particularly since Fangraphs predicts them to be a Wild Card team. That said, because they are so young, I doubt if they do anything major. Another bull pen arm, possibly a lefty may well be their only move. Getting Carpenter, Moss, Pena, Peralta, and Walden back, and bringing Reyes up, would improve the roster more than any offensive trade could do.
Wait — are they really getting Jordan Walden back? (They barely had him in the first place.) I assumed his arm had died and already been buried for the year.
It was reported yesterday, that he is throwing without issues. Whether, he is MLB ready, is of course questionable. But when healthy, which has been rare,
He has been very effective. Even if he can contribute for 6 weeks, it would be a boon to a shaky bull pen.
I’ve been a bit curious as to why Tyler Chatwood’s name has not appeared in many trade rumors. Perhaps the Rockies have no desire to trade him or maybe I’m placing too much value on him, but with only one year of control remaining, he doesn’t seem to fit in any Rockies window of success and in a seller’s market for pitching, I would imagine he has some value as a back of the rotation arm.
His away splits this year are 1.30/2.89. His career away figures are 3.40/3.88. Even with the decent sized ERA-FIP gap, those are respectable numbers. He probably has about $450K of salary remaining this year and next year he’s in Arb3 and I can’t see him making more than $2.5M. I think if the Rockies floated him out there, they could get a nice little return on him. Something like a solid B-grade prospect.
I don’t understand why the giants would want to get robertson or consider him an upgrade over casilla or for that matter romo. It’s not only pointless but an un-giants thong to do, although sabean has been saying some strange things lately. I would much prefer a serious anti-lefty specialist like hand or cedeno or even thornburg, because that’s really been their weakness. Bruce on the other hand would be a typical giants move, although i don’t like that either.
I’m sure I’m not the only one interested in seeing the Giants in a thong.
I was thinking the same thing, but Robertson actually has reverse platoon splits. Lifetime .193 BA/.244 wOBA against LHH.
Wow, you’re right, the articles about robertson i read didn’t mention this. And it’s consistent from year to year.
Robertson is far better than Casilla and Romo that is why they would get him.
So the Cardinals and Pirates are soooo far out of it but are closer than several other teams in other divisions that you included. What gives?
Other than the Mets, which teams are you talking about?
You think they should sell the future to make a one game playoff? I know reading is hard but that is what it said. Neither are going to be 13 to 16 games better than the Cubs down the stretch to close the gap.
Neal Huntington has already been quoted as saying they are looking to add and Pirates scouts have been extensively scouting the Rays. This weekend will see Cole, Glasnow, and Taillon pitch in succession for the first time. Josh Bell will be the starting 1B by August and Liriano is finally getting his crap together. The Pirates probably won’t acquire Chris Archer but I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if Matt Moore is a Pirate by the deadline and the Bucs won’t have to give up Meadows to get give. Harold Ramirez, Chad Kuhl, Reese McGuire, and maybe a lower level pitcher should get it done. The Pirates are getting healthy, the elite prospects are contributing, and they have the easiest schedule in baseball in the second half. They will make the playoffs.
Positivity!
Why trade Kuhl for Moore, when you can just use Kuhl as your starter? Heès dominating at Triple A, and was effective when called up. Moore hasn’t been that great this year, older, injury prone, and ongoing command issues.
I think the Orioles are gonna go for an ace starting pitcher, like Tehran. They put an ace in the front, now Tillman is no #2, etc. And I can’t see the Braves staying away from a hot market place.
Man, there are some really uninspiring names available this trade deadline. The White Sox need to get over themselves and go full nuclear option on the rebuild. If they floated Chris Sale or Quintana out there in this market, they’d make a killing but I’m not sure they have the stomach to do it.
Hill and Reddick to the Dodgers is an intriguing idea with Kershaw’s season in doubt and the Dodgers seemingly having no faith in Yasiel Puig (and his hamstrings). I wouldn’t be shocked to see Reddick go to the Cubs though. He’s another Epstein guy and I’m not sure how comfortable the Cubs would be running guys like Baez, Szczur, Soler out there down the stretch and in the playoffs. Desmond Jennings makes zero sense in Chicago, the Cubs have a Desmond Jennings, he’s called Albert Almora.
Chris Sale seems to be doing everything he can to cut his trade value up into little pieces.
I kinda think that Blackmon, De La Rosa, and Logan are more likely to move for the Rockies than Gonzalez at this point. They’ve made it clear in the past they’re pretty committed to keeping CarGo around.
Re: Doolittle, when was the last time an injured player was traded for at the deadline?’
Re: Jennings, what?
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The Red Sox need to clear Buchholz off their roster and all it takes is his 4 mil in salary plus a box of rocks. He’ll do fine in the NL, maybe better than fine if you don’t take away his blankie and teddy bear. He threw 95 in his one inning of work this July, and had the best cutter I’ve seen this year. Total surprise, that.
You have a fair amount of teams adding several players but what on earth are they giving up. Some acquisitions seem unrealistic. You do realize Cardinals are tied for second wild card spot, right?
What is Boston supposed to do with an “innings sponge”? The team’s rotation is Price-Porcello-Wright-Pomeranz-Rodriguez. Unless you’re abandoning ship on Rodriguez – which would make entirely no sense given that he seemed to straighten out his injury recovery once he went back to the minors – there is no spot for him.
Boston still needs to have backup plans for Rodriguez for the rest of the season, but clearly he merits continuing in that 5th spot. Unless there is a six-man rotation on the way (or a mega trade improvement), Boston’s SPing is set.
Fun article, only thing I thought was off-base was Coco Crisp, what can he possibly offer a contender at this point?
Keep the medical staff in practice ?
The Mets should be SELLERS, not buyers.
2017 shapes up better for them, with a healthy Wheeler and hopefully Harvey.
Thor and Matz are obviously not lasting through the post season, they both should really undergo procedures sooner than later.
I would keep their starters under 190 innings, and trade Colon and Walker. Bring up Herrera and make him the 2B to start next year. Reyes at short and Flores at third.
I think the Dodgers go bigger. If they acquire a top, young reliever under control for several seasons it helps them not only now but in the future if Montas or Cotton don’t work out and if they do would allow one of those three to be be moved by the deadline next year for likely close to what they paid to acquire him assuming he stays healthy.
Rich Hill is probably the best choice for the Dodgers, but it’s possible they trade for Archer with a similar strategy in mind as the one above. He’d get a boost from pitching in the NL which should improve his trade value.
Reddick/Beltran/Pearce all make sense to help their outfield.
With as many problems as the team has, I can see them trying to improve the offense further which would require them to do something with Agon (phantom DL) since 1B is the only other position at which it can be improved. Pearce fits perfectly in this scenario because he’s under control only for the remainder of 2016 which would allow Agon to start again in 2017. This combined with all of the moves able will require them to spend a lot of resources for 2016 so it’s the least likeliest move they make, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
I guess Adrian has been fine since the middle of last month so that last idea will probably not happen.
With Ketel Marte out with mono won’t the M’s be looking for short term help at short. Nunez or Cozart seem like good fits.
Brad Miller seems like a good fit!
I guess Chris Sale wants to be traded
Given his verbal screwups in the LaRoche fiasco and this recent clubhouse uniform destruction fiasco Occam’s Razor makes it far more likely that he’s just an entitled jerk.